the, the time action retentive, welcome to going underground rule cussing around the world from the u. a. up to friday, scheduled visit to the white house by zelinski, or as donald trump calls him, the dictator of ukraine. so lensky off to seeing maybe a 1000000 of his people killed is now officially signed a way, a defeated ukraine's resources to the usa. well, this of the following visits to trump from polish, french and british class of state leaders who run countries without freedom. according to us, vice president j. the funds democracy, the anniversary of rushes moved deliberate on yes, cocky goods on your hands. because i have and separation are the usa in russia. it voted to the un against public countries like britain, france, and germany. much of the world is united against any economic li, suicidal, european rump. if you raise your hand that prompted to slash social spending and pull money into wolf or the country of hamlet, denmark suggested peace was more dangerous than war. and britain sakina as thomas

signal sending most of the british army to defective fight russia. all this while west asia tried to cope with a video posted by trump depicting human netanyahu composing over the bones of the biden genocide in gaza. and moscow, again, is the form of the attendant, connell in this obvious and russian non forces. talk with imagery, training these on russians foreign and defense policy council. what does that mean? con was so good that a russian on the show of to so many people from the american side, you know, we had the trump, the deputy assistant on the other day, semester and gorka. so, um, i mean from as being saying off and on. it's possible there is some presence of western european nato troops allowed in ukraine. and the 2nd level, the foreign minister said, no. so what will happen to the soldiers if they turn up their, i mean, right now they're in my 6, they're in british special forces in ukraine. what will happen to these troops if

they turn up the well, if 3 help them to come without rushes approval, which is not forthcoming, as, as we see, they may become targets for russian strikes. and that would involve a, those countries into a direct and immediate military conflict where the russian federation, i hope that the, the rulers of european country is consider that seriously because. busy it's too long before it's too late, but you've been saying what's being coming out of the mouths of these are your p and the leads increasingly, and popular with their own populations. in recent weeks, they clearly see rusher as the enemy. they believe russia has designs on london and paris, and they seem to think that the by, even separating from the united states, they can take on russia as well. i'm not quite sure of the last thing you said

because of the presence of european forces in ukraine hypothetical at this point was predicated by european leaders on the support of the united states. so, and they're all in all need. those europeans would want to have american backend. this is something that's present. trump is at least for now. unwilling to extend and i don't think frankly that this position of the american president will change . but we're seeing so many reckless moves by europeans during this week. busy or the essentially made them almost direct participants in the conflict. and they're helping groves of warning directed out them by pros, in fulton,

last year when they were on the verge of supply and your trade was long range, missiles. and those missiles indeed was supplied. although they were used to more or less than they in the, was on not striking much deeper into russia in most cases. but uh, i do not trust the european leaders personally. whereas making a, um, you know, serious uh, uh, decisions about, about military matters. i think that. busy many of what they decide upon is a, is reckless and laden with lots of risks for their own countries. and uh that, uh, that is, it goes for most concern. clearly based on their words, people execute a stomach that they're not worried that upfront and of the russian nuclear deterrent. but then you as a mosque who is able to trust with verification,

washington to a certain degree. and of course there's a timeliness to this. what's the point of any sign the agreement? if your opinion leaders continue to be the way they are? oh, just the, the russian leadership in the russian government think that you are both full in line as they normally do as puppet states of washington. because at the moment they, they seem to be at odds with washington. and there is that there is that rump of your raise you between the pressure and the atlantic ocean and the united states as well. i think that at the end of the day, the europeans will have no alternative but to side with washington or follow washington. they don't have the resources they did. they don't have to, well, uh, for an independent security policy and independent foreign policy in the, to

a sense of the word and the options or presence of american backing for the risk. a potential risk it moves in ukraine is critical for them. so i think that they will rather not challenge washing done on that issue because the washington will be put in an uncomfortable position when dis european forces are deployed in ukraine and then they, their locations and their base is engaged by, by the russian forces. washington will face a very difficult challenge which i never to respond to and they involve themselves. america, that is a goal united stage into a bowl. a real with russia was

a band it sure european major allies choice. the prism trump certainly would want to avoid. so yeah, clearly there is talk of withdrawal of us troops occupying troops from western europe, but trump is wielding a degree of leverage against something economic leverage against east west and european countries. for other reasons. russia though, and we've been covering on this program over the past 3 years, was paying zalinski for the rent of the pipeline usage for gas into western europe and is supplying energy still to west and europe have. when is rest, you're going to sanction the countries of west in europe? well, i don't say i would, i wouldn't bet on that of europe may eventually sanction russia that completely cut off those. the member states of europe is union that are still getting gas from russia. that would be a risky move in terms of the integrity and unit,

sorry to interrupt the advice at off the black market. them because it needs the energy con, supply of old united states on supply all of it. they have to, they truly desperate to original energy. right? they find as the russian war, in fact, london, breland and paris will let them say what they want to say. but the pressure does need the fluid exchange and uh, it has to be not here, the very openly in russia, the after cutting off a gas supplies to or other were rolling material supplies to the, to the rest of the world that end up in, in western countries would not be uh, you know, a small move by russia. so yes, so there is of a sudden the debris opener. so how shall i put it in consistency in this whole thing. but we're dealing with whether they to call it

a strange wall or a wall with the unconventional features. uh, there is no war declared in ukraine. uh theres uh the duplicate diplomatic relations have not been officially broken. just uh, no, no embassies at the 2 countries. and of course, uh, relations between russia and europe that are in a, in a proxy war situation or the united states for that matter. still continued uh, throughout the 3 years of the war. yeah, it's a little bit strange for the working classes of russian, though. is it the beginning russians and these are european weapons. so when the new chancellor, germany says he wants to send the new tours me. so he means aiming to murder decalle russians. that's the whole idea are in love, these russian parts of western european pods, a dad to actually target inside russia rather than the battle as

well. that is, that is true in the, in my view of strikes deep and inside russia, by your european or with, with, with your initials. and we know that such strikes cannot proceed without the support of the nations that are provided those items. so they are essentially the same is of the trigger, a cigarette delay and sometimes uh, literally speaking, and up to that goes to an attribution. and they help invoices in russia, many voices, persistent voices that argue that the russia should not be only targeting those ukrainians. that uh, formerly in charge of those missiles, but to pay back to those forces in europe that are behind those on sale those off deliveries. and that intelligence delivered to recreate that enables that

you create the invoices to strike interruption, that never materialize, which is presumably why london, for instance, is not fragment of russia and continues to talk up war and the mass killing of russians as a, as a kind of juicy, i'm not sure the use of western european nations can actually launch things without the american satellites. and this guy, you know, in any sense, in any other, any other way they don't have the technology, arguably. but how isolated then is this western european area, i mean, we saw a russia and the united states voting the same way that you and how isolated you expect your up to be. and that's why i kind of said, maybe version sanctions on west and europe would be, would be not seen is as a place, given most of the rest of the world appears to think west and europe is the only thing standing between a washer and ukraine and a peace deal as well. i think it's still too early to, to,

to say that the united states has completely changed its course on ukraine, on russia. yes, we have seen that a unique case of the united states citing with russia against the european union during a major vote in the united nations. yes, we have seen some, we've heard some vibes coming from the white house that suggest that the approach may be changing, but uh, we went out there yet and there's a lot of uncertainty about the future moves and us russian relations and future moves. and us policy to work toward russia and, and us involvement in ukraine is also something that, that is subject. it's subject to change or it's going,

it's going to preserve some of the elements. so the old approach, i would say that we need to be a little bit cautious when we, uh, when we show up out what uh, what, what concrete changes have been ruled sofa by donald trump and where he may go yet from a field trip down to major janet and i'll stop you, the more from a member of russia's for an indefensible, as it counts, a lot of his break, the lease of come to the russian states never. i've side as i'm one of the most sense

community best ingles, all sense and up the in the system must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin, the machine, the state on the russians per day and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say even twist which is the, the, the, the welcome back to going undergrad. i'm still here with a former director of the county of the most cassandra now member of russia's

foreign and defense policy council, dr. dimitri trend and dr. trenton you were expressing caution at the end of the one about the trump policy, visa v. russia. ukraine. i mean, i've got to ask you whether uh, in the light of the fee is clearly that he's pursuing some sort of imagine re nick sony in line. i mean it's that is that because the trump administration doesn't really appreciate the times of change and the tone between badging and most cool can no longer be split apart, like richard nixon did as well. i think so blunt, also from trump's 1st stand at the white house, not a frontal attack on the side. no russian relationship would yield a few if any results. so the they're likely to get smiled at this time. but surely they, uh, they believe in the white house today that it is uh,

your last degree, the fault of the bite, the ministration that took on china and russia simultaneously. that the venturing and moscow had been able to forge a fairly close relationship for trump. uh, it's no longer the, uh, the, the gable, but uh, id, ologies, it's no longer the collective west. uh, united by a liberal globalist ideology, taking along the quote unquote, all sort, diarrhea and east uh, with that russia and china to full. because they look at china and russia as to the 2 separate entities. they want to pursue different policies to reach american objectives in each case except, sorry to interrupt for that also for all the transaction is i'm of the job. it

ministration. he was clear about bricks and he clearly expressed a desperate fear in the early days after the organization of amy move away from the use of the dollar. so he's very aware of a new world order that is emerging as, uh, i think he is, but uh, the move away from the dollar is something that is uh, is happening. uh, it rushes relations with a lot of countries simply simply because russia has been borrowed from the global dollar based financial market. and russia has been using a national guard and sees it has been using the rubel. and it's uh, it shifts business transactions with, with a lot of countries. and even the zap is, is often the problem, including at russia's relations with china with regard to come on bricks colored and she, i don't think we are anywhere near that. yeah, that's the point rusher. wasted. it's time food in wasted. the time that was

available to the russian federation to speed this process up. because right now, none of those bricks countries are going to want to oppose the united states that will be seen to opposing the united states by turning to non dollar trade because it will be subject to 100 percent tariffs as well. that's, that's true. but it's also true that even before trump, there was fairly little headway that was made in that direction within bricks. um, china with its, uh, enormous uh, volume of trade relations with the united states and uh, the european union is simply not uh, interested in uh, the risk game. it's a position in both of those giant markets by doing something that would be, would be seen as a inimical to the dollar. and then they go to the existing site national system. so

similarly for india. so it's the relationship relations within bricks of interesting. but it's not always that the member states of the group that takes, that has expanded recently that they, that the members of the group c i to i a button themselves with regard to the major economic issues in financial issues. so we're, we're talking about uh, with the, with the brakes. we're talking about payments instruments. we're talking about making payments. a systems work in a, in the situation where one of the major members of the group for i you brochure is essentially ejected. trump the global financials. yeah. but that's an advantage arguably, and that would be it all you be an excuse. i mean,

it sounds like incompetence that during these 3 years, this arrangement wasn't sped up. i mean, what you're actually saying, i suppose is that trump has bought a new lease of life for american hegemony. perhaps even allowing to make the mineral deal with the russia over the contracts from preferential mineral rights in east and ukraine, which you'd normally have don't rush who would be making a deal with china rover the re require a quiet territories would be great. the as well uh, tempest changing uh is changing the model of american hegemony is not. he's not counseling. american hegemony. he wants it to be more efficient. he wants to got a spending a wants to subsidize the americans that lives in the trump. that's not your money. by that's a multi polar world, as spoken about my rush or the issue is, it's just a rush or it hasn't been up to the mark of russia is, uh, is, is,

is what it is today. we can sometimes in uh, shrinking imagine that russia is a, is a soviet union in cottage, but the soviet union was accountable for about some people say, uh, one 5th and the others. 161 7th of the global g d p. especially is know, well that, that point today showed that you didn't have the mikey industry that turned out lots of goes a different value in quality, but to many of those goods. what failed to good. and it had a major technological complex that booked the soviet science and technology close to the top of the world. we are in a different position today. we're trying to do better with trying to win backs, new technological solve. and indeed the soviet union had. and i think that the

war has a, has pushed us much further than we otherwise would have. would have been able to cover the adults. yeah. by ip be are ahead of the matthew and that somehow we. busy bigger than then, but we are, yeah, by pvp though. and that seems to be the new indicator of the notional gdp. arguably . what about all these $93.00 countries um, by the vessel states around the world that didn't catch up in time for that united nations vote and seems to be still voting with the old colonial, most as in, in london and paris. will it take time for all the vassal states all around the world to understand that it is no need for the rest of phobia or any more because the masters at the i am after will bank the w 2? i don't the way to the future of any of these multi lateral organizations. they, they don't, they want peace now. unlikely is isolated western european pause portion of the,

of as well. um you said russell states, but um, no internet as well. of course, the only a handful of countries that can truly enjoy sovereignty. and even that sold entry is only partial uh, many of the country is that uh, your venture door lets say many, many within the 93 that you venture uh, depend on, uh, one way in one way or another on your dns. uh, some would still depend, maybe it would still get down to the united states, including video dns, but the united states. uh, at this point has uh, not tried to uh to make sure that all its vassal states would vote with, with the u. s. united states, uh,

did not. uh, the, uh, the on the europeans did not give an order to reach vassals to use your language, to make sure that they aligned themselves with the matter with the new american position. the united states has just changed its own position. and is arguing, uh where, where, where do your p is about the wisdom of that position. so it's not, as it's not as simple as it does, it does it sometimes as, as, as it's something new. sometimes it looks also let me, let me underline one important issue. many of the country is of the, with the bricks group, including china and india. they did not vote with russia on that very important issue of the chinese of the in just abstain. they

have their own reasons why they upstate, you know that, but they've always been abstaining on the on, on that issue of probably because of the issue of jo dory. busy integrity of national sovereignty involve ability, voters is a, is an issue that resumes very much in their own countries in their own societies. but the truth is that the country is whom you would include normally among rushes best partners and firms are still taking a neutral stance on the, on the very important issue. very important for russian. yeah, i presume president she and by minister moody, a tipped off, a president preaching about that you didn't get ortega of nicaragua. it should be known as well as the president of eritrea. what happens and all the russians preparing for not only and fully as time when trump goes. but if trump is

killed, there will be an assassination attempt already. because so much of it seems to revolve around one figure who is dismantling this so called deep state to the united states, which has tried to destroy democracy all around the world so that as opposed russian interests, chinese interest interests. if they go out and do this, it's remarkable, it's, it's, it's truly remarkable. they, there she a power of a one brushing and the us. um, there was a joke. uh, 30 plus years ago when the soviet union, i trust, introduced a deposition of a president. and a russian journalist said joe can be that the disciple presence of the president of the soviet union was as absurd as a title of the 8 shaw of the united states of america. to that the donald trump,

just what? 5 weeks, 6 weeks after his inauguration has behaved more like us all in america and very interestingly is not being much opposed to happen. if your portable things are they happen if you know statements by a mess, the state officials in the, in the us. but otherwise has been more or less running without very little opposition within, within the united states. if, if something happens to trump, of course, the american constitution provides for the vice president to take over in that sense of the uh, the assassination of trump. prior to the election of whatever knocked out and making sure good bye to political sugar and leaving

a void in his place today. if something god forbid happens to donald trump, it will be succeeded. you close by uh, by j. uh, by j. d. that demetrius having kind of a lot of stuff with the both the guy and he is all right, kind of have to step with the, you know, always be general. secondly, to us know. thank you very much. go ahead and try that. thank you. you're welcome. that's it for this year. i will be back on monday with the quincy institute for responsible state graft professor rather don't leave in but until then came into trouble. i social media, if it's on sets and your country and that to a channel going on are going to be hon dot com to let you know that it's such a going undergrad. see him under the

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country in big trouble? no, no. okay. done. a lot of talking. your country is in big trouble. i know you're not, you're not winning this live and worldwide it's just locked down in b c. the same trouble putting zaleski in his place, telling him to leave the white house and his dreams for a deal with washington behind. kind of device the exit stage, right? his resource mineral agreement with trump is left on and signed. so he leaves empty handed as the main goal of his trip to america, ends in failure of all the developments in washington, we spoke about what's on the table for that. i stay with around economist jeffrey center. so i'm still coming to washington. it is kind of pathetic way to sign over in it, almost a meaningless document.