[000:00:00;00] the, the conversation was very useful. we not only listened but also heard each other. and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position. russia and the united states hold the 1st high level meeting in years to go to everything from improving ties to the war renew crate diplomacy. ultimately, it's based on our actions based on commitments that are kept. the us delegation phase is that to us, as a huge need for the sake of, of the permanent piece is the only acceptable adds to the ukraine company at all times. last is all to add to the status there. so say you know, the warning ukraine could so easily have been avoid. this could have been settled

very easily. just a half a half baked negotiator could have settled this years ago. and while key of itself was it not the full lot of his, the last key was on his own diplomatic to this time and touching down in turkey and attempting to drum up support the united states as discussing with russia the ultimatum that couldn't set at the beginning of the full scale war, i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums at the most difficult moments. why are we likely to do it now? the novices are due to national, reaching you from the russian capital with a latest from around the world. i have my cop watching now in what way? landmarked folks higher level delegations from russia and the united states have sat down at the same table for the 1st time in more than 3 years. but moscow's top

diplomat describe the math on for our session as a positive step forward. a go to deals at the beginning of our conversation to see the mark of rubio, particularly emphasize the fundamental importance of each country being guided by its national interest in international relations. and then we fully agreed with this was that these national interest of course, will not always coincide still, but when they do not coincide with me, it is very important to regulate these discrepancies. so that's not to let them slide look at the especially not to provoke a military who we do or any other kind of confrontation with script you from the so much. so the conversation was very useful on thought. so we not only listened but also heard each other who, you know, and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position of the deal. it's because of very long day here in saudi arabia. the talks lasted for 4 and a half hours and quite a lot came out of them. i have to say that the story,

the story is it made quite an effort to prevent any a speculation or leaks from happening have as of it talks to still went on. so then we were basically bombarded by all these various statements after the talk saying it's coming from both sides. but i think the most important thing that happened today here in saudi arabia is that russia and the united states were able to make a very important 1st step towards normalizing their relations. they've agreed to create mechanisms to normalize the work of their diplomatic commissions regarding the conflict in ukraine. and they agreed to put together high level teams on each side, which will work together to look for a diplomatic, sustainable solution which would be suitable to all sides. and they're also, i think it's a very important point that they're even now starting to look beyond the conflict in ukraine. because they're saying that they want to lay the foundation for future

dream projects in investment and economy in all these projects which may emerge after the constitution. ukraine is done judging by what prefer today from representatives of both sides. it was a serious and optimistic conversation, which they just do talk for 4 and a half hours. that's when yes, why not? and there was a very serious conversation on all the issues we wanted to touch upon to them. is this positive? be constructive. everybody, they are the to get to the right outcome solution based we, we discussed it afterwards. we couldn't have imagined a better result after this after the session. it was very, very solid. i just want to stress that it's just about a week ago. it was so far to imagine something like this from happening, but then the phone conversation between president vladimir important and donald trump took place. and now old lady were here in saudi arabia. we're looking at

moscow in washington talking and most importantly, listening to each other like 4 minutes to elaborate. the said well was also made. i've been way of tracing its position about the conflict for 3 years. i don't think we necessarily need to recap, but it's always been very clear about what those red line saw, what it's not wanting to negotiate on. i'm so from washington suspect, if have we heard anything new from the trumpet, ministration about west some given take might be from said ministration approach to not only the conflict in ukraine, but i guess to the relationship with russia is quite different from the previous administration. i think it also echo is with the rest of the board in foreign ministers, words about listening to each other, your secretary of state, mark rubio said that this is about dialogue. this isn't about monologue. and he also said that any diplomatic success is possible only with concessions made by all

sides. i think diplomacy ultimately is based on the actions based on commitments that are that so i think they came away today convinced that they are willing to begin to engage in a serious process to determine how and how quickly and through what mechanism can in and be brought to this war, whether we can ultimately reach that outcome will obviously depend on every side and it's complex willingness to, to agree to certain things. so um, i think it's important to have this meeting because we haven't really had much engagement with the russians for almost 3 years. and it's, that's the table for future conversations. how that turns out will be up to the parties and their willingness not just to make commitments but the live by them. uh, that will be tested in the weeks to come. another important point to that was made by the russian delegation, and this is according to 4 minutes to serve. the elaborate is that moscow finally was able to deliver its concerns and to the general stands on any theoretic

deployments. also, any for and peacekeeping contingents in ukraine see a month the topic of the potential deployment of some kind of armed forces for peacekeeping contingency, allegedly after the conflict has already been resolved or an agreement has been reached, is of interest to the americans. so depending on which countries are prepared to provide that, the question is being addressed to the members of the european union. we explained during our talks today that we have noted very well that president trump and several of his speeches was the 1st western leader to say clearly that pulling ukraine into nato was one of the main reasons for what is happening. that this is one of the biggest mistakes of joe biden and his administration, and that of trump for president at that time. he would not have allowed it to happen. so in this regard, we explained to our colleagues today, the president, putin has repeatedly emphasized that the expansion of nato, the absorption of ukraine by the north atlantic alliance is a direct threat to the interest of the russian federation, a direct threat to our sovereignty. so we have explained today that the appearance of armed forces from the same nato countries, but under a foreign flag,

under the flag of the european union or under with national flags, does not change anything in this regard. this is, is of course, acceptable to us. so russia is talking about protecting its national interest. it's a security and i think it's very important that this opportunity gave moscow the ability to deliver these concerns. and again, makes this a message for washington to be heard. what i think. and washington definitely did say it because just as loud for off was measured, but also positive. so what's the us delegation they described as a big step for this meeting? i don't. is that any understanding of what could be, you know, in terms of concrete terms here for the future outcome of today's event regarding the conflict in ukraine. it's pretty clear that both russia and the united states are on the same page, that it can become a frozen conference concept. it can be something temporary, it has to be

a permanent end to the war. there are some to some underlying principles. this needs to be a permanent, into the war and not a temporary and as we've seen in the past, we know just the practical reality is that there is going to be some discussion of territory. and there's going to be a discussion of security guarantees. those are just yet fundamental basics uh that will, that will undergird and underlie any type of discussion. some very important words there, and frankly, not many people expected to any sort of diplomatic breakthroughs or for the concept in ukraine to, to and here on this day in saudi arabia. but it's the 1st steps which are very important. i think it's very, it's, it's vital for the 2 countries to begin that way forward towards normalizing

relations and towards the end of the conflict in ukraine and towards a future where the 2 could work together. the power and full and tie between washington and moscow has been welcomed around the world sign on my julia expressed hope that he could lead to a resolution of the conflict. the lord. yeah, we are glad to see all efforts that are conducive to peace, including the agreement on holding talks between the us and russia. china hopes that all relevant parties will play a constructive role and accumulating conditions for promoting a political solution and realizing piece. it's a welcoming development. it's always good to see to lead as leaders of global powers meeting and talking because it provides the opportunity to resolve conflict and these tensions. this is something that i'm sure, every well meaning citizen of the planet would welcome founder and president of the washington based saudi america, public relations. this last committee salma and i'll, i'm sorry,

believes that the biological talks between moscow and washington will have a positive effect on the whole weld. i don't think the ukraine was the one the only topic didn't the discussions that happened here in re out between administer a love role and a secretary? who do i think they were speaking about the holistic aspects of the set of the us process relationship. so they want to start from the top state or from the bottom. so they wanted to start from the top 5 historians relationship by reducing the tension between them and also to accommodate each other and to see the grievances of each. and this will have a ripple effect or positive ripple effect on so many different challenges and crises in anything, the wall. so definitely it's, it's a, it's

a the right step in the right direction. so and in my view, um, definitely there will be some thoughts and difficult thoughts in the, in the future, and they need to happen. that's fine. but at the end of the day, i see some optimism here and beyond with regards to the overall dynamics with regards to the washington dc and the most close relationship not earlier when they talk so between ross and the us were ongoing. the fox news channel disclosed what he considers says 3 stage brand to settle the war. it included the cease fire, you have to hold elections and then a peace agreement. though donald trump didn't and said directly if those reports with true, but he hinted that one particular point which should be implemented in one way or not, or another. i'm really disappointed in what's happened. i've been watching this for

3 years as to where that would have never happened to vice president. and i've been watching these, these, you know, people being killed at levels that you've rarely see, not, not even close since the 2nd world war. and i'm very disappointed. i hear that, you know, there's upset about not having a seat. well, they've had a seat for 3 years. and a long time before that this could have been settled very easily. just a half, a half baked negotiator could a settle this years ago. well, we have a situation where we haven't had elections and ukraine where we have martial law essentially marshall lower and ukraine. where the leader in ukraine. i mean, i hate to say it, but he's down at 4 percent approval rating. and yeah, i would say that, you know, when they want to see that today, but you can say that people have to, when the people of ukraine have to say, like, you know, it's been a long time since we've had an election. that's not a russia thing, that's something coming from me and coming from many other countries,

also by pink floyd, co founder and peace activist who raj, a, what has is helpful. and the following relations between moscow and washington could bring the long awaited ceasefire. a new trade, as you probably know, i spoke to the security council yesterday, which went very well and i've had a lot of great response to what i have to say. well, i had to say really is that, that the, the fact that mr. trump and mr. preaching had spoken together on the telephone a couple of days ago, which encouraging, and that it was definitely a move in the right direction from what i've heard. it sounds as if the folks in saudi arabia this morning, which went on for 4 and a half hours. i've gone very well. i'm from listening to the tone of voice of the people describing what happened. it sounds as if it is a move in the right direction and i'm keeping my fingers firmly crossed that that

will be a resolution to, to what is, let's be honest about it, a divided nation. ukraine is a divided nation. i said that he has to do to the security council and it is to resolve those to do patients in ukrainian society. the rest of us need to come together and help them to resolve the problems so that they can move forward in a piece for well, i mean this has been going on since 1998 since the breaking of the promises by james bags are to present garbage, charles, the nato would not move uh, one inch be on the um, east and borders of the united germany. that so now the story we could talk about that for us, but that's the press. the button and administration was just continuing the basic american policies since the beginning of the ninety's and,

and their resistance to the idea that the russian federation needed sets and little conditions of security for, for its cell phone, for the rest of eastern europe. so nothing's really not well, it has changed bites and was not talking to purchase. trump is talking to booting. that is a huge step in the right direction. as i said earlier, so i'm keeping my fingers crossed. let's see what they have to say one to one another tomorrow and the day off from the day after. as they get you into the details of these talks about the future of you. great and cause i hope now an attack on one of the largest oil pumping stations in russia on sunday was a clear, a 10 by ukraine to derail the talks in riyadh. and that's the position of the deputy russian pon minister. the go live 7, drones attacked the cr parkins, kyle oil pumping station in a short period of time. as a result of the attack,

the energy equipment in the gas turbine plant were damaged. a lot of work remains to be done to restore this facility. as it also used energy equipment from western countries, the drone attack is a direct response from ukraine to the us regarding the talks and saudi arabia. now the bulk of the oil which flows through the attack, the pipeline belongs to kaz, expand along the company that runs the operation, belongs to a number of western firms, the caspian pipeline consortium and branded the striker needs facility. an act of tara came in the key of deliberately targeted personnel and put in has said the western companies should be the ones forced to pick up the cost of the past. yes, and you see if they themselves are interested in restoring the facilities operations, let them organize this, apply all the necessary equipment, despite all the sanctions. it is for their own good international journalists, the mitre, bob. it says that

a lot about kids condos can be read from base attack. the grain strikes deliberately at the pipeline which supplies oil, which is the property to you over to the states companies. so in that way, we still have to just uh, wednesday until further as an issue because it see basically uh he has shown many times the keys i'm grateful. and now he showing that if you tried to dump me, i'm going to be desperate. i'm going to attack your prophecy. that's the message for him. because cause i strongly is located far away from that russian ukrainian border. it could not be a mistake. there were 7, uh, ukraine, you avi's, you know, with the, with the q b 's exposure force. and with mattel objects inside, so they want to make sure they ship the people and they ship the pipeline, found the and,

and the message to mr. trump is you want to save money on me. i will not let you save money. well, i think the american should take it into account, and i basically liked the message that we get from mr. trump and he is team. they are now saying that basically the administration of prison by them didn't do anything to stop the conflicts. they just spent us taxpayers money on it. they didn't even care if you were ready to participate. so not it was just a huge crime, not on the against reference and ukrainians, but also against us. that space. it costs them at least $140000000000.00 if we believe missed the problem. and in talking about the lot of these, the last key he had been counting is old and visit to saudi arabia this week. but at the last minute, he announced that the trip has been cancelled a law sublist. we weren't invited to the russian american meeting in saudi arabia.

it was a surprise for us, but honestly, i don't care. i care about our partners and we are absolutely honest and open mind . that's why i'm not going to saudi arabia. we contacted our partners in saudi arabia and agreed that i'll be there on an official visit. march 10th. there was a sense of resentment in his voice when he said that he won't expect it to meet with the us delegation in case of suggesting that he will not go out of his way to a great deal discussed with turkish president or the one we understand that the 2 a discussed a number of items on the agenda, of course, 1st and foremost of the mediation role that turkey has been undertaking. this is a significant point that we'll get into in a little bit, but also the reforming of ukraine's territory integrity. certain concerns and guarantees that savanski expects in return. but more of them you, of course, bilateral relations are mandatory efforts, but piece stocks and security guarantees as well as the saudi arabia talks have been on the agenda. we understand that currently speaking, the church president has quite vocal book that's been quite vocal about on compass position and mediating these talks. not just now,

but of course of dating back to 2022. there was no mention of this made by so that excuse himself. and despite the developments and of course, the saudi arabia, he took the time to travel to turkey and meet with president tardy wants. and we understand that until his current position suggests that the prospect so piece are of course more significant and more likely than ever. listen to and solution cuz i know trump's approach to end the work quickly and via negotiations coincides with the policy that turkey has been following for the last 3 years. so at the same time, i would like to say that the assembled negotiations are the most appropriate platform and an important reference point for the sides. when the active diplomacy is taken into account russia, ukraine, the united states will continue to work together. you know that it was in a position not just of course media between ukraine or rochelle, or even delegate with the united states, but to serve as an important place. and it has an important position in ensuring

that the prospect of future talks may be held. and we understand that the states back to an initiative that was started in 2022 to key. it has been trying to broke up a stool since being involved in a peer w exchanges to we sold as folks in the spring of $2022.00 in a simple do things, but to key it has a real so now up being a platform for peace, me so we can expect very similar steps along the way, but we understand that truck is current position also suggests that ukraine, of course, or all the parties involved and do play ball. and we understand that most cost position, even in 2022. when the assembled piece talks were being held, held a very vocal, but open position to discussing the differences are grievances with ukraine. as part of the stumble piece talks, a resolution was drafted, an agreement was drafted. nobody had yet signed the dotted line. but the draft was there and it appeared that moscow was interested to have was quite happy with what was there on paper. however,

it appears that the west persuaded ukraine from walking away from that negotiating table. people that are close to zillow and sees in our circle have come on the record, suggesting that support strong since it actually you can especially persuade, is that ask you to continue fighting and that's where the was happening. also shines through is because of the was that mean is not just to what has happened, but what is happening at this given point because, so that's, you did mention time and time again. that is, western allies are partners, have not spoken about providing ukraine with nato membership. now we understand this is russia's red line. it is one of the biggest talking points as to when we discussed the prospects of any piece talks that you would crank, cannot and must not join nature as it appears that since on. so you have something else in mind, but also did criticizes us partners. criticize a european union and criticize nato as to their approach and not providing so and see with what he wants as opposed to what you can really needs. and we understand does that, does that mean, of course, does not just limited software. that is a great deal numbers that mentioned detox and saudi arabia,

referring to any proposal that comes out of the us, which it talks as an ultimatum. what does it mean? much in the, the united states is discussing with russia the ultimatum that's hooton's, set at the beginning of the full scale war. again, about ukraine without ukraine levels. i wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums at the most difficult moment. why are we likely to do it now nimble at this given point, at the very least, it appears russia is in a position where it is spoken of willing that russia will be brought back into the fault. and that it will take a different approach that it will work with its regional partners that will work with out of your way to be in charge here to ensure that all the parties that are currently interested in which is the supplement piece to make it happen. but of course, there's a great deal of a sudden from savanski, especially taken to consideration that he did not know that the us delegation would be meeting with it's russian counterparts and expects the us to make its way to, to have to the doorsteps of the landscape. that that's how rushes for

a ministry spokeswoman has described. the use vision for how the ukraine complex should end. maybe jim, we see a nervous, it's not panic reaction from the west of the russian american context. it's surprising this reaction from the west regarding russian american interactions, especially considering that americans are part of the same west hopkins as be well, apparently it can be high level of russian american contacts are causing real hysteria among your atlantic results. we're witnessing what seems to be an unprecedented phenomenon, international relations, the imposition of their own participation in the negotiation process. you see this involves some british and you friends of this landscape miller shame, which demonstrates inability to move beyond its own primitive mindset of producing a hybrid war with our country until the last ukrainian look again. if you're being commissioner for defense under eskoville is what tirelessly insist that a just world is impossible without increasing your prince power. but take a look at the ukraine. i'm addressing that you representatives. now,

what have you done to that country? look at the people, the citizens of this nation. what kind of power are you trying to increase with each? a wireless re add the talk was focused on resolution, cooperation and dialogue. but over the use, the tone is different. but with the commission chief also have under lee and pledging to ramp up on supplies to key if, while the hunger and the prime minister said that the e u has long missed its opportunity to play any real role in restoring peace financially and militarily, europe has brought more to the table than anyone else. and we will step up. we want to partner with a us to deliver a just and less than piece for ukraine. now is a critical moments to me if you keep the leaders of the great countries of europe miss the moment when they could have taken the initiative on the russian war. in ukraine. you institutions are not capable of an initiative. the council and the

commission are composed of bureaucrats. there is no innovation. all that comes from there is the daily grind and we know political vision or leadership. but while a number of new heads of state gathered in paris for an emergency meeting on monday, the discussed, i'll be able to discuss how to deal with the new administration in washington. alamedos hinted that they are not interested in being involved in the conflict resolution. but i'm more than happy to increase the ministry support for you before you crane that over to our take career split instead of the best campus. european leaders seem to be at log a heads out and who are even know what to do next. and the way feature not being able to come up with any concrete plans, despite the facts they met at that emergency meeting. he, in paris, it wasn't all european lead is no, it was just

a select few that he does of countries like poland, france, germany, and also the u. k. being invited to loan to that. now the case prime minister kids, selma, putting together plans to send peacekeeping troops to ukraine. that didn't go down well with everyone. but here's what style mode would like to do. your must play its role. i'm prepared to consider committing purchased forces on the ground. alongside up as if there was a last in piece of agreement. but the must be a us box stop. because a us security guarantee. this is the only way to effectively deter russia from attack. can you create a good but case tell me say, would god bless you, rip always is going to need the us as a back stop. well, too many cooks for the broth. that's what we heard from the us. special and boy

chief calla guntee. he might be white because they couldn't come up with a plan that they could all agree on. we have the usual folks like president backorder holding not meeting saying you needs to spend more money on defense. that's also what we heard from this level of delay in the european commission president say, peace through strength. what she means is we need to keep building more weapons and buying more weapons. i'm not, of course, as music to the ease of defense contract is germany's largest defense contract. the saying, actually, this is the entire reason why your opinion is, haven't been invited to that summit, the big boys summit and read between russia and the us. and that's because they have and defended that defense for decades. now, if you don't invest, if you're not strong, they handle you like kids. if parents have dinner,

the kids have to sit at another table. the us is negotiating with russia and no european. is it the table, it has become very clear that the europeans, all the kids, problems for minnesota also at basing that at some point you will have to send troops, team crane at possibly off to being requested by the united states to do that. he was like, well, that's something we will need to acquiesce to. nature's chief saying, europe is willing to step up to the plate, but again, new details and lots the points. new details will agree don't in not meeting in paris inside one need a stool that this is the gym and chancellor, all of schultz who said it is not the time to be discussing the future. if you claim with that ukraine is furnished for food and it is completely premature and