or the conversation was very useful. we not only listened but also heard each other. and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position. a moment for the history books, russia and the us hold the bus, high level meeting in the years, posted by saudi arabia. the 2 sides spoke about a wide range of issues from normalization of biological ties to piece in your great diplomacy. ultimately, it's based on actions based on commitments that are kept on the american side. praises that talks as on to leap forward hand agrees that a permanent piece is the only acceptable and do the ukraine complex.

not have a table in but yet lot of me the landscape, but that didn't stop him from travelling to other countries in the region, including turkey, as well as making his own denied the united states. as discussing with russia the ultimatum that treatment set at the beginning of the full scale more, i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums at the most difficult moment. why are we likely to do it now? had also left out in the cold was the use. so a few european leaders have their own faults, where the youth wasn't jumping up on supplies and keeping up the fight. but some say the bottle is already lost. premium keep, keep the leaders of the great countries of europe miss the moment when they could have taken the initiative on the russian war. and ukraine. e. u institutions are not capable of an initiative. the

are now we're continuing our copies of the latest trends shaping the world right now. this is art international. i a michael portrait now after 4 and a half hours talks between the us to and ross and delegations of wrapped up in riyadh. and speaking of towards moscow, stop different might express positivity, had the a day's work to get loud, but also added that both countries will always be guided by the national interest. but they can do so while maintaining a respectful professional dialogue of good will do at the beginning of our conversation to see marco rubio particularly emphasize the fundamental importance of each country being guided by its national interest in international relations. and when we fully agreed with this, with these national interests of course, will not always coincide understood, but when they do not coincide with me, it is very important to regulate these discrepancies with, it's not to let them slide know because they're, you know, especially not to provoke a military or any other kind of confrontation,

who's got you so much? so the conversation was very useful and so we not only listened but also heard each other who, you know, and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position of the deal with the single has a very long day here. in saudi arabia, the talks lasted for 4 and a half hours, and quite a lot came out of them. i have to say that the story, the story is it made quite an effort to prevent any a speculation or leaks from happening. have as of it talks to still went on. so then we were basically bombarded by all these various statements after the thoughts ended coming from both sides. but i think the most important thing that happened today here in saudi arabia is that russia and the united states were able to make a very important 1st step towards normalizing their relations. they've agreed to create mechanisms to normalize the work of their diplomatic commissions regarding

the conflict in ukraine. and they agreed to put together high level teams on each side, which will work together to look, for example, in that in a sustainable solution which would be suitable to all sides. and they're also, i think it's a very important point that they're even now starting to look beyond the conflict in ukraine. because they're saying that they want to lay the foundation for future dream projects in investment and economy in all these projects which may emerge after the confidence in ukraine is done. judging by what preferred today from representatives of both sides. it was a serious and optimistic conversation, which do you talk for 4 and a half hours? yes. why not? and there was a very serious conversation on all the issues we wanted to touch upon is positive talk, be constructive. everybody, they are the to get to the right outcome solution based we,

we discussed it afterwards. we couldn't have imagined a better result after this, after the session was very, very solid. i just want to stress that it's just about a week ago. it was so hard to imagine something like this from happening, but then the phone conversation between president vladimir important and donald trump took place and now already were here in saudi arabia. we're looking at moscow in washington talking and most importantly, listening to each other like 4 minutes to elaborate said what was also made or being way of reaching its position about the conflict for 3 years. i don't think we necessarily need to recap, but it's always been very clear about what those red line saw, what it's not wanting to negotiate on. i'm so from washington is perspective, have we heard anything new from the trump administration about west some given take might be from said ministration approach to not only the conflict in ukraine,

but i guess to the relationship with russia is quite different from the previous administration. i think it also, it goes with the rest of the board in foreign ministers, words about listening to each other. you're set the real estate mark. rubio said that this is about dialogue. this isn't about monologue. and he also said that any diplomatic success is possible only with concessions made by all sides. i think the diplomacy ultimately is based on our actions based on commitments that are kept. so i think they came away today convinced that they are willing to begin to engage in a serious process to determine how and how quickly and through what mechanism can in and be brought to this war. whether we can ultimately reach that outcome will obviously depend on every side and this conflicts willingness to, to agree certain things. so i think it's important to have this meeting because we haven't really had much engagement with the russians for almost 3 years. and it's,

that's the table for future conversations. how that turns out will be up to the parties and their willingness not just to make commitments but the live by them that will be tested in the weeks to come. another important point to that was made by the russian delegation, and this is according to 4 minutes to serve. the elaborate off is that moscow finally was able to deliver it concerns and to the general stands on any theoretical deployments. also, any for peacekeeping contingents in ukraine, c a month, the topic of the potential deployment of some kind of armed forces for peacekeeping contingency, allegedly, after the conflict has already been resolved or an agreement has been reached, is of interest to the americans, depending on which countries are prepared to provide them the question is being addressed to the members of the european union. we explained during our talks today that we have noted very well that president trump, in several of his speeches, was the 1st western leader to say clearly that pulling ukraine into nato was one of the main reasons for what is happening. that this is one of the biggest mistakes of

joe biden in his administration, and that of trump for president at that time. he would not have allowed it to happen. in this regard, we explained to our colleagues today, the president, putin has repeatedly emphasized that the expansion of nato, the absorption of ukraine by the north atlantic alliance is a direct threat to the interest of the russian federation, a direct threat to our sovereignty. so we have explained today that the appearance of armed forces from the same nato countries, but under a foreign flag, under the flag of the european union, or under whose national flags does not change anything in this regard. this is, of course, unacceptable to us. russia is talking about protecting its national interests. it's a security and i think it's very important that this opportunity gave moscow the ability to deliver these concerns. and again, makes this message for washington. have you heard what i think in washington? i mean, i did had because just as loud ross was measured, but also positive. so it was the us delegation. they described it as

a big step for this meeting. i don't. is that any understanding of what could be, you know, in terms of concrete times here for the future outcome of today's event regarding the conflict in ukraine? it's pretty clear that both russia and the united states are on the same page, that it can become a frozen conference conflict. it can't be something temporary, it has to be a permanent end to the war. there's some to some underlying principles. this needs to be a permanent, into the war and not a temporary end, as we've seen in the past. we know just the practical reality is that there is going to be some discussion of territory and there is going to be a discussion of security guarantees. those are just yet fundamental basics uh that will, that will undergird and underlie any type of discussion. some very important words

there, and frankly, not many people expected to any sort of diplomatic breakthroughs or for the concept in ukraine to, to and here on this day in saudi arabia. but it's the 1st steps which are very important. i think it's very, it's, it's vital for the 2 countries to begin that way forward towards normalizing relations and towards the end of the conflict and ukraine and towards a future where the 2 could work together. now the power in for in pies between washington and moscow has been welcomed around the world. china and even my jury, he expressed hope that he could lead to a resolution of the conflict. the women lose you. we are glad to see all efforts that are conducive to peace, including the agreement on holding talks between the us and russia. china hopes that all relevant parties will play a constructive role in accumulating conditions for promoting

a political solution and realizing piece. it's a welcoming development. it's always good to see to lead as leaders of global powers meeting and talking because it provides the opportunity to resolve conflict and these tensions. this is something that i'm sure, every well meaning citizen of the planet would welcome that. let's cross live 2. i could shop advisory board member of the national law university incubation council . i also have let me double go to by the 2nd for my 2023 nigerian presidential oscar, and gentlemen, i'm glad to have both of you. join me right now. so let me start with you on kids, diplomats from both the russian and us delegation to express optimism after before our talks wrapped up while some up sub, as i expect in terms of 4 piece that we produce from such contacts between us and russia. all those i expect in terms for a new world order. what do you foresee?

what are your interpreting? it will be a hard yeah, separate shell state of the new administration after that from so i didn't get to clearly talking about the most people oddity. i think president trump is moving towards a settling multiple oddity and this looks very promising the way the docs are being conducted. and so i'll go and have you. um, i believe that these are the foundational steps where you can see going forward, us, russia, india, and china taking the leadership off of what setting but people oddity in all international bodies, one by one. so i will not be surprised if something that is finalized will with that and solve a be a i think at least solid revise between that are she and you bring it respect to of zealand skis absence because i do understand that uh uh, she has plain or uh, it's far more territory in ukraine is legitimate. and so is the case off. uh,

president trump asking for reparations for what the hell they did for the you put in administration. so it is obvious that some of the best in companies would be entrusted in a red, automated rows. and some of you know, some assets in ukraine as well as part of the settlement. all right, i double what concessions could ukraine and ross on one hand as well as potentially the e u. and the us need to make to reach an agreement for peace? well, i do want you to start by glitching, go shop, actually a pain putting in the dog. like let me put you where you said what to organize or to the best of my knowledge, the whole not on his idea for him diminish that could be 2 companies and a 2 players in 2004. because the whole thing that is happening to the was something that was predicted in that speech. and it is looking very much likely that it does

come in no duty on it. because most people will judge, ones that have been don't, you know, i can switch off for a very long time adult insulted. so what do we should expect? it's not to live done. i think what put it into a possible father's request for sure. it's gonna be out of by looking at our time, do we didn't tell you with our blind and deformed issue, and unfortunately it is the new sky. what, what's invited, when you tell them it showed up, said they all pushing for world the don't one piece, almost 600 members of you or me showing up in the continuation of your work. if you listen to this page yesterday, i've told you a new to me, this all the composition dad read. so is, would you like no, just a what's in that i turned on. i didn't get to get up because you knew me what i used to be like you to take like the, i don't want, you know, in here job on the disney is going to bring up on the computer security did succeed

under the professionals. i clear whatever was one of the blood on thursday, you'll have to put you in the house. awesome. but the tech has to do this is when to when, what does when, when problem on the middle is also just wanted to comment regarding that. so i don't think, you know, going to be nigeria, she was doing a solution and i do. but it's why me at all. but police reported me to stop is talking about is because this is something that people want me to say. but wherever we have locked into some security on the new one or the other, we guarantee you called participation. and then what type policies do. all right, and kids, let me come back to you. and now the india is a partner of both russia and the united states. what effects could the warming of ties between moscow in washington have a new daddy as well. um, india has always been at the forefront talking about bringing all the big problems together as a bridge between the east and the west. so i'm not at all surprised at the new

drunk by the ministration is walking down that spot. because we got to understand that none of the 4 big part was out in a position to run a uni butler would with the, with the, you know, with a single stick. so i believe that cooperation is a re forward and we are very keen on president for the ends visit that this year in india. and then we are going to see president trump visiting india as well in the same. yeah. so i think as a bridge between the east and the west, uh, india has a big boy to play in bringing all the big players together so as to see to it. that all the smaller nations also have some stake, some voice people that might do that for bodies. i think president trump is also keen on making adjustments. we had already hearing from them that they're going to make my, to got to the defense budget of that also making must have got to be a government expenditure. so all in all,

it looks like we are heading towards them. i people of was there all big bob was, are going to respect each other, spears up in fluids and digging the words together with peace and prosperity. about mutual respect is really important. now the, the saudi arabia host at these historic talks. what does this mean for the role of the global south in international politics? you know, it shows the, the global salt and what you see for what you're going to do a presentation on the has come to sit on the done to find the. so the is wanting to give me 5 the importance of the global assault, especially when you look at the situation in the cause of the situation even gone when presented. so daddy daddy fuels the issue over the location of people of tv. and so we've got uh, an indisputable brotherhood on twins, present to him, decided to choose the adf ready, and it was the usual cheese can help him. sort of able to go to convince the joe,

on how short the multiplan or dies enjoys on loans order. the way to present and the whole interest, and that's why i just have to let you know that i'm interested in the nigeria here . um, well, you know that you guys on the deluxe is the largest 13 and a half ago in terms of pollution on is a good way to africa. imagine as being one of these doing just a play of it when it comes to multiple editing. all foreign policy for he did a long time has been in supplement of i done what i meant, what is supposed to offer collaboration. so this has to be what you did just kind of feeling in the country. well, by now everyone wants to see the outcome of this new position comes to locked into from security that you won't allow for it got to come out of your voice to sit down and do the one. i'm just going to go with a new calling visual web. i don't want to live to somebody on bundles i respected because like when you want. all right, jensen, man,

thank you so much. i will go to by the 2nd for my 2023. my jury and presidential last year, i thank you and i'll get you all have boss, really, board member all the good. you're a national university innovation consul. thank you so much all for your insights issue. great. thank you. thank you. my been moving on now a lot of these, the last key had been planning is owned visit to saudi arabia this week. but at the last minute he announced that the trip has been postponed. the atlanta symbolist of we weren't invited to the russian american meeting and saudi arabia. it was a surprise for us, but honestly, i don't care. i care about our partners and we are absolutely honest and open mind . that's why i'm not going to saudi arabia. we contacted our partners in saudi arabia and agreed that i'll be there on an official visit. march 10th. there was a sense of resentment in his voice when he said that he won't expect to meet with the us delegation in care of suggesting that he will not go out of his way to

a great deal discussed with turkish president or the one we understand that the 2, a discussed a number of items on the agenda, of course, 1st and foremost of the mediation role that church has been undertaking. this is a significant point that we'll get into in a little bit, but also the reforming of ukraine's territory integrity. certain concerns and guarantees that savanski expects and returns. but more probably you of course, bilateral relations, humanitarian efforts, but please talk to the security guarantees as well as the saudi arabia talks have been on the agenda. we understand that currently speaking, the church president has quite vocal invoke visible quite vocal about on campus position and mediating these talks. not just now, but of course the dating back to 2022. there was no mention of this made by so then ski himself and despite the developments and of course the saudi arabia, he took the time to travel to turkey and meet with president are to want. and we understand that until his current position suggests that the prospects of peace are, of course more significant and more likely than ever. listen to him, so it shouldn't cause the drums to approach to end the work quickly. and via

negotiations coincides with the policy that turkey has been following for the last 3 years. at the same time, i would like to say that the assembled negotiations are the most appropriate platform and an important reference point for the sides. when the active diplomacy is taken into account russia, ukraine and the united states will continue to work together on cars, on a position, not just of course media between ukraine or rochelle, or even delegate with the united states, but to serve as an important place since it has an important position in ensuring that the prospects of future talks may be held. and we understand that the states back to an initiative that was started in 2022 to key. it has been trying to broke up a strong since been involved in a peer w exchanges to we sold as tulips in the spring of $2022.00 in a simple do things, but it has a real so now up being a platform for peace. me so we can expect very similar steps along the way,

but we understand that truck is current position also suggests that ukraine, of course, or all the parties involved and do play a ball. and we understand that most cars position, even in 2022 when the assembled piece talks were being held, held a very vocal, but open position to discussing the differences are grievances with ukraine. as part of the stumble piece talks, a resolution was drafted. an agreement was drafted, nobody had yet signed the dotted line, but the draft was there and it appeared that moscow was interested to have was quite happy with what was there on paper. however, it appears that the west persuaded you claim from walking away from that negotiating table. people that are close to 0 on season or circle have come on the record suggesting that sparse johnson did actually you can essentially persuade, is that ask you to continue fighting and that's where the was happening. also shines through is because of the was that mean is not just to what has happened, but what is happening at this given point because so that you did mention time and time again. that is, western allies are partners,

have not spoken about providing ukraine with nato membership. now we understand this is russia's red line. it is one of the biggest talking points as to when we discussed the prospect of any piece talks that you would crank, cannot and must not join nature as it appears that since on. so you have something else in mind, but also did criticizes us partners. criticize a european union and criticize nato as to their approach and not providing so and see with what she wants as opposed to what you bring really needs. and we understood the end of that is was that meant, of course, does not just limited self there. that is a great deal numbers that mentioned the talks and saudi arabia, referring to any proposal that comes out of the us much, that talks hasn't ultimatum or was it me much in the, the united states is discussing with russia the ultimatum that's hooton's set at the beginning of the full scale war, again, about ukraine without ukraine to levels. i wonder if we didn't accept such a ultimatums at the most difficult moment. why are we likely to do it now? able at this given point, at the very least, it appears russia is in

a position where it is spoken of willing that russia will be brought back into the fold. and that it will take a different approach that it will work with its regional partners that will work with out of your way to be intricate to ensure that all the parties that are currently interested in which is the supplement piece to make it happen. but of course, there's a great deal of a sudden from savanski, especially taken to consideration that he did not know that the us delegation would be meeting with it's russian counterparts and expects the us to make its way to, to have to the doorsteps of the landscape. the knew that that's how russia, as far as ministry spokeswoman has described, the use vision for how the crate and conflict should end the medium we see in nervous if not panic, reaction from the west of the russian american contacts. it's surprising this reaction from the west regarding russian american interactions, especially considering that americans are part of the same west hopkins as be well, apparently it can be high level of russian american contacts are causing real

hysteria among your atlantic results. we're witnessing what seems to be an unprecedented phenomenon, international relations, the imposition of their own participation in the negotiation process. you see this involves some british and you friends of the zalinski cru, miller shame, which demonstrates inability to move beyond its own primitive mindset of producing a hybrid war with our country until the last ukrainian look again at european commissioner for defense under eskoville is what tirelessly insist that a just world is impossible without increasing your prince power. but take a look at the ukraine. i'm addressing that you representatives. now, what have you done to that country? look at the people, the citizens of this nation. what kind of power are you trying to increase each door? now while in riyadh talk was focused on resolution cooperation and dialogue. but over in the you, the told is different with the commission chief also bundle. ready and taking to ramp up on supplies to tea a while the hunger ran from minutes to side of the eu has long missed itself.

opportunity to play in a role in restoring peace, financially and militarily, europe has brought more to the table than anyone else. and we will step up, we want to partner with a us to deliver a just and less than piece where you crane. now is a critical moments. you know, if you keep the leaders of the great countries of europe, missed the moment when they could have taken the initiative on the russian war in ukraine. you institutions are not capable of an initiative. the council and the commission are composed of bureaucrats. there is no innovation at all that comes from. there is the daily grind and we know political vision or leadership. it's been a while, a number of new heads of states gathered in paris for an emergency meeting. on monday, they discussed how to deal with the new administration in washington. the leaders hinted that they're not interested in being involved in the complex resolution, but more than happy to increase their military support for ukraine. the over to

r t corresponding charlotte, the ben sky. european lead is seem to be at low get heads out in reason of what to do next and the way feature not being able to come up with any concrete plans, despite the fact they met at that emergency meeting here in paris, it was an old european lead is no, it was just a select few. the leaders of countries like poland, france, germany, and also the u. k. being invited to loan to that. now the case prime minister kit selma, putting together plans to send peacekeeping troops to ukraine. that didn't go down. well, with everyone, but here's what style mode would like to do. your must play its role. i'm prepared to consider committing purchased forces on the ground,

alongside up as if there was a loss to increase the agreement. but the must be a us box stop. because a us security guard said, this is the only way to effectively deter russia from attack. can you create a good but case tell me say would god bless europe always. he's going to need the us as a back stop. well too many cooks, boy the broth. that's what we heard from the us. special and boy keys kellogg. and he might be white because they couldn't come up with a plan that they could all agree on. we have the usual folks like president backorder holding not meetings saying you needs to spend more money on defense stuff. also what we heard from this level of delay in the european commission president saying peace through strength. what she means is we need to keep building

more weapons and buying more weapons. and that, of course, is music to the ease of defense contract is a gym and he's law just defends contract to saying actually this is the entire reason why you repeatedly does, haven't been invited to that summit, the big boys summit and read between russia and the us, and that's because they have and funded that defense for decades. now, if you don't invest, if you're not strong, they handle you like kids. if parents have dinner, the kids have to sit at another table. the us is negotiating with russia and no european is at the table. it has become very clear that the europeans, all the kids problems for minnesota all. so at the best thing that at some point you will have to send troops, team crane at possibly off to being requested by the united states to do that. and he was like, well,

that's something we will need to acquiesce to. nature's chief saying europe is willing to step up to the plate, but again, new details and lots. the points. new details will agree. those in not meeting in paris inside was need a stool that this was the gym and chancellor, all of schultz who said it is not the time to be discussing the future of ukraine with that ukraine. this is furnished for food and it is completely premature. and completely the wrong time to have this discussion. now, i'm even a little irritated by these debates. i have to say people are talking here about possible variance of outcomes over the heads of ukraine, just about the outcome of peace talks that have not taken place. and with which ukraine has not said yes and has not sat at the table. it seems that you are paying the dues of flaming round, almost like headless chickens. after the announcements that we've been saying

coming out from the white tests and you.