the, the big trouble? no, no, not a lot of talk. it's your country is in big trouble. i know you're not, you're not winning this live and world wide. it's a smack down in dc team trunk. putting that landscape basically in his place, telling him to leave the white house on his dreams for a deal with washington. and as well as the exit stage, right is resource mineral deal with trump is left on his side basically leaving the main goal of his trip to america. an accomplished of all the developments in washington. we spoke about what's on the table for the landscape with right now and economist jeffries. so i'm still coming to washington. it is kind of prophetic way to sign over in almost a meaningless document, the mineral half the mineral rights. this is just sad,

desperate confuse behavior. this is not the strategy. this is not national policy, this is not continuing award. this has been a lot to not think the saturday morning pride. i know the here at most ago, you're not going to believe some of the story is rippling around the world today. it's good to have your company here or not. and so, so sorry for you right now and straight to the office. we go out the door is what wide open the cameras. well, most certainly rolling savanski apparently didn't get the memo. the team trump, the mountains, respect, ukrainian narrative doesn't fly in the us anymore. what makes america a good country? is america engaging in diplomacy? that's what president trump is doing, can ask you. sure. yeah, yeah. okay. so what do you mean? i'm talking about the kind of diplomacy this going to in the destruction of your country. but he's mr. president. mr. president with respect, i think it's disrespectful for you to come to the oval office to try to litigate

this in front of the american media. we're trying to solve a problem. don't tell us what we're going to feel. i'm not telling you, i'm sort of no physician, reject taste, the deer in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. you again, lied single radiance of people seeing you gambling with world war 3. and what you're doing is very, just disrespectful to the country. this country, i'm the you that to you are more than a lot of people said were they should have you have continued big trouble getting an hour or so. no, no, get done. a lot of talking. your country is in big trouble. i know you're not really no, you're not winning this from the very beginning of the war. we've been alone and we have sampled. i said, since you haven't been on the cabinet, the bill on the scale you gave you said that president, 350000000000 dollar you will you for your military equipment then you tell us i don't want a ceasefire. i don't want us to spire that was we the a guy named bite and who is not a smart person. this is going to be great television. i will say making great

television indeed at the cameras with most certainly rolling of the ukrainian a boss that if the u. s. was a front incentive to see it. oh, no. need to take notes on this one. it's probably not fit to printing care of face palm, basically says it old is that lensky in one fell swoop, was able to the rail relations with washington. and with the highlight reel of the fire exchange really on loop worldwide, a trump spoke with the press and the highlights of the obvious, the meeting did not go well as america is looking for pace. and so lensky is on the other end of the spectrum. we had a meeting today as you know, with president zalinski, and i would say it didn't work out exactly great. from this standpoint. very much over plate is as we're looking for piece. we're not looking for somebody that's going to sign up as strong power and then not make face because they've deals in bold and then that's what i. so after that, i'm looking for

a piece. what i'd like you to go into a 10 year war and play games. we want peace had it was just by a price or that we do that we sign up is looking for something that i'm not looking for is looking to go on and fight $55.00. we're looking to end the depth president food is going to want to make and he wants to make. he wants to end this bad. you so what i so today this is amanda. once they get us signed up and keep fighting and we're not doing that, you can in bold and somebody that does not have the cards and all of a sudden that person says, oh, well, now i could do friday. i guess we're not going to keep fighting. you're going to get the war done or let them go and see what happens. let them fight it out. what i made this entire full out, the question does remain if indeed the ukrainian resource deal is even still on the table. the key of delegation report we spent about an hour waiting on the sidelines, hoping the agreement still have a chance to be signed in washington whitmore is this the local journalist killable

. and there was a huge amount of anticipation of today's meeting, where donald trump net with ukrainian liter zalinski. the intended purpose of the meeting was to discuss a mineral deal wherever new friends, natural resources. however, as the meeting on folded, it didn't go the way many had expected. now, in the lead up to the meeting, donald trump and his vice president j. d. vance had both criticized zelinski, calling him a dictator and saying that he needed to have an election if he expected to be treated as the legitimate president of the country. but think of it a modestly successful comedian presidential landscape. talk the united states of america into spending $350000000000.00 to go into war 2 refuses of elections is slow and the real ukrainian falls. and then how can you be hi,

with us. every city is being demolished, charge of the i, somebody said, oh no, it falls a good. give me a break. a dictator with that elections. so lensky better move fast, or he's not going to have a country left. got to move. gotta move fast. in addition to that, j. d vance, and marco rubio have recently spoken about the word zelinski and how they do not appreciate the way he's referred to the commander in chief prizes. lensky, his country wouldn't exist without the generosity of the united states of america. so say thank you, and if you disagree with the president, pick up the phone and call him or call one of our great diplomats. don't go in and media tour around europe. bad, mousing the for as united states. it's insulting, it's insulting to him. it's insulting to me, it's insulting to the american people and by the way, it's stupid. i think president trump is very upset, present zelinski, and i and some case, and rightfully so. look. number one, joe biden had frustrations was the landscape. people shouldn't forget it or a newspaper articles out there about how he cursed adam and a phone call. because zalinski, instead of saying thank you for all your help,

is immediately out there messaging what we're not doing or what he's not getting the american taxpayers have unloaded hundreds of billions of dollars into the framing and conflicts. and much of what trump seem to be saying to the ukrainian leader was we want our money back and the mineral deal that was supposed to be signed today was arranged so that roughly $500000000000.00 could be returned to the united states as a result, of the mineral resources and the revenue coming in from them. but that deal was not signed. i hear that i hear that he's coming on friday. certainly it's okay with maybe like to and he would like to sign it together with me and i understand that's a big deal for a big deal. and i'd say to the american people, even if you look and following, they're very happy because you know, by the way, throwing money around like it's cotton, candy and. busy it's a, it's a very big deal. it could, it could be a trillion dollar deal. it could be whatever,

but it's rivers and other things. fancy red carpets and standing ovations that were previously rolled out for the ukranian. leaders seem to be gone. donald trump made a point of contrasting his approach with that of his predecessor and zelinski left the white house empty handed with no mineral deal. caleb mauppin, washington d. c. just so much to talk about in this conversation, let's draw another from the bruno right now. a gold state analytic of risk consulting. wow. alejandro. thanks so much for coming on. this is just, i mean, you know, did you, did you run out of popcorn when you are watching all of this? because you know, so landscape is finally finding himself in the firing line. the way withdrawal shopping saying is what we saw in the oval office. i mean, if apparently it all went up in smoke, i guess i wanted to ask you who blew it. that sounds good. what, what does it lensky or was it trump? well, i, i'm sorry, i'm still trying to come to terms to add as to what really happened, because i think it was a trap. i think

a trump and the bands were waiting for that lensky and had the, the fire power ready to go. because i don't think there was ever any resorts deal on the table simply because ukraine doesn't. first of all, the rare or i don't know where they got that information from 1st rare or not. that rare and rare arts are do not exist in any exploitable form right now. in ukraine. there are probably deposits. yes. because there are deposits in many parts of the world. uh um, but uh they require billions of investments. and even if you did invest billions into a rare or its mind before they started to produce the kind of value that you can get close to $500000000000.00, it would take the decades. so that that was, i think, attract that was a trap. and skeet?

yeah, yeah, sorry, i'm like i was just going to jump in explain the trap ferry, so may play. well, the landscape is going around europe. badmouthing. the united is the current administration. and, and the message that trump wanted to send is we're seeing a different to, so we're going to embarrass him in front of his own country. and because the top knows that lensky isn't truly the power behind all this, he lensky is the front. and he's the public figure, but really there are other so called politicians, actually not politicians. we know that, you know, the, the, the as a fatality and others that are truly in command and zalinski and on top of all that has not called for new elections. he's going to resign in may, so it's already, he's already on. he's running, he's already on bar of time. yeah. so i think trump wanted to make it clear,

most especially perhaps to president, to, to, is that he's very serious about terminating this conflict and getting on a new relationship with russia. and he was also sending a very clear message to you or we will see what happens on monday. yeah, i, i can't wait to see kind of call us his face. oh my goodness, why the face kaya? yes. because the baltic states that have been put in charge of europe in the past 5 years or it's not longer. so i'm, but i couldn't believe the insults to bind and i've never seen any you was president. so clearly that was a trouble, i understand, but it wasn't the small value of a fight and was on his mind. let me see what he said to me. can you look at this exchange of that sound good when the would offer somebody trump's body language set a lot? there was a lot of just yeah, t, elation going on with our hands flying around at one point i thought he was just

gonna slap savanski across the mug. a well, i mean campus taking on the world wrestling federation of boss. so, so that he's taken on every single major politician in the us and in various campaigns. you know, the 1st in 2000, 1516 and then the last, the recent one. he's not going to be shy about the telling someone of what he thinks of them, but also it's interesting bands i don't think come over harris or any other vice president has ever. i've never seen a vice president and the president act in concert. you have to gather attacking. they were, it was like a, well, i was bullied in high school, so i, i got it. you know that people like that much so tied to your near, near the end of lockers. so, um, it was the double whammy. you know, yeah, that area. i mean, they think they definitely teamed up on it,

but i think i think you make sure i didn't find you know about about this trap series that you know, the cult bring them over there to kind of it was sent to kind of expose him to the american public as an n. yes. and also we've had a president mccomb and president start and time. is there storm or in the same week with just one day after another. yeah. culminating with the car and that was also a message. and i had more is johnson was very hopeful, the one to read it literally a girl losing all of us on the macro and came out of us, put his hand on trumps. ne. gave him a big smile for the cameras. and then it was kissed alma and by the way, there's a, there's a great clip of clear cast, almost speaking to the press and a one point to says, okay, that's enough. got sent off. i mean, he caught soft. yes. tom, i mean, i just, the, you know, honestly, where's my pop going all over again? tell me this. i'll assign joe so lensky. you know, you say he's on borrowed time. what do you foresee for the future? so landscape as well? if i were him, i would pack my bags because i,

i don't think he's useful anymore to, to the people who need to have use that. it's time for him to go. he's got plenty of houses around the world to choose from. much money was siphoned off for, for, for himself. and the people are, you know, at the top is the staff in his enterprise. so it's time to go, he's not a politician. he was, he was essentially continuing the role that he had a on the, on that tv show, the name of which i forget right now. um, but, and into reality and now it's over. now my tradition, i'm, i'm projecting this and i, it could be very wrong, but there's an instinct that tells me that the trump may eventually play even someone like that on yahoo. in the same way, i think he's living that's on yahoo. have a loose hand until one until he gets to to he goes

too far. yeah. let me know who has incredible plans that i've heard to him today. he wants to take this, essentially expand to uh to take all the stuff that syria, um the fact to i wonder what trump is going to do. because it's, it's really big is the only big kind of monkey on the back of this administration. this type of problems such as i n, s, and e, so apparently proactive in yahoo. but you know that this is it. i think you make a very good point because you know, the is ready involving as the most powerful lobby in washington. so maybe he is, he is just kind of biding his time before he plays in some way. he plays nothing. yahoo like it clearly plates the landscape. it's out there a lot of times i the final comment. well, we have, sam has nothing to lose. he doesn't have to run for re election. so i think 3 is going to give, let loose every single of the passions that he has political passion that he has left. yeah. and he is not going to pull back. yeah, that is a shame. i mean,

i truly believe he's serious about ending this war and i think the president put in most importantly, understands this fully. know. yeah, well maybe we can progress. just wrapping this off at a sound throw, you know, you talked about, you know, so that if you having enough houses around the world, i understand they're, they're on confront reports. he has to a norm as your sparked off the french riviera coast. he's also got reportedly a big vineyard in tuscany, so you know, he's got all sorts of options to go to amazon. lovely. it's, it's a incredible. if i were him, i would be already enjoying these routes. yeah, well i mean i want to get off the radar alliston, but i mean he's, he's, he's upset so many, many people in the world. he needs to kind of go somewhere. well, secure. i don't blame him. i think he's still playing a role. i don't know, i, we don't really know what the legs get truly thinks the landscape was born in the soviet union. he speaks russian. that's his normal language. so uh, well, uh, he said he's been, he's been up front about housing that he's been

a fraud man. for, for all of this, but the truth. well that's true. power is behind the scenes. i listen to the next time that we've got to talk for longer, unless under bruno is our risk consulting from gulf states under linux. thank you very much for your time and country today. thank you. thanks. bye bye. what happens that had a chance to speak with around economists, jeffrey sachs, about what is a very complex relationship between ukraine, america and the you have a listen. you are the so he's got trapped by following the united states, getting a blind kind of way and just trying to be the great cheer leader of us a gemini. i obviously the whole us approach. the unit polar approach was delusional . what happened during the last 30 years? i'm going to put it because this is a 30 year us project is that the united states said, were you in a polar, we do what we want. we expand militarily, where we want, we expand our influence,

where we want i, in 2008 the us said, now we move made over to ukraine to georgia. i and a, this is a replay, by the way of the pride, me in more of 185321856, almost a, almost almost at the blueprint. and russia said, no, i, that's not going to happen. i. the point is, europe got into line with it. the u. s. a strategist if i could call them that. it's a, it's an exaggeration in my view. but the us strategist said when, because we're all powerful, what can do do what kind of russia do nothing. and they thought up until the end, and i know what they thought because i talked with them i heard from them. i watched the what they were saying. this was a group in, in essence playing a game. i would say i'm the american side, which is we can do what we want, right?

that isn't the case. they, they lost that damage. the ukrainians, proud directly of followed that line, i called the ukrainians. of course, everyone knows kissinger's famous line that to be anatomy of america is dangerous to be a friend of america is fatal. i explained that to them, you're going to be like afghanistan. well, here we are. you know, they followed the us euro followed the us. now they don't know quite what to do. yeah, but you know, so i'm still coming to washington in this kind of pathetic way to sign over in almost a meaningless document, the mineral half the mineral rights. this is just sad, desperate, confused behavior. this is not strategy, this is not national policy, this is not continuing award. this is not nothing. the latest talks in istanbul, following the discussions and react between the russian and american officials,

we are witnessing, as you said, moments ago, a reproach monkey. do you really think there's a chance that a true piece can be arranged between bruton and trump, regardless all the noisy chihuahuas in your? well, 1st of all, a true peace can be arranged for a fundamental reason. there is no fundamental conflict between the united states and russia, so there is no fundamental reason for conflict. if the us had not asserted you in a polarity after 1991, there would be no conflict if in december 19, 2021 is i begging to divide white house a negotiated with president pulling on the draft us russian security arrangement that to the table on december 15th 2021. negotiate there would be no war. there is no direct reason for conflict. there is reason for trade. there is reason out

they'll be competition and other things. but conflict, of course, not the same is true with europe. if europe would open its eyes, it's hard with europe is 27 independent conferees. they can't think clearly as a major power in a unified way. but if they could, they would have just a direct counterpart relationship with russia. and ukraine would be so much safer as the neutral state that it was that would have protected ukraine. because neutrality is not a danger. neutrality is a protection asked sweden, finland austria during the decades that it had neutrality, not the nato period of the last year. this is ridiculous, they were safe with him. trial of the austria's safe with neutrality. but they chose the block approach that's on the safe. well of the world wash in or is

ukraine's relations of america, just unraveled on live tv. they cheated back and forth reached new levels. so let's be started lecturing. trump how american needs to be concerned for its own safety. it really was seemingly out of failed to record in broad daylight. so what is the basically looking for, and wherever is it going to be a year from now? i will look at our website to go to china. now, here on the program with the nation's top diplomats greeted russia is the security council secretary as he touched down and paging. so gauge, troy goes, trip centering around russia. china relations during pulse with the chinese president. now is that both nations are leaders gearing up an exchange of state presidential visits uh, economic collaboration with tooth continues to redirect what high, roughly, what nearly $250000000000.00 and bilateral trade rushes natural gas expos, of course, of fueling the factory of the world adults also included the potential resolution

of ukraine, as well as the drums hotline sconce towards china. well, that's lot more for 5 now to see g, t and digital report of an international analyst shun issue. and now joining us here when i see grades gets you on sure, and thanks so much for coming on. what were the main topics of the discussion between president g and the, and the russian secretary of the security council sort of a showing. okay, thank you for having me here. actually from the read out of the chinese for mr. i think we have too many issues we should focus on. the 1st one is about the balance of relations as presidency emphasized to size truth mentioned, close communication at all levels. to fully implement a consent sense raced by that you had of states. and the 2nd one is about the agenda in boucher relations. as we know, the c, r marks, the eighteens the eighty's and the most array of the victories of the chinese people is full of resistance against the japanese of michigan. the soviet union is a great, substantial arctic well and the bald and 2 projects as well as well as eighty's and

the most rail deformed the of the united nations. so in such a year of special historical significance, china, russian relations will definitely embrace a series of important attend. this should how, how would you assess the current level of partnership between these 2 economies? we just threw around a number of about $250000000000.00 approximately. what can you tell us? yes, as we mentioned the, the numbers actually all according to transfer, the customer states are released on january. the trade between china and russia. rates in rank high. and so here i want to say that china and russia have mentioned to know more trade and the trader violations. and also china, roger trades rose a many fields by energy, industrial products that been a premium post people. so actually based on the quality and the mutual benefits of economic and trade exchanges between the 2 countries, have a, by the rules of international trade and is also served the interest of both people

and at the words as large other, i mean obviously paging is going to be keeping a close watch, but you know, rusher is talking with america right now face to face for the 1st time in a good few years. we're kind of witnessing what many according to our approach mall between moscow and washington. does china have any issues, any concerns about russia and america resuming dialog? an action here, i would like to emphasize that to trying out rush, a comprehensive, strategic partner of this kind of relation is characterized by not a lions non confrontation and not targeting by any 3rd party. so of course will not be affected by and it sort party. so that's what i was trying to transition to be said on many occasions, history and realities show that china and the restaurant to neighbors that cannot move away and true friends who shares the wheels and to support each other and that

you common development. so here i would like to quote a try and saying that a close and they were, can be more helpful for that as now. are these spend the relative to actually for china? well, very glad to see that all efforts committed to peace, including what has upgrades on peace dogs between the us and china, and between the us and the russia. of course our china has always maintained stones of neutrality, but always insisting that it must be a peaceful resolution to the ongoing conflict in ukraine. it certainly seems we are on the brink of perhaps achieving it's such a resolution ocean. she ways i've seen gt; and digital reporter and international analysts. joining us through analogy international, thank you very much for your time and commentary. thank you for having me here to thank you for joining a safe this program live for most of us just about nearly half past 8 on saturday morning. we're just getting warmed up. any more stories till the come when he returns the

. it's a great privilege and a great on a to welcome in here onto the channel on oxy international columbia university professor economist public policy analyst with a hill in washington likes to call you a criminal in mouthpiece hello jeffrey sachs. good to be with you. how are you? i'm very well indeed. it's great to have you on the program. you know that speech, you just gave the other day of the you call them and it was a bit of a school to speech. i've got to tell you, i mean you really sucked it to him that jeffrey. um, was it just a case of stone cold stairs? what did you get any love from those in attendance as well, from those independent so things were fine. it's a, it's those that weren't in attendance, but i'm hoping i made some contact with europe. but as i emphasized it needs to

have a european foreign policy. it needs to re engage with russia. it needs to have normal diplomacy. i, europe is his original $450000000.00 people in the union, a 20 trillion dollar economy, a complimentary to the russian economy. they should be trading and mutually prosperous instead a, it's, everything's broken down and the, the, the hate talk is non stop. so that was the point that i was making get back to something that can possibly work. yeah for, for everybody. yeah. some kind of return to common sense. you know, we're hoping but that's the speech you gave jeffrey the problem and it's sending ripples is and ripples around the world. i've seen so many people reacting to this . and i just want to say on a personal level, i really admire that what you've been doing, you've been such a busy man these days on air, on line to the parliament. you didn't just give you scores to a speech of the parliament. you've been drilling down on your ups foreign policy. of course, as trump and j. d volumes have taken out how to these traditional ties across the

atlantic. what are your expectations going forward for your of jeffrey kennedy? do you think it really can be independent of washington? i think it can and should be, although i got an e mail just a few minutes ago by a very knowledgeable person said you're dreaming. i your, your will never be unified. i, you know, i don't think we should ever say never about the foreign policy and about what's possible. this is one of my understandings, partly from my own lifetime experience, partly from my reading of history, partly from the events of just the last few weeks. who would have thought that the united states and russia would be in a real wrapper small, which they are? well, i would have, by the way, because i kept saying during divide administration, you're making a terrible mistake. this is a complete blunder. there's no reason for this war. there is no reason for the

breakdown of relations. and i think the guy, what donald trump is said as he came into office was he doesn't want to hold the losing hand abide was right. right. so to my mind, things can change europe, but oh, it is got trapped by following the united states in a blind kind of way. and just trying to would be the great cheer leader of us, a gemini. obviously, the whole us approach, the unipolar approach was delusional. it's ended. now you're a pass to get attacked together. is it possible it is not a way possible? i it, it. i even think it's going to happen because what else is you're going to do just be $27.00 bickering divided the countries in.