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0 dosage already revealing shocking levels of corruption at the heart of the republic. shortly. one of the inspirations window gen for trumps. new priorities. as being that i call and of libertarianism. in america, dr. run pull recently off by feeling most of the run the federal reserve, the veteran congressman who ran for the white house 3 times and who is the father of us and is around full chair of the senate's homeland security committee, joins me now from crude, texas. dr. paul, thanks so much for coming back on before we get to the drums piece initiative. what's your understanding of the scale of waste of us public money, as revealed by ellen must, could judge. even though for years decades i've been talking about this, etc. would lead to a disaster when it was finally revealed more detailed, it's still even with via anticipation. it's still rather shocking at no way. you know how much trouble were facing it when i looked at the employees of the usa id
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is still shocking, but i'm not surprised at all. i have, i think there's a reason for this, and that is our position as a manager of an empire. and we have the military might of, uh, of, of, of all of all the nations of the world. and we own the reserve currency of the world. is human nature to abuse that and take advantage of it. and it is natural for our, for our allies. i'm not, allies will assume that the dollars will flow forever and they use the dollars and we end up uh, you know, abusing it and the abuse is rosure by the depth. and if everybody's concerned about what has happened in the past, and what we have to deal with is the data of $37.00 trillion dollars. um and uh, i think that's why people are very interested in judge
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a judge because we're filing may be paying attention to this. and so some of us are very support above it, but we keep our fingers crossed because we want to see it to be true believers. yeah, i'll get on the car and see and how effective the administration will be. it actually making change in the 2nd, but actually from the revelations you mentioned usa, i, b, i mean your presidential bids were presumably sabotaged in some ways by some of this, this kind of corruption money which was outside the united states used to be stabilized democracies all around the world, presumably in your country as well. it was used to kind of promote certain ideas at the expense of real democracy in your country as well. the whole system gets change and everybody suffers the consequences. it is true that if they want to interfere
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with freedom of speech and camp, paying and business this through as a foreign policy, then they go out of their way to really up abuse the 1st of and, and get people into trouble. but if you just inflated yes, a currents in the base, the currency, and you can have all that extra mischief making use of it and trying to build a power faster and bigger. there's still would be a mass because if you don't have a definable currency, if you don't know what the under the couch is and its analyst with being created, it encourages that and encourages the inflation of prices and the devaluation of the currency. and that, that is what's happened, but that all occurs. and another thing that generally is ignored. and that is the mal investment, which is sort of automatic. you know, if the people who are, i'm knowledgeable about the money issue. if i say, oh,
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you know why this is raise or 2 percent, you can get a house mortgage at 2 percent. they may go out and buy a house and splurge and get a big house because interest rates are low. but after time, you have to pay for that because that was really borrowed money and the, it distorts the market places. so there's all kinds of abuses, or there's going to be more wars. there's going to be more speculation. there's going to be bigger government and there's going to be a lot more bubbles to deal with. but the worst thing is, there's always a challenge to liberty. and right now, i think the biggest problem that we face with the basement of our courtesy is, is the, is the fact that it causes descent. you know, the richer the guys are rich against the poor. and people say to me, oh, who was the business stable are gouging? we have to stop that. oh yes we have just have we have to stop shop all this
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nonsense going to we're out of money, so please send me more money. i can't find my groceries. so is that distortion that occurs? so a lot of it is evil and deliberate, and the special the recipients know that. but there is a, the middle class and the poor, and many are the victims of the destruction of money because the very well say i can compensate, but what they can't compensate for it eventually leads to political, a payable and dissension. and we're starting to see that and that, that is really my biggest concern because that the people get angry. and if they get angry and i don't understand why the inflation is best. why? that? that's why the doj is good. or at least pointing out is the spending, but they have to go to the next step. what do they do with that? they put money on it as a tax on the poor and a barrel class,
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so they have to connect it. but it is just uh, if you just say, oh, it discovered this and now we have to do something about it. this have to see the connection, but i think is the economic policy is up in the fridge in our college is that, you know, for a good many years, 50 years, starting with a k exams, and that they teach us in school. and most of the people that i met and congress, you know, other members that they were decent people generally speaking, i try to get along with all of them, but they, they didn't have any idea why i voted my way. when i started, they, they were, they were just dumbfounded and most of them never heard of visas and high back in austria and economics and personal liberty. and what the founders really wanted us to do about our foreign policy is these other thing. they're just, they're, you know, to be a color is bad and much, but that does, that doesn't include everybody, obviously,
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level marks. what do one good say you've tried to neutralize the ignorance for years. you dedicated your life to try and educate the american public. now, as regards the printing of money with any efficiency gains, maybe maybe they won't because even less mentioning on his platform that you could be head of the federal reserve, was it a joke or could you run the federal reserve and truly not to continue this policy of quantitative easing to complete the distort your economy and make the pool up or yeah, i don't know. i don't know my skin. i don't know what his motivations are. and i don't know whether it's a person. what did you think when you say, what did you think when you heard for as being the most good said the well, i think about, well, i'm pleased with it. i'm pleased that there is a attachment. gave it and something i've been working hard for 2530 years to get attention to this issue. so i am delighted that that's happening. but i don't,
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i don't the, i don't think i both get excited because i'm getting recognition. i get excited because libertarian is a hard money and the answer to our dilemma is a, yeah, i deal with it and not, not just as sliced administration, or even 200 years ago. i do an all time a history because this contest between the, the good enable has existed for a long time. and i happen to be a strong believer, a natural law. and this other law in government law is what everybody follows. so i think it's part of that argument that when things come up like, oh, you know that what he said was right. uh, i don't, i don't know. okay, that is personal because i didn't create the abuse that i talk about. because there, that has to come from, you know, reading and study out. so i would, people asked me to have to do. i said, you know, what you need to do is make sure you understand what liberty is all about. and the
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more out to that is space store, and i think gar, founders, many of them warders, you know, we're all, we're given you a republic. it, but it won't work if the people do not remain moral. and there is a moral response to the, the, uh, to, to the liberty database and drafted. so i, i see it in a big picture, but i'm delighted with the other and i work with them. i try to help. i try to help those who want to cut spending to understand that. but a lot of times i, i a for years always it took me a lot of years. the armoire, the things hours taught in my government schools is really such a long time coming there. now, since this is we're doing, i can mocks arguably, but we don't have time to get into that cuz i want to also talk about ukraine. but before that, what do you make of a mosque talking about fort knox and gold? well, impact is that going to have and what's the significance of that people might not understand why? why are they talking about the need to monitor and audit the gold as well?
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for centuries, governments have gone through cycles. they may have a sound per se, but eventually the government abuses it runs up that and that is right, the monetary system. but when you have a calamity, you know something as serious as then as well, uh, uh, the, then the collapse occurs then you have to rebuild. and then any times this has happened, they always resort to stop like a real value. the people can know about the 5 touch and make it understand that it's useful. and i think that that is what starting to happen. you know, for 42 years, we, as americans weren't even allowed to own gold for 1933 up until i teach 75. and i thought 9075. of course i see i consider 1971 the closing of the goal. when the announcement were, were dead broke, which we already with the shot us. we don't on our commitment by night 875,
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they re legalize that. a lot of us encouraged to at least they said, well, gold is a money, you know? so the federal reserve chairman told me all is, well, there's not money, we have gold is money and that's why i think it was very important that we were allowed to own gold again. and. and so what's, what's the market do? they adjusted the dollar goal relationship, our goal, the government claimed all of $35.00 on us as a relationship. and, and we're at, we're a king and we're going to continue to inflate. but uh, what, what has happened. gold is gone nearly $3000.00 and as a right there spending and doing why the people should pay attention to this issue . that for years it was brushed off because people, people were a timber dated as our empire lasted, and people got richer. but right now the conference is being lost and that's why
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that's why i think it's very significant on the bricks movement. that's why they end up doing that. and also we're seeing a sign that the, the various central banks are buying gold. and that is necessary to have a restoration of a sound currency and liquid day and take care of all that debt and start all over again. so we see signs. what is that to do with the law and must going to forward knocks? well yeah, we don't know where the goals they are. yeah, we're always on a goal conversion, just a health and i, i had a bill passed to have the goal kitchen position. i think old commission 1981. and i asked for a rec, i've had the staff, there were 17 members of that commission. i said just at least boat and say you ought to find out if we have a goal. if you want to study the monetary issue. so we had a boat on it, and out of the 17 we had only 2 people myself and one other person say, oh yeah,
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we are to check and find out if the golden rule, the silver oval. i'll stop you that more from the veteran texas congressman, the price you as presidential candidate after this break, the, the, the russian states. never. i've side as i'm one of the most sense community best most i'll send send up the send the 65 with the keys to progress be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union,
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the kremlin media mission, the state on the russia to day and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. what question did you say from stephen twist, which is the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the veteran texas congressman and prize us presidential candidate, doctor rumble a dr. pull you would just saying at the end of the one you tried to get an audit of gold reserves back a back way back. and that's what must, can your son, the rebel is sent as a rebel, maybe try to do well, just to explain why you thought they didn't want the old it back then. and how
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corrupt it was that you couldn't get the order when you went to the oh, they did an audit, but it was a fake audit and 1974. and uh, i think there is there like 17 major is to investigate an audit. but they did, they never did ask phase, and they never told how much of that the go to as long dog. they only opened one section. so it was just fake. you know? no, i think they don't want us to know, and that's why they uh, i mean, i want to know about it. oh, well, i want to know about everything the fed does internationally, if in particular, because there's been tremendous trust placed in the united states. but the distortion is so bad, i see what has happened in this past year. is he, at the end of all this is coming? we're seeing it, it's winding down and the system will change. because no matter how powerful the
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armies are, and no matter how powerful the federal reserve is and how much influence or is eventually markets will dictate. and that's why that's why the bretton woods broke down. it was the market that did after you know, but the, the, for the holders of dollars, they realized we were running out of going people trusted it and then the trust was lost. so at the last minute they retained some of that goal, but we got rid of of, you know, more than half our goal, huge amount of goal. you. i mentioned, you mentioned, you mentioned the bricks and how those bricks, nations, i'm speaking to you from the you. a very aware of all of this. maybe that you think is why trump attacks bricks very quickly into the administration. he realizes the significance of the fact of the nations and not as corrupted by their relates and do understand the intrinsic value of the currency. i don't know why they thought about, i think is a, it's a good symbol. and
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a way of moving on the right direction, but they're going to do everything possible to prevent auditing, the, the goal of the auditing, the federal reserve. because uh they, they, they, they argue that they, they can't stand the open knows that i said when they want secrecy. i mean, when, when, when they, when, you know, not having other brother interfere with our policy, what they're doing is i say, we don't want the people to know what we're doing. so what they're saying is that they want to, uh, they want secrecy and whether it's a goal, you know, if we don't know and not going to find out. so i don't think in the next year or you're going to write callback on say, rhonda just open up the open up the doors and now we know we have exactly how many hours of gold we have. i think it will be more complicated that you do you spend decades in politics in uh now the liberty reports that you're doing with them?
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mcadams was on the other week. ongoing undergrad. i'm talking about the also the hundreds of billions wasted of public money on the, on the a tunnel wars. i know, maybe a 1000000 may have been killed in ukraine this proxy war on russia. but what did you, what did it make you feel to see donald trump's initiative come through in the sense that piece talks were the last a range in the beginning of some kind of piece may be on because what did they make you feel given you've been saying this for a for years as well. daniel and i praise them well and he, he has said he doesn't want to start a new wars and he wants to end the wars. and yet, at the same time, i mean what, what was this demonstration just recently of our b to b, a, b, 50 twos and other airplanes having a sign of strange. because if paul, if we could just eliminate around the,
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from the babson and get at take care of gaza and just, you know, sell that to whoever who is going to get ahold of it. there's a, there's a context there. one is you could say the things that we so far i've talked, we get excited and we praise it. but at the same time, uh, you know, the amount of money spent on the demonstration of our air force alert. i, you know, air force flying over what was it for? how many countries really flew over to say, don't mess around with it as we're still seeking to hill. uh, that probably spent more money on a fuel than we've saved so far in the, in dodge. but does that mean i don't think doj is worth i know, i think it's excellent because of the information we're getting. yeah. yeah, absolutely. i, i'm sure many of the american people are unhappy with the investigation. maybe no physical mainstream media that are funded by some of the corruption revealed by
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your muskets dojo. you, you mentioned guys are the, the genocide in gaza the, the possibility of war and they run for all the praise a given to trump, this. what's your understanding? i mean, is this miriam, adults and money? why is donald trump seeming to support a possible striking iran, perhaps virus rail? is it because of the people around him? you don't like marco rubio, you never have and he's the secretary of state as well. i can't, i can't really interpret everything that trump doesn't explain it. i, i'm the one thing i say, he is sympathetic. he talks the libertarians he likes to throw through branches out to send and, and, and work with us because he wants the support of libertarians on it because he has had close races. but that doesn't mean that he's going to follow everything that
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way is libertarian, suggest, because he, he just is not there. but what i see there is a victory for the principles of libertarian is that he can't as nora. so that's the market standing up for it. is sorta sorta like why the government had to finally back down on cove at the insanity of cove. and the people rebelled against the and it wasn't getting on. the democrats still haven't figured it out. they're still preaching that nonsense. whether it's cobra type of medical care or whatever. so i think that the drop knows it, i think is good. and i've talked to a one time i and he's a very high, you know, engaging person. and i think it's very sincere, but he's very, he's very smart and for what he wants. so i think he just knows how to do it. but i
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don't think he eyes is a secret secret. spied for the libertarians and, and you know, everything it does is going to be delivered there and you believe he wants peace. i mean, even some of his enemies say he does seek peace. he keeps emphasizing of the casualties and the dad to help more unlike any uh well then, but at the same time as you imply their own guys, uh, it doesn't weigh suddenly when it comes to israel, it's different. why this mismatch over israel? wow, it's, it's politics. one example is i remember growing up understanding, but the soviet system all and the so be as always wanted peace. they said to on their terms. and so yes, i think trump wants it and i think it's uh, you know, beneficial. and he has good motivation, but it isn't the, on the, based on the principles of uh, of personal freedom. i'm buying our own business,
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no entangling alliances, styled money. and all these things it is not exactly, is that because we happened to not thanks tara, have a sore, a very good idea. hey, i've got an age for that, but i don't, i don't reject his notions or say that, oh, he's lying to us about this or that it. busy all goes together because he's obviously pretty darn shrewd when it comes to politics and for the stuff by through and help during that campaign. and he was well trained whether it was his video training, his business training, and the democrats going over the top. actually the board, they went after them, whoever heard of been talking charges and paging a president twice. and then the more they did it, the more popular or the guys they made and made him a hero. so there was lot of things that and hate fit into that. yeah, yeah. there it is. very as, yeah, very smart. he has the mug showing the,
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the oval of as i understand, but i mean, if you are advising a run, i mean, don't you think the trump policy so far would make any country like it run one to nuclear weapons, the only jobs of around survival? what, what's coming out of his white house and from his proxy, or maybe it's the other way around. it is really, is they better get a degree weapons? good x. yeah, i think showed a sir. i certainly none of our businesses. uh, are they, are we usually they are a threat to ours is because we, we participate. they the one map that paper should be impressed by is the culture of a ross and look at where we have attach a weapon surrounding it wrong. they're surrounded all way, and i think that's uh that they, they have been chosen to be the enemy of the day. and i guess a trump for the see some benefits. and hopefully i like it to at least talk to the, to the russians. and the last of that is good,
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but to be obsessed with this thing that the, the greatest, the, the terrors or the writings. well, it all depends on how you define terrorism. what about the not thousands, millions of people says world war 2 that died at the hands of our foreign policy. if you're going to say gaza, they said this is terrible, we have to stop this and we brought up, you know, rebuild it. this sort of stuff, but how did those, how does that, where does that rubble come from? it came from the american taxpayer is, was our money, our weapons. oh, but we didn't lose any troops. same thing, or if you pray that 2014, and daniel and our preacher dog do this. uh, this is a cool. you're throwing out one person and putting your somebody else. yeah. and look at, look at what happened the ukraine is it makes no sense. it's, it's ridiculous and very dangerous. and, and there's, i,
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i think i is one of the biggest motivations for this is, you know, the military industrial complex. they have not the have not gone broke. hopefully just my stuff will come just finally, a deductible. i've got to ask you with the doj with the piece in ukraine, these different issues. how frightened die you for donald trump's life? it seems to revolve around this one individual. obviously, those doped lieutenant colonel chose a guy, but there are few other people there are of k junior who don't fit to the military industrial complex line. i mean, what if, what, what happens if trump is shocking, killed, he's already being shot, obviously at once. is there a huge danger that this is just one person and that the entire project can be de railed. libertarian is parts of the project, just bible it or oh, i think it was
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a great day and year and he, he says he has a special protector and i guess you can go through what a data bigger somebody's watch and i have to pay $100.00 survive all this politically and physically so i think there is danger, but how many presidents have we assassinated throughout our history? and there was a lot less contention about all that. but i think, yeah, yeah, he is. but you take as, as good as he is. he ought to be able to not depend on, uh, you know, secret service. uh that, that's the whole thing. you know, depending on a f, b, i o, o. now he's an administration this have the up yard chicken even right now, a change in the f b i leader will help. but there's a lot of people deep down in there and the f, b i n, c i a and the, the state is very deep into our culture and they are very powerful. so people
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should always be concerned. but i are, i are, you know, i simplify it. our greatest danger is our loss of liberty or loss of love for liberty. and the people ignoring defend it. because the smaller the government, the more likely really is that you will have peace and prosperity. that should be the goal of all living people. those around both. thank you. it's like, yeah, nice to be with you. that's it for the show. we'll be back with a brand new episode on that day until then give it to us my role that social media results sense in your country. and i to a general going on the ground g, b, a level dot com, to let you know that there's a going underground society. the look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings,
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except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show your mind and justification. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to create a trust rather than to the various jobs. i mean with artificial intelligence we have summoning the theme and the robot must protect his phone. existence was on the same wrong. just don't you have to shape out the application and engagement equals the trails when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look so common ground
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the the welcome to cross the bullhorn is were all things are considered on peter lavelle. trump's ukraine initiative is a real and what is next? is the u. s. a europe rift for real? or is it merely kabuki theater as differently? are these serious policies or trumps personal preferences? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george samuel. we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have marks level that he's an international relations and security analyst. all right, gentleman cross type roles in effect, that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start with mark.
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