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the, the, the, the conversation was very useful. we not only listen, but also heard each other. and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position. russia and the us hold the plus high level meeting in years, touching on everything from improving ties to the war, reading you freight diplomacy. ultimately, it's based on actions based on commitments that are kept at the us delegation phases, that talks as a huge leap for the sake of the department in peace is the only acceptable the ends to but you create uncomfort awhile key of itself wasn't that the table
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lie to me, the last key was on his own diplomatic to this time talking down in turkey and attempting to drum up support the united states as discussing with russia the ultimatum that couldn't set at the beginning of the full scale war. i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums that the most difficult moment. why are we likely to do it now? the while you're watching r t international reaching you live for mine use center with moscow? i have mike called for check. right now, after 4 and a half hours talks between us and the russian delegations of wrapped up in regard speaking of towards moscow's top to provide the express to positivity day's work. so to get a lot of room added, that both countries will always be guided by the a national interest, but they can do so while maintaining a respectful and professional dialog to go to deals at the beginning of our
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conversation. this is marco rubio particularly emphasized the fundamental importance of each country being guided by its national interest in international relations. and then we fully agreed with this with the these national interest of course, will not always coincide and stuff. but when they do not coincide, i mean it is very important to regulate these discrepancies. it's not to let them slide know for that, and especially not to provoke a military or any other kind of confrontation. goodness, so much. so the conversation was very useful, impressive. we not only listened but also heard each other, who will, and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position though they do. let's think it was a very long day here in saudi arabia. the talks last, it's $44.00 and a half hours and quite a lot came out of them. i have to say that the story, the story is made quite an efforts to prevent any speculation or leaks from happening. have as of it talks to still went on. so then we were basically
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bombarded by all these various statements after the talk saying that coming from both sides. but i think the most important thing that happened today here in saudi arabia is that russia and the united states were able to make a very important 1st step towards normalizing their relations. they've agreed to create mechanisms to normalize the work of their diplomatic commissions regarding the conflict in ukraine. they agreed to put together high level teams on each side, which will work together to look for a diplomatic, sustainable solution which would be suitable to all sides. and they're also, i think it's a very important point that they're even now starting to look beyond the conflict in ukraine because they're saying that they want to lay the foundation for future dream projects in investment and economy. in all these projects, which me emerge after the constitution,
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ukraine is done judging by what preferred today from representatives of both sides . it was a serious and optimistic conversation which do you talk for 4 and a half hours of if someone yes, why not? and there was a very serious conversation on all the issues we wanted to touch upon to them. is this positive? be constructive. everybody, they are the to get to the right outcome solution based we, we discussed it afterwards. we couldn't have imagined a better result after this after the session. it was very, very solid. i just wanna stress that it's just about a week ago. it was so hard to imagine something like this from happening. but then the phone conversation between president vladimir put and then donald trump took place and now already were here in saudi arabia. we're looking at moscow in washington talking and most importantly, listening to each other like 4 minutes to elaborate. the said,
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well boss has also been way of tracing its position about the conflict for 3 years . i don't think we necessarily need to recap, but it's always been very clear about what those red line solve, what it's not wanting to negotiate on. i'm so from washington is perspective, have we heard anything new from the trump administration about what some given take might be from. so i've ministration approach to not only the conflict in ukraine, but i guess to the relationship with russia is quite different from the previous administration. i think it also, it goes with the rest of the board in foreign ministers, words about listening to each other us at the real estate, mark. rubio said that this is about dialogue. this isn't about monologue. and he also said that any diplomatic success is possible only with concessions made by all sides. i think diplomacy ultimately is based on our actions based on commitments that are kept. so i think they came away today convinced that they are willing to
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begin to engage in a serious process to determine how and how quickly and through what mechanism can in and be brought to this war. where the we can ultimately reach that outcome will obviously depend on every side and this conflicts willingness to, to agree to certain things. so, um, i think it's important to have this meeting because we haven't really had much engagement with the russians for almost 3 years. and it's, that's the table for future conversations. how that turns out will be up to the parties and their willingness not just to make commitments but to live by them that will be tested in the weeks to come. another important point to that was made by the russian delegation, and this is according to foreign minister. sergio laboratory is at moscow finally was able to deliver its concerns and to the general stands on any theoretic deployments. also, any for un peacekeeping contingents in ukraine see a month the topic of the potential deployment of some kind of armed forces for
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peacekeeping contingency, allegedly, after the conflict has already been resolved or an agreement has been reached, is of interest to the americans, depending on which countries are prepared to provide them. the question is being addressed to the members of the european union. we explained during our talks today that we have noted very well that president trump and several of his speeches was the 1st western leader to say clearly that pulling ukraine into nato was one of the main reasons for what is happening. that this is one of the biggest mistakes of joe biden and his administration, and that of trump for president at that time. he would not have allowed it to happen. so in this regard, we explained to our colleagues today, the president, putin has repeatedly emphasized that the expansion of nato, the absorption of ukraine by the north atlantic alliance is a direct threat to the interest of the russian federation. a direct threat to our sovereignty. we have explained today that the appearance of armed forces from the same nato countries, but under a foreign flag, under the flag of the european union, or under whose national flags does not change anything in this regard. this is,
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of course, unacceptable to us. russia is talking about protecting its national interests. it's a security and i think it's very important that this opportunity gave moscow the ability to deliver these concerns. and again, makes this message for washington to be heard. what i think. and washington definitely did say it because just as loud for off was measured, but also positive. so what's the us delegation they described as a big step for this meeting? i don't. is that any understanding of what could be, you know, in terms of concrete times here for the future outcome of today's event regarding the conflict in ukraine? it's pretty clear that both russia and the united states are on the same page, that it can become a frozen conference concept. it can be something temporary, it has to be a permanent end to the war. there are some the, some underlying principles. this needs to be a permanent,
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into the war and not a temporary and as we've seen in the past, we know just the practical reality is that there is going to be some discussion of territory. and there's going to be a discussion of security guarantees. those are just yet fundamental basics uh that will, that will undergird and underlie any type of discussion. some very important words there, and frankly, not many people expected to any sort of diplomatic breakthroughs or for the concept in ukraine to, to and here on this day in saudi arabia. but it's the 1st steps which are very important. i think it's very, it's, it's vital for the 2 countries to begin that way forward towards normalizing relations and towards the end of the conflict and ukraine and towards a future where the 2 could work together. well let's get some
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thoughts and all of these now and speak to pink floyd co founder and peace activist rojo. what's as roger, i'm glad to have you join me now. i'm very glad to be here. i've just been listening to a program. great. i just thought it is, but oh, okay, so let's get straight to the question. now. the focus on the 12th and we, i know we've had positive remarks from both the us and ross and delegations. what are your thoughts? are you optimistic as well? what i was listening very closely to the tentative voice. i couldn't see any pictures. so as having to figure out what was somebody translating them, what was but listening to the tons of their voices. as you probably know, i spoke to the security council yesterday, which went very well and i've had a lot of great response to what i have to say. well, i had to say really, is that that to the fact that mr. trump and mr. preaching had spoken together on
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the telephone a couple of days ago, which encouraging, and that it was definitely a move in the right direction from what i've heard on your program just now. it sounds as if the talks in saudi arabia this morning, which went on for 4 and a half hours has gone very well. and from listening to the tone of voice of the people describing what happened. it sounds as if it is a move in the right direction and i'm keeping my fingers firmly crossed that that will be a resolution to, to what is, let's be honest about it, a divided nation. ukraine is a divided nation. i said that he has to do to discourage accounts, so i did is to resolve those to new depressions in ukrainian society. the rest of us need to come together to help them to resolve the problems so that they
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can move forward in a peaceful world. now, the russian delegation has closed out the lack of communication on the bite and the ministration. do we expect this new era how russia us relations to be more productive going forward? is nothing really. i mean, this has been going on since 1998 since the breaking of the promises by james baker to president gorbachev. the nato would not move uh, one inch be on the eastern board is a big united germany that so now the started, we could talk about that for us, but that's the fast the button administration was just continuing the basic american policies since the beginning of the ninety's and the resistance to the idea that the russian federation needed sets and little conditions of security for, for its cell phone,
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for the rest of eastern europe. so nothing's really not well, it has changed bites and was not talking to poach it. trump is talking to booting, that is a huge step in the right direction. as i said earlier, i'm keeping my fingers crossed. let's see what they have to say one to one another tomorrow and the day off from the day after. as they get you into the details of these talks about the future of you. great. all right, of course we were listening to your address to the un security council meeting yesterday. you were absolutely spot on from understanding the routes of these issues. now regarding the korean conflict, so it's 10 years since that means the agreements were adopted the we all know what happened to the man, the failure of the deal was the subject of yesterday's united nations security council meeting requested by russia. do you expect the west to accept? it's rolled in jupiter rising the piece?
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i'm sorry. i didn't understand you quite. how do i expect the west? what do you mean by that? yeah. what, what, what, what i'm saying is that, do you, do you expect the west to agree to all what went down the jump, a dicing the means agreement. well, when you say the west, by and large, at least over the last 25 since the 2nd. well, by the west we made in the us and par because let us be honest, we are repaired and all the european states a bowl basically become vessel states attached to. i'm gonna say print strings, but mamma is the united states of america. and we do is we had told a, we've seen that broadly of the whole of europe. so there is no united your opinion, but will basically trump has told your up in no uncertain terms that he's not interested in. well, any of them have to say he's still interested in paying for nato,
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and the and most of nights is on sunday middle, so there is a, there is a, there's a new is the parent. all right? or if you like, but it's not, it's not power. no, there's a new in europe that they're about to be dropped by the united states of america and left to their own devices. how they didn't notice this when the united states blew up the node stream pipelines supplying cheap russian gas to germany. and they said nothing about it and still happens as far as i can tell. no whisper complaint even from the german government, which just shows how much on the control of the us and pie they have been. so we wait with baited breath to see how these stokes and saudi arabia are on the phone and to see as well. we will be looking very closely to see how your time develop in the off the math that this schism between the us and
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and the rest of them if you see what i mean. europe has been sidelined by what, by mr. trump coming into the white house as far as i can see, i'm always ready to be completely wrong about everything. but we just have to wait and see by goodness they're talking to one another, missed the boots and i missed the drops and all the people on the very on the various sides of the argument in the detailed conversations that have to come. if we can prevent the death of one more russian, one more, your brain in overture from this point forward, we will have done all the jobs that she is. what we are all budgeting for. maybe you will be able to build itself into a safe place where you've gradients can live in peace. as we know, the problem with maintenance was maybe stepping beyond my rebates. here was that
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they post may done government no elected democratic day. we have to say, i didn't want the ministry agreements. i a, they had a vision of ukraine, went by they, those factions, the right wing factions who with the, the influence in the new government, in, in ships wanted to absolutely control the whole look ukraine and all the people in it. um, taking no accounts of the fact that that would great divisions in that aspect. lee and politically and religious. so there's a because this is an absolute responsibility of government to any ways that you have to view the whole population. and you have to take care of the basic human rights of all of your citizens, irrespective of whether they agree with you politic a or religious. they are, in other words, as we know that couple months in 2014 in c,
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it did not take the account of the human, civil and religious rights of the people living in the dumbass. i won't go on because we know all of this, but people in the west don't know this. they were told that it was an unprovoked invasion by russia written on 24th february g. and that's the end of the story. so i, so this is a huge day that they've been speaking to one another in saudi arabia. i can take a deep breath, i get that bit of me, that bit of my interest in human rights can relax. now the rest of it and some of it is more dangerous and more gods that for instance, don't get me started. i actually set that in the set to the security. get done. get me started. because if i could, i would digress. because what we're witnessing in gaza is the most dangerous full
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crime that any of us my age and young guy i've witnessed in our lives. so thank you, raj, i sadly let, let's, but the point is the issue we can gather. it's totally a different thing as it is, and it's a great concern to lots of the well. but, but let's come back to this issue in the yard. both the us and russian officials have said the concessions are required by all sides. about what concessions do you think the 2 sides my prepared now be prepared to offer. understood, i didn't say that as well as you, we were both listening to the same news program. and when i had that guy come, well that is a very good question. can i officer it? no, of course icon. i could make things up. i could use my imagination. i could try and guess what they're going to do. but at the end of the day, i couldn't,
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i could guess what i think is going to happen at the end. but is something the wise man or over the world have been saying is the only way to resolve the issues. and we're trying to, obviously, a, so russia to continue to advance and then say you're trying to become russian is nonsense. it's not going to happen. also for o russian troops to withdraw him to the 1914 voters is not going to happen. it's support. i said, what has to happen, and this is the only important thing is that the basic human civil, political, and religious rights of the people a few crane need to be obsessed in the venue agreement that is made between the 2 major factors in this role that has been going on that is destroying your credit and will continue to so that, that's, that's, that's always my platform is human rights. december, the 10th paris, 1948,
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the universal declaration of human rights. the was in the ukraine started because the human rights of the people in the east and ukraine and the don't boss in the band skin tone. that's good to some extent kids and then separate bags. yeah. as well. what being infringed by the central government, and yet they were being murdered. and that is the beginning of the war, right? that. and it was slow in coming. it took from 2000 and well from way to full of that, but from 2014 until 2020 to develop into a full scale war. it's been stopped. boy, maybe it hasn't been stopped. it's still going on today and it will go into tomorrow. but we will follow these tools in saudi arabia, with a fingers crossed her sitting on miles desperate that they stopped the fighting
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tomorrow. and they continued being grown up and they continued have prop conversations and they don't get into a head, but you can contest that continues to missouri and a lot of people in ukraine and in russia who are having to fight this broke single fingers suddenly and positively crossed not, let's talk about zalinski. that's all about the landscape. here's busy building around telling everyone that they come to know agreement on ukraine without you, craig. so will you be allowed up on the table? what do you say, what, what do you interpret to as well the 8 since the middle school agreement savings now hasn't been allowed on the tire police always just been tell family by the west to them parts a shot is miles and then go on poor and can't afford to, to the front line, which is what he has done. these just don't exactly as he's been. so my suspicion
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is that he's been busy, you know, looking at flight schedules cause he is going to do a run a is just a question of when in my view he's with the landscape. i think we cannot accept is completely irrelevant. he has, it is not been consulted by the americans, and he is not being consulted by the russians. and so they are the ones having the conversation in saudi arabia that is so important. so poor must it savanski inevitably h as because my suggestion to him would be me don't even think about interfering because they don't want that they're not. but if they were interested in what he had to say, he believed he would be that i could be wrong again. i may be completely wrong and doing him a great. this is, it may be that he is an important voice, but he never is always seemed like a time a gloves profit doing is each toe and that's why suspect 2 years. and, and
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a lot of man, if i'm wrong, i apologize too. i don't make what made mean to my ad hominem attacks, but to an outside my. that's what it looks like. you are completely spot on the thank you so much. roger ward has been floyd, co founder on the civil peace activists. it just all is nice to have you on. thank you. thanks going to pleasure, right. ok. and talking about a lot of me, zaleski has been planning, is old visit to saudi arabia this week. but as the last minutes, he announced that the trip has been bestowed, the atlanta sublist of we weren't invited to the russian american meeting in saudi arabia. it was a surprise for us, but honestly, i don't care. i care about our partners and we are absolutely honest and open mind . that's why i'm not going to saudi arabia. we contacted our partners in saudi arabia and agreed that i'll be there on an official visit, march 10th. there was
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a sense of them is that much in his voice when he said that he will expect to meet with the us delegation in care of suggesting that he will not go out of his way to a great deal discussed with turkish president or the one we understand that the 2 discussed a number of items on the agenda, of course, 1st and foremost of the mediation role that church has been undertaking. this is a significant point that we'll get into in a little bit, but also the reaffirming of ukraine's territory integrity, certain concerns and guarantees that savanski expects and returns. but more broadly, you, of course, bilateral relations, humanitarian efforts, but peace talks and security guarantees, as well as the saudi arabia talks have been on the agenda. we understand that currently speaking, the church president has quite vocal a book that's been quite vocal about on canvas position and mediating these talks. not just now, but of course the dating back to 2022. there was no mention of this made by so then ski himself and despite the developments and of course the saudi arabia, he took the time to travel to turkey and meet with president r to one. and we understand that until his current position suggests that the
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prospects of peace are, of course, more significant and more likely than ever. let's listen to him. so it shouldn't cause the drums to approach to end the work quickly. and via negotiations coincides with the policy that turkey has been following for the last 3 years. at the same time, i would like to say that the assembled negotiations are the most appropriate platform and an important reference point for the sides. with the active diplomacy is taken into account russia, ukraine and the united states will continue to work together, get into that uncle was in a position not just of course, mediate between ukraine or rochelle, or even delegate with the united states. but to serve as an important place since it has an important position in ensuring that the prospects of future talks may be held. and we understand that the states back to an initiative that was started in 2022 to key. it has been trying to broke up based on since being involved in a peer w exchanges to we sold as tulips in the spring of $2022.00 in
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a simple do things. but to kit has a real so now up being a platform for peace me so we can expect very similar steps along the way, but we understand that truck is current position also suggests that ukraine, of course, or all the parties involved and do play ball and we understand that most cars position, even in 2022 when the stumble piece talks were being held, held a very vocal, but open position to discussing the differences are grievances with ukraine. as part of the stumble piece talks, a resolution was drafted, an agreement was drafted. nobody had yet signed the dotted line. but the draft was there and it appeared that moscow was interested to have was quite happy with what was there on paper. however, it appears that the west persuaded you claim from walking away from that negotiating table. people that are close to 0 and sees inner circle have come on the record, suggesting that sparse drops into it. actually, you can essentially persuade, is that ask you to continue fighting? that's where the was happening. also shines through is because of the was that mean
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is not just to what has happened, but what is happening at this given point because, so that's, you did mention time and time again. that is, western allies are partners, have not spoken about providing ukraine with nato membership. now we understand this is russia's red line. it is one of the biggest talking points as to when we discussed the prospect of any piece talks that you refrain, cannot and must not join nature as it appears that since alaska has something else in mind, but also did criticizes us partners, criticize a european union and criticize nato as to their approach and not providing so and see with what she wants, as opposed to what you claim really needs. and we understood the end of that is that meant of course, does not just limited self there. that is a great deal numbers that mentioned the talks and saudi arabia, referring to any proposal that comes out of the us, which it talks hasn't ultimatum. or does it mean much in the, the united states as discussing with russia the ultimatum that's hooton's set at the beginning of the full scale war? again, about ukraine without ukraine levels. i wonder if we didn't accept such alt tomatoes
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at the most difficult moment. why are we likely to do it now? and below, at this given point, at the very least, it appears russia is in a position where it is open and willing that russia will be brought back into the fold. and that it will take a different approach that it will work with its regional partners that will work with out of uribe and target to ensure that all the parties that are currently interested in which is the supplement piece to make it happen. but of course, there's a great deal of a sudden from savanski, especially taken to consideration that he did not know that the us delegation would be meeting with it's russian counterparts and expects the us to make its way to, to have to the doorsteps of the landscape. not don't list at the milly at newspaper kentucky hockey old shall believe that the last kid wouldn't be able to manipulate at all. gone like he does with western lead is a mrs. ellen ski himself is very important to stick young man and they gave me she can take advantage of anything he can't do. she would like to
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use an invite to be of interest to the he is not. if you ask me a personal opinion on my personal opinion, that he is not that good states, man, that's a good politician. not a very good a minute, treat me. these are office country and things. so he is trying to be to play as he used to do when he was an actor. to play is the presidents all. i do that however it, he should know, avalon best or dentist you can not use the add on is a way is afford anything but the room she is trying to get his help. i stay with our team to national for all the latest from around the world. see you again by now the.
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