when so many find themselves worlds of parts, we choose to look so common ground the the, the conversation was very useful. we not only listen, but also heard each other. and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position. russia and the us hold the 1st high level meeting and he is touching on everything from improving ties to the war in you crate diplomacy. ultimately, it's based on our actions based on commitments that are kept. the us delegation praises the pulse as a huge lead forward saying that a permanent piece is the only acceptable and to lead creating confidence. and while key of itself was the talks, a lot of them is the last key was on his own diplomatic to this time,

touching down and talk to you and attempting to drum up support the united states. as discussing with russia the ultimatum that pollutants set at the beginning of the full scale war, i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums that the most difficult moment. why are we likely to do it now? the kind of that welcome to our team, to an option, and you said tell what the latest update i a might call quite alright. a watch where lot mock pools, higher level delegations from russia and the united states have sat down at the saving table for the 1st time in more than 3 years. moscow stopped diplomats describe the math on 4 hours sessions as a positive step forward. i had to go to deals at the beginning of our conversation to see the marco rubio particularly emphasized the fundamental importance of each

country being guided by its national interest in international relations. and we fully agreed with this with the temple these national interest of course, will not always coincide and stuff, but when they do not coincide with me, it is very important to regulate. these discrepancies with it, so not to let them slide no further than, especially not to provoke a military with you or any other kind of confrontation. who script you from the so much. so the conversation was very useful on thought. so we not only listened but also heard each other who, you know, and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position of the deal. it's because of a very long day here in saudi arabia. the talks lasted for 4 and a half hours and quite a lot came out of them. i have to say that the story, the story is it made quite an effort to prevent any speculation or leaks from happening. have as of it talks to still went on. so then we were basically bombarded by all these various statements after the thoughts ended coming from both

sides. but i think the most important thing that happened today here in saudi arabia is that russia and the united states were able to make a very important 1st step toward so normalizing their relations. they've agreed to create mechanisms to normalize the work of their diplomatic commissions regarding the conflict in ukraine. they agreed to put together high level teams on each side, which will work together to look for a diplomatic, sustainable solution which would be suitable to all sides. and they're also, i think it's a very important point that they're even now starting to look beyond the constitution, ukraine, because they're saying that they want to lay the foundation for future dream projects in investment and economy in all these projects which may emerge after the constitution ukraine is done judging by what prefer today from representatives of both sides. it was a serious and optimistic conversation,

which did you see talk for 4 and a half hours. i stopped when yes. why not? and there was a very serious conversation on all the issues. we wanted to touch upon to them. is this positive? be constructive. everybody, they are the to get to the right outcome solution based we, we discussed it afterwards. we couldn't have imagined a better result after this after the session. it was very, very solid. i just want to stress so that it's just about a week ago. it was so hard to imagine something like this from happening. but then the phone conversation between presidents vladimir important and donald trump took place. and now old lady were here in saudi arabia. we're looking at moscow in washington talking and to most importantly, listening to each other like 4 minutes to elaborate said well was also made. i've been way of tracing its position about the conflict for 3 years. i don't think we

necessarily need to retire, but it's always been very clear about what those red line saw, what it's not wanting to negotiate on. i'm so from washington is perspective, have we heard anything new from the trump administration about what some given take might be from said ministration approach to not only the conflict in ukraine, but i guess to the relationship with russia is quite different from the previous administration. i think it also echo is with the rest of the board in foreign ministers, words about listening to each other us secretary of state, mark rubio said that this is about dialogue. this isn't about monologue. and he also said that any diplomatic success is possible only with concessions made by all sides. i think diplomacy ultimately is based on our actions based on commitments that are that so i think they came away today convinced that they are willing to begin to engage in a serious process to determine how and how quickly and through what mechanism can

in and be brought to this war, whether we can ultimately reach that outcome will obviously depend on every side and this conflicts willingness to, to agree to certain things. so um, i think it's important to have this meeting because we haven't really had much engagement with the russians for almost 3 years. and it's, that's the table for future conversations. how that turns out will be up to the parties and their willingness not just to make commitments, but to live by them. uh, that will be tested in the weeks to come. that other important point to that was made by the russian delegation and this is according to foreign minister, 30 a labyrinth is at moscow. finally was able to deliver its concerns and to the general stands on any theoretic deployments. also, any for un peacekeeping contingents in ukraine see a month the topic of the potential deployment of some kind of armed forces for peacekeeping contingency, allegedly after the conflict has already been resolved or an agreement has been reached, is of interest to the americans. so depending on which countries are prepared to

provide that, the question is being addressed to the members of the european union. we explained during our talks today that we have noted very well that president trump and several of his speeches was a 1st western leader to say clearly that pulling ukraine into nato was one of the main reasons for what is happening is that this is one of the biggest mistakes of joe biden and his administration, and that of trump for president at that time, he would not have allowed it to happen. so in this regard, we explained to our colleagues today, the president, putin has repeatedly emphasized that the expansion of nato, the absorption of ukraine by the north atlantic alliance is a direct threat to the interest of the russian federation, a direct threat to our sovereignty. so we have explained today that the appearance of armed forces from the same nato countries, but under a foreign flag, under the flag of the european union or under police. national flags does not change anything in this regard. this is, is, of course, isn't acceptable to us. so russia is talking about protecting its national interest . it's a security and i think it's very important that this opportunity gave moscow the

ability to deliver these concerns. and again, makes this a message for washington to be heard. what i think. and washington definitely did say it, because just as loud for off was measured, but also positive. so what's the us delegation? they described as a big step for this meeting? i don't, is that any understanding of what could be, you know, in terms of concrete terms here for the future outcome of today's event regarding the conflict in ukraine. it's pretty clear that both russia and the united states are on the same page, that it can become a frozen conference concept. it can be something temporary, it has to be a permanent end to the war. there are some the, some underlying principles. this needs to be a permanent, into the war and not a temporary and as we've seen in the past,

we know just the practical reality is that there is going to be some discussion of territory. and there's going to be a discussion of security guarantees. those are just yet fundamental basics uh that will, that will undergird and underlie any type of discussion. some very important words there, and frankly, not many people expected to any sort of diplomatic breakthroughs or for the concept in ukraine to, to and here on this day in saudi arabia. but it's the 1st steps which are very important. i think it's very, it's, it's vital for the 2 countries to begin that way forward towards normalizing relations and towards the end of the conflict in ukraine and towards a future where the 2 could work together. but let's cross live to founder and president of the washington base, the salad,

the american public relations. a fast committee psalm on all on 3. so i'm on, i'm glad to have you join me now. so we have had the 1st of what we had told will be series of meetings. what direction do you think this will. busy eventually take, is this just about peace and ukraine and always talking about much why the global issues? yeah. yeah, thank you so much, mike, for having me. and as we can see, that the, the big news have really happened, which is the fact that russia and the united states have resumed the political relationship, diplomatic relationships. so that to itself is a great thing. so saturday of yeah, work hard to in this dispute between moscow and washington dc and this will have a ripple effect, opponents of ripple effects or so many different challenges and crises in the wall . so definitely it's, it's a, it's a the right step in the right direction. so and in my view, um,

definitely there will be some thoughts and difficult thoughts in the, in the future. and they need to happen. that's fine. but at the end of the day, i see some optimism here and react with regards to the overall dynamics with regards to the washington dc and at most close relationship. all right, talking about difficult talks, generally you need negotiations, all sides need to give concessions. so what could all sides offer here? not just ukraine and russia, but the you, you live with the united states. yeah. great. it, yeah, in my view concessions as you said, are prerequisites for any meaningful reconcile mation. no doubt about that. even though also in personal relationships, so that's a fact of life. and as the agent, the british proverb says bitter a lean piece, vantage that victory bits are

a lead piece that i thought victory about. let's hope that we will also have that piece as possible. however, i'm not sure if these discussions resulted in clear cut agreements regarding the ukraine for example, because so many people in the media have been speaking about to create as if it was the one and only theme off of the art meeting. but i don't think it was the case at the end of the day ukraine was not present. so definitely you did. you did not have a holistic conversation with regards to how things should move forward. but this meeting was primarily, as i said about us, russian relations as a whole rather than focusing solely on, on your grade. nevertheless, this rep for tomorrow will likely pay the way for clear progress when you create in i would not say in the months ahead. i would say in the weeks ahead, so as i said earlier, it's nothing is clear yet,

but definitely there will be some painful concessions on compromises that need to be taken by all sides. all right, sorry, i read the homestead, this historic pulse. what does this mean for the role of the global south and international politics? okay, that's great. a little bit of re on the neutrality and compress, haven't been set in mind and has directed to roll in the rush, how you create, present, or exchange. if you remember, including americans is actually boosted. so there are areas, image with most coke you and also with washington dc. and that's the russian president, the president puts in praise the conference coming up as a month for personally professionally overseeing what he called the largest prisoner exchange since the cold war. so started maybe a got that for us to get that the confidence from the world leaders with regards to

being a trust worth the mediator in such a complex. and you know, so really has been through a lot of feats by the western media and also by wisdom officials in the beginning of the invasion of your credit because of their new control as tacit knowledge in the beginning of the invasion. but now the world sees the positive aspects of the salary policy and how they were thinking ahead that they want to position themselves as a mediator. so i think we should not rush to conclusions and instead focus on the grudge. well, yet important aspects of today's me think it's a historic meeting and actually can call this meeting to be as important as the question um, but the cuban missile crisis in 1962. so at the time when president kennedy, i worked with the russians to, to, to, to and that's a struggle between

a more score and d. c. i think the same goes with today. the russians and the americans through the saudis, worked hard to prevent more escalation that can lead to a catastrophe in, in the world a global security. so we don't want to see, i said, what for sure. and i think with people to the, from both sides are needed to, to, to just of their piece of work and to be more courageous on giving enough compromises to ensure the safety of their regents on 121. so but in general there is a very big, beautiful, positive momentum right now and very odd. and i think. ready is the same, the most cool and washington dc, and you can tell me more otherwise. well secondly, we look forward to keeping it beautiful from all sides as we move forward south mon

alonzo, a founder and president of the washington d. c. based out the american public relations fs committee. thank you so much for your insight. thank you. my great now also the conference, the us delegation, also a voice. it's under. i need to members who are still failing to reach the required defense spending target of 2 percent of the a g d b. however, increase the european support for key. i was welcome. the fact that a 3rd of our nato allies still do not contribute the minimum of 2 percent of their ttp the defense a decade. after that, we all collectively made that agreement isn't acceptable. we all have to make those tough decisions. we all have to contribute to our common defense, and we expect that that to this, to be a 2 way street for european allies and the fact that both the united kingdom, france and others, are talking about contributing more forceful way to ukraine's security. we think is a good thing. now to discuss that,

let's cross live to member of the german bundis diag for the f d party. jo dalton, you know, it is good to have you join me now. so how surprising is it that even that mid the biggest conflict in europe, citizens, the 2nd world war, some native countries still aren't reaching, they are required defense spending targets of 2 percent will be a g d p or yeah, i'm just calling you from from process i'm attending a new music that was close on the topic here and then criticizing, especially from american colleagues as these these nations are in do i wonder why they say they didn't choose the we don't get staying as long as it's still at 1.3 percent and they, they prioritize it, the other, the other thing, social benefits and other things over security and even germany. we have a problem. we only have our defense budget with 1.5 percent. and we just reaching it was to some metrics. so adding $20000000000.20,

all of the sudden the program and, and so just read $70000000000.00 to have to present from jimmy jimmy antonio's or how do you, which is the c 2 percent and i could consent to then then the all the nations here and having trouble even getting more because we talking not about 2 percent. we're talking about sleep on 5 percent in the few, jo, even though it's like we have an intake and the summit of an a drawing some a and, and i wonder how as a nation so you can reach that 2 percent then. so there's not, not the sense, so i'll also need it most in lots of nations. now these countries are in pad to spend more on nato, but they're still happy to hand over age to key. if, if clipping zalesky a fluid more important to them then their own defense as that looks on the same and

germany also, we're really we're, we're having an unfortunate which basically not to defend able to defend our country. and we handing over weapons out as easy on forces directly to ukraine. so i think it's irresponsible as this for the patients uh where you have to secure owens nations and then not as secure in other nation. and so that is not, not so popular. so you could see in the beginning awards what's most popular among the people in the country. it has changed on, on more than 50 percent on, not heavy with delivering that and they are looking forward. these talks there and not spending more money and more. what do you think? all right, now after the munich conference last week, and the statement made by the us representative view, it sped, defense spending of you members to now grow as this. talk about the edge. yes, it is a and also as a is a, is a want to know are the restrictions and on on we have a, this just seem to send

a deficit limit in the you, you for, for the nation. so there are talk from, from the use that, that they were not a check relate, standing for defense on a national defense, but initial defense, a calculations. and so there's that a sense there out some, some is a said tricks to do to receive these calls of even and make more money available. they talk about you avoidance, fall fall financing by us. you. this is then some parts you should talk about. 500000000000, something about 700 billions, which, which should be made available via the you. and these are talks at the moment, not concrete in 20, but there is, looks like they're, they're heading into the rich mountain solvers even demanding countries. now spend about 5 percent, but even the us is nowhere near that target. so he's demands realistic. what are

you interpret thing from this guy? so you jump is, is it, do you man, do make a, he's a business man. so he gets engineer creations whizzes. the far reaching a points and then saying, okay, this is what i what i want to make some of i of course, yes it is the limits where he says or is this the point that i'm willing to make this unit? as i said, the talks are wrong fee, just the prototype percent. so that is what i see coming in this year. and that's the agreement among neutral members. however, we would see what nations were reach at least a minimum of 2 percent. and of course, they would agreed to this for ya see, for 5 percent, but they would never reach it then. but all all right, the general decisions will last you'll audio there. we've been talking to a general to alton, a member of the jump on board to start to speaking to us. concerning the fallout

from the meeting. the unix take you to cancel a conference that was held about a week ago. now let's head to other stories. now an attack on one of the largest oil pumping stations in russia on sunday. ready was a clear attempt by ukraine to drill that had the 12th in the yard master claim and the position of a deputy russian foreign minister, colorless 7 drones attacked the cr parking sky oil pumping station in a short period of time. as a result of the attack, the energy equipment in the gas turbine plant were damaged because a lot of work remains to be done to restore this facility as, as it also used energy equipment from western countries to the drone attack is a direct response from the crane to the us regarding the talks and saudi arabia against you, the bulk of the oil which flows through the attack, the pipeline belongs to catholics done along the company that runs the operation belongs to a number of western firms of the caspian pipeline. calling to let you,

i'm the branded this strike on this facility, an act of terror cleaning. i. that's the key of deliberately targeted personnel. brought them to put in the has said, but the western companies should be the ones forced to pick up the cost of it best if they themselves are interested in restoring the facilities operations. let them organized this, apply all the necessary equipment, despite all the sanctions, it is for their own good. now the deputy forward, the editor of cost small cost multiple comes kaya prop the daily of dmitri bab, it says that a lot about the cubes. condos can be read from this attack. the grain strikes deliberately at the pipeline which supplies oil, which is the property to you over to the states companies. so in that way, we specifically ask you just the website though, for the industry. sure,

because it see, basically he has shown many times that he's on grateful. and now he's showing that if you tried to dump me, i'm going to be desperate. i'm going to attack your property. that's the message for him. because cause i strongly is located far away from that russian ukrainian border. it could not be a mistake. there were 7 ukrainian you avi's, you know, with the way the q b 's exposure force and with math and will objects inside. so they want to make sure they ship the people in the ship, the pipeline found the and, and the message to mr. trump is you want to save money on me. i will not for that. you'll save money. well, i think america should take us into account, and i basically liked the message that we get from mr. trump and he is team. they are now saying that basically the administration of prison by them didn't do

anything to stop the conflicts. they just spent us taxpayers money on it. they didn't, they wouldn't care if you were ready to participate. so not it was just a huge crime noble and then going instructions and ukraine is, but also against us that space. it costs them at least $140000000000.00 if we believe missed a problem. a lot of these, the last key had been planning. he's old and visit to saudi arabia this week. but at the last minute, t a. now the trip has been postponed, a law simple as if we weren't invited to the russian american meeting and saudi arabia. it was a surprise for us, but honestly, i don't care. i care about our partners and we are absolutely honest and open mind . so that's why i'm not going to saudi arabia. we contacted our partners in saudi arabia and agreed that i'll be there on an official visit. march 10th. there was a sense of resentment in his voice when he said that he will expect it to meet with the us delegation in care of suggesting that he will not go out of his way to

a great deal discussed with turkish president or the one we understand that the 2 discussed a number of items on the agenda. of course, 1st and foremost of the mediation role that church has been undertaking. this is a significant point that we'll get into in a little bit, but also the reaffirming of ukraine's territory integrity. certain concerns and guarantees that savanski expects in return. but more broadly you of course, bilateral relations, humanitarian efforts, but peace talks and security guarantees, as well as the saudi arabia talks have been on the agenda. we understand that currently speaking, the church president has quite vocal book, visible quite vocal about on christmas position and mediating these talks. not just now, but of course the dating back to 2022. there was no mention of this made by so then ski himself and despite the developments and of course the saudi arabia, he took the time to travel to turkey and meet with president are to want. and we understand that until his current position suggests that the prospects of peace are, of course, more significant and more likely than ever. let's listen to it. so it shouldn't

cause the drums to approach to end the work quickly. and via negotiations coincides with the policy that turkey has been following for the last 3 years. so at the same time, i would like to say that the assembled negotiations are the most appropriate platform and an important reference point for the sides. when the active diplomacy is taken into account russia, ukraine and the united states will continue to work together, did edit uncle was in a position not just of course, mediate between ukraine or rochelle raven delegate with the united states. but to serve as an important place since it has an important position in ensuring that the prospect of future talks may be held. and we understand that the states back to an initiative that was started in 2022 to key. it has been trying to broke up based on since being involved in a peer w exchanges to we sold as tulips in the spring of 2022000 a symbol of do things, but to key it has the wheel. so now up being a caught phone,

so piece mean so we can expect very similar steps along the way, but we understand that truck is current position also suggests that ukraine, of course, or all the parties involved and do play a ball. and we understand that most cars position, even in 2022 when the assembled piece talks were being held, held a very vocal, but open position to discussing the differences are grievances with ukraine. as part of the stumble piece talks, a resolution was drafted. an agreement was drafted, nobody had yet signed the dotted line, but the draft was there and it appeared that moscow was interested to have was quite happy with what was there on paper. however, it appears that the west persuaded you claim from walking away from that negotiating table. people that are close to 0 and sees inner circle have come on the record suggesting that sparse drawn. since it actually, you can essentially persuade, is that ask you to continue fighting and that's where the resentment also shines through is because of the was that meant is not just to what has happened, but what is happening at this given point because, so that's,

you did mention time and time again, that is western allies are partners have not spoken about providing ukraine with nato membership. now we understand this is russia's red line. it is one of the biggest talking points as to when we discussed the prospect of any piece talks that you refrain cannot and must not join nature as it appears that since on. so you have something else in mind, but also did criticizes us partners. criticize a european union and criticize nato as to their approach and not providing so and see with what she wants as opposed to what you bring really needs. and we understood the end of that is that meant of course, does not just limited self there. that is a great deal numbers that much of the talks. instead of going to be a referring to any proposal that comes out of the us, what it talks hasn't ultimatum, doesn't mean much in the the united states is discussing with russia. the ultimatum that student set at the beginning of the full scale war, again, about ukraine without ukraine to levels. i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums at the most difficult moment. why are we likely to do it now nimble at

this given point, at the very least, it appears russia is in a position where it is spoken of willing that russia will be brought back into the fold. and that it will take a different approach that it will work with its regional partners that will work with out of your way of you and target to ensure that all the parties that are currently interested in which is the supplement piece to make it happen. but of course, there's a great deal of a sudden from savanski, especially taken to consideration that he did not know that the us delegation would be meeting with its russian counterparts and expects the us to make its way to, to have to the doorsteps of the landscape. now journalist at the middle of the newspaper into key hockey old scholl believes that the last key wouldn't be able to manipulate the article on like she does with western lead us versus that asking himself is very important to seek young man and the, the, she can take advantage of anything he can the she would like to use and it was a it has to.