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and clearly because of your new president, i believe it will on him. us secretary of state will be always here, said you'll to continuing his release to a. we get strange comments from trump where policy doesn't match is the comments off the cuff. and he says things that i read the end of the previous administration, just from your insight in years there. i don't know what you think of jo radcliffe, the new head of the see a year old. we used to what, how far as trump being undermined from the inside or is he being more undermined than usual or less? well, frankly, i don't feel is being undermined at all. i figure, i feel that he's appointed a group of lawyers who are paying affility to him. and what really bothers me is they're going out of their way to do things that are in just as crow. and just as unconscionable as trump himself. so they can climb up the ladder, a favortism in the cabinet. and you look at how secretary, se rubio, for example,
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who was confirmed 99, did nothing which i thought was absurd. he has switched a lot of his positions. he was a big back or a vacancy for international develop it. uh now he can't wait to take it over. and he's been a part of the great thing is it, did you as a id is being destroyed as well? it's, it's kind of like a project that is being destroyed because it trump is talking about grading guys. as the riviera, the middle east, they usually for international development would have to draw or something like that agency would have a huge role. doing really id. i mean, tell me what you know about usa id, i mean, set up by the, under the kennedy administration. because certainly all our lives as far as i understand that have been undermined by us a id, whether it be the stabilisation of democracies. it seemed to me and from what's being on, oh wow, the stay home a id be stabilizing democracies. yeah, that's right. where, where are you getting that? the mass financing of the media?
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i mean, what have you thought about the fact that it seems to be funding media certainly was across your and different types of actions to be able to uh say back. yeah, i did, you were i rarely been engaged in humanitarian, a, an infrastructure aid of not in the compromising of media around the terry in a to z. explain to me, what do you think? do you manage every day? because so as i understand is an i trouble quite a bit through africa and in the global south. usaid is just a soft way of weapon guys in us, hedge a monic bout and it's usually fun. and these to the mass killing of a 1000000 year year this, they are buying into a propaganda line that you're hearing, i guess in the global south that the russians are putting out for years. most of what a id does is humanitarian and construction. infrastructure name me, so i'm just, i'm at, i'm only one thing i as well when i was in greece, the entire road network was built by a i did for a wed. sorry,
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i couldn't hear you. the reese wouldn't have a logistics capability with that. okay, great. i think, okay, greece the, tell me what about the you as to how i don't agree, i don't know of africa. how about all of african name, a country in the health field, and then he met his name on country and i'll tell you why that was actually to do a destabilizing democracy in that country. the greek colonels, when you talk about the civic power, you're actually to hear a id had nothing to do with the degree colonels. yeah, you're focusing on the wrong agent, so you're barking up the wrong one. so you thought it was the law just of the united states that went into go into greece to oh, that's great. oh, that was that soft power. it's done for influence is done for train, although it's soft power. oh, you work specifically a for who anyway i what's the difference between what a id is doing and what john is doing with the b, r a and the other rama here to defend china. i'm attacking usa id as the whole year old has vastly you, you obviously have know, i'm a one off frequently the and they me one global south leader who is complaining
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about trump destroying usa id when they are ethically you'd expect them to be saying, no, we really need this us a id when attention. are they paying at all to what trump is joy? that's the more important thing. well, no attention is being paid. he's doing things that are incredibly malicious. who are the only thing with a i that are aware of the see i an artist of how lovely, honestly i for are you to allow me to speak or not? are we going to, are we gonna have a discussion? are you just going to interrupt me? how long would you at the c i a and was your yeah, john hopkins funded by usa id in any way. say that again, was john hopkins university in receipt of any grounds from usa id does hopkins university. i attended johns hopkins university, i teach now at johns hopkins university. they will rely on funding of a id. there is no funding for the building that hopkins gets,
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as it is for its military research components that are located off campus. and they're one of those, the largest receivers recipients. i think i hear that $300000000.00. usa id give john hopkins. says it says which says that it's in the usa id file world. we get this information. they were, is on the johns hopkins university website, have a look at it. i think this is the problem with what trump is done to so many scholars who now realize their research, the defending usaa de, cuz technically you're in the pay down the tubes for you as a i do you know when they are defending, as i'm not defending us a id and i'm trying to tell you what this factual situation is and you're spending a bunch of propaganda. that's all i'm hearing from you, regardless of the drum. and this is the, this information sites that are around the world. sorry, the from the this is from your university website. the,
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during that the university has receded usa id money. while the infrastructure in the united states is pulling up a, which is the cost where the trouble ministration today. and come to think of it what the left says in the united states as well. let's, let's move to, let's move to is made lease policy then and his hope you have or factual basis. so in the middle east policy, everything i said was true usa id is a, gives grant aid to uh, to john helped a lot of us the largest money that hopkins scaggs from the government. that is in military aid. it's for research and the medical field and such try this is the telecommunications program you had on top of inst, hospital and hopkins sense of communication programs is in receipt of usa id money . now it will be, so presumably they'll shut down. and clearly if they're propagandizing for you as a id and receiving money for it, probably not a bad idea. let's go to the middle, easy. she's got it is big, shutting down a id is a good day. it's all for me to think it's a good thing or a bad thing,
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but it is for me to ask a question as to why on the, the us tax there was funding programs to destabilize democracy. you know, it was around the federal budget is used by a id. i moved even quarrelling about the magnitude. i'm saying why is one of the best answer the question. so i figured id of, do you know what you're talking about? if $1.00 goes there, it's $1.00 too much. you've seen your homelessness problem way. you can do the 40000000 that are our food stamps, not the id. is there $14000000.00 in your country who con, eat tonight without federal food aid and you're telling me it doesn't matter if i'm paying $50000000000.00 as being given to us and power and situations are in africa . that's what you're telling me. $40000000.00 in appropriations. as far as i understand is what you're asking me. $40000000.00. it could be going to feed americans to go hungry tonight. okay. i'm not saying this for some ice relation this you know, in between the war way. it's just,
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it's clear that the african countries don't want your money from what my experience is after visiting african countries or mama. i've been to africa to and they are grateful with name one country center. go send the goal. you've seen what's happened instead of going to know years ago found the goal is in the art is set, a goal is just rejected a subject. i don't think you know what you're talking about. let's go to an area your mortgage with this article is government is thrown out usaid on the i m f. loans, but we can't, we can't control the profit excess of africa any more than try it again or russia cad. well, it's so you can't blame that on. i think you just said it clearly because it was soft. patrick, i think you should look at what samantha power did over a 4 year period for jo bye. and then we could have a conversation. what do you think as a matter, as i tell me about how do you think about a as well, i think she did her best. i wish she were a little more aggressive, but you tried to hold the organization together what it was under attack uh before
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she came into the bottom of the ministration. and she's definitely a humanist. she wrote an excellent book on genocide. i think she has good credentials. brock obama took her into the administration for a very good reasons. she stands head and shoulders above the typical bureaucrat, you're gonna see around the world because she has strong feelings about the amount of journey and a some of the power is a cheerleader for the war that is, thankfully only coming to an end will you just let your virus, all my use, most degree the libya or individual is about why don't, why don't you talk about it just a full days of action and libya and get off the propaganda. what does it propaganda? your speaking up and promoting samantha power, who now is under investigation, she's under investigation as i understand it for fraud, alleged fluid because of her personal finance as far as performing her salary at usa idea, she's under investigation for fraud. i think the implication was very from the oval
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office use in the past. you think you did? you see acacia. ok. america. mom about the power obviously you just said was taken up by a bama. so it's about the power was cheer leading. the invasion of libya and the destruction of the good that the government africans, which is because of the country you supported the as well, i don't, i don't attribute it to a i d. and they were under a power outage when the power no, no is hillary clinton. it was a citizen rice, we're pushing obama and it was a, i think you need to look it up. it is commands, it is amount of a let's go to 5 and storing is best to prevent it. it is, it is clearly so that the battle, you don't like to say god with the new national defense. the national director of national intelligence is that she's back crazy. does that translate into? i'm not happy with that. yes. tell me why did they tell me why you think that as
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well? her trip to syria was a very good example of meeting with the side and then lying about how the meeting was set up and who was at the meeting. if she's denied that the russians were using a fighter aircraft in syria, and she repeated russian propaganda about the united states providing uh by a warfare instrumentation to ukraine. she's gone all over the lot, ideologically. i don't know what she really stands for to turn over the intelligence community of 18 different agencies. this $82000000000.00 budget is just nonsense and it's just one of the miserable appointments. trump is made. whether you look at the cash patel and f, b i or john radcliff at c, i a or pipe on the the attorney general's office. it leaves elden at the environmental protection agency which will be turned back into
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what trump did to it in the 1st term. it's a disaster professional melvin goodman. i'll stop you that more from the pharmacy. i am the list and now senior fellow at the center of international policy after this break the, the, the, [000:00:00;00]
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the the welcome back to going, undergoing necessarily with policy analysts. and now professor of government, a joint elkins university professor melvin goodman. well, you're saying that you don't like to see gavin's appointment by the senate. i don't know. no, i'm saying i don't like any of the appointments. i'm just putting tossing gabbert at the top of the list with the cash patel josie garbage facility or no more. yeah, my favorite, here's my favorite robert f kennedy who's going to be running the health of human services along with dr. i also be running medicare and medicaid. these are people who are totally unqualified. i haven't,
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i haven't even mentioned did hex that you started out talking about with this so called conversation be guides. yeah, and of course is absolutely fine view and want to like the appointments, but clearly through the way the united states system works, they have to be confirmed by congressional appointment. and so they don't have to be confirmed that can be denied conservation. and if there was a serious republican party or not the people like uh, bill cassidy from louisiana, who's a physician and obviously forgot what the hippocratic code is all about and voted for r f. kennedy junior, whose own family does sound so. so you're basically saying the united states is rotten to the core. no, i'm saying the trump in history ition is rotten to the cord. i know because i smell . yeah, but it has to be confirmed by congress. and it's clearly a democratic mandate, the trump and the both houses of congress, the have you until the guy. but you started off your purchase,
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the bags you had fire at this. why don't you add the supreme court to that list of what trump controls? i know, even in the painting of this little picture, i have popular majority, but i have 3 people. he appointed the supreme court. yeah, he seemed to be paying a very dismal end of the very business situation. and it has global implications because a recommendation is a good example. yeah, i want to get all drugs are in a 2nd, but just you made an allegation about to us a guy with a new national director of national intelligence. a thank you. you live going you like area also, gavin. you said she shouldn't have gone to syria. why should she not have gone to syria? i didn't say she shouldn't have gone to syria. so well what i said, i see you. you don't listen. you talk so much that you don't hear what's being said to you. a. she lied about what happened in syria. she defended a side after her visit to syria. if she didn't acknowledge that she met with a terrorist while she was in syria, that's my problem. i,
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i'm in favor of person to person diplomacy. i'm in favor of talking to putting i'm in tech favor of talking to jason paying the conversations was putting which trump started like to this trade off of a hostage that allowed the release of mark fogel who should never been jailed in the 1st place. but you do that by, by choppy, this is something that motion she denies for live, as an eisenhower understood. and i think it was wrong. or find to cut off all contacts with food and was z essentially. uh, because of ukraine or because of the tractor, taiwan, we still have to keep talking. we have larger interest with the russians in china. so then ukraine does what she obviously so as a guy with denies a in any way that she lied about it. and that i every day and think that she wants to, but she's now the director of national intelligence. so, you know, she's, she's going to be able to and you know, good on shore line. and i don't know, i saw that aspect on guys. do you don't think it's refreshing from trump that we finally uh,
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on mosque was us policy arguably being to the palestinians for decades. bible and blinking were responsible for genocide, the names of synonymous with genocide across the global south. oh, within a few hours here, i'm sure this is more in the is really camp and by and never could be. absolutely. i mean, i don't think that can be criticized that opinion, but he stopped the for a while. the aerial bombardment of guys is something that bite him and harris was who stopped the aerial bombardment of kaiser donald trump for the cx. 5 a deal. see soccer. who is the range because nothing out of who was not left with any targets. sorry. what are they bombing there? they're, they're making that is uninhabitable. and there was none of the aerial bombardment stopped. when i trump as lie, let me finish where i'm say, and that's why nothing. now who's smirking and the whole time that trump unveil this madness idea that we're going to take casa,
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we're going to kick all the palestinians out. and jordan and egypt are going to take that man as just the king of jordan. we'd be in a position to take in hundreds of thousands of palestinians. i don't think trump knows anything about gaza. he knows nothing about that knock but he knows nothing about palestinian displacement. going back to 1948 and not the entire world except for right wing jews. it is real. are highly supportive of what he's doing or i don't think anyone can argue against what you said you there, but it's a matter of charity. i totally agree with you, but i mean, yeah, my name's the policy. okay. yeah, most of the big dollars. do you know who you pointed as impassive or israel? like fuck me. but i think anyone what i didn't know it completely when when would stop? what's uh, i've tried to gauge how much you really understand. just hop the ever use the term palestinians. does he acknowledge the job to austin a know we had semester? we have donald trump's deputy assistant on this program. we were watching
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a robo he he, he actually said to me on camera saying there's no such thing as a palestinian, but i didn't go well. no one can disagree with you about that. and when the influence of christian zionism and zionism on the trump administration, the fact is that the mask is off. we know what the plan is. am now he's talking about, of course the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the united, the world arguably in the kind of reinvigoration of the 2 state solution. you don't see anything to be got out of uh, obviously which one is on the surface. uh, something approaching um, approaching nazi policy against the jews. i mean, if you're taking what trump is saying at face value, yes, of course it's appalling, but it's having effects that are not the effects that to those supporting it. why we should have the effects that you see that are so good. egypt clearly are now rejecting a meeting at the white house that was easy. jordan, not accepting the displacement about his stuff, the other students,
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the entry plans there and down the media. they just delayed it the you a inside the array via boat, completely against the ethnic cleansing van as is the whole everyone everyone's against it. anyone who has any humanitarian sense, this is against it, is racism. it's part of the, the me, the genocidal campaign that doesn't your husband waging since october the certificate. but so you would prefer the cloak on under a person like blinking rather than do oh you, you make you make these false comparisons. i, i've never supported blake and the secretary of state. that's never been my position to use these 5. maybe tell me what the silver lining you can they say that i'm going to finish what i started say, and if you want to keep talking while i'm talking, that's fine by me. but no one's been understand what either one of is to say by the through in the tao with israel when he went there in october the 15th and basically gave israel carte blanche. so you had our of american communities in place like
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michigan, the state of michigan, the city of deer board voted for a truck not realizing that trump will be worse for the palestinians. the inviting could ever be because bite is at least a decent person. trump is incredibly on coast and supports the worst, and this is really policy. and this idea that i'm going to just take over, i'm going to take us, i'm not going to pay for nobody know us soldiers involved, which means is these really defense forces which have been conducting a year and a half of genocidal campaign will be in a position to do they, what do they want? a garza and while he's distracting us with that, the israel laser playing after the cleansing operations in the west bank. so nothing could be worse for the home community and the palestinian community. then the trump's real estate deal, and you'll have to keep in mind that this was a real estate deal for the beginning. if you look at trump real estate, billionaire,
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if you look at his son is sunday law questionnaire real estate. no you there. if you look at the last is really bassinger, the israel under the 1st term, david friedman, real estate. i know you there. if you look at the special ed and boy with cost real estate billionaire, it's a this to, it's a trump is a transactional, real estate deal has nothing to do with the diplomacy, which he doesn't understand. we know that from the 1st term, the way he handled a drawn loan in the way he dealt with the booby, but he does think he knows real estate. so that's what we're saying. he didn't discuss the plan with his own advisors. mike wants the national security adviser who was in over his head, knew nothing about it, secretary of state, rubio knew nothing about it. uh, the intelligence community wasn't based on what, what, what involved and what the consequences, what day it was
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a seat of the pants idea. and he's a seat of the pants. egomaniac, whose narcissism is going to create problems, not only for the united states, but for the entire global community. and i'm sure a potent education thing couldn't be happier, that they're gonna see of diminished america as a result of this administration for self to sit there and quibble about what our obama administration did, or what a samantha powers did. oh, your lack of knowledge about a id is meaningless and a big deal with what's happening in the global community today. so can i just say a lot of people agree, a lot of people watching the great you have had us, are you rather quite a say here, a lot of people will be agreeing with a lot of what you've been saying. they won't agree with using biden is essentially decent. and if you're talking about that into one of the other ways, richards, but capital to country libya being destroyed compared to what trump has done and saying the trump should i use the same dialogue is important at the same time criticizing. trump, for me to give jonathan and somebody saying that the ukraine war under biting was
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better than the trump uh, put in relations uh before, before a bite and was elected. who is michael domino, you, you, you like this guy, assistant secretary of defense for the middle east blog. i don't know him, but i've read him. and it was a puzzling appointment because he seems rather rational to be a he wants a lower us presence less us visibility in the middle east. he's willing to reduce the us military presence around the world, which involves nearly $700.00 bases and operating sites and cut the sale of these russia has 2 bases in syria. china has one base on the owner of africa into booty. so he seems to make sense to me. i don't know how he slipped through. uh, the guardians of donald trump and made it into the pentagon. but as long as someone like hex it is the secretary defense,
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i don't expect anything good to come out of the pentagon anyway. clearly the most important to issue even above usa id is where is that good said is a resumption of scott nuclear disarmament treaties. there is no more important issue facing any of us. i have nothing happens. the arms control expert in the trump administration. i'm just about to ask you a nothing obviously happened on the bible hires genocide, jo, holocaust, harris. nothing happened under obama. nothing happened under these people. really the bad rush. i hope you're wrong about obama. you don't know your facts about obama destroyed libya. pharmacy, you know it, destroy libby advocacy of yours. you're obsessed with libya. but let me just look good. and remember that there's no argument about that anyway. just tell me what you think there are prospect of reviving. i mean, as far as i understand that there will be a trump, who's in meeting, do you think that there will be any progress on strategic alms limitation that affect every human being on this planet?
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as well as a drop is a, as opposed to reliance on nuclear weaponry. but i don't think he has the city slash the patients uh to work out or no arms control position. i was at the salt talk, i was the intelligence advisor to saw one. i was in vienna and 71 and 72. and your audience should understand how much work is involved and getting to an artist control agreement. the truck isn't prepared to do that kind of work. he has no arms control advisor. he has no arms control staff. it's not like the obama administration that re negotiated based the new started agreement to correct what you were saying about obama and arms control, which unfortunately, expires in january or february of next year. which worrisome is now china is building up to a position that could equal the united states and russia in terms of nuclear,
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a majority nuclear weapons have no utilitarian value whatsoever. the fact that these 3 nuclear powers modernising is we are, are expanding the way the china is, or threatening to put nuclear weapons in space. the way i food is, is why the function of atomic scientists as move there tuesday, clock closer to midnight. this is a very serious issue, just like climate control was a serious issue for visible a good way out of time. thank you so much progressive. well, the good news that type of the show will be back with a brand new episode on saturday, and you'll then keep in touch by the social media. if it's on the 10th of deal country that drive channel going on gradually on level, they'll come towards noon old episodes of going on the grounds. he's having the take
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a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic. isn't just the shots of reality distortion by tell us to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st? can you see through their illusion going underground can hello and welcome defrost the full force here. we discuss some really the force it near wash. lots of stuff is a lot out of the t at the fortune of us. and that suddenness portions here goes never the result was to any pushing,
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nate or studio to see more option that this be so for ship. if we started last week and you want you to it was a school in your welski territory. so this could save the natural logos of itself, form a ship portion, or is it the whole day or avoid me? talk about a football i still knew about chavo in gold and i'm a serious close i you was and i thought i thought and board us at ocean and continued to go out and died in the now probably in the shows the south, the system, the about spilled those so you can do so full, so comfortable at the blog post and just got a smith gasket, bluish voice coming out on the bus, which is still going to me. so i'm on the publisher. i'm just, i'm a got the going in. go use the talk about some level, you get to talk about it. there's dorski a whole bunch bundle of the circle comfortable the summer, but on they're not. i mean yeah, the desktop i do have both come similar to stuff. some of
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the the breaking news one step closer to piece the cabinet and confirm that a top, the diplomatic delegation will had to saudi arabia on tuesday. and that'll sit down with their american counterparts. full check up all the tools that political specimens of ukraine we will listen to our american count of parts and of course we will be ready to respond. we will report back to our leaders who will make decisions regarding further steps. inside the long time they've done it before realism entered the white house. as donald trump tease is an invalid, please told with a lot of experts and opt out to your pan officials and viral off the washington

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