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response preventing these railings from achieving that goal in july, when that sort of spoke and never didn't seem to grind to a halt, people gathering around television set. so listening carefully to every what the bike support his anatomy is what he said, mounted it, mounted to the mechanic, the newest, the street clean up. it's also have mounted to the lebanese government and to world leaders. and i found it was killed here in the southern suburbs in september 2024 by us, supplied bunker, busting palm. he died among his people who said that his multitude was the ultimate sacrifice for the people of gaza and also the people of lebanon. some of the house on those were law was not just the general secretary for us. he has always been a spiritual father. the idea of resistance is embodied in him as a man who had become a father to all of us. a funeral on sunday is not a farewell to an ordinary person, but a confirmation that the idea of resistance will live forever. natural law lives in our hearts, and this will be reflected in the number of people who will follow his left path.
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if he's not just a person, he is a terminal because his idea is embodied in resistance and this idea will never disappear. and that's just not. our participation on sunday confirms that despite all the destruction and loss of natural law, we still support the resistance. we will not give it up, no matter the prices say, resistance is an idea, and an idea does not dying look only defeat or is taking place 5 months off to his desk. during that time is ro remain determined to destroy his body, but it was safely called it on sunday side house on the front. it will be very easy to find a resting place not far from here, but he will live on forever. the piece is this, the so you need to stay with us here on our to international have next done going underground option with tom saying his guest discussed the insanity in europe as trump tries to bring an end to the front seat for the
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the i'm actually 100 times in. welcome to going undergrad, broke of single around the world, from the eyes of a middle east that hosted peace talks the good finally in the nature of proxy war and russia through ukraine and of a world war 3. donald trump said afterwards that ukraine should never have started the war. predictably the response from european the leads ahead of elections in its most powerful economy. germany tomorrow has been panic. chaos and the re evaluation of the spaces says that trapeze of washington. since the end of the 2nd world war and the formation of nato, trump's vice president j. d von some,
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your lack of freedom to incorporate attention from european nature members at the munich security conference. so i guess some of the british prime minister and persecutor of julian assange immediately proposed sending thousands of u. k. soldiers to fight for russia. this is, it was revealed, the 3 to 4 of the elderly in britain cannot afford to heat the homes. it has truly b, nato, a reckoning with the atlantic alliance. and that's the view title of the new book by a member of the you haven't been to shag and foreign policies folks present for the sorry to bug and collect alliance 7 dads and then she joins me again from balance. 7, thanks so much for coming on before i even get to your book into a piece in our time perhaps. but a real piece. uh, what happened as regards uh, francesco, been a z u and special rep. what you are on palestine. she was in germany. i understand you, you met her as regards the u. k. you as you um, genocide and gaza or yeah, and i mean, you know, in
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a sense, of course, what gage events did as a vice president of the united states is in his hearing and 2 of the interior affairs of germany and disrespected. the serenity of the federal republic of germany, of course, the german government, the actual one at the former, once they did it also interfere in the electoral campaign. harris versus a trump. i'd say they say the power so i, i really judge them as well. but i do think we should respect the so right use of the country is 1st of all, the 2nd thing is jean. we were what do you? but what happened is, are gods, are you referring to j d months insulting? yeah. your parts, lack of free speech effect. yeah. and his speech at the munich security conference because you mentioned this and it's true that did. she has
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a point on this because we have um, a level of freedom of press. freedom of speech in the, in german society, especially in the last years we, we could observe that during the pandemic period, everyone who criticized in germany the measures which were very much evaluated by aligned to our human rights, all of them into rights, according to our constitution, they put them into a very, defend them as a, as a, as far right and so on. and now we do have an attack on freedom of speech, the freedom of gathering together and protest regarding israel because the unconditional support of the german government regarding the the is randy elmore, in the gaza strip in sending weapons and helping them militarily. but also in
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an economic and political way him and his own bachelor, the stop says on the policy. this has such an outcome that everyone who is criticizing the various tom whites extremist. a government of nathaniel boeing is what you base say. this is interesting. my to them, and this is the problem and in the general call them and they talk bills and motions of from the question, democrats of social democrats, the green, the liberals, and even the less pop in germany we as the bypass alliance, we were the only one who proposed his bills and motions in this motions, it says that everyone has previous sizing, almost everyone has put a sizing phase way. the government has an interest in it, and that's why we have to forbids they ask leg. just at the universities, we have to parties, school people in the schools when they are criticizing these way in the government and also come to funds of in theaters of actors and so on. so
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it is a very big attack on freedom of speech away and there's usually a tomorrow's elections of germany sundays elections in germany. you're the only policy who really respects free speech and a kind of american 1st amendment as well. uh, unfortunately it is so in november, last year end in uh, february this year, this part is past this bills and uh, we say this is a very big attack on freedom of speech and also the freedom of science because it is an attack on the universities at the universities, and this is a, for example, the reason by francesca albany is i really do like it very much. i had her in the gem upon them and, and i gave her the put a possibility i will come to, to come and do the lecture in the german parliament because i do believe that this
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is also a disrespect to the united nations. i mean, she's not anybody, she is a special rucker to all the united nations. and every one who's always saying and talking about the international uh, or the international law has to respect the special rather to update the united nations from my perspective. but if that happened in the week of the leading up to the elections, obviously democracy only exists if there is free speech. all the elections in germany this week, fair given you don't have freedom of speech in germany. it is literally like j. d events, drums, vice president for say, as well i, i have to admit that we do have some problems with the german media as well. so because we have a more and more freaking spaces in the public regarding a mainstream versus
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a different opinions. but we had this in the last last year is not just a, it's a batch. actual situation regarding is way past the time. we had this 3 years, ongoing war against different opinions regarding the war and ukraine. every one who was in favor of negotiations stopped to kill the people. it doesn't matter. ukrainians or wash hands, stop the killings and the war a and to have peace. and you play in every one of those defend as primitive party brendan puppets, punitive assets. and so on and especially, oh, apache, because a b, s, w, a is out of boxes. your lives was founded. i mean, we split from the left party because they did leave all the positions on peace and they were in favor about some of them of what the delivery is to your brit. and
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they went in and are still in favor of sanctions against russia, which are harming the german industry. and the german people button up the russian industry as we know. so we split because we, where from the beginning the only party were in favor of negotiations and to end the war. and also it gains to me to expansion, which is the cause of this conflict. and i very welcome that the new president of the united states, stomachs from seas this cause of this complex and say, there's no prospective of nature nature membership for you frame. will your foreign minister maybe not foreign minister next week? who knows? and then lena bear block, she, so she a previously, she said she wanted um, puts in on trial. suddenly off to donald trump said zalinski is a dictator for not having elections in ukraine. suddenly she said that actually
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these negotiations based negotiations initiated by trump may be useful. do you think it'll make any difference to this present to government at sunday's election? suddenly coming round to the idea after maybe, maybe a 1000000 have been killed in ukraine. suddenly realizing it's, it's okay to have peace folks as well. we have to be careful, we have to see how it goes. because i mean, while russia and the west are negotiating and react in saudi arabia and also discussing about energy investments and some other economical, economic exchanges. the european union, the european commission, the european member states, included the german government. they now decided on the 16th
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package of tensions against the worship. why the negotiations are going on to end this war. and also the united states said that they want to lift the sanctions, the us tensions towards the 20 russian bank. so i think it's just, you know, insanity in europe, in brussels and burden on all over the place here in europe. was saying that they can run this war. uh, still, uh, although, uh, the, the us wants to end this war. so we have to be very careful on this. and the 2nd thing is, i mean, in the same of babel, you can see that they are or victims of their best relates to the united states. the united states has the best deals in europe in brussel, brussels. you know, i mean, the european commission is an agency of the heads up on of the united states of the white house. they are just doing what the white house says, and it's
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a same with the german, minnesota. fine affairs. i mean, i mean i babble is the best german foreign minister, the united states as a head in one job and so, so that makes them as the victims because they followed 3 years. the policy well joe biden, to militarily and economically, really in russia that was the goal of the bible and administration. now the administration changed the policy change, and now they are very opportunistic as you can see in changing the positions. and because they have to follow the hedge among the united states and, and that makes it very difficult and dangerous for europe because we, as europeans, has to understand our interests, let's say, like the interest on the united states. i mean, i am really glad and delighted that the new government wants to stop the war and
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the killing in the united states because they did start this at this beginning in the, on the, in ukraine. but the problem is they want us to pay the bill of this us let the need to lead to war ukraine destructive war against russia. they want us to pay the bill be because they want to focus on their main. and i mean, it gains china and this is the problem for us, europeans, as long as we follow the united states in our foreign and security policy, we will be full on the bus as we have seen in the past. for example, the, the, the ending of the war in, in afghanistan, after 20 years, the u. s. americans, when they left a comma, some baby didn't even explore their allies, the so called allies. because actually they do not want the allies. the west has just interested in decimals. as henry kissinger one stated, we don't have enemies,
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we don't have a friends. we just have interest 7 babbling. i'll stop you. the bull from germany, sorry about getting connex alliance foreign policy spokesperson and officer of nato . a reckoning with the atlantic alliance after the spring, the, the, the if you think about russia, what is your mind to picture the landscape open up before your eyes? the last one does, can you imagine the
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veto? scott starts the journey, the, the you ready to come along the welcome back to go to the garden. i'm still here with a member of the german going to shag, an order of nato, a reckoning with the atlantic alliance of im dental, and sell them. at the end of $51.00, you were talking about the vast selection of europe in the states. i do want to get onto your amazing book nato, as a reckoning with the atlantic alliance. you were referring earlier to, i suppose, the lack of education in your, of about how they are about so states. and in your book, you refer to something called cognitive warfare. i know ahead of tomorrow's elections in germany. you have the amazing media concentration. of course, thanks to trump in, in, on must green. no, no the the, we don't know the links to actual spring or in bertelsmann to inside the,
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the state department. there are beings also to of allegations now for me on most of the development of government deficiency. what is cognitive wolf areas outlined in your latest book? as you know, we know we do have 3 moves of a as an a tool to make this austin a tool where it defines itself as an alliance of defense of the international move of values and of democracies. and this is something i was trying to construct in the book, but also at the, you know, in, in, in our time, wars are not just one by militarily in the country where the worst taken over. but also in the homeland you have to win the ads and the how the people for doing this war. and that's why natal, for example, has this college in,
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in room in italy. and as they are, they, they are planning, organizing and networking holiday, trying to, to, to, to attack the heads of the people and the half of the people to, to win them for the war. you know, our friend, our common friend julia and i saw the journalist once as stated that people do not have one more. it's just the media when stamps, because of lice, air force, and, and to promote the wars and, and this is the, the aim of the, of the cognitive war and of a concept of the need to, they try to have a network of lectures at the universities of things, sayings of media are and trying to help the narrative,
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like we do have actually in germany, for example, i just want to tell you in uh, since 2 years time, they're always in the mainstream media trying to impose the people that russia is a threat and russia is going to attack x, the natal country, germany, and in the 4 years time, for example, the defense ministers is saying and all the ins, lenses of the nature. and trying to put this narrative into the heads of the people . and as you can see, according to pools, little people believes this narrative of the military and the military um, expenses of the, of the natal stage, only in europe, all 480000000000. and the whole budget of the, the national budget of russia is 400000000000. so there's no point that a russia could meet or tell or leave, you know, be a threat to the nate, to
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a member states in europe or to the whole nature. but they tried to put this into the head, and that's the problem of the mainstream media. was really very much in the hands of this native narratives. except the in fan is to chancellor sholtes, even he said, guess tom or of britain's id or of sending in thousands of european troops to attack russia after the trump peace plan goes into action. he didn't like that idea a tool. so presumably in germany, the idea of sending german soldiers into ukraine is not a, not an option the mines in germany and not as controlled as they are in britain to . well, i mean, we know that the britons very much more aggressive. we have seen this was this uh, actually a piece of pregnant is the worst johnson in the spring 2022 when he and the united states of, of us administration of biden,
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at talking to the peace negotiations between workshop and a and ukraine. and it's stumbled, for example, because they don't care about lives and human beings, and they just care about their own uh, interest. it gave russia and about the problem is with sending troops. so our experience with the german chancellor is ad that he says something and then later on he forget what you said. so he had a levels of, of he has and this year that's the political trouble of, of him. and i do believe that they'll wait until the elections, the national elections on the 23rd of february, because we had this discussion before a few months ago. it was a, it, it's a cute that, that they are thinking in uh behind the scenes about sending german troops on euclid installed to the border of russia. if there is
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a seas fine ones in between russia and ukraine, and this was now missed that headset. the defense municipal united states, he said that in this speech, in a munich, and this is a very or isn't always and a proposal because it's, uh, it's from my point of view. it's a disaster. if we were to happen because the board is almost 2000 kilometers and which has to be watched out with the troops that and the time it's 50 or 200000 troops has to be there. and i mean, regarding our german history, it would say it would mean that sending german troops to watch this a ceasefire. and if the ceasefire is um, is broken, german troops would be being worked against russia and they would shoot to russian soldiers. i mean, we have the history of the 2nd world war where we,
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uh, attacked russia and a rush of the soviet union we attacked of. so if you're doing an end date leverage at the europe from a driven fascism. so i can't believe that something like this would have them, and that's why maybe they hesitating at the moment, but we don't know what they're going to do because as what do we know is that the german government and it doesn't matter which party is this morning, they are vessels for the united states, and if the united states one step to send the troops, i believe that they going to do this. and this will be very, very, a disaster. the video link keeps going down. i don't know whether that's your german government already tried to send to this conversation. who knows? except of course, if they are a vassal state they should the baby or the new or does from donald trump. uh, give me their, if their boss is or washington,
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i suppose the point is you're saying it's a kind of deep state in washington, not donald trump, clearly or lieutenant colonel to say, god, but in your book you talk about them constant, the stabilization of europe, since the 2nd world war, you mentioned it to lee, i don't know whether a prime minister maloney will close down the nato defense college you write about in the book. just remind us as we come to an end here, how many sold us soldiers are occupying germany right now and what tomorrow's election mean for rams? teen base groundwater base. heidelberg, spangler, your country is full of what a 100000 united states soldiers. okay. wow. i prefer they could go on to trump of course. well officially we do have 40000. uh, yeah. on gym and so, and us troops and, but we do have uh uh, in europe. uh, officially more than 100000 and, and the, uh, the new administration of,
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from they announced that they going to pull back a 20000 so they some going to leave a 2000. but the better actually, uh, the problem is, of all the bases, you know, we do have a basis. i mean, it's a german, that the federal republic of germany is actually an area of the united states army . when you see the, the map of the on the basis you not only the base is also the c i a with that as so violence, the mass. so violence. yeah. and the drone strikes with the really station on the outside basis, for example. so it's much more than just the truth. i do believe we don't need this us troops. our addition of those out by cash slides is that they should pull out there. so just as sent them back home to the united states and take with them that
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was a nuclear booms which are still on german. saw here officially just 20. but who knows? because the german government is not celebrated enough to control their own gym and solve what's going on here on getting so not. so we don't know if this is true, was a tricky nuclear bombs. but i would, i mean, well come if they would leave, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have good relations to the super poly united states. i believe in my part to we do believe that we do need good relations to super policy and the upcoming powers. i mean that means to russia to try now to united states, but also to brazil, to india, to south africa, to indonesia. we'd need good relations because of our geographic situation in europe and, and we do need a policy of who makes it look good with russia. you know,
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you can change the geography a russia is the top of europe and will be part of europe in the future. and that's why we believe we need a new policy european, secure, which in foreign policy, we're just summarizing, we've just independent from the united states. so we don't need the troops, but we just want to have good relation to all the powers which i want to give you is the trump policy just behind really for this is our of i can protect the lives just finally remind us. and this will be the issue upon which the election will be one of the different members of parliament on sunday, described the amount of poverty that is effecting a germany the north stream pipeline destroyed by the c. i a under joe biden, affecting energy supplies, causing inflation in your country. and how much more prosperous can germany be and more equal a country? can it be if it, if it takes on your policies of the, sorry, well, i can collect alliance. just let me uh tell you. oh, once thing before,
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um because you said at the is the trump administration option? yes, but we see the trumpets installation very diverse. i mean, we are well coming that she wants to end the war, but we know he is not a piece, a piece of angel. he is not a pacifist, that he wants to a stop all the worse, all or going worse. and he wants to concentrate on his main enemy, china and our 2nd largest economy partner trade talk now. and he wants us to follow him. and this is something which is very dangerous because we stopped the economics trade relations with russia, which, which was one of the causes of the german prosperity because of cheap energy. and now we're going to do the same mistake and get fruit form of the complication policy of the united states against china,
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our 2nd largest trade partner. and we also see that trump is going to make it at the cleansing in the gaza strip. a case of policy in which is a violation of international law. it's a, it's a, it's a violation against humanity and we have to stop this and see of the united states . well, i was the, i mean we, we, it was handed that good luck tomorrow. good luck on sunday. thank you very much. thousands out of the. thank you. that's it for the show. and nato, a reckoning with the atlantic alliance is out. now we'll be back on monday with the manned tip, a loan must be the next boss of the us schedule. was a veteran congressman fuller, presidential candidate and libertarian. i go and dr. on pull until then keep it. that's why the social media, it's nonsense of do a country. and how do i channel the only one tv on rumbled com to watch new and old episodes going underground. see monday, the
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