sending to the responses provided by both foreign ministers, we understand that there are interests that align with moscow interests that align with unclear, but more importantly, based on the, on the position they presented in that joint press conference. there is a great deal of emphasis on working together, much like in syria in palestine as well as in ukraine. the general's consensus between the 2 sides is that the 2 sides must work together to ensure that there is a stability within the region and are elements that threaten to destabilize that. and that in itself is of course important. and one more important thing that the russian 4 minutes instead of grade level did say, is that despite our disagreements with turkey, it's important that we come together and have discourse. and that in and of itself is a civilized way forward. and that is of course what on career. so you think that is what must go seeking with respect to the conflicts and ukraine as well. so that will do it for me for now, but this stay with us. my colleague una neil is in next in half an hour with more news by the

time attitude or attendance in welcome to going undergrad, real gusting around the world. from the heart of him, at least that hosted talks to of a nuclear war. the ukraine peace talks came ahead of today's un security and general assembly meetings about the nature of proxy will on russia today is 3 years since vladimir putin finally understood the duplicity of the means could agreements and moved russian forces to protect the civilians. persecuted and bombed with nature weapons says the us, coo and key have in 2014. this says trump at home, tries to revolutionize government under the stewardship. i mean on masks, department of government deficiency, or doj already revealing shocking levels of corruption at the heart of the republic

. shortly. one of the inspirations window gen for trumps. new priorities as being that i call and of libertarianism. in america, dr. run pull recently off by feeling most of the run the federal reserve, the veteran congressman who ran for the white house 3 times and who is the father of us as a round, full chair of the senate homeland security committee joins me now from cruet texas . doctor pool, thanks so much for coming back on before we get to the drums piece initiative. what's your understanding of the scale of waste of us public money uh, as revealed by ellen must, could judge even though for years decades i've been talking about this, etc. would lead to a disaster when it was finally revealed in more detail. it's still even with, by anticipation. it's still a rather shocking at no way. you know how much trouble were facing it when i looked

at the employees of the usa id is still shocking, but i'm not surprised at all. i have, i think there's a reason for this, and that is our position as the manager of an empire. and we have the military might of, uh, of, of, of all of all the nations of the world. and we own the reserve purge of the world. is human nature to abuse and take advantage of it. and it is natural for our, for our allies and not allies will assume that the dollars will flow forever. and they use the dollars and we end up, you know, abusing it. and the abuse is measured by the debt as if everybody is concerned about what is happening in the past. and what we have to deal with is the data of $37.00 trillion dollars. um and uh, i think that's why people are very interested judge judge because we're filing may

be paying attention to this. and so some of us are very supportive of it, but we keep our fingers crossed because we want to see it to be true believers. yeah. i'll get onto the car and see and how effective the administration will be. it actually making change in a 2nd. but actually from the revelations you mentioned usa, i d, i mean your presidential bids were presumably sabotaged in some ways by some of this, this kind of corruption money which was outside the united states used to be stabilized democracies all around the world, presumably in your country as well, it was used to kind of promote certain ideas at the expense of real democracy in your country as well. the whole system gets change and everybody suffers the consequences. it is true that if they want to interfere with freedom of

speech and camp, paying and business this through some foreign policy. and then they go out of their way to really abuse the 1st and that and get people into trouble. but if you just inflated, you think parents in the base the currency, and you can have all that extra missed, you can use of it and trying to build power faster and bigger. there's still would be a mass because if you don't have a definable currency, if you don't know what the under the couch is and its analyst with being created, it, it encourages that it encourages the inflation of prices and the devaluation of the currency. and that, that is what's happened, but that all occurs. and another thing that generally is ignored. and that is the mal investment, which is sort of automatic. you know, if i have people who are a knowledgeable about the money issue, if i say, oh,

you know why this is raise or 2 percent, you can get a house mortgage at 2 percent. they may go out and buy a house and splurge and get a big house because interest rates are low, but after time you have to pay for that because that was really borrowed money. and the, it distorts the market places. so there's all kinds of abuses, or there's going to be more wars. there's going to be more speculation. there's going to be bigger government, and there's going to be a lot more bubbles to deal with. but the worst thing is, there's always a challenge to liberty. and right now, i think the biggest problem that we face with the division of our courtesy is, is the, is the fact that it causes descent. you know the richard again rich against the poor, and people say to me, oh, who was the business stable are gouging? we have to stop that. oh yes we have just have we have to stop shop all this

nonsense going on. we're out of money. so please send me more money, i can't find my groceries. so is that distortion that occurs? so a lot of it is evil and deliberate, and the special the recipients know that. but there is a, the middle class and the poor, and many are the victims of the destruction of money because the very well say i can compensate. but what they can't compensate for it eventually leads to political upheaval and dissension. and we're starting to see that and that, that is really my biggest concern because that the people get angry. and if they get angry and they don't understand why the inflation is the best way of that, that's why the doj is good. or at least pointing out is the spending, but they have to go to the next step. what do they do with that? they put money on it as a tax on the poor and a barrel class, so they have to connect it. but if it's just uh, if you just say, oh,

we discovered this, and now we have to do something about this, have to see the connection. but i think is the economic policy is up in the fridge in our colleges, and, you know, for a good many years, 50 years, starting with a k exams. and uh, they, they teach us at school. and most of the people that i met and congress, you know, other members that they were decent people generally speaking, i try to get along with all of them, but they, they didn't have any idea why i voted my way. when i started, there they, they were, they were just dumbfounded. and most of them never heard of visas and high back in austria and economics and personal liberty. and what the founders really wanted us to do about our foreign policy is these other thing. they're just, they're, you know, to be a color is bad and, but, but that does, that doesn't include everybody, obviously, level marks. what do one good say you've tried to neutralize the ignorance for

years. you dedicated your life to try and educate the american public. now, as regards the printing of money with any efficiency gains, maybe maybe they won't because even less mentioning on his platform that you could be head of the federal reserve, was it a joke or could you run the federal reserve and truly not to continue this policy of quantitative easing to complete the distort your economy and make the poor poor . yeah, i don't know. i don't know my skin. i don't know what his motivations are. and i don't know whether it's a person. what did you think when you say, what did you think when you heard for as being the most good said, i think about, i will. i'm pleased with it. i'm pleased that there is attach and gave it and something i've been working hard for 2530 years to get attach it to this issue. so i am delighted that that's happening. but i don't, i don't the,

i don't think i both get excited because i'm getting recognition. i get excited because libertarian is an ard money and the answer to our dilemma. and i say, yeah, i deal with it and not, not just as last administration, or even 200 years ago. i deal in all time a history because this contest between the, the goods enable has existed for a long time. and i happen to be a strong believer in natural law, and this other law in government law is what everybody follows. so i think it's part of that argument that when things come up like, oh, you know that what he said was right. i, i don't, i don't know. okay, that is personal because i didn't create the abuse that i talk about because or that is to come from, you know, reading and study. yeah. so i, uh, when people asked me to have to do, i said, you know, uh what you need to do is make sure you understand what liberty is all about. and the more out to that is based on. and i think our founders, many of them warders,

you know, we're all we're given. you are republic it, but it won't work if the people do not remain moral and there is a moral response to the, the, uh, to, to deliberately database and drafted. so i see it in a big picture, but i'm delighted with the other and i work with them. i try to help. i try to help those who want to cut spending to understand that. but a lot of times i, i have for years always it took me a lot of years to online. the things i was taught in my government schools is really such a long time coming that now, since this is where do we and hi, i can mocks arguably, but we don't have time to get into that cuz i want to also talk about ukraine. but before that, what do you make of the mosque talking about fort knox in gold? well, the impact is that gonna have and what's the significance of that people may not understand why. why are they talking about the need to monitor and audit the gold

or this? well, for centuries, governments have gone through cycles. they may have a sound per se, but eventually the government abuses it runs up that and then it is right, the monetary system. but when you have a calamity, you know something as serious as that as well. uh, uh, the, then the collapse occurs then you have to rebuild. and the very times this has happened, they always resort to something like a real value. the people can know about the 5 touch and make it understand that it's useful. and i think that that is what starting to happen. you know, for 42 years, we, as americans weren't even allowed to own gold for 1933 up until i teach 75. and i thought 9075. of course i see i consider 1971 to closing up the goal. when the announcement were, were dead broke, which we already with the shot us. we don't on our commitment by night 875,

they re legalize that. a lot of us encouraged to at least they said, well, gold is a money, you know? so the federal reserve chairman told me the quote is not money. well goal is money and that's why i think it was very important that we were allowed to own gold again . and. and so what, what did the market do? they adjusted the dollar goal relationship. our goal, the government claim of $35.00 on us us a relationship and, and we're at, we're a king and we're going to continue to inflate. but uh, what, what has happened. gold has gone to nearly $3000.00. and as of right there spending and doing why the people should pay attention to this issue that for years it was brushed off because people, people were intimidated as our empire lasted and people got richer. but right now the conference is being lost and that's why that's why i think it's

very significant on the bricks movement there. it's lining it up and doing it. and also we're seeing a sign that the, the various central banks are buying gold. and that is necessary to have a restoration of a solid currency and liquid day and take care of all that debt and start all over again. so we see signs. what does that to do with the law and most going to forward knocks? well yeah, we don't know where the goals they are. yeah. when i was on a gold commission, just a housing i, i had a bill passed to have the goal kitchen position. i think old commission in 1981. and i asked for a rec, i've had the staff, there were 17 members of that commission. i said this at least boat and say you all to find out if we have a goal. if you want to study the monetary issue. so we had a boat on it, and out of the 17 we had only 2 people myself and one other person say, oh yeah,

we are to check and find out if the golden rule or so trouble. i'll stop you that more from the veteran texas congressman, the price you as presidential candidate after this break the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with a veteran texas congressman and fries us presidential candidate, doctor rumble. doctor pull you would just, uh saying at the end of the one you tried to get an audit of gold reserves back a back way back. and that's what must can your son, the rebel is sent as a rebel?

maybe try to do? well, just to explain to why you thought they didn't want build it back then and how corrupt it was that you couldn't get the audit when you went to the oh, they did an audit, but it was a fake audit and 1974. and uh, i think they're, they're like 17 major is to investigate and audit. but they did, they never did. assa is, and they never told how much of that the go to as long dog. they only opened one section. so it was just fake, you know? no, i think they don't want us to know and that's why they uh, i mean, i want to know about it. oh, well, i want to know about everything. the fed does internationally up in particular because there's been tremendous trust placed in the united states, but the distortion is so bad. i see what has happened in this past year. is he, at the end of all this is common and we're seeing it. it's winding down and the

system will change because no matter how powerful the armies are and no matter how powerful the federal reserve is and how much influence there is, eventually markets will dictate. and that's why that's why the bretton woods broke down. it was the market that did after you know, but the, the, for the holders of dollars, they realized we were running out of gold. people trusted it, then the trust was lost. so at the last minute they retained some of that goal, but we got rid of of, you know, more than half our goal, huge amount of goals. you, i imagine you mentioned, you mentioned the bricks and how those bricks, nations, speaking to you from the you. a very aware of all of this. maybe that you think is why trump attacked bricks very quickly into the administration. he realizes the significance of the fact of the nations that not as corrupted by their relates and do understand the intrinsic value of the car and see,

i don't know why they thought about, i think is a, it's a good symbol. and a way of moving on the right direction, but they're going to do everything possible to prevent auditing, the, the goal of the auditing, the federal reserve. because uh that they, they argue that uh, that they, they can't stand the open knows that i said when they want secrecy. i mean, when, when, when they, when, you know, not having other brother interfere with our policy, what they're doing is i say, we don't want the people to know what we're doing. so what they're saying is that they want, they want secrecy, and whether it's a goal, you know, if we don't know and not going to find out. so i don't think in the next year or you're going to write callback on say wrong, or just open up the don't open up the doors and now we know we have exactly how many hours of gold we have. i think it will be more complicated that, you know,

you spent decades in politics in uh now the liberty reports that you're doing with that mcadams was on the other week on going undergrad. i'm talking about the also the hundreds of billions wasted of public money on the, on the a tunnel was, i know, maybe a 1000000 may have been killed in ukraine this proxy war on russia. but what did you, what did it make you feel to see donald trump's initiative come through in the sense that piece talks were the last a range and the beginning of some kind of piece may be on the cards. what did they make you feel given you've been saying this for a for years as well then you and i praise them with it. and he, he has said he doesn't want to started a new wars and he wants to end the wars. and yet, at the same time, i mean what, what was this demonstration just recently of our b to b, a, b, 50 twos and other airplanes having a sign of strange. because if paul,

if we could just eliminate around the problem, babson and get at take care of gaza and just, you know, sell that to whoever, who is going to get ahold of it. there's a, there's a context. there are one is you could say the things that we so far of talk, we get excited and we praise it. but at the same time, uh, you know, the amount of money spent on the demonstration of our air force alert. i, you know, air force flying over what was it for? how many countries really flew over to say, don't mess around with it as we're still seek of the hill. uh that probably spent more money on a few old and we've saved so far in the, in dodge. but does that mean i don't think dojo is worth i know, i think it's excellent because of the information we're getting. yeah, yeah, absolutely. i, i'm sure many of the american people are unhappy with the investigation,

maybe no physical mainstream media that are funded by some of the corruption revealed by your muskets dojo. you, you mention guys are the, the genocide in gaza the, the possibility of war and they run for all the praise a given to trump for this. what's your understanding? i mean, is this miriam adelson money? why is donald trump seeming to support a possible striking iran, perhaps virus rail? is it because of the people around him? you don't like marco rubio, you never have and he's the secretary of state as well. i can't, i can't really interpret everything that trump doesn't explain it. i, i'm the one thing i say, he is sympathetic. he talks the libertarians he likes to travel through branches out to send and, and, and work with this because he wants the support of libertarians on it because he

has had close races. but that doesn't mean that he's going to follow everything that way as a libertarian suggest, because he, he just is not there. but what i see there is a victory for the prism. most of the libertarian is that he can't as nora. so that's the market standing up for it is sorta sorta like why the government had to finally back down on cove at the insanity of cove. and the people rebelled against the and it wasn't getting on. the democrats still haven't figured it out. they're still preaching that nonsense, whether it's cobra type of medical care or whatever. so i think that the drop knows it. i think he's good and i've talked to a one time i and he's a very high, you know, engaging person. and i think it's very sincere, but he's very, he's very smart and for what he wants. so i think he just knows how to do it. but i

don't think he has is a secret secret. spied for the libertarians and, you know, everything it does is going to be delivered there and you believe he wants peace. i mean, even some of his enemies say he does seek peace. he keeps emphasizing of the casualties in the dad to help more unlike any uh well then. but at the same time as you imply their own gaza, it doesn't weigh suddenly when it comes to israel. it's different. why this mismatch over israel? well, it's a politics, one example is i remember growing up understanding, but the soviet system all and the soviet as always wanted peace. they said on their terms. and so, yes, i think trump once it, and i think it's uh, you know, beneficial and the, he has good motivation. but it isn't the, on the, based on the principles of uh, of personal freedom than mine, our own business,

no entangling alliances, sound body and all these things. it is not exactly, is that because we happen to not think it's a tear? i'm sure a very good idea. hey, i've got an age for that, but i don't, i don't reject his notions or say that, oh, he's lying to us about this or that it. busy all goes together because he's obviously pretty darn true when it comes to politics and for the stuff by through and help during that campaign. and he was well trained whether it was his media training, his business training, and the democrats going over the top. actually the board, they went after them, whoever heard of been talking charges and paging a president twice, and then the more they did it, the more popular it became, they made and made him a hero. so there was lot of things that and hate fit into that. yeah,

yeah. there it is. very is. yeah, very smart. he has the mug shot, the, the oval office, i understand. but i mean, if you are advising a run, i mean, don't you think the trump policy so far would make any country like a run one to nuclear weapons, the only jobs of around survival? what, what's coming out of his white house and from his proxy, or maybe it's the other way around. it is really is they've had a good degree weapons x. yeah, i think showed a sir. i certainly none of our businesses. uh uh, the only reason they are a threat to us is because we, we participate the one map that people should be impressed by is the culture of a ross and look at where we have attach a weapon surrounding around their surround it all way. and i think that's uh that they, they have been chosen to be the enemy of the day. and i guess a trump for the see some benefits. and hopefully i,

i like it to at least talk to the, to the russians and, uh, the lives of that is good. but uh, to be obsessed with this thing that the, the great is the, the terrors are the right hands. well, it all depends on how you define terrorism. what about the not thousands millions of people since world war 2 that died at the hands of our foreign policy. if you go to a gaza, they said this is terrible. we have to stop this and we brought up, you know, rebuild this sort of stuff. but out of those, how does the, where does that rubble come from? it came from the american taxpayer is, was our money, our weapons, all, but we didn't lose any troops. same thing, or if you pray that 2014, daniel and our preachers don't do this. uh, this is a cool. you're throwing out one person and putting your somebody else. yeah. and look at look of what happened to ukraine. it's, it makes no sense. it's,

it's ridiculous and very dangerous and the, and there's a, i think i is one of the biggest motivations for this is, you know, the military industrial complex. they have not the have not gone broke. hopefully just my stuff will come just finally, a deductible. i've got to ask you uh, with the dosage with the piece and ukraine, these different issues. how frightened die you for donald trump's life? it seems to revolve around this one individual. obviously those don't. lieutenant colonel chose a guy, but there are few other people there are if k junior, who don't fit to the military industrial complex line. i mean, what if, what, what happens if trump is shocking, killed, he's already being shot obviously at once. is there a huge danger that this is just one person and that the entire project can be de railed? libertarian is parts of the project. uh, just bible it. oh, i think it was

a great day and year and he, he says he has a special protector and i guess you can go through what he down and figured somebody's watch and i have to pay 100 dollars, survive all this politically and physically. so i think there is danger, but how many presidents have we assassinated throughout our history? and there was a lot less contention about all that. but the iron, i think, yeah, yeah, he is. but you take us as good as he is. he ought to be able to not depend on, uh, you know, secret service. uh that, that's the whole thing. you know, it depend on a f, b, i o, o. now he's an administration this have the up yard chicken even right now a change in the api i leader will help, but there's a lot of people deep down in there and the f b i n, c i a the, the state is very deep into our culture and they're very powerful. so people should

always be concerned about i are, i are, you know, i simplify it. our greatest danger is our loss of liberty or loss of love for liberty. and the people are ignoring, defend it. because the smaller the government, the more likely really is that you will have peace and prosperity. that should be the goal of all living and people know jerome bull, thank you. as i get and i should be with you. that's it for the show will be back with a brand new episodes idea until then give it does fire. will that social media? it result sense in your country and to our general going underground g b, a ramble dot com. to let you know that because it going undergrads here. so i have the, the hello, and welcome to cross the full board. here we discuss the wheel in the

head to head that the un in new york, the united states, and the you put forward comes p thing. resolutions, all of the ukraine conflict with members just know, adopting the key of bank draft that says russia stays, ukraine and brussels remain the only up there right now for peace. and they trying to ignore the fact that the winds have changed. undeclared amounts of places being pulled with the only obstacle being the key. if you set up a and is your a p and encompassing of course, during the war time you call and have elections. many countries having their constitutions point so that you contact the election. you official escape not a miracle lensky. a palms on the holding up ball isn't before the presidential a.