the the conversation was very useful, we not only listened but also heard each other. and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position wide open pools as russia and the us told the 1st high level meeting in years. paving the way to re build bilateral times with sites set on ending the conflicting ukraine. diplomacy ultimately is based on actions based on commitments that are kept in the us delegation of the tools in riyadh right there as peace is on the table. the secretary of state reminds the world that can make lives must be on the same permanent peak. the only way to add to the fight the easy, it was blatantly side line during the toilets and saudi arabia. president drum highlights the block, had news to resolve the prices, but now washington taking release. it's more important for them than it is for us.

we have an ocean in between, and they don't also and the program also is a security services revealed a former russian member of parliament facing charges of embezzlement, fled to ukraine. he was out of ultimately a pro shop by western actors to organize a temporary cruise, but attempt to revolution in most of those details on, on the, just off the 80. i'm here and most go on to use live and worldwide with the old news on filtered, unlike what you get from the legacy, mainstream media. so top story for you this hour here, went out to you in american delegation, has just left saudi arabia off the what? well, everyone's calling his story told, with russia happened in riyadh for 4 hours on tuesday. besides the direct dame to sort out by the rule ties that have basically been decimated in recent years. and

they're also looking to create a road map to set, hoping you crate in conflict, often with structures 5 minutes to some of the old as a step in the right direction to go to deals at the beginning of our conversation to see the marco rubio, particularly emphasized the fundamental importance of each country being guided by its national interest in international relations. and then we fully agreed with this with the temple these national interest of course, will not always coincide, understood, but when they do not coincide with me, it is very important to regulate these discrepancies so that so not to let them slide know for the need, especially not to provoke a military who would or any other kind of confrontation will script you from the so much. so the conversation was very useful on thought. so we not only listened but also heard each other who, you know, and i have reason to believe that the american side has begun to better understand our position of the deal. it's because of very long day here in saudi arabia. the talks lasted for 4 and a half hours and quite a lot came out of them. i have to say that the story,

the story is it made quite an effort to prevent any speculation or leaks from happening have as of the talks to still went on. so then we were basically bombarded by all these various statements after the thoughts ended coming from both sides. but i think the most important thing that happened today here in saudi arabia is that russia and the united states were able to make a very important 1st step toward so normalizing their relations. they've agreed to create mechanisms to normalize the work of their diplomatic missions regarding the conflict in ukraine. and they agreed to put together high level teams on each side, which will work together to look for a diplomatic, sustainable solution which would be suitable to all sides. and they're also, i think it's a very important point that they're even now starting to look beyond the conflict in ukraine. because they're saying that they want to lay the foundation for future

dream projects in investment and economy in all these projects which may emerge after the constitution. ukraine is done judging by what prefer today from a representative. so from both sides, it was a serious and optimistic conversation, which did you see talk for 4 and a half hours? i slipped when yes. why not? and there was a very serious conversation on all the issues we wanted to touch upon to them. is this positive? be constructive. everybody, they are the to get to the right outcome solution based we, we discussed it afterwards. we couldn't have imagined a better result after this after the session. it was very, very solid. i just want to stress so that it's just about a week ago. it was so hard to imagine something like this from happening. but then the phone conversation between president vladimir important and donald trump took place. and now old lady were here in saudi arabia. we're looking at moscow in

washington talking and most importantly, listening to each other like 4 minutes to elaborate said well was also made. i've been way of tracing its position about the conflict for 3 years. i don't think we necessarily need to recap, but it's always been very clear about what those red line saw, what it's not wanting to negotiate on. i'm so from washington is perspective, have we heard anything new from the trump administration about what some given take might be from. so i've ministration approach to not only the conflict in ukraine, but i guess to the relationship with russia is quite different from the previous administration. i think it also echo is with the rest of the board in foreign ministers, words about listening to each other us secretary of state, mark rubio said that this is about dialogue. this isn't about monologue. and he also said that any diplomatic success is possible only with concessions made by all

sides. i think diplomacy ultimately is based on our actions based on commitments that are yes. so i think they, i came away today convinced that they are willing to begin to engage in a serious process to determine how and how quickly and to what mechanism can in and be brought to this war. whether we can ultimately reach that outcome. well, obviously depend on every side in this conflicts, willingness to, to agree to certain things. so i think it's important to have this meeting because we haven't really had much engagement with the russians for almost 3 years. and it's, that's the table for future conversations. how that turns out will be up to the parties and their willingness not just to make commitments, but to live by them. uh, that will be tested in the weeks to come. another important point to that was made by the russian delegation, and this is according to 4 minutes to serve. the elaborate is at moscow finally was able to deliver its concerns and to the general stands on any theoretic deployments

. also, any for and peacekeeping contingents in ukraine see a month, the topic of the potential deployment of some kind of armed forces for peacekeeping contingency, allegedly after the conflict has already been resolved or an agreement has been reached, is of interest to the americans. so depending on which countries are prepared to provide the questions being addressed to the members of the european union, we explained during our talks today that we have noted very well, the president trump and several of his speeches. and was the 1st western leader to say, clearly that polling ukraine into nato was one of the main reasons for what is happening . that this is one of the biggest mistakes of joe biden and his administration. and that of trump for president. at that time, he would not have allowed it to happen. so in this regard, we explained to our colleagues today, the president, putin has repeatedly emphasized that the expansion of nato, the absorption of ukraine by the north atlantic alliance is a direct threat to the interest of the russian federation, a direct threat to our sovereignty. so we have explained today that the appearance of armed forces from the same nato countries, but under a foreign flag,

under the flag of the european union, or under boosting, national flags does not change anything in this regard. this is, is of course, acceptable to us. so russia is talking about protecting its national interest. it's a security and i think it's very important that this opportunity gave moscow the ability to deliver these concerns. and again, makes this message for washington to be heard. what i think. and washington definitely did say it because just as loud for off was measured, but also positive. so what's the us delegation they described as a big step for this meeting? i don't. is that any understanding of what could be, you know, in terms of concrete terms here for the future outcome of today's event regarding the conflict in ukraine. it's pretty clear that both russia and the united states are on the same page, that it can become a frozen conference concept. it can be something temporary, it has to be

a permanent end to the war. there are some the, some underlying principles. this needs to be a permanent, into the war and not a temporary and as we've seen in the past, we know just the practical reality is that there is going to be some discussion of territory. and there's going to be a discussion of security guarantees. those are just yet fundamental basics uh that will, that will undergird and underlie any type of discussion. some very important words there, and frankly, not many people expected to any sort of diplomatic breakthroughs or for the concept in ukraine to, to and here on this day in saudi arabia. but it's the 1st steps which are very important. i think it's a, it's, it's vital for the 2 countries to begin that way forward towards normalizing

relations and towards the end of the conflict in ukraine and towards a future where the 2 could work together. and as washington and moscow break the eyes. so the news has been welcomed around the world among the many timing in the address. for example, china, nigeria, which are hopeful that a peaceful resolution is inside your load. yeah, we are glad to see all efforts that are conducive to peace, including the agreement on holding talks between the us and russia. china hopes that all relevant parties will play a constructive role in accumulating conditions for promoting a political solution and realizing piece. it's a welcoming development. it's always good to see to lead as leaders of global powers meeting and talking because it provides the opportunity to resolve conflict and these tensions. this is something that i'm sure, every well meaning citizen of the planet would welcome. and as the world watched on the european leadership went into full panic mode, because much to it's hora,

it found itself uninvited to the torch and reaction. and donald trump took them. i'm going to remind brussels that had 3 long years to end because i'm really disappointed in what's happened. i've been watching this for 3 years as a word that would have never happened to vice president. and i've been watching these, these, you know, people been killed at levels that you've rarely see, not, not even close since the 2nd world war. and i'm very disappointed. i hear that, you know, there's upset about not having a seat. well, they've had a seat for 3 years and a long time before that this could have been settled very easily. just a half, a half baked negotiator could have settled this years ago. well, we have in a situation where we haven't had elections in ukraine, where we have martial law essentially marshall lower and ukraine. we're the leader in ukraine. i mean, i hate to say it,

but he's down at 4 percent approval rating. and yeah, i would say that, you know, when they want to see that the table, you can say that people have to, when the people of ukraine have to say, like, you know, it's been a long time since we've had an election. that's not a rush of thing, that's something coming from me and coming from many other countries also. i believe the president zelinski said last week that he doesn't know what half of the money is that we gave him. well, we gave them, i believe, $350000000000.00, but let's say is something less than that, but it's a, it's a lot. and we have to equalize with europe because europe is giving us a, given a very much smaller percentage of that. i think europe has given a 100000000 and we've given, let's say 300 plus and it's more important for them than it is for us. we have an ocean in between. and they don't. and while, but you, you leadership scramble to try and stay relevant and conveying an emergency meeting and powers mixed messages on coming in from various people in europe with some

backing from sacraments and others looking to fill the american void. have a good listen to that financially. and militarily, europe has brought more to the table than anyone else, and we will step up. we want to partner with the us to deliver a just and lasting peace for ukraine. now is a critical moment. and what is the leaders of the great countries of europe missed the moment when they could have taken the initiative and the war and ukraine at the european institutions are not capable of initiative. the big countries of the european union should have taken more courageous steps towards peace in the last 3 years of it. but they were stuck on the side of the war. and we urge them to come over and pursue peace. but they didn't want to be hard problem and investigative journalist and founder of truth and media, ben swan. and he says that the you was left out of the tools that apparently fee is a reproach mall between moscow and washington. and evidently, an end to the conflict in ukraine is one of the things that makes this entire dialogue is so important between the western russia is that they didn't talk only

about ukraine, which is interesting because for the past 3 years, we've seen that the united states doesn't talk to russia at all, but when we talk about russia, it's a completely singular, we only talked about one issue to warn you, crane. and so one of the things that we see in this discussion that was very important, was an entire discussion about gaz. problem and about energy. the fact of the united states is talking about working with russia and getting investment into guys from and working on energy projects with russia is not just stunning. the reporter, so there a minute ago, a week ago, a lot of people wouldn't believe in this conversation would be happening now. a year ago, a lot of people thought might have thought this conversation would never happen again. the idea that the us is talking about energy ideas with russia at a time when europe sadly need both russian energy and american energy and the united states is trying to really build out his energy profile. i think it's a pretty remarkable moment. so that's a very important moment. again, this discussion going far beyond just ukraine,

but also talking about bigger issues about russia in the united states. the united states saying they want to see americans being able to invest in russia and russian companies able to act in the united states. again, this is something that a year ago, 2 years ago, wasn't even discussed. why does it leave? could it could have find itself totally sideline here when it comes to discussing real issues from the economy to politics, to diplomacy and other things. well, so far the answer to that is, yes. i remember the president trump said something very interesting when he 1st had his conversation phone call with president putin. he came back and he said after they had had their discussion, he says our team will inform president zalinski of our conversation informing was very different than having a discussion with him as well. so i think he of has been sidelined at this point. one of the things that, that the trump administration and the russian government seemed to be in agreement upon is the fact that there need to be elections held in ukraine so that the people of ukraine can select their leaders. as we all know, it's been over

a year since while i'm here, zalinski is term has expired. even though there is, there are rules obviously in ukraine where they say, well, he's able to stay in this position. you definitely have to be moved out of the brands, but clearly present, including the president. trump are in agreement that you should not be president right now. and there need to be election. so that is not just sideline to having this discussion is completely sidelined zelinski himself and left him out of this discussion what the talks mean for other regions, such as the middle east, africa, or a or even the asia pacific. the reason this is significant for, for folks that agent or in africa or in latin america, is because if russia, in a matter of weeks after trump becomes president, can normalize relations with the united states is referrals the doors opened, disabled. what else is possible? i think that there's a huge concern for europe that if the united states and russian normalize relations and they kind of move on without them as to what seems to be happening in this conversation. it leaves europe and a very tough position. why is that?

because what the 0 of actually bringing to the table, they don't bring a whole lot to the, to the world table, other than siding with the united states. western europe does whatever the united states wants them to do. that's kind of been their role since world war 2. the problem is this, when, when the united states has lots of worked with russia and let's normalize relations and let's expand the drilling and oil exploration and dominate for you and markets working together. well, the europeans have no role in that other than the purchase, whatever oil in energy comes from russia or comes from the united states or comes from the middle east, but they are left out of this discussion so. so what does europe actually bring to the table? and again, they have had outside influence based upon what the united states has allowed them to have. what does france or germany, or spain or italy really bring to the table in these discussions? and the answer is not much, yes, they sent some weapons to ukraine. they sent some money to ukraine. but the reality is, is that nato, as, as a strategic alliance, as we are so often told that it is,

is completely dependent upon the united states, paying the freight for every body. and so it's essentially one country, the united states that carries forward its own plans. and then western europe runs behind it saying, well, we're, we're on a coalition. we all agree in the same thing. but the truth is, they're not bringing anything to the table other than a voice. this is why the relationship between the united states and russia may be unnerving in western europe because russia brings a lot of the table. china brings a lot of the table. india brings a lot of the table was in europe, really does a couple of colombo on the domestic front, russian security services ever. vail territory, former russian and member of parliament facing charges of and as on flight to ukraine, is where he was reportedly prop topped by various western actors too. as we understand trying to attempt a clue here in moscow. well, the details now here's onto the marine a customer wants your thoughts, the land in your home country and face prosecution. there aren't many options left

but to go running in. so the arms of your countries enemies. well, this is one of those stories that leave tariff, there is any up on the models and 9 with presidential ambitions who's been plotting and scheming to violently over the full vladimir putin and the term russia into the russian republic. with you crazed help for you. there's doing, i am convinced that only full fledged armed resistance can lead us to liberation. he's got a new constitution, are ready to go with a detail applied and armed. a battalion including terrorist and social media presence made up of the sponsor bloggers and during those past with spreading the word as well as the for and support. now, before we get into the details, let's get acquainted with the man himself. a former member of the russians, the 18 monroe and for his oppositional views, who then began actively supporting the cameras him and promoting its points of view

. and now here he is offering a $1000000.00 reward for fruits in his head, against ones who 20 to just sit in, pulls at pnc with a $1000000.00 in his pocket to spare, as well as well. it's a sizable and questionable assets which he managed to transfer a broad right before being stripped off his parliamentary community and found guilty of ceilings when c. 2000000 roubles from the school. couple foundation. well, he probably started coming, which is why who fled back in 2014, in search of greener pastures where course to the free, or he continued calling people as we're about to sit by this class action lawsuit against here we go. try those acquisitions core, which we establish in 2016. now the original plan was to win a 15 year oil and gas production contract in ukraine. so that, so you know,

$1000000000.00 bought. well, that was in the works, tried and marched with an american lot of a company and was eventually accused of fraud. when the americans failed, he went back to doing what he knows best prep again to work for the key of regime after all that ukrainian president himself have given him a passport back in 2019 for all his hard work. probably lead enough to that moments and to make sure he kept going. and he did. in fact, he pumped up several notches in poland. this time where he created a political movement called the congress of people's deputies, made up of like minded individuals, many of whom are former russian government officials living in europe. now this we're about to see, is there a declaration? and it's interesting how they say that for sure hasn't had fair election since 1993

at any level, yet they are likely to somehow legitimate because the parliamentary assembly of the council of view are upset. so. so everything and everyone is corrupt except one day quarter like that. and we should believe that's because you are obsessed. so no problem. i was own mother was also a government official. i thought so 2013. now that's before she fled with her husband. suppose in 2022, where he became a representative for his son, his new venture. that was the mother's election fair. if not, then what was she doing there? and how good government employee be able to afford properties in poland and cyprus . it's so very confusing and contradictory it's true patriots. what's the most of the best intentions? that hard health, 7 meetings in poland between 20222024 planning the russian republics

future with guests like these 2 who are members of ukraine security service. so couldn't make this stuff up even if new tried and what do they all want? a violent crew after that so that go into the space remote and get rid of everyone and everything. now, all of these are government structures, gong and the core of a brochure into a republic, and in order to achieve all of that, they needed. so for a spread the word recruit online soldiers, plant the seeds of frustration, and then bringing the troops, major fighters to seal the deal. in the beginning part of model, visa is user bands hologram channels where he invited other opposition to fingers. and experts simone about russia's current state of affairs. well february morning van expanded into regional channels across russia, where

a journalists were paid around $400.00 to sold pensions and play on people's frustrations. there were also open calls for violence and even instructions on how to make a model of clarksdale to form a local military recruitment centers. now rational authorities conducted rates. in other words, when c 5 regions and the rest of the several of these so called journalist son got off with an administrative fine alders were jailed, and more than 30 fled the country times to talk about the russian republics. future defense force is made up of me on the opposite terrorist and you, cranium madman, in the middle of his grand plan is to have a contingency. obviously, lensky is for legion. so be in charge of protecting his russia all of the future. they're a cold, this we russia legion. but when you hear their leaders speak, that sounds more like the cell rush on the greens or just send me

a display the just the phones ukraine now has a historic johns to influence its eastern neighbor to help the same. people come to power. who in principle, will close the issue of ukraine security forever? i believe that our legion will become such a force. it has to become such a false one. both, we must over throw the dictatorship carry out reforms in the country that would contribute to the establishment of true democracy. and then ukraine will be able to sleep peacefully. the hey, let's just say russia classifies the free russell agent as a terrorist organization along with our partners from the russian molten c o corps, and the national republican army. all of them are supposed to help free russia. the salesman is moving and this is work related to the resistance movement within russia and with those arm battalions that are fighting as part of the armed forces of ukraine against the forces of the aggressor. first of all, it is, of course, the freedom of russia, legion, or harris,

the man of the hour representing the national republican army as one of their ceremonies. he says so himself, my name is celia upon him or of we have already taught, and i will represent the national republican army at this ceremony. now let me remind you that this is the same group that he claimed to killed an innocent girl in russia that very same months should i'm but a slow. so yesterday we received a message with this manifesto which we announced today and were told to follow the news. they hinted at exactly where to follow and what exactly it would be about. we watched and indeed at about 10 o'clock, we received a message that this had happened. so po, it's, it is your able to get the word or over this and girl is just fine. and these are the kind of men who should be part of rushes in. the defense forces, according to the might of even the lead are all free. russian agent admits that some of the people in these battalions, a crazy fanatics,

liberty mindfulness is jumping. we understand that we have certain agreements, certain limits. there is, of course, a certain political pressure on us, you understand. but let's face it. i would like to speak, frankly with you behind the scenes. i hope that all the information that i will give you will remain between us. not everyone understands what a legion is. not everyone understands what the russian volunteer corps is, and even fewer people understand what a certain siberian battalion is. regarding the obviously, there is no need to build illusions, no need to place high hopes on them. these are the modules. these are modules for whom. i must say right away, i am russian. i am a nationalist. but i believe that russia is the people of russia absolutely equal. and the obvious, he sees russia as russia for russians in the 15th century and must go from muska bytes. cooperation with the vc will be a huge disadvantage for the congress in the future. what will the title say?

what was the basque is say, what was the variance and other peoples of our country say, seeing right wing nationalist in front of them to excuse me, act according to the principles of grandfather hitler. but no, no, there are graves and just the people of russia leave a quarter. and so this equations deputy, who attended one of those congress meetings in poland, the russian volunteer corps, the freedom of russia, legion, and all the other volunteers who are fighting against pollutants regime today or the future of russia. and i see your task is expanding, strengthening, and helping those who are ready to defend it with weapons in their hands. sounds like mission impossible, considering they can even agree on a single group or vision at this point. and that as a side from all the drama within the congress of people's deputies itself. so those who are called by russian authorities were immediately abandoned. some were dismissed by the congress itself. and then there was at least one who tried to take

over as we're about to see a woman called olga cornel silva. there she is. she attempted to take over back in november, accusing the mastermind over at all. mister, put them a roll of concealing funds and seizing power. all of that, congress will surprise surprise. and she is another russian american lover who went through us programs like open world and women leaders, flood russia and now result it's in poland. she is currently working on an alternative congress, and i'm sure it won't be the last because there are 4 main opposition movements outside of russia. and it's very clear that the leaders of all 4 have very big egos and emissions as well as for and help. most the share with you most on those really currently pon tomorrow's main efforts are focused on creating conditions for maximum popularization in front of american european sponsors in grand donors

headed by his government in exile at the same time. the main goal of the united pseudo deputies is the international recognition of the congress of people's deputies by the leaders of the countries belonging to the so called ramstein group in the states that support ukraine and provided with financial and military assistance. it's the fact that all this has been organized in poland. what on the forty's knows is which makes it so difficult for russia to ignore. poland is after all, and nato country. the lions has put limits or bases pretty much all around russia. and now there's a shadow, parliament planning a revolution right next door. it's unheard of. what cost would be should go? cuz every organization, every performer, as they say, has its own sponsors. but all of them are part of the european union, nato that is under the strict leadership of the united.