this was a trust 3030 of the british because done by new car, had been a 33 of the germans. and he was in the forefront and struggled on the cause. he had his compact troops, who i in the struggle at that time, people i could actually the co, our, the young, the oscar combine are on dogs is on what is instructed is that when the wave of independence sides fastest on thunder, nicole was going through the gain independence fast in 1900 on 62, while even when you it is talk to gilmore, can you also k on to a point on milton or bought a of you gunned on a backup with this and told them i'm prepared to delay the independence of done guys so that we can come together and gain independence at one country. cannot that if used for both the refused and

of course he proceeded with the tongue. you could be coming in defendant. and i, you are late when they met in i decided by and one only has to read is based on that date. in may of the 1963. you said we've come here not to remind ourselves of how important unity is. unity is important. and we also, it comes most unite of costs at that time on life concluded by it took the view that it should be a little gradual, but t apologize late. the 1997, but he was the person who believed in building a nation. and this is all you see when we talk about is lucas c 4, unit 2, in 190164, jointly with a shake, a beta cut who may create and what is now tons any with him as the president and

cut who may are the vice president of to this on divided pollution on the tools we are you nice thing here to show that even if some for so we must create one can on the thought go me. remember, there is a nice and color to sounds and the, there is no, but the color and tons and it is a duty to create that the bus and that is always taught and on the task of creating a tons and in this side, 1st of all, all of us are brad, those that is white tons and yet it's called themself. when do are you to times on? yeah. and that is all you became the same as when you moving from one part of the times and yet to the and telling them we must new as it gets to a healy, because the a 136 languages in terms of new. and today, ton sonya is the only country in the continent of africa. united by one language

gets to a healy tons and the is the only concrete off with where you are bone in ones. and you go to embed and become a member of by them and people did not look at you. i tried the only country enough and when in 196070 came with the we, gemma is said we must have a system. we have people in the villages so that we can industrialize you, of course, was undermined by the west. they did all, monro things discussed. they said, if he is up to scenes, is going to be a bad example to the people, but he continued and he took the view that the team must be strong on today as i speak. ccm. so much them up into the with was created in 1977 with the mazda of dano. and of course, you know, as he is, one of the strongest spots is enough, because on the, on a just,

he believed in order and institution. and this is the other thing that when we knew that it was famous for the member in your area and left the office when he was just slightly over 63 years. and he said, or who does must know when to leave the stage and to allow as, as to lead on these said, you are not successful until you are successful subsidies. when he left in 1985, he said, i'm going to insure and i wish if i'm able to leave, at least on the 2 presidents while my lives. i'll step aside then step down, i did the done the loud and we need to come in and ask them we need yeah loud. and we'll stop by to come in the all the time to settings account real quick what the weight weight you have time. we've come then of course john joseph from the 40 and we know this thought, this is a man who believed in the frontier died. remember in 1995,

when he was talking about the president that they needed at that time when corruption, dick and hoot intent on the you said we need a president tool. we'll do it to 3 good. 3 things. one president, where do you nice tongue. i need a president who will not talk about tribe and religion. that is the president that we need. we need a president or 5 corruption, a president who is solved vinnish. we need a president who is the humble who knows that the state house he is a holy place. he said in because to healy only more highly popped up. if this faith house is the only place when you go there, you a duty is the soft vinnish that is needed for you. i knew the tons i knew i had to industrialize back to industrialized through

a brief cultural production today when we see tons and the beginning to move in for the sufficiency busy of the 10 to 24th tons. o'neill is for a sufficient of 128 percent. one of the few countries enough because that includes stuff we should because of the foundation that more than we do just come. but i've been, you know, the late the font, the succession is from the, the 100 over the, but on from one generation to the other. he was upon us with an east. that is why the finance look on freedom movement organization by created by the way, you was headquartered in the still out. there is not a single off with on the day of the saw the region who did not stick refuge in tons a new because he said this is your home during this drug it do, i don't want a late. i was on be somewhat on my shell, scroll back to gabrielle and we'll go happy. all of them. well, how do? yeah, and how is this on school? is web build for them in dire salon?

uganda you waited a good time was 71 house. there he was upon us, look on his who believed in african unity. he believed in east african community, and that is why he was one of the pioneers here neglected, however, that he did not agree with the flume. on the 6th day of march, the 1997, when he was invited to a crowd gone to talk about the top of the deal vision of the 40 at the end of the city of gun as independence. he said, nicole, my was the right. we were wrong. we should have united africa immediately. and a reminder, these orders that we never talk about that particular meeting, the meeting in 1965 in a crowd gun. when the cool, my thought that there would be unity and a toward his audience. when i moved out of that meeting, i had some president say, we are happy if we, you, and nightly,

we seems been presidents on minutes does and all these things. but he said, we do go up, but we drove away the cologne or this. we know they are still here under the neo colonial project. but we are saying that is the duty of the next generation to fi to ensure that we have talked to the independence. but he was not only announced because he was also part of the non aligned to movement when the non aligned movement had been created with just the pros, detail with joe a lot of natural and of cost clement coma and put it in some kind know of indonesia, the younger generation who participated in strengthening the non aligned movement was of costs. judy has come, but i've given you that. and that is why he was the recipient of they don't want a lot of metal awarded by the india and the government because he was a believer in non alignment on the called the non aligned,

but positively neutral on that is why he said, you're not just going to look through the westwood development. i'm going to go to china. i'm going to go to russia. i'm going to go to sweden. i'm going to india because what? times and yeah. and africa needs a black nose who i g and he was also a globalist. that is why when he designed, he became the chairman of south south movement, where he was one of the pioneers was talking about ensuring the trans filed technology move from the north to this out. this is a man who was a great man. he was also wanting to lecture on the lumber because lady language and believed in the promotion of because lady language as a unifying language. people do not remember this, but he's the only man ever to of translate into ships. the input is like it is julia caesar, he translated as judy as the guys already. and of course the merchant of venice.

asthma but my defido of a nice. so he was also an intellectual who believes that if you are lead to, you must be a leader who writes and educate the people he was set for that us. he was not corrupt. you know, when, when we left office him on going to the west on was the one to, to find out if they had any money kept anywhere in the west of gold. and he had in his account the equivalent of $8000.00 united states dollars after being in power for 24 years old. and yet i had a yeah, the only 2 houses, one in dallas salon and a small one in with them. uh. and it is, depends on yeah, and i need that bill for him. uh, slightly big office. this is greatness personified. this is south less than this

bus 25. this is on of look on his bus certified judy has to come, but i've been here at a is a bus and who is in the one the of the great this off was going to need as well relieved. and one of is great as it corrects when he became a fish smoke. i remember you also update left office. he tried to be one of the be some, it goes in the boonies. it tried to make peace between one of the underwater and he was one of the people tried to make peace between the democratic republic of congo and wonder. he was one of the peacemakers between the water in 5 days during the golden civil war is one of the people to try for foothold the little bait to agostino nato. and you'll know some of the hate looked up seemed to gather. he was one of the people who ensured that the 1000 spots of south africa was liberated. and if you talk about him fondly in those parts of the wild, the understand busy,

bad ones know him, then was on because know him didn't. i'm indians know him. the young orleans know him, the south africans know him because he was a leader who gave or for purposes of the liberation. and ultimately, he was also, i teach, or i'll just show moves around the country and created a culture of humility amongst his people. so that today when you talk about who is that comes on in, the thing that comes to you attends onion is a humble mind. even when a police officer and tons and the wants to address you. they say, i request to address to that is judy has come better. okay. yeah. that a the money from this a not keep people in the i'm a a great 9 did. and then did history does remember fondly. it is not known. you as

a customer, luke, and as i speak to you now, there is a process of making him st and unity of because it makes judge. so thank you very much. we continue this discussion about africa, an office, and with a view to understanding the content. but let us take a short break. we've come back to continue the conversation, the,

[000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the i am theater remove from the wins the goals on country club in nairobi, k. yeah. talking about the continent of africa. there's great content in the tides agreed prospect. and the question, and indeed the questions that we ask about uh include uh, billet

t to be great. oh, great to then she is. we already know that when compositions held around the continent of africa, sometime it's the doubting thomases. paul is the question. he's been to africa to hit tedra genius or to walk to get the full. i general good is off because i divided i she is in too many post colonial nation not to divide that she can not realize a common vision to one. so that question i invite those who care about the continent that there is no shortage of them to read. i,