sion all i ever wanted to be was to be a pitch, but i found myself in this space and i have to fight to liberate my country. it was at that time that he was in the forefront of the creation of some great new offers the notion of the union time. and it was at a time when don, guy nick, at that time was a trust the 33 of the british. because done by nika had been a 33 of the germans. and he was in the forefront and struggle and of cause. he had his compact troops, who i in the struggle at that time, people i could actually to co, our, the young, the, or stuck on bone or on dogs is on what is instructed is that when the wave of independence sides fastest on tongue are nika was going through the gay not independence fast in 1900 on 62, while anyone yet is talk to gilmore. can you also get on to

a point on milton or both 2 of you, gund on a backup with this and told them i'm prepared to delay the independence that was done by you so that we can come together and gain independence. antoine con, kenyatta refused, or both the refused. and of course, he proceeded with the tongue that you could be coming in defendant. and i, you are late when they met in i decided by. and one only has to read is based on that date. in may of the 1963 you said we've come here not to remind ourselves of how important unity is. unity is important. and we also,

it comes most to night of cost at that time on like kind of glue my it took the view that it should be a little gradual, but t apologize late a $99.00 to $7.00. but he was the person who believed in building a nation. and this is all you see when we talk about is linda say for unit 2 in 1900, on 60 full jointly with the shake. i paid the cut who me the create and what is now tons any with him as the president and cut who may are the vice president of to this on divided pollution on these stores. but only we are uniting here to show the, even if songs with a we must create the one can on the told the government. remember, there is a know some color to sounds. a new, there is no, but the color and tons on in. it is a duty to create that the bus and that is always taught and on the task of creating a tons and in this side. first of all,

all of us are brad. those that is white tons, and yet it's called themself. when do, as you've told, turns on in this, that is how you became the same as, as when you moving from one part of the times and you have to the, i'm telling them we must new is just like really because the a $100.00 on that is 6 languages in terms of the year, and today, tanzania is the only country in the continental wasik. united by one language gets to a healy done zeniah is the only country now where you are born in ones and you go to them back and become a member of by them. and people did not look at you. i tried the only country enough and when in 196070 came with the we, gemma is said we must have a system. we have people in the villages so that we can industrialize you. of course it was undermined by the west. they did all, monro think this cause they said if he had such scenes is going to be

a bad example to the people, but he continued and he took the view that the pot team must be strong on today as i speak. ccm. so much i'm up into the with was created in 1977 with the module of done and up for a sheet. ozzy is one of the strongest spots easy enough to go with the on the, on the he believed in order and in institution. and this is the thing that when we knew that it was famous for the member in your area and left the office when he was just slightly over 63 years. and he said, a whole dunce must know when to leave the stage. and to allow as, as to lead on these said, you are not successful until you are successful, succeeds when he left in 1985. he said, i'm going to insure and i wish if i'm able to leave, at least on the 2 presidents while my lives step aside,

then step down. i did the done the loud and we need to come in and ask them we need . yeah, loud and we'll stop by to come in the all the time to settings account real quick. what the weight weight you have time with them. then of course john joseph from the 40 and we know this to, this is a man who believed in the find the item men by in 1995. when he was talking about the president that they needed at that time when, what option i picked and routing times, i knew you said we need a president tool. we'll do it to 3 good, 3 things. one president, where do you nice sounds like a president would not talk about the tribe and religion. that is the president that we need. we need a president or 5 corruption, a president who is solve the dish. we need a president who is

a humble who knows that this state house, he's a holy place, he said, and because what he needs to name a highly popped up. if this faith house is the only place when you go there, you are duty is the sobs vinnish that is needed for you. i knew the tons, i knew i had to industrialize back to industrialized through a brief comfortable production today when we see tons in the beginning to move in for the sufficiency. busy at the 10 to 24000. yeah. is for the sufficient 128 percent, one of the few countries in off because that is food stuff we shouldn't because of the foundation that more than we do just come. but i've been, you know, they, they, the fact the succession is from the, the hyundai low but the, but on from one generation to the other. he was up fine enough with an hist. that is why the fine off with the 3 don't use ment organization by created by the way

you was headquarter in the still out. there is not a single off with on the day, the solid, the region who did not stick refuge in tons a new because he said this is your home. during this drug, eduardo more lane. i was on be somewhat on my shell scroll, but the gotta be a little guy, be all of them. what house the on the houses on schools was billed for them in dire salon. uganda you waited a good time was 71 house. there he was upon us, look on his who believed in african unity. he believed in east african community, and that is why he was one of the pioneers. he regretted, however, that he did not agree with the gloom on the 6th day of march, the 1997. when he was invited to a crowd gone to talk about the top of the location of the 40 of the city of gunners independence. he said, nicole,

my was the right. we were wrong. we should have united africa immediately on the reminder, these orders that we never talk about that particular meeting, the meeting in 1965 in after a gun. when the cool, my thought that there would be unity i did toward his audience. when i moved out of that meeting, i had some president say, we a happy if we you and night the we seems been presidents on minutes does and all these things. but he said, we do go up, but we drove away the cologne or this. we know they are still here under the neo colonial project, but we are saying that is the duty of the next generation to fi to ensure that we have talked to the independence. but he was not only announced because he was also part of the non aligned to movement when the non aligned movement had been created with just the pros, detail with joe, a lot of natural and of course requirement room. and for this to kinda know of

indonesia, the younger generation who participated in strengthening the non aligned movement was of costs. judy has come, but i've given you that. and that is why he was the recipient of the joe. are a lot of nettle awarded by the india and the government because he was a believer in non alignment on the called the non aligned, but positively neutral on that is why he said we are not just going to look through the westwood development. i'm going to go to china. i'm going to go to russia. i'm going to go to sweden. i'm going to india because of what? tons and yeah, and africa needs. but those who i g and he was also a globalist. that is why when he designed, he became the chairman of south south movement, where he was one of the pioneers was talking about ensuring the trans filed technology moved from the north to this out. this is a man who was

a great man. he was also wanting to lecture on the a lot of that this lady language and believed in the promotion of because lady language as a unifying language. people do not remember this, but he's the only man ever to of translate into ships. the input is like it, julia sees it translated as judy as the guys already. and of course the merchant of venice. asthma, but my decided was a nice. so he was also an intellectual. who believes that if you are leader, you must be a leader who writes and educate the people he was set for that us. he was not corrupt. you know, when, when we left office him on the, going to the western world one to, to find out if they had any money kept anywhere in the west of gold and uh,

he had in his account the equivalent of $8000.00 united states dollars after being in fall off with 24 years old, and yet i had a yeah, the only 2 houses. one in the salon and a small one in with them. uh. and it is depends on yeah. and i need that built for him. uh, slightly big office. this is greatness personified. this is self less than most bus sony fide. this is bon, i've looked at his bus certified. julia come, but i've been here at a is a bus and who is in the one of the greatest off was going to need as well relieved . and one of is great as it corrects when he became a peacenik. i remember you also update your left office. he tried to be one of the be some, it goes into it tried to make peace between one of the under one the, he was one of the people tried to make peace between the democratic republic of

congo and wonder. he was one of the peacemakers between the water in 5 days during the golden civil war is one of the fit for tries to foretold the little bait to agostino nato. and you'll know some of the hate looked up seemed to gather. he was one of the people who ensured that this 1000 spots of south africa was liberated. and if you talk about him fondly in those parts of the while, the understand does involve one is know him, then was on, becomes know him, the medians. know him, the young orleans know him, the south africa know him because she was a leader who gave or full purposes of the liberation. and ultimately he was also, i can or i'll just show moves around the country and created a culture of humility amongst these people. so that today, when you talk about ways that turns on you,

and the thing that comes to you attends on in is a humble mind. even when a police officer and tons and the wants to address you. they say, i request to address to that is judy has come better. okay. yeah. that a the money from this or not keep people in the i'm a a great 9 in did. did history does remember him fondly. it is not known. you as a customer, luke, and as i speak to you now, there is a process of making him st and unity of the context. judge. thank you very much. we continue this discussion about africa and i've listened with a view to understanding the content. but let us take a short break. we've come back to continue the conversation, the,

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