or i didn't get any of tons and the when history is written, all african great. why do you more as he was formerly known, will stand out found out because he was humility, personified. when he was asked at one time, are you up with a dish? and he said, i'm reluctant for the dish and all i ever wanted to be was to be a pitch. but i found myself in this space and i have to fight to liberate my country. it was at that time that he was in the forefront of the creation of some great new offers the nation in union time. and it was at a time when don guy nick, at that time, was a trust the 33 of the british because tongue nika had been at 33 of the germans.

and he was in the forefront and struggled on the cause. he had his compact to have so i in the struggle at that time, people like that. i see the co, our, the young, the oscar, come born on dogs is on what is instructive is that when the wave of independence sides fastest on thunder nichol was going through the gay 9 independence fast in 1900. on 62, while anyone yet is talk to gilmore can you also can on to a point on milton or both of you gunned on come back with this and told them i'm prepared to delay the independence of somebody so that we can come together and gain independence at one country cannot that refused for both the refused. and of course, he proceeded with the tongue i knew could be coming independent. and i,

year late uh when they met in i decided by and one only has to read is based on that date. in may of the 1963. you said we've come here not to remind ourselves of how important unity is. unity is important. and we also comes must unite of costs at that time on life couldn't go to my it took the view that it should be a little gradual, but he apologized late. a 99 to 7. but he was a person who believed in building a nation. and this is all you see when we talk about is legacy for unity in 1900. on 60 full jain play with the shake, a baby to come to me the created. what is now times any with him as the president and cuddled me? i the vice president of to this on divided produce on the thought was cut only. we

are you nice thing here to show the even if don't recall, we must create one come on the told go me. remember, there is a nurse and color to sounds and the there is no but the color and tons and it is a duty to create that for us. and that is always taught and on the task of creating tons and in this side. first of all, all of us are brad, those. that is why tons, indians, quote themself. when do or you told tons onions, that is all you became the same as, as when you moving from one part of the times a near to the and telling them we must new is because to healy. because the a 100 on that is 6 languages in terms of new and today. ton sonya is the only country in the continent of africa. united by one language gets to a healy tons and the is the only concrete off with the way you are born in ones.

and you go to embed and become a member of by them. and people did not look at you at the right. the only country enough and when in 196070 came with the we gemma, he said we must have a system. we have people in the villages so that we've got the industrialized. you of course was undermined by the west. they did all mangrove things discussed. this said, if he is up to scenes, is going to be a bad example to the people. but he continued, and he took the view that the team must be strong on today. as i speak, see, have somebody come up into the with was created in 1977 with the module of ton of the sheet. ozzy is one of the strongest spots easy enough to go with the on the, on a he believed in order and in institution. and this is the as a thing that when you're that it was famous for

a member in your area and left office when he was just slightly over 63 years. and he said, a good dunce must know when to leave the stage. and to allow as, as to lead on these said, you are not successful until you are successful, succeeds when he left in 1985. he said, i'm going to insure and i wish that i'm able to leave at least on the 2 presidents . while my lies, i'll step aside, then step down, i did the done the loud and we need to come in and after we yeah loud, we'll stop by to come in the all the time with things have kind of reached okay, what the weight weight you have time we've come, then of course john joseph ponder muggle 40 and we know this to this is a man who believe in the find the item. remember a 1995 when he was talking about the president that they needed at that time when corruption at that and who intends on the you said, we need

a president tool will do it to 3 good. 3 things. one president, where do you nice? sounds like a president will not talk about tribe and religion. that is the president that we need. we need a president where to fight corruption. a president who is solve the dish. we need the president with the humble who knows that the state house, he's the only place he said, and cuz i really want to name a highly fucked up. if this faith house is the only place when you go there, you a duty is the soft vinnish that is new there for you. i knew the times i knew i had to industrialize, but to industrialize through a brief comfortable production. today when we see tons and the beginning to move in for the sufficiency busy of the 10 to 24 tons of new york is for

a sufficient at 128 percent. one of the few countries in off because i didn't flip stuff we should because of the foundation that morning. we do this company, i've been, you know, they, they bought the succession is from the, the hyundai love of the, but on from one generation to the other. he was upon us with an hist. that is why the fine off with on freedom of movement organization by created by the way, you was headquartered in the still out there is not a single off with the need and the solve. the reason who did not stick refuge in tons and yeah, because he said this is your home during this drug it do, i don't want a late. i was on be somewhat on my shell, scroll back to gabrielle and we'll go ahead be all of them. well, how's the on, how is this on? scores was billed for them in dire salon. uganda you waited a good time, was 71 house. there. he was

a fine off workers who believed in african unity. he believed in his topic and community. and that is why he was one of the pioneers. he regretted, however, that he did not agree with the improvement on the 6th day of march, the 1997. when he was invited to a crowd gone to talk about the top of the location of the 40th anniversary of gunner's independence. he said, nicole, my was the right. we were wrong. we should have united africa immediately. and a reminder, these or it is that we never talk about that particular meeting, the meeting in 1965 in a crowd gun when the coma thought that they would be unity. and they told her to his audience. when i moved out of that meeting, i had some presidency via if we you and nightly, we seems been presidents on minutes does and all these things. but he said, we do go up, but we drove away the cologne or this. we know the still here under the neo

colonial project, but we are saying that is the duty of the next generation to fi to ensure that we have talked to the independence. but he was not only and also because he was also part of the non aligned to movement when the non aligned movement had been created with just the pros, detail with joe, a lot of natural and of course requirement kareema and presidents to kinda know of indonesia the younger generation who participated in strengthening the non aligned movement was of costs. judy has come back in your area and that is why he was the recipient of the joe. are a lot of nettle award by the, in the under government because he was a believer in non alignment on the called the non a line the but positively neutral on that is why he said, you're not just going to look through the west for development. i'm going to go to

china. i'm going to go to russia. i'm going to go to sweden. i'm going to india because what? times and yeah. and africa needs. but those who i jin with. he was also a globalist. that is why when he designed, he became the chairman of south south movement, where he was one of the pioneers was talking about insuring the trunk file. acknowledge you moved from the north to the south. this is a man who was a great man. he was also wanting to left you on the lot of it this lady language and believed in the promotion of because lady language as a unifying language. people do not remember this, but he's the only man ever to of translate into ships. yeah. into cuz what it is, julia sees it translated as judy as the guys already and of course the merchant of venice. asthma, but my big 5 of a nice. so he was also on in the lift. who believe the, if you are lead to,

you must be a leader who writes and educate the people he was set for the us. he was not corrupt, you know, when, when we left office him on going to the western world one to, to find out if they had any money kept anywhere in the west of cone. and he had in his account the equivalent of $8000.00 united states dollars after being in power for 24 years old. and yet i had a, yeah, the only 2 houses, one in the salon and a small one in with them. uh. and it is, depends on yeah, and i mean that's built for him. a slightly big office. this is great. and this personified, this is self. that's the missed the bus $25.00. this is fun of the countries in bus certified. judy has come, but i've been here today is

a bus and who is in the one the of the great this off was going to be does will lead on one of is great as it corrects when he became a peacenik. i remember you also update left office. he tried to be one of the basement because, you know, he tried to make peace between one of the under one the. he was one of the people tried to make peace between the democratic republic of congo and wonder. he was one of the peacemakers between the watering font is getting their own goal and civil war is one of the people tried to put towards the little bait to a good deal. no nato, on your not somebody a list of him get together. he was one of the people who ensured that the solids and spots of south africa was liberated. and if you talk about him funded in those parts of the wild, the understand this even by one is know him then was on becomes know him, then i'm indians. know him, the young orleans know him,

the south africans know him because he was a leader who gave or for purposes of the liberation. and ultimately, he was also, i can just show moves around the country and created a culture of humility amongst these people. so that today, when you talk about ways that tons on you and the thing that comes to you attends on in is a humble mind. even when a police officer and tons and the wants to address you. they say, i request to address to that is judy has come, but i'll get you to the money from. does not keep people in the i'm a, a great 9 in that and then did history. does that remember him fondly? it is not known. you as a customer, luke, and as i speak to you now, there is

a process of making him st and unity of because it makes judge. thank you very much. we continue this discussion about africa and office and with a view to understanding the my, the content. but let us take a short break. we've come back to continue the conversation the the, [000:00:00;00]

the, i am theater. remember from the, with the goals on country club in nairobi, k. yeah. talking about the continent of africa. there's great content and that has a great prospect on the question. and indeed the question that we ask about uh, include uh, billet t to be great. oh, great to then she is. we already know that when conversations held around the continent of africa, sometime it's the doubting thomases. paul is the question. he's been to africa to hit tedra genius to walk to get the full. i general good is off because i divided the she is