deputy assistant on the other day to rest and go okay, so um, i mean from as being saying off and on its possible there is some presence of western european nato troops allowed in ukraine. and the 2nd level of the foreign minister said no. so what will happen to the soldiers if they turn up their, i mean, right now they're in my 6, they're in british special forces in ukraine. what will happen to these troops if they turn up the well, if they happen to come without rushes approval, which is not forthcoming, as, as we see, they may become targets for russian strikes. and that would involve of those countries into a direct and immediate military conflict where the russian federation, i hope that the rulers of european country is

a consider that seriously before. busy it's too long before it's too late. but you've been saying what's been coming out of the mouths of these a european deletes, increasingly on popular with their own populations in recent weeks, they clearly see rusher as the enemy. they believe russia has designs on london and paris, and they seem to think that the by, even separating from the united states, they can take on russia as well. i'm not quite sure of the last thing you said because of the presence of european forces in ukraine hypothetical at this point was predicated by european leaders on the support of the united states. so, and they're all in all need. those europeans would want to have american backend. this is something that's present. trump is at least for now. unwilling to extend

and i don't think frankly that this position of the american president will change . but we're seeing so many reckless moves by europeans during this week. busy or the essentially made them almost direct participants in the conflict and they're helping was the warning director. busy them by president fulton, last year when they were on the verge of supply and your grade was long range, missiles. those missiles indeed was supplied. although they were used to more or less and they into was own go, not striking, much deeper into russia. in most cases, but i do not trust the european leaders bus me with making a you know,

serious decisions about the both military matters. i think that. busy many of what they decide upon is, is reckless and laden with lots of risks for their own countries. and though that, that is a cause for much concern. clearly based on that was people execute a stomach that they know worried that of fragment of the russian nuclear deterrent . but then you as a boss who is able to trust with verification, washington to a certain degree. and of course as a timeliness to this. what's the point of any signed degree meant if your opinion leaders continue to be the way they are? oh, just the, the russian leadership and the russian government think that you are both full in line as they normally do as puppet states of washington. because at the moment they, they seem to be at odds with washington. and there is that there is that bump of

your asia between russia and the atlantic ocean and the united states as well. i think that at the end of the day, the europeans will have no alternative but to side with washington or follow washington. they don't have resources, they did. they don't have the will. uh for an independent security policy and independent for and policy in the to a sense of the word and the options or presence of american backing for the risk. a potential risk it moves in ukraine is critical for them. so i think that they will rather not challenge washing done on that issue because the washington will be put in an uncomfortable position when this european forces are deployed in ukraine and them

base their locations and. busy of their base is engaged, but by the russian forces, washington will face a very difficult challenge which i never to respond to and they involve themselves, america, that is a goal. they're not stage into a bowl, a real with russia, or a band to ensure your p, a nato allies, a choice. the prism trump certainly would want to avoid. so yeah, clearly there is talk of withdrawal of us troops occupying groups from western europe. but trump is wielding a degree of leverage against something economic leverage against east west and european countries. for other reasons. russia though, and we've been covering on this program over the past 3 years, was paying zalinski for the rent of the pipeline usage for gas into western europe

and is supplying energy still to west and europe. have windows rest, you're going to sanction the countries of west in europe. well, i don't, so i would, i would need to bet on that of europe may eventually sanction russia that completely cut off those. the member states of europe is union that are still getting gas from russia. that would be a risky move in terms of the integrity and unit, sorry to interrupt the buys it off the black market, then because it needs the energy con, supply of old united states and supply all of it. they have to, they truly desperate for original energy. right? they find that the russian war, in fact, london, breland and paris. well, let them say what they want to say, but uh, russia does need the fluid exchange. and uh, it has to be a non here, the very openly in russia, the after cutting off. uh,

gas applies to or uh, the material supplies to a, to the rest of the world that end up in, in western countries would not be uh, you know, as much moved by russia. so yes, so there is, um, a certain degree of uh, how shall i put it in consistency in this whole thing, but that we're dealing with that where they, i call it a strange wall or a wall with the unconventional features. uh, there is no war declared in ukraine. uh there is, uh, the duplicate diplomatic relations have not been officially broken just uh, no embassies at the 2 countries. and of course, uh, relations between russia and europe that are in a, in a proxy was situation. or the united states for that matter to continued uh,

throughout the 3 years of the war. yeah, it's a little bit strange for the working classes of russia, though. is it the beginning russians and these are european weapons. so when the new jobs are germany says he wants to send the new tours miss a. he means aiming to murder decalle russians. that's the old id, are in love, these russian parts of western european pods, a dad to actually target inside russia rather than the battle as well. that is, that is true. and in my view of strikes deeper inside russia, by your european or with, with, with europe, initials, and of we know that such strikes cannot proceed without the support of the nations that are provided those items. so they are essentially the sink is of the trigger, a cigarette delay and sometimes uh, literally speaking,

and up to that go through an attribution. and they help invoices in russia, many voices, persistent voices that argue that the russia should not be only targeting those ukraine is that of formerly in charge of those missiles, but to pay back to those forces in europe that are behind those on sale, those of deliveries and that intelligence delivered to recreate that enables the create the invoices to strike interruption that never materialize, which is presumably why london, for instance, is not fragments of russia and continues to talk up war and the mass killing of russians as a, as a kind of juicy i'm not sure the use of western european nations can actually launch things without the american satellites. and this guy, you know, in any sense, in any other, any other way they don't have the technology,

arguably. but how isolated then is this western european area movie. so russia and the united states voting the same way that you and how isolated you expect your up to be. and that's why i kind of said, maybe measuring sanctions on west in europe would be, would be not seen is as a place, given most of the rest of the world appears to think west in europe is the only thing standing between russia and ukraine and a peace deal to well, i think it's still too early to, to, to say that the united states has completely changed its course on ukraine, on russia. yes, we have seen that a unique case of the united states, the siding with russia against the european union during a major vote in the united nations. yes, we have seen some, we've heard some vibes coming from the white house that suggests that the approach

may be changing, but we went out there yet and there's a lot of uncertainty about the future moves and us, russian relations and future moves. and us policy to work toward russia and, and us involvement in ukraine is also something that, that is subject. it's subject to change or it's going, it's going to preserve some of the elements. so the old approach, i would say that we need to be a little bit cautious when we, uh, when we shut out what? uh, what, what concrete changes have been wrought sofa by donald trump and where he may go. yep. from a field trip down to meet you, janet, and i'll stop you, the more from a member of russia's foreign and defense policy council. after this,

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. the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with a former director of the county, the most cassandra now member of russia's foreign and defense policy council, doctor dmitri trenton, dr. trenton, you were expressing caution at the end of the one about the trump policy visa b, russia, ukraine. i mean, i've got to ask you whether uh, in the light of the fee is clearly that he's pursuing some sort of imagine re nick sony in line. i mean it's that is that because the trump administration doesn't really appreciate the times of change and the tone to between badging and most cool can no longer be split apart, like richard nixon did as well. i think so blunt, also from trump's 1st step,

dr. whitehouse not a frontal attack on this. i know russian relationship would yield a few if any results. so the they're likely to get smiled at this time. but surely they uh they believe in the white house today that it is a launch degree. the fault of the bite, the ministration. busy took on china and russia simultaneously, that venturing and moscow had been able to forge a fairly close relationship for trump. uh, it's no longer the, uh, the, the gable, but uh, id. ology is, it's no longer the collective west. uh, united by a liberal globalist ideology. taking along the quote unquote or sorry, diary and east uh, with the russia and china, the full uh,

they look at china and russia as to the 2 separate entities. they want to uh, issue different policies to reach american objectives in each case except, sorry to interrupt for that except for all the transaction ism of the job. it ministration. he was clear about bricks and they clearly expressed a desperate fear in the early days after 0 the ration of amy move away from the use of the dollar. so he's very aware of a new world order that is emerging as i think he is above to remove the ways of the dollar is something that is, is happening in rushes relations with a lot of countries simply simply because russia has been borrowed from the global dollar based financial market and russia has been using a national guard and since it has been using the rubel and it's uh,

it shifts business transactions with, with a lot of countries. and even the zap is, is often the problem, including at russia's relations with china. with regard to come on bricks colored and she, i don't think we are anywhere near that. yeah, that's the point rusher. wasted. it's time food in wasted. the time that was available to the russian federation to speed this process up. because right now, none of those bricks countries are going to want to oppose the united states that will be seen to opposing the united states by turning to non dollar trade because it will be subject to 100 percent tires as well. that's, that's true. but it's also true that even before trump, there was fairly little headway that was made that direction within bricks. um, china with its, uh, enormous uh, volume of trade relations with the united states and uh,

the european union is simply not uh, interested in risking its a position in both of those giants markets by doing something that would be with the scene as a inimical to the dollar and then it goes to the existing financial system. so similarly for india. so it's the relationship or relations within bricks of interesting. but it's not always that the, the member states of the group that takes, that has expanded recently that the day that the members of the group c i to i among themselves with regard to the major economic issues in financial issues. so we were talking about the, with the, with the brakes. we're talking about payments instruments. we're talking about

making payments. a systems work in the situation when one of the major members of the group for i you brochure is essentially ejected. trump the global financials. yeah. but that's an advantage arguably, and that would be all you be an excuse. i mean, it sounds like incompetence that during these 3 years, this arrangement wasn't sped up. i mean, what you're actually saying, i suppose is that trump has bought a new lease of life for american hegemony. perhaps even allowing to make the mineral deal with the russia over the contract, from preferential mineral rights in east and ukraine, which you'd normally have don't rush who would be making a deal with china or of the require a quiet territories would be great. a little uh, tempest changing uh is, is changing the model of american hegemony is not uh, he is not canceling american hegemony. he wants it to be more efficient. he wants

to cut spending a wants to, uh, subsidize. the america's allies in the mr. trump has not had your money bad, that's a multi polar world as smarter than about my brochure. the issue is, it's just a rush. it hasn't been up to the mark of russia is, uh, is, is, is what it is today. we can sometimes in uh, shrinking imagine that russia is a, is a soviet union and caught it. but the soviet union was accountable for about some people say, uh, one 5th and the others. 161 7th of the global g d p actually is know where that, that point today. she'll get your name had the mikey industry that turned out lots of goes a different value in quality, but many of those goods. well, we're fairly good and it has

a major technological complex that booked the soviet science and technology close to the top of the world. we are in a different position today. we're trying to do better with trying to win back. they've technological sovereignty of the soviet union had and i think that the war has a, has pushed us much further than we otherwise would have. would have been able to cover the adults. yeah. by ip be are ahead of the math. you know that somehow with what they got then then, but we are. yeah, by pvp though. and that seems to be the new indicator of the notional cvp. arguably, what about all of these $93.00 countries um by the vessel states around the world that didn't catch up in time for that united nations vote and seem to be still voting with the old colonial, most as in, in london and paris? will it take time for all the vassal states all around the world to understand that

there's no need for the rest of phobia or any more because they're masters at the i am after world bank the w t. o. i don't the way to the future of any of these multilateral organizations. they, they don't, they want peace now, unlike these isolated western european pause portion of the, of, as well. um, you said russell states, but no internet as well. of course, the only a handful of countries that can truly enjoy sovereignty and even got southern g is, is only partial. many of the country is that you're a venture and or let's say many, many with the 93 that you venture depend on. uh, one way, one way or another on the europeans. uh, some would still depend,

uh, maybe it would still depend on the united states including the europeans. but the united states, at this point has uh, not tried to uh, to make sure that all its vassal states would vote with, with the u. s. united states. uh, did not. uh, the uh, the on the europeans did not give an order to its vassals, to use your language, to make sure that they aligned themselves with the matter with the new american position. the united states has just changed its own position and is arguing with, with, with, in europe is about the wisdom of that position. so it's not as it is not as simple as the does, it does it sometimes as, as, as it sometimes sometimes it looks also let me,

let me underline one important issue. many of the country is of the, with the bricks group, including china and india. did not vote with russia on that very important issue of the chinese and in just abstain. they have their own reasons why they upstate, you know that, but they've always been abstaining on the, on the, on that issue of probably because of the issue of territorial integrity. a national sovereignty involve ability. voters is a, is an issue that resumes very much in their own countries and their own societies. but the truth is that the country is whom you would include normally among rushes best partners. and from here, i'm still taking a neutral stance on the,

on the very important issue. very important for russian. yeah, i presume president, she and right minister moody, a tipped off a president, putin, about that you didn't get ortega of nicaragua. it should be known as well. as the president of eritrea, what happens and all the russians preparing for not only in 4 years time when trump goes. but if trump is killed, there will be an assassination attempt already. because so much of it seems to revolve around one figure who is dismantling this so called deep state to be united states, which has tried to destroy democracy all around the world so that as opposed russian interests, chinese interest interests. if they go out and do this, it's remarkable, it's, it's, it's truly remarkable. they, they're, she a power of a one trusting and the u. s. a. there was a joke. surely plus years ago when the soviet union, i trust,

introduced a deposition of a president. and a russian journalist, a sub jo can be that the deductible presence of the president of the soviet union was as absurd as the title of the 8 shaw of the united states of america. to that the donald trump, just what 5 weeks, 6 weeks after his inauguration has behaved more like us all in america and very interestingly is not being much opposed to happen if your portrayal things are they happen if you know the statements by a mesh the state officials in the, in the us, but otherwise has been more or less running without very little opposition within, within the united states. if, if something happens to trump, of course,

the american constitution provides for the vice president to take all but in that sense of the uh, the assassination of trump. prior to the election. um, what else? uh, knocked out. uh, mike, you should go buy 2 political sake uh uh, leaving a void in his place. uh today if something god forbid happens to donald trump, it will be succeeded. you close by uh, by j. uh, by j. d. that's demetrius had to kind of the both the guy and he is all right, kind of have to stop it. there is always be general secondary to us. no, thank you very much. go ahead. i'll try that. thank you. you're welcome. that's it for this year. i will be back on monday with the quincy institute for responsible state graft professor out at all leaving, but until then came into trouble. i social media and so on. sense, i'm your country and that drive channel going. i was going to be hon dot com to let you know that it's such a going undergrad. see him under the

stuff for the summer shift for the optics event such as you the color the vehicle. is it economic go to model, have us it's different this time next time and see if it doesn't figured testify this thing and say ok, then you must sort of feel one gives us the compliance i'm doing which comes up developing bio chemical weapons inside you create the

guns good to watch the news move in the solution, you know way some cheaper to use the white glove service cost, but he's because of the same issue because the right now or was time is neglected. there's a need not to abandon the other stuff because my fear is that it was due to the bottom dollar funds. one point o when i was son, was neglected, and 911 having the the

big trouble. no, no, not a lot of talk. it's your country is in big trouble. i know you're not, you're not winning this live and world wide. it's a smack down in dc team trunk. putting that landscape basically it is a place kind of came to leave the white house. i'm his dream is for a deal with washington. as well as the exit stage, right is resource mineral deal with trump is left unassigned, basically leaving the main goal of his trip to america. accomplished before all the developments in washington we spoke about was on the table for the landscape with right now and economist jeffries. so i'm still coming to washington. it is kind of prophetic way to sign over in almost a meaningless document. the minerals have.