and it's done now and we've moved on donald trump has a very different view. he wants economic cooperation and competition, i'm sure, as well. he enjoys that. so, but to get to that, there's a lot of steps in between. you talked about the minerals, for instance, and, and ukraine. he was asking, we're back. well, russia owns 22 percent of those minerals and ukraine now. so that's going to be, have to be negotiated. what does that mean? does that mean the us let's go of that. that demand, um, zalinski of course, is trying everything cuz he's desperate. i think that you're going to see in the next few weeks, they're going to head towards a legitimate election and you crank, he will not win. and i'm wondering what his fate will be if he's gonna have to run and hide novilla somewhere. um, but we'll see. but i think the next step will be, of course, russia and us talking some more repairing the to diplomacy in getting that going. but also there has to be

a legitimate election and ukraine in order for these peace talks to have us, you know, assigned legal documents. and so the next kind of moves will be towards legitimizing piece for a long term. yeah, well, so looking kind of big picture. um, do you say, i mean we've known that drum unit, he says that how he sees it. right. and he's not a diploma in the classic sense. the what is kind of a new era of diplomacy, where someone says, well, the best thing to which in a way is know bostic. i'm do you think trump as a, we're not realist, understands that there are a number of global issues which cannot be resolved without russia. russia has incredibly good relationships with almost every single, in fact, every single nation in the middle east. they've got bricks are in the g 20, they're both shanghai cooperation with an ice ation. they're part of who these multi lot troll global south lead a our phones. there's also

a tool to about data on the rise ations for example. so do you think trump on the sounds of it is and america's best interest to have a dialogue with vladimir putin in order to also protect america from any kind of trends that might comment backed absolutely in a 2nd nomic as well. and you were touching on energy and all of those things and ties because donald trump is going to need help. and emily snow particularly the quagmire, those become right. so yes, absolutely. and i think the g 8 that he mentioned, he wanted to bring russian back in to, you know, and of course there's been talk about the olympics freshman athletes coming back. and i mean, normalizing by normalizing we're saying you remember how vilified an anti russia the rhetoric was, and a lot of that was illegally done through us a i g funding and funding places like rotors and whenever they were socially engineering, an anti russia message. so that's all changing now because donald trump has made a clear that our future needs to be balanced and needs to also be with the east.

you know, talked about economic co operation. you obviously mentioned the sanctions. we know that roster is on the unprecedented number of sanctions, but what's interesting, what we heard from group here, what we had from the russian delegation members as well. is it absolutely financial aspect of the relationship and investment is incredibly important. it was emphasized by both sides, and i wonder if there's also realization in washington, which the issue is not necessary to willing to do to recognize that that policy has absolutely failed. i mean, the number that one of the most, cuz delegation of escape was american companies was $300000000000.00 from the thing the rush market. so do you think it's also the white house coming to kind of the content is not, not as good as a business to be in russia. we need to get this story is a nice little just so we can find stuff pretty all pop pockets. of course, i mean rushes for its largest economy. and that's with all those thousands of

sanctions. i imagine it came to the 4th largest economy in the world. the ruble is strong, and in fact it got strong. it's, it's getting stronger. so of course, and then of course donald trump has mentioned he's worried about brits. he even threatens things, not st. joe's terrorist on countries that would try to dump the dollars so he feels very strongly about moving away from brooks and trying to move russia back in. so we'll, that's going to be an interesting dance because brooks is very successful. so will be and it'll be interesting to see how he, there's some given take there. but i think what you pointed out about mark reveals emphasis about the economic plus you had people, they're really talking about the economic that of course they were talking about sanctions and what, what will be lifted and how things will be normalized. for instance. um, you know, russia needs to be able to do business with western companies normally. now will europe get on board while i think next week, after those meetings, we'll have

a better idea of where they stand. but i think it would be in their interest because they, a lot of their economies are taking france, germany, great britain. all of them europe as a whole, is that 3 percent growth, which is dismal. so they are needing to get back with russia. and of course, as the energy concerns as well, you know, we hodge from market reviews obviously talking about sanction said, that's kind of one piece of the puzzle here. um, i was reading a comment audio from an e representative news that even a few estimates the sanctions window going to we're going to have a quick, independent policy. um is that you even capable of having an independent policy when it comes to washington? i think that's a delusional statement on their part. they can't um, sustain economically. right now how, how could they possibly do that? they don't have, they don't have the wherewithal to handle that, nor do they have the public interest. you have european business people that want

to do business with russia in china, and then it's lucrative. and of course that's going to outweigh, whatever kind of politics are being, you know, political rhetoric is kind of being dancing around. do you think that there is that which option? not just about the west, but also the, the global south. and really, people who are looking at the headlines read to about, you know, women details that are coming through hearing what is undeniably a positive and you know, feedback from both sides. do you think there is a realization amongst people that this is a new era? this is almost a, you know, that that was the full and the original one was like, the 2nd you all to confront. yes, it did have that field. and now it was like watching history on fold in that moment of feeling that relief of not having the threat of nuclear war over us for the 1st time. i think that realization is setting in for citizens across the world. i think

that countries like india and you are probably taking note and feeling a sense of relief as well. imagine, you know, for the, for the other countries watching all of this. um, the fact that saudi arabia was involved, the fact that you had such high level people right off the bad on both sides and says that moscow took the seriously. washington dc takes it seriously. you know, and, and frankly, the russian mission has been treated terribly in new york at the un. hopefully they will be treated in a better way and they'll be some fence mended. i mean, i don't know if you notice, but russian diplomats can think of outside of the 20 mile radius. they get um tag by the f b i a text to go. yeah. they are, they're not allowed to like go outside that. so it's really ridiculous. they've treated the russian delegation, they're like criminals in a sense, and it's not okay. and donald trump has made it clear that that's, that's ending that there's going to be respond mutual respect and a cooperation and piece on piece that i think is the wish that everyone would

assign on full star i know with waiting for enough growth. so hopefully we'll get you by phone with that to get your impressions, get both sides of pulls of what happened in our room though. i'd like to be a fly on know that will about. so i'm going to say that was all to contribute to tar reboots. will be joining me a bit later on. well, we were talking about the various issues in the agenda and of course the possible piece deal with kids that is up for discussion, but it won't be anything like tar. and i were talking about the issue of western sanctions. backfiring that was clearly raised to american companies, recorded those of hundreds of millions of dollars after they packed up the businesses and accepted the russian market. so paving the way for that return is definitely on the table. and that was something that was rich, rich and confirmed by a delegation member carrillo demetrius. the stay connected is very important to discuss the joint economic projects. we will discuss joint projects for their

assumption of dialogue in general, and will certainly move along the political track, which is headed by mr. lever off and mr. chicago, respectively. and the economic track i have been assigned to leave and i believe that we will reach a mutual understanding. and this mutual understanding will be reflected in joint projects. for example, we know that a number of us oil companies want to return. therefore, it is necessary to establish a dialogue in areas not only political, but also in investments in economics. on the one hand, we have some losses. and then the other hand, our economy is growing by 4 percent per year, and the european economy is either not growing or best is growing at one percent. and therefore many of our colleagues believe sanctions on the contrary actually contributed to our economic growth. they contributed to our independence in our sovereignty. it is absolutely obvious that president biden's policy has undermined confidence in the dollar and is actually created many threats to the american

economy. divided ministration has created a very wrong narrative. in fact, the sanctions helped russia become more independent, but they heard the dollar and heard american companies. many american companies have simply lost significant future revenues and loss. while we also hearing that to the russian foreign minister, so okay, now growth is speaking to the press following pulls the confusion of those tools. that's just a bunch of different beautiful official visits the goods. gotcha. so i think that the more when we might be helping a technical issue, but hey, let's see some backstage clearly. so. okay, no problem. just setting up the stage,

preparing the scene for him, we will be returning to that. i've no doubt they'll be lots of questions on lots to say, let's just say also sneak preview of politics. i've just been told that does now sound. so let's go back to the problems. this is the leadership of this facility is most, all right? yeah. but at least you finish with us, he's given us this to and, and see to it mouldings meeting the 3 of the restaurants and the american representatives on the express this gratitude to personally and to apprentice and model. um, it depends on mine needs to see what it looks like, who, when together, when you're doing your anal chicago, the young to vocal adjustability the i'm not sure where it is. reception that was at all. it's in about an hour additional to discussing all the electronic sizes to be in the building, sort of ensuring that and if not completely, these agreements around the world as you both felt was at least read and as some great some of our summer in any situation to main site as long own professional style longer. you said it's not easily because trying to be heard for these guys

this year for scripts. and so take lessons from what has happened in the prevent almost like some crisis enough to get nobody. and so this is the position of the friends you're not a mess of the sessions. and this was essentially a lot of good to do for a producer from heated. so sort of for chip during our meeting with micros rubio version list. so in the beginning, middle underscore, the press the phone and it will impulse on site and in the summer, and that's every country be guided by its own national interest of the students to a statement that they completely it really difficult. so can you let you speak with the coordination, of course, those national interests? no, because they didn't use a for the never or the police go into excel inside your subscriptions. i did for some thoughts on the display is confronted to regulate human discuss prevents the publication of a name of the southern and the military confrontation, or any other contributed to some of those national interests. align the need to do

everything to united. so have for us disable these tracks on the sake of mutually beneficial projects, both in the jo booted goals, fear and in economic if there is a little move. so the conversation to pause, i think very useful because the social, the noise solution very valuable. we didn't just listen to each other, but we heard each other and they have all the reasons to believe that the americans will go to the policy and now has a better understanding of our positions and the points in the category based on the computer. not really a numerous features but present to 10 of us. and they had to sort of students a to thank you, come with those expressive you on 2nd, the agreements that we change, the number one you can go to probably the most urgent one you somebody solution and not the most difficult one. a dispute should study a shouldn't just let you in you to insure a sieve. so sure is that so invested as of russia, of federal in america and america in russia are assigned as soon as possible to be

able to see what and the obstacles is that i'd see both in the frustrating each student that the biden has ministration built for the last couple years people might be, should obstacles in the way of our system as a us, as a vision. yeah. you could have both to seriously hampering the work. the spanish move we sold, you national diploma from the got the moving. there's the sending out our zip limits to something definitely handled to this promotion, responded to the seizures of our real estate supplement at many other things to the world. and bank transfers with waste is about to shift. so, you know, so that's how limited as much as it needs to be. so we have agreed that so that he stays in the godaddy of subsidies as soon as possible, will agree on the meeting with you, mr. strong union. with it, you could look into the leads to remove those outs official, the larry, or electricity, and obstacles in the way of embassies, as others feel similar spends near goods and through russia in america, you know, america in,

in russian 3 point where they cheapest the steel and to where it may say to them, but was it says i'm likely on removing them still, the end to this disease, never mind difficulties that of the hamper, the progress of our normal relationships still. but the other thing we agreed upon sort of middle on of process full, great and still soon there will be a process for them to on the crate in settlement of the american policy will say, always go into the represent the state of washington. for moses, i'm email and this project, and the soon as soon as we know the name and the position you and which of the american representative and we as president, i agreed with president trump, joshua, which just will immediately lu names. our representative and employees here ends village research and things more general than we agreed to create conditions, as well as it looks really good when you create this as the settlement process

unfolds. this load here that the rest of the create conditions are sure. so 2 issues was for our corporation to resume, fully see that list and expand the new c o to cover, but she also has different aspect. so there was a great interest for leslie shared towards resuming consultations on to a political cause, issues for the us, including various conflicts in various parts of the world. show you what i see. but this is where both the united states and russia beloved shows interest of interest as it was great interest in removing cronsa, official obstacles, the school in the way of mutually beneficial economic cooperation. your economics must be financially certainly for the discussion of economic aspects of our, today's meeting low, but i see scope on the head of the russian. you, those are a nation of their investments carol admits right for the present there. and he presented the my blue book,

certainly see that i see issues that could be the search. and i thought i'd seen that i was assuming the results to the benefits of russia and the united states like so please, your questions have been different estimates and i would like to the so what's the, as on what's track our, our position is currently the closest of so to see have you managed to lay the foundation for presidential meeting and will tell the next steps? what will be your next steps? meetings may be and the state secretary site that's uh, unless you have concessions that give them up will be required from all parties. was a when you, when you ask for a mattress that we do for each the mutual understanding on who usually doesn't necessarily mean bringing positions closer to the lady. this one was like,

we have practically agreed that to be needs to be a national diploma. just once and forever solve the problem with the functioning of our diplomatic missions. with joe will go and ask for our local and international affairs. she goes in a bus much and bye. you'd listed in virginia. we have expressed so initial commitments to find in specific solutions. and what could i ask you too much to ask for on the ukraine in the subject of ukraine, social studies on some as much of their so the americans that need to go in to the point they are representatives as a little believe will do the same she can sort that sort of michigan set out to that consultations will begin and they will be with them. the issue with regular states normally show to support and ask for a foundation for presidential meeting. the cd looks good to go to the president's agreed. so actually to prepare the someone else to the residential summit with

someone and to that's and the national security adviser and the store and your printer software and the fairness of both of the gym go in to meet and it should be good to see what's the sort of what needs to be worked on before the presidents actually work out to date, a specific date for their summit like costs help, but it's asking immediately after this meeting, there were lots of rumors referencing sources close to the diplomatic process about a sole code's 3 stage plan, that's russia in the united states agreed on ukraine. and another question before this meeting, the united states sent you countries a questionnaire where they were asking about votes, e u countries getting a little for in terms of guarantees for ukraine. and the question was asked about the possibility of sending that you were being contingent,

little so to crane blooms people. how does most of you with that for the last about a 3 stage plan. i haven't seen the reports that they'll know was due. but today, when shall we go in for the news this morning? news, but i found a reference to your statement school us by 4 and the minister of poland, products of course, the statement somewhere in the margins of the munich conference. it's like you to them. so she said he had a med till a good with kit kellogg, and you'll look pretty in front of me. a little you will. and cadillac blind you within fontaine, people the should be about a certain to see quotes you give me the settlement glass goes off. so commencing on that plan, sikorsky said he con, plug me to beach, and we can go into the details my insidious. but that's what she said, that the plan could be quite interesting and dies asked those mission reveals that are today what this could be of what this could mean that they told me it was facing issue with student for global issue in photo mindset. just

a minute or other question about a certain questionnaire. what, but also sent to the european union to be on the books themselves and the lordship . and yet when they go over it, cuz it says i use better understanding of what's the, your opinion is going to do for each and have the americans can help you alternate all of the there. well, i mentioned that to some could also said that my seats in the inside of the what does it go to the potential deployment of you, they name, which is q troops, if any ons forces or peacekeeping forces you to have to. the settlement is settled or, and the grievance is reached. contingent to good. what sort of people, mind you, contingents as this questionnaire says, admitted guns of the solution, is it and you get to use that on the go through. we for the americans, would like to see what countries are ready to provide. so i'm trip. see what else i use. my obviously didn't mention significance of and i'm today at today's meeting, we explained stuff and said that's yes. could we notes that very well that

president from pen several of his speech is the 1st among the western leaders. had said many times that drawing ukraine into nato. the list is one of the main reasons . so it was happening cuz that is one of biden's to be think, guess its mistake. um, but it's at the end of the month. but the fluent dentist had trump been president effects and it wouldn't have to be split that happened should include them. in this connection, we explained to our counterparts that 1st inputs and had many times on the schools that she knew nato expansion money. and so it's a pretty my overalls and planes entrance is a direct because of the threats to the interests of the russian federation. a direct threats to silver and slickness. we really and for that reason why we say today's you, this deployment is on my palms. troops from nato countries, room florida, but slug under it was in a different flag under an e. u flag,

or of the national flags. doesn't change anything. it's unacceptable to us. on the eve of the meeting, the armed forces of you prayed, acted on a text with a couple of things. kat pumping stations on the gas pipeline on that one pipeline is that carries american and european oil cars like something is loose or salt, something like this. of a sort of, aside from, from savanski about what the key version can do. and do you see any, should the connection between was e. u. countries say it's not, it's good to see any connection with their claims on historical rights and for your brain in labs. some of those that you get asked for this attack against the energy infrastructure of cars like stuff, essentially the bumps good,

the good stuff to him. so there's all of us. we can surmise all the ones about the certificate ski. the one can be behind this order of who that is someone and can, could it be, see from union actually gave. this only goes to show that list can not to consider like that, that this, my mom's a landscape and his entire same. that support has to be brought to reason that had to be slabs from because the guards, most of which got to these to go with them are up to it even on the bus. they are american counterparts. speaking about the way a sort of a moratorium has probably to being posed against attacks against the energy subjects of energy infrastructure to limit the we say that we had never jeopardize the exact opposite loser was what was wrong. they see little could i, you civilian energy infrastructure of the week, only attacks all channels that serves things with bonds, forces of the plays the militarist. that's what we've great. well, so for those, so the, let's give me a buzz that you can make out those. the book and there was a question i present maintenance, they've in the black. same deal with is it

a got thrown this up? so they expressed, all right. and as to discuss the mortality a while ago was so then the landscape gave up this discussion to see the best desire a viewer of to be at the negotiation stable. do you think it has something to do with your name? countries claims the cubic historical rights for the dual credit and in territory because you don't remember them about the patients in romania discuss. that's recently. i'm not going to guess here. yes, today, zalinski said he does not recognize the results of negotiations between russia and america. how important to you things of an skis, participation in these talk. this is what sort of december kennedy, but the general but little me, some of them expect to be part of this process and i'm not going into detail. that's because some seem to be best must,

will cover the coverage extensively by present puts in, in his interview to bottles or bids. so i have nothing to add here. it has been solve this for many that there are attempts to undermine these, you know, attempts to resume relationships between you, russia and the united within the united states of america. what do you think process to do store to within those attempts out to this meeting, dealing with the plant merits as well to restore relationships with the rush farm. yeah. so she knows that as well to prevent elijah which jenny attempt is in your mind is to says around this because i'm showing the relationships between russia and is the equipment needs to continue, will tend up to this meeting. i sure most of the things say that has been quite a success lockwood concept, the conceptual approach of the nature of what you on the look to sort of the steps

for the city, for though it was laid down by the president for future and their phone call knew that and we must, we felt some good evening us 3 most coveted, great attitudes and willingness tomorrow. american counts about those as this is a new video to push this forward, but it should have been a good fit. obviously, you know, but as of you may accidentally and we're going to do the same. thank you. well, that'd be had a so gay law off the russian foreign minister. it's been a very long day for him. he takes off those meetings with the us delegation around 10. so the local time, they talked for about 2 and a half hours had this quick 50 minute break, went on for an hour and had a watching not and hear what was done. this all taking him to find out what happened behind closed doors. if you'll joining us, just to remind you, there's 2 sides, one meeting installed, you re, but the 1st time that we've seen such high level 12 and over 3 and

a half years. the main things i'll point out from la propes speech, he's had absolute priority. we both agreed, we need to get our embassies up and running and functioning normally. what's been happening over the last few years, which is tit for tat expulsions? families being expelled by can no longer a function. it is not possible to maintain channels of communication. when you act like this and you said things like for example, infrastructure and making sure, but we can transfer money. these are things that are very possible, very tangible and can be result. obviously, he talked about, you know, we actually have, despite what a lot of people say areas of interest that overlap. and it's important to try to unlock the potential of this relationship. very much echoing what we heard from the us sector of state, marco rubio, who talked about, quote, extra or re opportunities, i mean, sought to change and tone from what we've heard from the previous by to an

administration of goals. finally, of course, the absolute bulk of that press conference was dominated by questions regarding ukraine. and he said that fast up, we're going to stop to a, what high level watching group the. this is going to present a list of names, what the makeup of its team is going to look like. then we all going to present was and then of course it's ultimately going to be up to the document to, to, to talk about when those negotiations start. but he did absolutely emphasize, for example, the progress promise of 2008, georgia. i'm ukraine. thing of that nature, membership is all things and this is something has his spokeswoman in foreign ministry and most good watch. and he said well, so audio today says, but no longer be on the table. rushes security concerns have to be respected. very interesting. you a bit of an inside he, a party off us decorative statement could be outright, if this time that had been room and flow to where out about peace keepers being

sent to ukraine was true. ruby, the party said it is a faint, odd way. he said, look, it doesn't matter whether you go onto the us flag will the job and flag or you, when. in fact, it is not feasible and russia will not accept foreign foods on our territory. finally, uh, what i do want stays. we'd have been reporting on that attack on an oil pumping station in southern russia, and then it turns out that about a quarter of the oil barrel, she belongs to us cooperation. some suggested that that was an attempt by ts because it was attacked by ukrainian tried to overshadow the events in reality. it clearly didn't restore both from the people in moscow. there is a representative from washington. it was a solid start, a stop, but nonetheless, a base point from which we can now launch, move forward, try and cooperate what we can disagree, what we can, but also disagree civilly and not what again state chapa. and again.