the, the, the conversation was very useful. we not only listened but also heard each other. and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position. russia and the us hold the 1st high level meeting and he is touching on everything from improving ties to the warming. ukraine. diplomacy ultimately is based on actions based on commitments that are kept on the us delegation praises the talks as a huge leap for the sake of, of the permanent piece is the only acceptable end to the ukraine conflict. and while key of itself wasn't that the tools, a lot of them is the last key was on his own diplomatic to this time talking,

doubting turkey and attempting to drum up support the united states. as discussing with russia the ultimatum that proved and set at the beginning of the full scale more, i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums at the most difficult moments. why are we likely to do with now? the spell your watching are the international reaching you from the russian capital i a michael watching smiley and what, where a lot, mom talks high level delegations from russia and the united states have set down on the same table for the 1st time in more than 3 years, moscow is top different mind to describe the math on the 4 hour sessions as a positive step forward to go to deals at the beginning of our conversation to see marco rubio particularly emphasized the fundamental importance of each country being guided by its national interest. in international relations and when we fully

agreed with this system, these national interests of course, will not always coincide and stuff, but when they do not coincide with me, it is very important to regulate these discrepancies so that, so not to let them slide know for the need especially not to provoke a military who we do or any other kind of confrontation. we'll schedule so much. so the conversation was very useful on. so we not only listened but also hurt each other because you know, and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position of the deal. it's because of very a long day i hear and saudi arabia, the talks plastic for 4 and a half hours and quite a lot came out of them. i have to say that the story, the story is it made quite an effort to prevent any speculation or leaks from happening have as of the talks to still went on. so then we were basically bombarded by all these various statements after the thoughts ended coming from both

sides. but i think the most important thing that happened today here in saudi arabia is that russia and the united states were able to make a very important 1st step towards normalizing their relations. they've agreed to create mechanisms to normalize the work of their diplomatic missions regarding the conflict in ukraine. and they agreed to put together high level teams on each side, which will work together to look for a diplomatic, sustainable solution which would be suitable to all sides. and they're also, i think it's a very important point that they're even now starting to look beyond the conflict in ukraine. because they're saying that they want to lay the foundation for future dream projects in investments and economy. in all these projects which may emerge after the constitution, ukraine is done judging by what preferred today from representatives of both sides . it was a serious and optimistic conversation which they just do talk for 4 and

a half hours. that's the one. yes. why not? and there was a very serious conversation on all the issues we wanted to touch upon to them. is this positive? be constructive. everybody, they are the to get to the right outcome solution based we, we discussed it afterwards. we couldn't have imagined a better result. and after this, after the session, it was very, very solid. i just want to stress that it's just about a week ago. it was so hard to imagine something like this from happening. but then the phone conversation between presidents let them important. then donald trump took place and now old lady were here in saudi arabia. we're looking at moscow in washington talking and most importantly, listening to each other like 4 minutes to elaborate said well, was also made or being way of tracing its position about the conflict for 3 years. i don't think we necessarily need to recap,

but it's always been very clear about what those red line saw, what it's not wanting to negotiate on. i'm so from washington is perspective, have we heard anything new from the trumpet ministration, about what some given take might be from said ministration approach to not only the conflict in ukraine, but i guess to the relationship with russia is quite different from the previous administration. i think it also echo is with the rest of the board in foreign ministers, words about listening to each other, your secretary of state, mark rubio said that this is about dialogue. this isn't about monologue. and he also said that any diplomatic success is possible only with concessions made by all sides. i think diplomacy ultimately is based on the actions based on commitments that are kept. so i think they came away today convinced that they are willing to begin to engage in a serious process to determine how and how quickly and through what mechanism can

in and be brought to this war. whether we can ultimately reach that outcome. well, obviously depend on every side and it's conflicts willingness to, to agree to certain things. so, um, i think it's important to have this meeting because we haven't really had much engagement with the russians for almost 3 years. and it's, that's the table for future conversations. how that turns out will be up to the parties and their willingness not just to make commitments, but to live by them. uh, that will be tested in the weeks to come. another important point to that was made by the russian delegation and this is according to foreign minister sergio level, is that moscow finally was able to deliver its concerns and the general stance on any, theoretically deployments. also, any for un peacekeeping contingents in ukraine see a month the topic of the potential deployment of some kind of armed forces for peacekeeping contingency, allegedly, after the conflict has already been resolved or an agreement has been reached, is of interest to the americans of depending on which countries are prepared to

provide them? the question is being addressed to the members of the european union. we explain during our talks today that we have noted very well that president trump and several of his speeches was the 1st western leader to say clearly that pulling ukraine into nato was one of the main reasons for what is happening is that this is one of the biggest mistakes of joe biden and his administration, and that of trump for president at that time, he would not have allowed it to happen. so in this regard, we explained to our colleagues today, the president, putin has repeatedly emphasized that the expansion of nato, the absorption of ukraine by the north atlantic alliance is a direct threat to the interest of the russian federation, a direct threat to our sovereignty. so we have explained today that the appearance of armed forces from the same nato countries, but under a foreign flag, under the flag of the european union or under boost and national flags does not change anything in this regard. this is of course, an acceptable to us. so russia is talking about protecting its national interests. it's a security and i think it's very important that this opportunity gave moscow the

ability to deliver these concerns. and again, makes this message for washington to be heard. what i think and washington definitely did say it because just as loud for off was measured, but also positive. uh sir, what's the us delegation they described as a big step for this meeting? i don't. is that any of the standing as of what could be, you know, in terms of concrete times here for the future outcome of today's event regarding the conflict in ukraine. it's pretty clear that both russia and the united states are on the same page, that it can become a frozen conference concept. it can be something temporary, it has to be a permanent end to the war. there are some the, some underlying principles. this needs to be a permanent, into the war and not a temporary and as we've seen in the past, we know just the practical reality is that there is going to be some discussion of

territory. and there's going to be a discussion of security guarantees. those are just yet fundamental basics uh that will, that will undergird and underlie any type of discussion. some very important words there, and frankly, not many people expected to any sort of diplomatic breakthroughs or for the concept in ukraine to, to and here on this day in saudi arabia. but it's the 1st steps which are very important. i think it's very, it's, it's vital for the 2 countries to begin that way forward towards normalizing relations and towards the end of the conflict in ukraine and towards a future where the 2 could work together. so less cross live to co director of international action center. south loan does. so

i'm glad to have you join me now. so it's the 1st time the us and russia have sought face to face like this for years about how domestic should we be feeding, right. now about peace around the world. well, i think we should always be cautious that when it involves us entry, elizabeth, it's not about peace. they are looking for a new relationship because their efforts of the most expansion of nato, as a weapon against russia failed. the ukraine project absolute failure. so where did they go from here? as the world has changed and moved on. and russia has not only survived that has developed many new trading financial political relations. so they did not crumble as was expected, as was planned for all the us thing tanks for years were how to over extend an

unbalanced russian it didn't happen. so now they're back at the table discussing a new relationship. how can they use, how can they drive a wedge between russia and try and how can they do something destructive to the bricks relationship? so that's really what they're interested in doing. but i do think that the russian leaders are not fools, they've learned some lessons from the ukraine war and from previous us policies. so it's important that there's conversation going on, but uh, where it will lead. we know that trump has walked away again and again from past initiatives during his last administration called for ending sanctions on russia. at that time. he didn't do it. he called for this on them in the nuclear ization didn't happen. he called for an end to, to nato, didn't do what he gave them more arms into it became one of the largest militaries

in the world. so we'll see where this is going. i think we should be cautious on us . aims that they're trying to re establish a new relationship, and i do think they'll be some pretty skilled go creating, going on is to just what that means for life. not the us big department announced that the 2 top different minds, michael rubio and say to get lobrado agreed in re add the create the console piece . a mechanism to eliminate, to give attendance in the relations between the congress. not what kind of erie times might they be talking about from your assessment? well, the main us irritant alex, to the whole world. it's not just a russia is that us empire is determined to dominate lou the world for the benefit of a handful of billionaires. and that is not just that you're attend, it's a danger the russian, your attempt is that they don't want to be taken over. they are asserting their own

security for their national interest for their sovereignty. and that is, and they're pretty skilled at being able to assert their interest. they have past experience, as i say with the u. s. can they overcome these irritants of the drive to dominate the world, which u. s. is, is determined to do and to any where they can, the only way they can do it. they can no longer do it industrially, it can no longer do it with technology is far out run. they can only do it by spreading chaos. and that is their plan and country after country. and it's a, it's a real irritant to hold the spot, today's meeting thing, and the positive words, both sides, she had about it, the oddest note to be b, e, you, when you train for outs, raised up being left out of how great all the hurdles still facing moscow and the

washington as we attempt to move forward a well the e u is left out of their day has passed. and really, what happened was us demanded under biden, that they go along with these thousands of sanctions that they cut all the very profitable out economic and trade and on gas one oil, one grains, fertilizer, one more technology on so many things that they had going with russia, they slice them all, and that has been to the detriment of the e u. a. now they are change to us, attract gas, or oil and things like that. so on their days are pretty much gone as being install tool. and ukraine is really as the whole world and the facing complete collapse. it's not

a factor. and it's really how to move past the ukraine project and not just let them go, but also do it in a way that it is. so you, you, the pace for us has said, well, we're washing our hands of it, it's, it's up to all of you. and that will absolutely estimate the sarah congress. will they kind of looking for a new relationship with russia? it's certainly in their interest to and that will be an interesting thing, but they won't do it as an attachment to the us because of compos, all in his administration has all but said, you're just extra baggage at this point. and they're sort of letting them loose that will be a painful experience throughout europe. 80 years now, they've just been tied to the u. s. wagon war charging forward and their economies of what, what is the us demand that they pay more for war?

and as i say, and that they bail out any little pieces left of the, of the ukraine, which isn't a totally corrupt to government. all they want is money. i mean, the only thing is on. so we can do is hold his hand out for billions, more money that, that goes right back out again to all right, so we have to leave it here now sort of flowed as co director of international auction center. thank you so much for your insight. thank you. now want to talk on one of the largest oil pumping stations in russia on sunday. it was a clear attempt by ukraine to derail the talks in the yard. that's the position of a deputy, russian prime minister, the color 7, drones attack the cr parking sky, oil pumping station in a short period of time. as a result of the attack, the energy equipment in the gas turbine plant were damaged because a lot of work remains to be done to restore this facility, as it also used energy equipment from western countries to the drone attack is

a direct response from ukraine to the us regarding the talks and saudi arabia, that's key. now, the ball called the oil, which flows through the attack. the pipeline belongs to kaz, expand along the company that runs the operations, belong to a number of western firms of the caspian pipeline consortium, brenda, the strike on this facility and act of tara training, the key of deliberately targeted press. now now a lot of me put in has said that the west and companies should be the ones forced to pick up the cost of repairs if they themselves are interested in restoring the facilities operations. let them organize this, apply all the necessary equipment, despite all the sanctions it is for their own good to all right, don't i need to talk about this now is the deputy for an editor ad comes the most kind of a prompt that davy dmitri,

about which is nice to have you join me right now. do you hear me? yes. now, this think this attack is of great concern to everyone. i wonder when you heard this news, what was your 1st reaction to it? because right now the deputy fine, a russian official is saying that the there was a deliberate attempt by ukraine to drill the talks and we, yeah, well, i just remember the biblical phrase, those cool. so the, we read the roving theory, the story basically, uh, these oil, it belongs to, cars are strong, you know, the central asian republics. next to russia, former soviet republics kind of stuff has been trying to renew it between russia and the west. you know, the main trade in fondness of kind of thought you are being a union and do nights the states. and then ukraine strikes deliberately, the pipeline which supplies oil, which is the property to you over to the states companies. so in that way,

we still have to adjust the width of the food that uh, the industry. sure. because it see basically he has shown many times that he's, i'm grateful. and now he's showing that if you tried to dump me, i'm going to be desperate. i'm going to a tech to a property. that's the message for him. because cause this problem is what kate the far away from the russian ukrainian border. it could not be a mistake. there were 7 ukrainian, you avi's, you know, with the, with the, you be the exposure force and with mattel objects inside. so they want to make sure they ship the people in the ship, the pipeline. and the, and, and the message to mr. trump is you want to save money on me. i will not let you save money. see, well, i think americans take it into account and i basically liked the message that we get from mr. trump and he is team. they are now saying that basically the

administration of prison by them didn't do anything to stop the conflict. they just spent us taxpayers money on it. they didn't even care if you were ready to participate. so thought it was just a huge crime noble and then going instructions and you can use, but also against us. that space cost them to at least $140000000000.00. if we believe mr. promise. very much see. so throughout the war, the us demand that the ukraine should not target russian energy infrastructure. why do you think that it's been ignored now? uh well, uh, i think mr. savanski is getting desperate. uh his uh, his boss is in the european union because he has bosses both in the united states and is that your opinion will know the ukrainian defense defenses would collapse in

a few days, be, be weeks. if the aid from europe i'm from the states stop slowing. so now that the peace folks are on track, which doesn't ask is desperate because he's career is dependent on this war. it hands on the war. if the war ends his career and also he won't win the election because he's the president of the, you know, uh, tens of thousands probably of hundreds of thousands of ukrainians. a died because he didn't want to negotiate with russia before to 1022. he insulted process the provoke trasha, and then he chose the methods which were most most destructive for your queens and those where contrary to his campaign promises when he was coming in. well he c k mess up with the president. the hope is exactly, you know, as well he was saying and that was why people even vote appointment. the 1st

instance. wow. you know why people hold for it could be the and that is and that's for the next big fellow to me. but of that, okay, even if you hold for the comedian, please know which, who was behind him, it was curt walker, us a special representative for ukraine who, who consolidate the map of mr. savanski openly during keys and extra complaints. and now co tall could easily gauge the peace negotiations he sold. so frustrate that the ball if mister trump's coming to power. so uh, you know, that puzzle is not very complicated if you remember, right? so what do you think the west responds is good to be, you know, towards key of considering the, the involvement of the west and this pipeline all the, the interest in it. uh well, it depends on uh, in what way it will be reported to mr. pumpkins, if meets the trump prunes that he's bill off to us. oil companies are losing money because of they have a, did she i, i think he calls him

a small guy because of it small the guy who never left washington with less than $60000000.00 with him. you know, if you noticed that, then there may be some action against mr. zalinski you from, from the united states. but most likely, you know, the, the, for the media, the west, the media will just try to forget that they will concentrate on the publications by uh, by the premium uh, site which, which claims the prosecutor mobile plan. s, if we didn't know how dangerous it was, it was, it was a bringing publication fluoride. we have to leave you here. now dmitri babbitts have added to florida to todd the cosmo must kaya pop the daily. thank you so much for your time. thank you. great, talking about a lot of meetings. the last key he had been planning is old visit to saudi arabia this week. but at the last minute he announced the trip has been postponed, a lot simpler. so we weren't invited to the russian american meeting in saudi

arabia. it was a surprise for us, but honestly, i don't care. i care about our partners and we are absolutely honest and open mind . that's why i'm not going to saudi arabia. we contacted our partners in saudi arabia and agreed that i'll be there on an official visit. march 10th. there was a sense of resentment in his voice when he said that he will expect it to meet with the us delegation in care of suggesting that he will not go out of his way. it's a great deal discussed with turkish president our to on we understand that the, to a discussed a number of items on the agenda. of course, 1st and foremost of the mediation role that church has been undertaking. this is a significant point that we'll get into in a little bit, but also the reforming of ukraine's territory integrity, certain concerns and guarantees that savanski expects in return. but more broadly, of course, bilateral relations are mandatory efforts, but piece talks and security guarantees, as well as the saudi arabia talks have been on the agenda. we understand that currently speaking, the church president has vocal book basically quite vocal about uncle, his position and mediating these talks, not just now,

but of course it dating back to 2022. there was no mention of this made by so that's good himself. and despite the developments and of course, the saudi arabia, he took the time to travel to turkey and meet with president tardy once. and we understand that until his current position suggests that the prospect of peace are of course more significant and more likely than ever. listen to him so it shouldn't cause an trumps approach to end the war quickly and via negotiations coincides with the policy that turkey has been following for the last 3 years. at the same time, i would like to say that the stand bull negotiations are the most appropriate platform and an important reference point for the sides. when the active diplomacy is taken into account russia, ukraine in the united states will continue to work together, get edit hunkers in a position, not just of course media between ukraine or rochelle, or even delegate with the united states, but just serves as an important place. and it has an important position and

ensuring that the prospect's of future talks may be held. and we understand that the states back to an initiative that was started in 2022 to, to, has been trying to broke up a strong since been involved in a peer w exchanges to we sold as talks in the spring of $2022.00 in a simple do things, but to key it has a real so now up being a platform. so piece and so we can expect very similar steps along the way, but we understand that truck is current position also suggests that ukraine, of course, or all the parties involved and do play ball. and we understand that most cost position, even in 2022. when the assembled piece talks were being held, held a very vocal, but open position to discussing the differences are grievances with ukraine. as part of the stumble piece talks, a resolution was drafted in an agreement was drafted. nobody had yet signed the dotted line, but the draft was there and it appeared that moscow was interested to have was quite happy with what was there on paper. however,

it appears that the west persuaded ukraine from walking away from that negotiating table. people that are close to 0 and season or circle have come on the record, suggesting that for a strong sense, it actually can essentially persuade. does that ask you to continue fighting? that's where the resentment also shines through is because the resentment is not just to what has happened, but what is happening at this given point because, so that's why you did mention time and time again. that is, western allies are partners, have not spoken about providing ukraine with nato membership. now we understand this is russia's red line. it is one of the biggest talking points as to when we discuss the prospects of any piece, talks that you refrain, cannot and must not join nature as it appears that since it has to be has something else in mind. but also did criticizes us partners. criticize a european union and criticize nato as to their approach and not providing so then see with what he wants as opposed to what ukraine really needs. and we understood the end of that is that meant of course, does not just limited self there. that is

a great deal numbers that much of the talks and saudi arabia, referring to any proposal that comes out of the us website, talks, hasn't ultimate. it doesn't mean much in the the united states is discussing with russia. the ultimatum that's hooton's set at the beginning of the full scale war. again, about ukraine without ukraine levels. i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums at the most difficult moment. why are we likely to do it now below, at this given point, at the very least, it appears russia is in a position where it is spoken of willing that russia will be brought back into the fold. and that it will take a different approach that it will work with its regional partners that will work with saudi arabia and target to ensure that all the parties that are currently interested in which is the supplement piece to make it happen. but of course, there's a great deal of a sudden from savanski, especially taken to consideration that he did not know that the us delegation would be meeting with it's russian counterparts and expects us to make its way to to have to the doorsteps of the landscape. joyce that the many at newspaper kentucky,

hockey or child believes that zalesky wouldn't be able to manipulate at all. gone like he does with western leaders. mrs. ellen ski himself is very important to stick young man and the the she can take advantage of anything. he can't do, she would like to use an invite to the rich as to the he is not. if you ask me a personal opinion, my personal opinion is, is i've had with a statesman. that's a good politician. much of a good, a military. it really does the other office country and things. so he is trying to be to play as he used to do when he was an actor. and it's a play is the presidents all and the the however it he should know abdul, i'm better than this. you cannot use it as though i'm easily id for anything

but the room she is trying to get his help. why stay with our team to national for all the latest from around the well see you again by the the military vehicles likes of mine is a political dance can be with the is fighting range 2 years today with damaged vehicles. the front line has moved on soldiers here, search and salvage seemingly.