the see was more snow and you have the, i'm actually 100 times in. welcome to going underground pool, cussing around the world from the house of a middle east that hosted peace talks. the good finally, and the nature of proxy war and russia through ukraine and of a 12 or 3 donald trump set off towards that ukraine should never have started the war. predictably, the response from european the leads ahead of elections in its most powerful economy germany, tomorrow has been panic. chaos, and the reevaluation of the spaces as sab, trapeze of washington. since the end of the 2nd world war and the formation of nato . trump's vice president j, the vance, your lack of freedom to in comprehension from european nature members at the munich

security conference. so i guess tom of the british prime minister and persecutor of julian assange immediately propos, sending thousands of u. k. soldiers to fight for russia. this is, it was revealed, the 3 to 4 of the elderly and britain cannot afford to heat the homes. it has truly be nato, a reckoning with the atlantic alliance. and that's the view title of the new book by a member of the german, but to shag and foreign policy spokes present to the sort of bug and collect alliance. $7000.00 and she joins to begin from balance. 7, thanks so much for coming on before i even get to your book into a piece in our time perhaps. but a real piece. uh, what happened as regards uh, francesco, been a z u and special wrap up around palestine. she was in germany. i understand you, you met her as regards the u. k. u. s. u um genocide in gaza. or

yeah, and i mean, you know, in a sense, of course, what gage events did as a vice president of the united states is inches hearing and 2 of the ontario, affairs of germany and disrespecting, the serenity of the federal republic of germany. of course, the german government, the actual one at the former, once they did it also interfere in the electoral campaign. harris versus a trump, i'd say they say the parents, so i, i really judge them as well, but i didn't think we should respect the. so rosie is of the country is, 1st of all, the 2nd thing is, do we were, what do you, but what happened is, are gods, are you referring to j, d months insulting? yeah. your parts, lack of free spirit effect. yeah. and his speech at the munich security conference because you mentioned this, and that's true, that's did. she has a point on this because we have a lot of

a freedom of press freedom of speech in the air in german society, especially in the last years. we. we could observe that during the pandemic period, everyone who criticized in germany the measures which are where i very much value by a line to our human rights, all of them into rights, according to our constitution. they put them into a very, at the same them as a, as a, as far right and so on. and now we do have an attack on freedom of speech. the freedom all gathered together and protest regarding israel because the unconditional support of the german government regarding the the is randy elmore, in the gaza strip in sending weapons and helping them militarily, but also in an economic and political way age and the depth of the steps as on

policy, this has such an outcome that everyone who is criticizing the various tar white extremist government of nathaniel boeing is right here. they say this is an to semitism, and this is a problem. and in the german parliament, they talked bills and motions from the christian democrats associated with press, the green, the liberals, and even the less pop in germany. we as that about crazy alliance, we were the only one who proposed his bills and motions. in this motions, it says that everyone has previous sizing, almost everyone is put a sizing phase way. the government has an interest in it, and that's why we have to for beds. they are like, just at the universities, we have to parties, school people in the schools when they are criticizing these, ran the government and also capital funds of in theaters of actors

and so on. so it is a very big attack on freedom of speech away and there's usually a tomorrow's elections of germany, sunday's elections in germany. you're the only policy who really respects free speech and a kind of american 1st amendment. uh well uh, unfortunately it is so in november, last year end in uh, february this year, this parties past this bills and uh, we say this is a very big attack on freedom of speech and also the freedom of science because it is an attack on the universities at the universities, and this is a, for example, the reason by francesca albany is i really do like it very much. i had her in did you have a parliament and i gave her the possibility i will come to, to come and do the lecture in the german parliament because i do believe that this

is also a disrespect to the united nations. i mean, she's not anybody, she is a special rucker to all the united nations and everyone was always saying and talking about an international order international lawyer has to respect the special ritler to update uh, united nations from my perspective. but if that happened in the week of the leading up to the elections, obviously democracy only exists if there is free speech. all the elections in germany this week, fair given you don't have freedom of speech in germany. it is literally like j. d events, drums, vice president for say, as well i, i have to admit that we do have some problems with the german media as well. so because we have more and more freaking spaces in the public regarding a mainstream versus a different opinions. but we have this and last off, it's not just a,

it's an extra extra one situation regarding is way past the time. we had this 3 years, ongoing war against different opinions regarding the war and ukraine. every one who was in favor of negotiations stopped to kill. the people doesn't matter. ukrainians or wash hands, stop the killings and the war and have peace and you play in every one of those defend as primitive party, brendan puppets, puter assets and so on. and especially o coffee, because a b, s, w, a is out of boxes. your lives was founded. i mean, we split from the left party because they did leave all the positions on peace and they were in favor about some of them and of what the delivery is to you. right. and they went in and are still in favor of sanctions against russia,

which are harming the german industry. and the german people button up the russian industry as we know. so we split because we, where from the beginning to only potty were in favor of negotiations and to end the war. and also it gains to meet the expansion, which is the cause of this conflict. and i very welcome that the new president of the united states, stomachs from seas. this cause of this conflicts and says, there is no prospective of nature nature membership for you frame. will your foreign minister maybe not 5 minutes to next week? who knows? and lena bear block, she so she, uh, previously she said she wanted um, puts in on trial. suddenly off to donald trump said zalinski is a dictator for not having elections in ukraine. suddenly she said that actually

these negotiations, peace negotiations initiated by trump may be useful. do you think it'll make any difference to this present to government at sunday's election? suddenly coming round to the idea after maybe, maybe a 1000000 have been killed in ukraine. suddenly realizing it's, it's okay to have peace talks as well. we have to be careful, we have to see how it goes. because i mean, while russia and the west are negotiating and react in saudi arabia and also discussing about energy investments and some other, he cannot because they couldn't make exchangers, the european union, the european commission, the european member states included the german government. they now decided on a 16 package of sanctions against russia. why the negotiations

a going long to end this war? and also the united states said that they want to lift the sanctions, the us tensions towards 20 russian bank. so i think it's just, you know, insanity in europe and brussels and burden and all over the place here in europe. we're seeing that they can run this war. uh, still uh, although, uh the, the us wants to end this war. so we have to be very careful on this. and the 2nd thing is, i mean, in the same of babel, you can see that they are or victims of that, that relates to the united states. the united states has the best deals in europe in brussel, brussels. you know, i mean, the european commission is an agency of the heads up on of the united states of the white house. they are just doing what the white house says, and it's the same with the driven, minnesota fine upstairs. i mean,

i mean i babble is the best german foreign minister, the united states as a head in one job. and so, so that makes them as the victims because they followed 3 years. the policy of joe biden, to militarily and economically, really in russia that was the goal of the bible and administration. now the administration changed the policy change, and now they are very optimistic, as you can see in changing the positions. because they have to follow the hedge and one united states, and that makes it very difficult and dangerous for europe because we, as your parents, has to understand our interests, let's say like the interest on the united states. i mean, i am really glad and delighted that the new government wants to stop the war and the killing in the united states because they did start this at the beginning in

the, on the, in ukraine. but the problem is they want us to pay the bill of this us let the need to lead to war in ukraine. this proxy will it gauge russia. they want us to pay the bill be because they want to focus on their main. and i mean, it gains china and this is the problem for us, europeans, as long as we follow the united states in our foreign and security policy, we will be full on the bus as we have seen in the past. for example, the, the, the ending of the war in uh, in spanish time, after 20 years, the us americans, when they left a comma stump, they didn't even explore their allies, the so called allies. because actually they do not want as high as the west is just interested in those. as henry kissinger one stated, we don't have any of these. we don't have a friends, we just have interest 7 babbling. i'll stop you. the bull from germany,

sorry about getting connected a lot, as far as well as the spokesperson and officer of nato, a reckoning with the atlantic alliance. after the spring, the, the the, the russian

states. never d as tight as i'm one of the most on screen and the best most i'll send send up the send the 65 with the keys 195 and speed. what else? suppose question about this. even though we will bend in the european union the kremlin mission, the state on russia to day and split the ortiz full, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say a request, which is the welcome back to going underground?

i'm still here with a member of the german going to chicago, other of nato, a reckoning with the atlantic align 7 dental, and the 7 at the end of $51.00. you were talking about the vast selection of european states. i do want to get onto your amazing book nato. as a reckoning with the atlantic alliance. you were referring earlier to, i suppose the lack of education in your up about how they are about so states and in your book, you refer to something called cognitive warfare. i know ahead of tomorrow's elections in germany. you have the amazing media concentration. of course. thanks to trump in, in, on must, can we now know the, the, we know the links to actual spring are in both of them and to inside the, the state department. there are beings also to of allegations now for me on most of the development of government efficiency. what is cognitive wolf areas outlined in your latest book? as you know, we know we do have 3 moves of,

of an, a tool to make this austin a tool where it defines itself as an alliance of a defense of the international move of values and of democracies. and this is something i was trying to construct in the book, but also at the, you know, in, in, in our time, wars are not just one by militarily in the country, one of the worst taken over. but also in the homeland you have to win the ads and the how it's all the people for doing this war. and that's why natal, for example, has this college in, in room. and it's a link and they are, are they, they are a planning, organizing and networking. how they trying to, to, to, to attack the heads of the people and the half of the people to,

to win them for the war. you know, our a friend, our common friend, judy and i saw the journalist ones as stated that people do not have one more. it's just the media when stamps, because of lice, air force, and to promote the wars and, and this is the, the aim of the, of the cognitive war and of a concept of the need to, they try to have a network of lectures at the universities of things sayings of media are and trying to the narrative, like we do have actually in germany for example, i just want to tell you in uh, since 2 years time, they're always in the mainstream media trying to impose the people that russia is a threat and russia is going to attack x, the natal country, germany,

and in the 4 years time, for example, the defense minnes does, is saying, and all the image lenses of the nature. and trying to put this narrative into the heads of the people. and as you can see, according to pools or people believes this narrative of the military and the military um, expenses of the, of the natal stage, only in europe, all 480000000000. and the whole budget of the, the national budget of russia is 400000000000. so there's no point that a russia could, i mean, it can't relate, you know, be a threat to the nate, to member states in europe or to the whole nature. but they tried to put this into the hat, and that's the problem of the mainstream media. was really very much in the hands of this native narratives except the incentives to john sla sholtes, even he said, guess tom or of britain's id or of sending in thousands of european troops to

attack russia after the trump peace plan goes into action. he didn't like that idea a tool. so presumably in germany, the idea of sending german soldiers into ukraine is not a, not an option. b mines in germany. a note is controlled as they are in britain to well, i mean, we know that the britons very much more aggressive to we have seen this was this oddly a piece of pregnant is the worst johnson in the spring 2022. when he and the united states of, of us administration of biden, at talking to the peace negotiations between workshop and a and ukraine and is stumbled, for example, because they don't care about lice and human beings. and they just care about their own uh, interest it. gates, russia and uh, but the problem is with sending troops. so our experience with the german

chancellor is add that he says something. and then later on he forgets what you said. so he had a levels of, of, he has a m, this, you got some political trouble of, of him. and i do believe that they are waiting till the elections, the national elections on the 23rd of february. because we had this discussion before a few months ago. it was a, it, it appears that, that they are thinking in uh behind the scenes about sending german troops on euclid installed to the border of russia. if they use a c spine ones in between russia and ukraine, and this was now miss that a headset, the defense municipal of united states. he said that in this speech, in a munich, and this is a very boy, isn't always and a proposal because it's, it's for my probably to be a, it's

a disaster. if we were to happen because the board is almost 2000 kilometers and which has to be watched out with the troops that and the time is 50 or 200000 troops has to be there. and i mean, regarding our german history, it would say it would mean that sending german troops to watch this a ceasefire. and if the seas wire is um, is broken, german troops would be in work against russia and they would shoot to russian soldiers. i mean, at our we have the history of the 2nd world war where we attacked russia and a rush of the soviet union we attacked of. so if you're doing it and they liberated at the europe from driven fascism. so i can't believe that something like this

would have then, and that's why, maybe they hesitating at the moment, but we, we don't know what they are going to do because as what do we know is that the german government and that doesn't matter which party is this morning, they are vessels, both the united states, and if the united states, one step to send the troops, i believe that they going to do this at this would be very, very, a disaster. the video link keeps going down. i don't know whether that's your german government already tried to sense of this conversation. who knows? except of course, if they are a vassal state they should the baby or the new or does from donald trump. uh, give me their, if their boss is or washington, i suppose the point is you're saying it's a kind of deep state in washington, not donald trump, clearly or lieutenant colonel to say, gathered in your book. you talk about the constant, the stabilisation of europe. since the 2nd world war, you mentioned it to lee,

i don't know whether a prime minister maloney will close down the nato defense college you write about in the book. just remind us as we come to an end here, how many sold us soldiers are occupying germany right now and what tomorrow's election mean for ramstein base groundwater base, heidelberg, spying the you'll country is full of what a 100000 united states soldiers. okay. well yeah, i prefer they could go on the trump of course. well officially we do have $40000.00 an on gym and so on. and us troops and, but we do have a in europe. uh, officially more than 100000 and, and the uh, the new administration of, from they announced that they going to pull back a 20000. so they some going to leave a 2000. but the, the better actually, uh, the problem is for all the bases, you know, we do have a federal basis. i mean,

it's a german, that the federal republic of germany is actually an area of the united states army . when you see the, the map of the, of the basis you, not only the base is also the c i a, with that a so violence, the mass, so violence. yeah. and the drone strikes with the really station on the outside basis, for example. so it's much more than just the truth. i do believe we don't need this us troops. our position of the vodka headlines is that they should pull out there. so just as sent them back home to the united states and take with them that was a nuclear booms which are still on german. saw here officially just the 20, but who knows? because the german government is not celebrated enough to control their own german . so what's going on here on jim? so not so we don't know if this is true with d nuclear bombs, but i would, i mean,

we'll come if they would leave. but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have good relations to the super poly united states. i believe in my party, we do believe that we do need good relations to super policy and the upcoming powers. i mean, that means to russia to try now to united states, but also to brazil, to india, to south africa, to indonesia. we'd need good relations because of our geographic situation in europe and, and we do need a policy of who makes quotes with russia. you know, you can change the geography a russia is pop of europe and will be part of europe in the future. and that's why we believe we need a new policy, european, secure, which in foreign policy we're just summarized which is independent from the united states. so we don't need the troops,

but we just want to have good relation to all the powers which i want to give you is the trump policy. just finally for us, this is our of i can collect alliance. just finally remind us. and this will be the issue upon which the election will be one of the different members of parliament on sunday, described the amount of poverty that is effecting a germany the north stream pipeline destroyed by the c. i a under joe biden, affecting energy supplies, causing inflation in your country. uh, how much more prosperous can germany be and more equal a country? can it be if it, if it takes on your policies of the, sorry, well, i can connect alliance. just let me uh tell you. oh, once thing before, um because you said at the is the trump administration option? yes, but we see the trumpet installation very diverse. i mean, we are well coming that she wants to end the war, but we know he is not a piece,

a piece of angel. he is not a pacifist, that he wants to a stop all the worse, all or going worse. and he wants to concentrate on his main enemy, china and our 2nd largest economy partner trade talk now. and he wants us to follow him. and this is something which is very dangerous because we stopped the economics trade relations with russia, which, which was one of the causes of the german prosperity because of cheap energy. and now we're going to do the same mistake if we follow the complication policy of the united states against china. our 2nd largest trade park now. and we also see that trump is going to make the cleansing in the gaza strip a case the police did is which is a violation of international law. it's a, it's a, it's a violation against humanity. and we have to stop this

o. c of the united states. well, i was the, i mean we, we a good handed, the good luck tomorrow. good luck on sunday. thank you very much for having that other. thank you. that's it for the show. and nato, a reckoning with the atlantic alliance is out. now we'll be back on monday with the man tipped by. elan must be the next boss of the us schedule. was a veteran congressman fuller presidential candidate and the but jerry and i go and dr. on pool and you'll then give it to us. why will that social media if it's not set to do a country and i'd watch, i don't think anyone. tv on rumble, don't com to watch. new and old episodes are going underground. see monday, the the company's motor on us then the

most american politicians. here's the one who was exposed, then lies the seat. and the caption, the american system also is the one who's willing to have a dialogue. all the issues can only be solid. you had to see slide them and them, at least you've started the data process. and it's towards the lensky look at you and put boss your mandate. the hello. my name is joe, i'm a traditional catholic, father of 6 children. i'm from dallas, texas originally. all right, my girls. what are you doing? by that time many things had changed since crowded in america wants to talk about the eligibility, propaganda and all that sort of thing. we think that we would like to move and live somewhere else to raise our children 2023, my wife and i and my 6 children he moved to restaurant. really actually i've seen

all these movies of russia being this dark, very place and crass and everybody's starving. these are fish eggs, me and joking. so that's called the current and the russians loved pizza was what it's like living in russia with a big family. the good and the bad, the pros and cons expectations meeting reality. she will not be able to do that, but i can't do that. i see the the german skills 6000000 polls and that the sort of you tell me didn't just liberate the country from the nazi's book rebuilt. it seems to carry no weight with bonus.