the, the, the, the conversation was very useful. we not only listened but also heard each other. and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position. a moment for the history books, russia and the us hold best thoughts, high level meeting in is posted by saudi arabia. the 2 side spoke on a wide range of issues from normalization of biological ties to piece a new crate. diplomacy ultimately is based on our actions based on commitments that are kept the american tied praises, the tools as a huge and leap forward kind of greens that a palm m. p. if you're except to go to the crank or not at the table in reality, it's not amazing lensky,

but that didn't stop him from traveling to all the countries in the region, including the took chia web, previous piece to schools in 2022 also left out in the cold war, in you to, to hear a pen need of health that room talks where the emphasis was on the run thing off on supplies and keeping all the sites. but sometimes the bustle is keep, keep the leaders of the great countries of europe missed the moment when they could have taken the initiative on the russian war. in ukraine. e. u institutions are not capable of an initiative. the coming to my from a mother ship in most, cuz it's not the international one. it's shaping up to be a busy day. so that's consulting. 12 to 4 and a half hours talks between the us and russian delegations have wrapped up in riyadh

. speaking off towards most goes talking to promote express positivity at the day's walk. so getting a profound at the well, both countries would always be guided by the national interest. they could do so well maintaining, a respectful, professional dial to go to deals at the beginning of our conversation. this is marco rubio particularly emphasized the fundamental importance of each country. being guided by its national interest in international relations and when we fully agreed with this with these national interests of course will not always coincide understood, but when they do not coincide with me, it is very important to regulate these discrepancies so that so not to let them slide know for the need, especially not to provoke a military with you or any other kind of confrontational script you from the so much. so the conversation was very useful on thoughts. we not only listened but also heard each other who, you know, and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position of the deal. it's possible on this has called side now to uh,

to political correspond to your goal is to know if you flew into we out. yes. today you can't really just talk us through the highlights for you. positive. hopeful. well, 25 at the moment, but i'd say the vibe is quite complicated. maybe even difficult to describe. it was a very long day. as you're in saudi arabia, the talks lasted for 4 and a half hours and quite a lot came out of them. i have to say that the story, the story is made quite an efforts to prevent any a speculation or leaks from happening have as of it talks to still went on. so then we were basically bombarded by all these various statements after the talks ended coming from both sides. but i think the most important thing that happened today here in saudi arabia is that russia and the united states were able to make a very important 1st step towards normalizing their relations. they've agreed to

create mechanisms to normalize the work of their diplomatic commissions regarding the conflict in ukraine. they agreed to put together high level teams on each side, which will work to get or to look for diplomatic, sustainable solutions which would be suitable to all sides. and there also, i think it's a very important point that there are even now starting to look beyond the conflict in ukraine because they're saying that they want to lay the foundation for future dream projects in investment and economy. in all these projects, which me emerge after the confidence in ukraine is done, judging by what preferred today from representatives of both sides. it was a serious and optimistic conversation. you talk for 4 and a half hours. i stopped when yes. why not? and there was a very serious conversation on all the issues we wanted to touch upon. is this

positive? be constructive. everybody, they are the to get to the right outcome solution based we, we discussed it afterwards. we couldn't have imagined a better result after this after the session. it was very, very solid. i just want to stress that it's just about a week ago. it was so far to imagine something like this from happening. but then the phone conversation between president vladimir important and donald trump took place and now already were here in saudi arabia. we're looking at moscow in washington talking and most importantly, listening to each other like 4 minutes to elaborate said well was also, you know, being reiterating its position about the conflict for 3 years. i don't think we necessarily need to recap, but it's always been very clear about what those red line saw, what it's not wanting to negotiate on. i'm so from washington perspective,

have we heard anything new from the trump administration about what some given take might be of the well, it seems that the, the trump's administration approach to not only the conflict in ukraine, but i guess through the relationship with russia is quite different from the previous administration. i think it also echoes with the rest of the board in foreign ministers, words about listening to each other, your secretary of state, mark rubio said that this is about dialogue. this isn't about monologue. and he also said that any diplomatic success is possible only was concessions made by all sides. i think diplomacy ultimately is based on the actions based on commitments that are kept. so i think they came away today convinced that they are willing to begin to engage in a serious process to determine how and how quickly and through what mechanism can

in and be brought to this war. whether we can ultimately reach that outcome. well, obviously depend on every site in this conflicts. willingness to, to agree to certain things. so, um, i think it's important to have this meeting because we haven't really had much engagement with the russians for almost 3 years. and it's, that's the table for future conversations. how that turns out will be up to the parties and their willingness not just to make commitments, but to live by them that will be tested in the weeks to come. another important point to that was made to by the russian delegation. and this is according to foreign minister sergio lab or is that moscow finally was able to deliver it concerns and to the general stance on any theoretical deployments. also, any for un peacekeeping contingents in ukraine see him on the topic of the potential deployment of some kind of armed forces for peacekeeping contingency, allegedly after the conflict has already been resolved or an agreement has been

reached, is of interest to the americans, depending on which countries are prepared to provide the quest is being addressed to the members of the european union. we explained during our talks today that we have noted very well that president trump and several of his speeches was the 1st western leader to say clearly that pulling ukraine into nato was one of the main reasons for what is happening. that this is one of the biggest mistakes of joe biden and his administration, and that if trump for president at that time, he would not have allowed it to happen. so in this regard, we explained to our colleagues today that president putin has repeatedly emphasized that the expansion of nato, the absorption of ukraine by the north atlantic alliance is a direct threat to the interest of the russian federation, a direct threat to our sovereignty. so we have explained today that the appearance of armed forces from the same nato countries, but under a foreign flag, under the flag of the european union or under boost the national flags does not change anything in this regard. this is, of course, unacceptable to us. russia is talking about protecting its national interests. it's

a security and i think it's very important that this opportunity gave moscow the ability to deliver these concerns. and again, make this message for washington to be heard. what i think in washington definitely did say it because just as loud for off was measured, but also positive. uh, so what's the us delegation they described as a big step for this meeting on, is that any understanding of what could be, you know, in terms of concrete terms here for the future outcome of today's event of the well, i think uh, regarding the conflict in ukraine, it's pretty clear that both russia and the united states are on the same page, that it can become a frozen conference concept. it can be something temporary, it has to be a permanent end to the war. there are some to some underlying

principles. this needs to be a permanent, into the war and not a temporary and as we've seen in the past, we know just the practical reality is that there is going to be some discussion of territory. and there's going to be discussion of security guarantees. those are just yet fundamental basics uh that will, that will undergird and underlying any type of discussion. some very important words there, and frankly not many people expected to any sort of diplomatic breakthroughs or for the concept in ukraine to, to and here on this day in saudi arabia. but it's the 1st steps which are very important. i think it's very, it's, it's vital for the 2 countries to begin that way forward towards normalizing relations and towards the end of the conflict in ukraine and towards

a future where the 2 could work together on the same political correspondent, ample piece going off of giving us a rundown of today's biggest take ways of to this to start works in viet. thank you very much. you. it was uh those, the themes paid out in the saudi capitals landscape was on his own tool of the region from the u. a. he had to, to, to kia, he was also planning on stopping off in saudi arabia itself this week, but uh, that visit has been postponed until next month. was details of the tweaks and react to march soleski assisted that ukraine finally be accepted into nato. where else the west would be numbered with a forever. will you comp, just take nato membership off the table? it doesn't work that way. i don't think anyone is interested in afghanistan. 2.0. we have experience of what happens when someone finishes something without thinking it through and walks away very quickly. so that's got some thoughts on all of us

now and across live to retired. we will of talk a shot at naval forces on the dentist cook. chuck, welcome to the program. saw. i'm going to all me to, you know, obviously we know the in the spring of 2022 to k, a hosted the those piece torques that ultimately collapsed. do you think it's significant or symbolic that on the day, but the us and the russians were meeting and re add? so let us to chose to visit took you to on crap. i presume is that ask you to visit tier to set this stage for a durable solution once reach between russia and ukraine. i think they liked to lean on turkish presence there as

a honest broker. since turkey has proved to be one of the a peacemaker in as your network in the spring of 2022 where it didn't last long. instead of mention coming from sort of both his chest and wire washington just, i'm maybe state goods, ensure sound guarantees and meet the lies. what 10 to mr. is that asking is the about this idea. we had that from the lensky saying how important nature membership is to his nation and how he says, you can't take it off the table. um, do you think that one of the compromises that the us will make when it comes to a political settlement will be saying no to nature membership? few credit? i think us has already mentioned that it won't be possible for ukraine to be

a member of nato relative and you look at the nato's comes a composition and the roles of a good thing. members, it's almost impossible to adopt a new member, the ukraine. we know a certain borders within a not that position to offer us additional security to help to albany losses. i also just want to get you a general impression of the events in re ads. i mean, obviously we knew that it would be terminated by conversation about the war new prey. but do you see it significant as extending beyond the crane issue? i think this is a great deal of it or approach from between united states and russia that you're living coming much earlier is since interest of both sides, which not necessarily overlaps every time,

but they helped by maintaining such conversation to the stables, to of, to garth and the other and therefore it came late, but as committed by mister trump, it came within 3 weeks of time since he took over the office. therefore, i think it's the right move in right time. although mister, there's that has to be didn't like it. that's us excluded from that meeting. but this event show d a that for a minute, let's see and watch and the expect that the nobody else, the russian american relations will be continued and do the help to o. recliners of security for the region for the alliance. and so are you planning on russia as well? you set the salon, stay was ex, clear to it. i will say probably use it was, of course, any european saw. it didn't surprise you to not to say anyone from brussels at the

table a i think they should look at you versus washington relations to start with the washington does not like to c, e, u, a as a liability to, to his noting already got in for them policy, therefore they don't want to take its own, but also the bigger, bigger players in europe in front i know, are changing their executive branches at this moment it's elections coming and going that far. maybe he also like to see when the dust settled, that could be more reasonable ground for the us relations to be used to be normalized. but if you look at tulsa to a minute conference, and prior to me confidence later, defense ministers, me think, walk down the stand that there's a critique of this. this could have been see exist at this moment. that seems to be

a bit of a discrepancy or for us some of the fields be moving along the st. paul at the moment we're overseas, right. from trump, about piece we're hearing from you. well, we're not that interested in being involved in the conflict resolution, but we'll send more weapons. what is at the destroyed thing? here's push to prolong the conflict. is it because they genuinely still more in danger? because it's closer to home? are they somehow more invested in it? why do you think it is? i think a few themselves in that data they, they need to be making you to are. and that's difficult to, to do it before the eyes of the day of it clear public opinion since the a start by the end. in fact, the regulation of policy,

a venue constituted part of europe was not to follow mr. biden's policies intact. that should have been more lawyers. but it didn't happen. now they got stuck somewhere. well, we have very much appreciate your to ending us on the program retired wrapping up the tax naval forces lead in as quick net. thank you very much for your time today, sir. thank you. sounds good taylor having me have a good night bye. is deluded. that's how it rushes a foreign ministry spokesman has describes the use vision. but how the queen conflict. so then maybe do we see a nervous, if not panic, reaction from the west of the russian american contacts. it's surprising this reaction from the west regarding russian american interactions, especially considering that americans are part of the same west hopkins as be well apparent leave can be high level of russian american contacts are causing real hysteria among your atlantic results. we're witnessing what seems to be an

unprecedented phenomenon, international relations, the imposition of their own participation in the negotiation process. you see this involves some british and you friends of this elliptical criminal or shame, which demonstrates inability to move beyond its own permit of the mindset of producing a hybrid war with our country until the last ukrainian look again at european commissioner for defense under eskoville is what tirelessly insist that a just world is impossible without increasing your print of power. but take a look at the ukraine. i'm addressing that be representatives. now, what have you done to that country? look at the people, the citizens of this nation. what kind of power are you trying to increase with each door? well and re add to talk was focused on resolution, co operation and dialogue in brussels. the tone is different with the commission chief coaching to run up on supplies to kids. and that was said during our sort of on demands meeting with the us special and for

a few quite an important discussion with the general catalog on ukraine financially . and militarily, europe has brought more to the table than anyone else. and we will step up. we wants to partner with the us to deliver a just and less than piece where you crane. now is a critical moments meal if you keep the leaders of the great countries of europe miss the moment when they could have taken the initiative on the russian war. in ukraine folder, you institutions are not capable of an initiative. the council and the commission are composed of bureaucratic skills. there is no innovation at all that comes from there is the daily grind, and we no political vision or leadership if somebody is. meanwhile, the number of a heads of state gathered in paris for an emergency meeting on monday, and that they discuss how to deal with the new administration in washington. the latest heading to the northern student being involved in the conflict resolution. but i'm more than happy to increase the minutes facebook. so you quite

a bit to archie correspondence on it too much can you repeat and lead is seen to be at log a heads out in reason of what to do next. and the way feature not being able to come up with any concrete plans, despite the fact they met at that emergency meeting here in paris, it was an old european lead is no, it was just the select fee. and he does have countries like colon from germany and also the u. k. being invited to low into that. now the phase prime minister kids, selma, put things together. plans the census keeping true to ukraine. that didn't go down well with everyone. but here's what salma was like to do. your must play its role. and per pet consider committing purchased forces on the ground. alongside off those. if there was

a last in piece of agreement. but the must be a us box stop. because a us security guard seat, this is the only way to effectively deter russia from attack. can you create a good but case tell me say with god, bless your always he's going to need the us as a box stop. well too many cooks, boy the broth, that's what we heard from the us special and boy chief calla guntee. he might be white because they couldn't come up with a plan that they could all agree on. we have the usual folks like president backorder holding not meeting saying you needs to spend more money on defense stuff . also what we heard from this level and delay in the european commission president saying peace through strength. what she means is we need to keep building more weapons and buying more weapons. and that, of course,

is music to the ease of defense contract is a gym and he's law just defends contract to saying actually this is the entire reason why you're paying lead is, haven't been invited to that summit, the big boys summit and re between russia and the us and that's because they have and funded that defense for decades. now, if you don't invest, if you're not strong, they handle you like kids. if parents have dinner, the kids have to sit at another table. the us is negotiating with russia and no european is at the table. it has become very clear that the europeans, all the kids, problems for minnesota old. so it's amazing that at some point you will have to send it from steve crane at possibly also being requested by the united states to do that. and he was like, well, that's something we will need to acquiesce to. nature's chief saying europe is

willing to step up to the plate, but again, new details and lots. the points. new details will agree don't. in not meeting in paris inside was need a story that this is the gym and chancellor. all of schultz who said it is not the time to be discussing the future. if you claim with that ukraine furnished or screwed up, it is completely premature and completely the wrong time to have this discussion. now, i'm even a little irritated by these debates. i have to say people are talking here about possible variance of outcomes over the heads of ukraine. that's just about the outcome of piece talks that have not taken place. and with which ukraine has not said yes. and there's not sat at the table. this is highly inappropriate to put it bluntly and honestly, we don't even know what the outcome will be. well, the meeting in paris was just a sideline. and so i go on to what we don't know because there was some agreement

made. and it seems that you were being leaders of flaming rammed almost like headless chickens after the announcements that we've been seeing coming up from the white tests. and you can imagine loosely, this will be, has left paris. i'm wondering what is going to be the outcome of the tools at the big boy table. i'm not 2nd place later today in the, at since february twinge twins to install controls to western nations. the global south has petition for a political sacrament to the conflict. so today's to look for welcomed by many players, including nigeria, as foreign minister says no opportunity to reduce pensions should as a, a post over. it's a welcoming development. it's always good to see to lead as leaders of global powers meeting and talking because it provides the opportunity to resolve conflict and these tensions. this is something that i'm sure, every well meaning citizen of the planet would welcome the problems between that i

send you sort of mentally um, is fundamentally, was caused by the, by the, you know, many european nations with a full size. oh, full size facility, continue creating that i shift, you know, so you kind of have the same people who uh, putting positive visual work contribute events to the challenges and to knowledge of the form of appreciation. so the initiative by the us to do some issues because of all the ideas that anything to, to bring peace is the default of encouraging that is and that means a full size. gotcha. you must have some good discussion between america and, and, and, and the us, you know, um and you couldn't decisions. we all signing off on the street. if the south pulse, we will be back at the top of the very latest uh, associated the,

the russian states. never as tight as i'm one of the most sense community. most i'll send some of the same assistance. must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on russia, routing and supports the r t spoke neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. the question, did you say they replaced

the take a fresh look around is life kaleidoscopic? isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just because it shows you fractured images, presented as fast? can you see through their illusions, going underground can in february 2022, ukraine became the world's number one new story for ukraine,

new brand, new credit, a brand new crane question. troops invaded ukraine named loan perspective, ukraine suffering from russian english. and we seen the main stream media and the nightly numerous were citing clean developed scripts that essentially say exactly the same thing using the buzz words of this is a threat to our democracy. when you see 10 different channels a exactly that sentence, you know that it's the central intelligence agency script. the role of p r firms in ukraine, throughout europe and into united states really can be overstated. it's quite different than it wasn't previous decades where there used to be more of a cobra propaganda, government propaganda operations. now this is just celebrated as p r in helping ukraine and helping get their message out to us. that kind of is who's pulling the strings and who is profiting

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