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also interfere in the electoral campaign, harris versus a trump, i'd say big favor paris. so i, i really judge them as well. but i do think we should respect the summarize use of the kinds of ways. first of all, the 2nd thing is do we were, what do you, but what happened is, or goods? are you referring to j events insulting? yeah. your parts lack of free speech effect. yeah. and his speech at the munich security conference because you mentioned this, and it's true that, that she has a point on this because we have a lot of a freedom of press freedom of speech in the air in german society, especially in the last years we, we could observe that during the pandemic period, everyone who criticized in germany the measures which were very much evaluated by aligned to our human rights, all from them into rights,
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according to our constitution. they put them into a very, defend them as a, as a, as far right and so on. and now we do have an attack on freedom of speech, the freedom of gathering together and protests regarding israel because the unconditional support of the german government regarding uh the, the is randy elmore, in the gaza strip in sending weapons in, um, outing the military lead. but also in an economic and political way and the, the stop says on policies as this has such an outcome that everyone was criticizing the various tar white's extremist government alternate and yelling is right. and they say this is and to semitism. and this is the problem and in the german parliament, they talk bills and motions from the christian democrats,
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of social democrats, degree and deliberate, and even the less poppy in germany. we as the vase alliance, we were the only one who proposed his bills and motions. in this motions, it says that everyone has previous sizing. almost everyone is coach of sizing phase the way the government is an interest in it. and that's why we have to forbid their leg just at the universities. we have to parties, school people in the schools when they are criticizing these way and the government and also kept the funds of in theaters of actors and so on. so it is a very big attack on freedom of speech away and there's usually a towards elections of germany, sunday's elections in germany. you're the only policy who really respects free speech and a kind of american 1st amendment. well, unfortunately it is. so in november, last year end in february, this year,
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this part is past this bills and we say this is a very big attack on freedom of speech and also the freedom of science because it is an attack on the universities at the universities. and this is a, for example, the reason by francesca albany is i really do like it very much. i had her in the jam upon them and, and i gave her the put a possibility i will come to, to come and do the lecture in the german parliament. because i do believe that this is also a disrespect to the united nations. i mean, she's not anybody, she is a special rucker to all the united nations and every one was always saying and talking about the international uh or the international law has to respect the special regular to update the united nations from my perspective. but it's not happened in the week of the leading up to the elections. obviously,
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democracy only exists if there is free speech. all the elections in germany this week, fair given you don't have freedom of speech in germany. it is literally like j. d events, drums, vice president for say, as well i, i have to admit that we do have some problems with the german media as well. so because we have a more and more freaking spaces in the public regarding a mainstream versus a different opinions. but we have this in the last few years, not just a, it's a batch. actual situation regarding is way past the time. we had this 3 years, ongoing war against different opinions regarding the war and ukraine. every one who was in favor of negotiations stopped to kill the people. it doesn't
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matter. ukrainian or russian stopped the killings and the war and have peace. and usually everyone was defamed as primitive party brendan puppets. up to 2 assets and so on. and especially our property, because a b, s, w, a is out of boxes. your lives was founded. i mean, we split from the left party because they did leave all the positions on peace. and they were in favor about some of them, a weapon deliveries to your brit. and they waited and are still in fable sanctions against russia which are harming the german industry and the german people. but not the russian industry as we know. so we split because we, where from the beginning the only party were in favor of negotiations and to end the war and also against the need to expansion, which is the cause of this conflict. and i very welcome that the new president of
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the united states, stomachs from seas. this cause of this conflicts and says, there is no prospective of nature nature membership for you frame. will your foreign minister maybe not foreign minister next week? who knows? and then in a bad block. so she, a, previously, she said she wanted um, puts in on trial. suddenly off to donald trump said zalinski is a dictator for not having elections in ukraine. suddenly she said that actually these negotiations, peace negotiations initiated by trump may be useful. do you think it'll make any difference to this present to government at sunday's election? suddenly coming round to the idea after maybe, maybe a 1000000 have been killed in ukraine. suddenly realizing it's, it's okay to have peace stokes as well. we have to be careful. we have
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to see how it goes. because i mean, while russia and the west are negotiating and react in saudi arabia and also discussing about energy investments and some other, he cannot because they couldn't make exchangers, the european union, the european commission, the european member states included the german government. they now decided on a 16th package of sanctions against russia, why the negotiations are going to end this war. and also the united states said that they want to lift the sections the us tensions towards 20 russian bags. so i think it's just, you know, insanity in europe and brussels and bird, and i'm all over the place here in europe. we're seeing that they can run this war
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. uh, still uh, although, uh the, the us at once and this war. so we asked to be very careful on this. and the 2nd thing is, i mean in the same of babel, you can see that they are or victims of that, that relates to the united states. the united states has the best deals in europe in brussel, brussels. you know, i mean, the european commission is an agency of the hedge of one of the united states of the white house. they are just doing what the white house says, and it's the same with the driven, minnesota fine upstairs. i mean, i'm running a babel is the best german foreign minister, the united states as a head in one job and so. so that makes them as good victims because they followed 3 years the policy of joe biden, to militarily and economically,
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really in russia that was the goal of the bite and administration. now the administration changed the policy change, and now they are very opportunistic as you can see in changing the positions. and because they have to follow the hedge among the united states and that makes it very. busy difficult and dangerous for europe because we, as europeans, has to understand our interests. i'm not, let's say, like the interest on the united states. i mean, i am really glad and delighted that the new government wants to stop the war and the killing in the united states. because they did start this at the beginning in the, on the, in ukraine. but the problem is they want us to pay the bill of this us let the need to lead to war ukraine. this proxy will it gauge russia, they want us to pay the bill be because they want to focus on their main. and i mean, it gains china and this is the problem for us, europeans,
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as long as we follow the united states in our foreign and security policy, we will be full on the bus as we have seen in the past. for example, the, the ending of the war in a, in a scanner stop after 20 years. the u. s. americans, when they left a comma some they didn't even explore their allies, the sold allies because actually they do not want to advertise the west is just interested in vessels. as henry kissinger one stated, we don't have any of these. we don't have a friends, we just have interest 7 babbling. i'll stop you. the bull from germany, sorry about getting connected alliance. foreign policy spokesperson and officer of nato are reckoning with the atlantic alliance after the spring. the . the compass more on us
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than the most american politicians, is the one who was exposed, lies deceit and the caption, the american system also is the one who was willing to have a dialogue on issues can only be solved. you had to cease why them and them, at least you've started the process and he's towards the landscape. look at you and put boss your mandate. the, during the 2nd will pull underground power military organizations in poland, occupied by german troops, as well as in the bordering regions of bella. lewis were united into the so called home on a trip to the police, a center or the or the plasma to say is because i use a full screen time list. but putting the front of it is, i say, considering the shift some of the through the sexual shy stick of the who mom
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a was the main organization that the poet issue was. systems fighting against gym and occupation and soviet rule. others dominion army currently away 1920 the little ship. boy shop. really unfair boys folks. i didn't use i'm just going to put those on anything unusual this, you know, that's what i was the home on a county down operations to destroy the nazis. but then switch to settling schools with soviet pa designs and the civilian population that supported them. they have nearby se automatic or are you ready to destroy your customers any today? well, i've been in the new dave, i bought it from my goal is to be able to get product is on the new process that's pretty liberal in the event or just the booklet is devali. 60 those up levels to boys, boys, team. when you go to you, belittle soonest deal of when you have no need. so for us, as jim sydney, we generally look for you simulated treat you most of the
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the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with a member of the german going to chicago, other of nato, a reckoning with the atlantic align 7 dental, and the 7 at the end of 51, you were talking about the vast selection of european states. i do want to get onto your amazing book nato, as a reckoning with the atlantic alliance. you were referring earlier to, i suppose, the lack of education in your, of about how they are about so states. and in your book, you refer to something called cognitive warfare. i know ahead of tomorrow's elections in germany. you have the amazing media concentration. of course, thanks to trump in, in on must, can we no, no, the, the, we don't know the links to actual springer in bertelsmann to inside the, the state department. there beings all sorts of allegations. now for me, on most of the development of government deficiency, what is cognitive wolf areas outlined in your latest book?
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as you know, we know we do have 3 moves of a as in a tool. this is austin, a tool where it defines itself as an alliance of defense of international, of values and of democracies. and this is something i was trying to construct in the book, but also at the, you know, in, in, in our time, wars are not just one by minute category in the country where the words taken over . but also in the homeland you have to win the ads and the how old the people for doing this war. and that's why natal, for example, has this college in, in room in italy and as they are, they, they are planning, organizing and networking holiday,
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trying to, to, to attack the heads of the people and the half of the people to, to win them for the war you know, our a friend, our common friend, julia and i saw the journalist once as stated that people do not have one more. it's just the media when stamps, because of lice, air force, and to promote the wars and, and this is the, the aim of the, of the comparative war and of a concept of the need to, they try to have a network of lectures at the universities of things sayings or media or, and trying to help the narrative, like we do have actually in germany you, for example, i just want to tell you, in uh, since 2 years time, they're always in the mainstream media trying to impose the people that russia is
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a threat and russia is going to attack x, the natal country, germany, and in the 4 years time, for example, the defense ministers is saying and all the image lenses of the nature. and trying to put this narrative into the heads of the people. and as you can see, according to pools of people believes this narrative of the military and the military um, expenses of the, of the natal stage, only in europe, all 480000000000. and a whole bunch of, of the, the national budget of russia is 400000000000. so there's no point that a russia could be, they telling me, you know, be a threat to the nate, to a member states in europe or to the whole nature. but they tried to put this into the hat, and that's the problem of the mainstream media was really very much in the hands of this native narratives, except the incentives to john slo sholtes, even he said,
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guess dom or britain's id or offending in thousands of european troops to attack russia after the trump peace plan goes into action. he didn't like that idea a tool. so presumably in germany, the idea of sending german soldiers into ukraine is not a, not an option. the mines in germany and not as controlled as they are in britain to well, i mean, we know that the britons very much more aggressive. we have seen this was this, i believe a piece of pregnant is the worst johnson and in the spring 2022. when he and the united states of, of us administration of biden, at talking to the peace negotiations between workshop and a and ukraine. and it's stumbled, for example, because they don't care about lice and human beings, and they just care about their own uh, interest. it gave russia and about the problem is with sending troops. so our
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experience with the german chancellor is ad that he says something and then later on he forgets what you say. so he had the levels of, of, he has an end this year. that's a political trouble of, of him. and i do believe that they are waiting till the elections, the national elections on the 23rd of february. because we had this discussion before a few months ago. it was a, it, it's a cute that, that they are thinking in uh behind the scenes about sending german troops on euclidean solo to the border of russia. if there is a seas fine ones in between russia and ukraine, and this was now miss that headset. the defense municipal of united states. he said that in this speech, in a munich, and this is a very boy, isn't always and a proposal because it's, it's from my point of view,
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it's a disaster. if we were to happen because the board is almost 2000 kilometers and which has to be watched out with the troops that and the time was 50 or 200000 troops has to be there. and i mean, regarding our german history, it would say it would mean that sending german troops to watch this a ceasefire. and if the ceasefire is um, is broken, german troops would be getting war against russia and they would shoot to russian soldiers. i mean, we have the history of the 2nd world war where we, uh, attacked russia and a rush of the soviet union. we attacked of so we're doing it and they liberated at the europe from driven fascism. so i can't believe that something like this would
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have then, and that's why, maybe they hesitating at the moment, but we don't know what they are going to do. because as what do we know is that the german government, and it doesn't matter which party is this morning, they are vessels of the united states. and if the united states wants them to send the troops, i believe that they going to do this. and this will be very, very, a disaster. the video link keeps going down. i don't know whether that's your german government already tried to send to this conversation. who knows, except of course, if they are a vassal state, they should the baby or the new or does from donald trump. uh, give me their, if their boss is or washington, i suppose the point is you're saying it's a kind of deep state in washington, not donald trump, clearly or lieutenant colonel to say, god, but in your book you talk about the constant, the stabilization of europe,
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since the 2nd world war, you mentioned it to lee, i don't know whether a prime minister maloney will close down the nato defense college you write about in the book. just remind us as we come to an end here, how many sold us soldiers are occupying germany right now and what tomorrow's election mean for ramstein base groundwater base, heidelberg spending, the you'll country is full of what a 100000 united states soldiers. okay. wow. i prefer they could go on the trump of course. well officially we do have 40000. uh, yeah. on gym. and so, and us troops and, but we do have a in europe. uh, officially more than 100000 and, and the, uh, the new administration off from they announced that they going to pull back a 20000 so they some going to leave a 2000. but the better actually, uh, the problem is, of all the bases, you know, we do have a physical basis. i mean,
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it's a german, that the federal republic of germany is actually at tough area all the united states army. when you see the, the map of the, of the basis, you not only need the base is also the c i a with that as so violence, the mass. so violence. yeah. and the drone strikes with the really station on the outside basis, for example. so it's much more than just the truth. i do believe we don't need this us troops. our position of the vodka headlines is that they should pull out there. so just as sent them back home to the united states and take with them that was a nuclear booms which are still on german. saw here officially just 20, but who knows? because the german government is not silver enough to control their own gym. and so
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what's going on here on jim? so not so we don't know if this is true with a tricky nuclear bombs, but i would, i mean, we'll come if they would leave. but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have good relations to the super poly united states, i believe. and my part you me to believe that we do need good relations to super policy and the upcoming powers. i mean, that means to russia to try now, to united states, but also to brazil, to india, to south africa, to indonesia. we'd need good relations because of our geographic situation in europe and a, and we do need a policy of goods make it look good with russia. you know, you can change the geography a russia is top of europe and will be part of europe in the future. and that's why we believe we need a new policy european, secure, which in foreign policy we're just summarizing which is independent from the united
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states. so we don't need the troops, but we just want to have good relation to all the powers which i want to give you is the trump policy just behind really for us, this is our of i can connect the lives just finally remind us. and this will be the issue upon which the election will be one of the different members of parliament on sunday, described the amount of poverty that is effecting a germany the north stream pipeline destroyed by the c. i a under joe biden, affecting energy supplies, causing inflation in your country. and how much more prosperous can germany be and more equal a country? can it be if it, if it takes on your policies, are the sorry, well, i can connect alliance. just let me uh tell you. oh, once thing before, um because you said uh the is the trump administration option? yes. but we see the trumpet installation very diverse. i mean, we are well coming that you wants to end the war, but we know he is not
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a piece. a piece of angel. he is not a pacifist, that he wants to a stop all the worse, all or going worse. and he wants to concentrate on his main enemy, china and our 2nd largest economy partner trade talk now. and he wants us to follow him. and this is something which is very dangerous because we stopped the economics trade relations with russia, which, which was one of the causes of the german prosperity because of cheap energy. and now we're going to do the same mistake and get fruit form of the complication policy of the united states against china, our 2nd largest trade partner. and we also see that trump is going to make it at the cleansing in the gaza strip a case the police did. and which is a violation of international law. it's a, it's a, it's
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a violation against humanity. and we have to stop this o. c of the united states. well, i was the, i think we, we handed the good luck tomorrow. good luck on sunday. thank you very much, 7, that a. thank you. that's it for the show. and nato, a reckoning with the logic alliance is out. now we'll be back on monday with the mand tip, a loan must can be the next boss. i'll be us scheduled was a veteran. congressman fuller presidential candidate, and libertarian. i go and dumped around, pulled until then he would. that's why will i social media, if it's nonsense and your country and here's what channels are you on the run tv, on ramble dot com to let you know that besides going underground scene monday, the th,
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media and the nightly news, reciting, clean developed scripts that essentially say exactly the same thing using the buzz words of this is a threat to our democracy. when you see 10 different channels. exactly, that sentence, you know, that it's the central intelligence agency script. the role of p r firms in ukraine, throughout europe into united states really can be overstated. it's quite different and it wasn't previous decades where there used to be more of a culver role of propaganda, government propaganda operations. now this is just celebrated as p r in helping ukraine and helping get their message out to us because who's pulling the strings and who is profiting the the,
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