while west asia tried to cope with the video posted by trump depicting human netanyahu composing over the bones of the vitamin genocide in gaza. and moscow again is the form of the attendant kindled in this obvious and rushing non pauses. talk to the imagery, training these on russians born and defense policy council. because i've been kind of so good to have a russian on the show up to so many people from the american side. you know, we had the trump, the deputy assistant on the other day, semester and gorka. so, um, i mean from as being saying off and on. it's possible. there is some presence of western european nato troops allowed in ukraine. and of course, a lever of the foreign minister said, no. so what will happen to the soldiers if they turn up? they're, i mean, right now they're in my 6, they're in british special forces in ukraine. what will happen to these troops if they turn up the well, if they happen to come without rushes approval, which is not forthcoming, as,

as we said, they may become targets for russian strikes. and that would involve of those countries into a direct and immediate military conflict. where's the russian federation? i hope that the, the rulers of european country is consider that seriously before. busy it's too long before it's too late, but you've been seeing what's being coming out of the mouths of these are your p and the leads increasingly, and popular with their own populations. in recent weeks, they clearly see rusher as the enemy. they believe russia has designs on london and paris, and they seem to think that the by, even separating from the united states, they can take on russia as well. i'm not quite sure of the last thing just said

because of the presence of the european forces in ukraine hypothetical at this point was predicated by european leaders on the support of the united states. so, and they're all in all need. those europeans would want to have american back, and this is something that's present. trump is at least for now. unwilling to extend. and i don't think frankly that this position of the american president will change, but we're seeing so many reckless moves by the europeans during this week. busy that essentially made them almost a direct participants in the conflict and they're helping was the warning director. busy them by president fulton, last year when they were on the verge of the supply and your grade

was long range, missiles, and those missiles indeed, was supplied all though they were used to, more or less than they into was own go, not striking, much deeper into russia. in most cases, but i do not trust the european leaders personally with making a um you know, serious decisions about the above military matters. i think that. busy menu of what they decide upon is a, is reckless and laden with lots of risks for their own countries. and though that the, that is because so much concern. clearly based on that was people execute a stomach that they know worried that of fragment of the russian nuclear deterrent . but then you as a mosque who is able to trust with verification,

washington to a certain degree. and of course as a timeliness to this. what's the point of any signed agreement? if your opinion leaders continue to be the way they are? oh, just the, the russian leadership and the russian government think that you are both full in line as they normally do as puppet states of washington. because at the moment they, they seem to be at odds with washington. and there is that there is that rump of your raise you between russia and the atlantic ocean and the united states as well. i think that at the end of the day, the europeans will have no alternative but to side with washington or follow washington. they don't have resources and then they don't have the will uh for an independent security policy and independent for and policy in the to a sense of the word and the options or presence of

american backing for the risk. a potential risk it moves in ukraine is critical for them. so i think that they will rather not challenge washing done on that issue because the washington will be put in an uncomfortable position. when this european forces are deployed in ukraine and then they, their locations and. busy of their base is engaged, but by the russian forces, washington will face a very difficult challenge which i never to respond to and they involve themselves, america. that is a goal, the united stage into a bowl, a real with russia for a band to ensure your p, a nato allies, a choice. the prism trump certainly would want to avoid. so yeah,

clearly there is talk of withdrawal of us troops occupying groups from western europe. but trump is wielding a degree of leverage against something economic leverage against east west and european countries. for other reasons. russia though, and we've been covering on this program over the past 3 years, was paying zalinski for the rent of the pipeline usage for gas into western europe and is supplying energy still to west and europe have. when is rest, you're going to sanction the countries of western europe? well, i don't say i wouldn't, i wouldn't bet on that of europe may eventually sanction russia that completely cut off those, the member states of europe in union that are still getting gas from russia. that would be a risky move in terms of the integrity and unit. sorry to interrupt the advise that

off the black market. that because it needs the energy con, supply it oh, i did stay behind supply all of it. they have to they to a desperate for original energy. right. they financed the russian war. in fact, london violated in paris. well, let them say what they want to say, but the pressure does need the for the exchange. and uh, it has to be non here. the very openly in russia, the cutting off uh, gas supplies to, or, uh, the material supplies to the, to the rest of the world that end up in, in western countries would not be uh, you know, a small move by russia. so yes, so there is, um, a certain degree of not. so how shall i put an inconsistency in this whole thing, but uh, we're dealing with um, with a very, to call it a strange wall or a wall with the unconventional features. and there is no war

declared in ukraine. uh there is, uh, the duplicate diplomatic relations have not been officially broken. just uh, no embassy is at the 2 countries. and of course, uh, relations between russia and europe that are in a, in a proxy was situation. or the united states for that matter till continued uh, throughout the 3 years of the war. yeah, it's a little bit strange for the working classes of russia, though. is it the beginning russians and these are european weapons. so when the neutrons are germany, says he wants to send the new tours miss a. he means aiming to murder decalle russians. that's the old id, are in love, these russian parts of western european pods, a dad to actually target inside russia rather than the battle as well. that is, that is true. and in my view of strikes deeper inside russia,

by your european or with, with, with your initials and of we know that such strikes cannot proceed without the support of the nations that are provided those items. so they are essentially the same as of the trigger, a cigarette delay and sometimes uh, literally speaking, and up to the goals for an attribution. and they help invoices in russia, many voices, persistent voices that argue that the russia should not be only targeting those ukrainians. that uh, formerly in charge of those missiles, but to pay back to those forces in europe that are behind those on sales, those of deliveries. and that intelligence delivered to recreate that enables the you create the invoices to strike interruption. and that never materialized,

which is presumably why london, for instance, is not fragments of russia and continues to talk up war and the mass killing of russians as a, as a kind of juicy, i'm not sure the use of western european nations can actually launch things without the american satellites and this guy, you know, in any sense, in any other, any other way they don't have the technology, arguably. but how isolated then is this western european area movie. so a russia and the united states voting the same way that you and how isolated you expect your up to be. and that's why i kind of said, maybe version sanctions on west in europe would be, would be not seen is as a place, given most of the rest of the world appears to think west in europe is the only thing standing between russia and ukraine and a peace deal as well. i think it's still too early to, to, to say that the united states has completely changed its course on ukraine,

on russia. yes, we have seen the unique case of the united states citing with russia against the european union during a major vote in the united nations. yes, we have seen some, we've heard some vibes coming from the white house that suggests that the approach may be changing, but we went out there yet and there's a lot of uncertainty about the future moves and us, russian relations and future moves. and us policy to work toward russia and, and us involvement in ukraine is also something that, that is subject is subject to change or it's going, it's going to preserve some of the elements of the old approach. i would say that

we need to be a little bit cautious when we uh, when we shut out what uh, what, what concrete changes have been wrought sofa by donald trump and where he may go yet from a field trip down to meet you, janet. and i'll stop you the more from a member of russia's foreign and defense policy council. after this break, the lease of the russian states never die. that the, the most sense communities i saw some, some of the in the 6595 and

speed. what else calls question about this? even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the rushes to day and split the ortiz full tech, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the payment services for the question, did you say a request, which is the right now or was fun is neglected. there's a need not to abandon the other stuff because my few areas that it was good in the

bottom dotted lines. one point o when i was son, was neglected, and 911 happened the the welcome back to going undergrad. i'm still here with a, for, with director of the county, the most cassandra now member of russia's foreign and defense policy council, doctor dmitri training, doctor trend. and you were expressing caution at the end of the one about the trump policy. these are the russia ukraine. i mean, i've got to ask you whether uh, in the light of uh, fee is clearly that he's pursuing some sort of imagine re nick sony in line. i mean it's that is that because the trump administration doesn't really appreciate the

times of change and the tone between badging and most cool can no longer be split apart like richard nixon did as well. i think they've loved also from trump's 1st step. dr. whitehouse. not a frontal attack on the side. no russian relationship with you. few if any results. so the they're likely to get smiled at this time. but surely they uh, they believe in the white house today that it is a your launch degree. the fault of the bite, the administration that took on china and russia simultaneously, that beijing and moscow had been able to forge a fairly close relationship for trump. it's no longer the uh, the, the, the gable, but uh, id, ologies,

it's no longer uh the collective west. uh, united by a liberal globalist ideology. we're taking along the quote unquote or sorry, terry and east. uh, with that, russia and china, the full, uh, they look at china and russia as to the 2 separate entities. they want to, uh, push you different policies to reach american objectives in each case except, sorry to interrupt for that except for all the transaction is i'm of the trumpet ministration. he was clear about bricks and he clearly expressed a desperate fear in the early days after 0 the ration of amy move away from the use of the dollars. so he's very aware of a new world order that is imagine uh uh, i think he is, but uh, the move away from the dollar is something that is uh, is happening. uh, it rushes relations with

a lot of countries simply simply because russia has been borrowed from the global dollar based financial market. and russia has been using a national guard and sees it has been using the rubel. and it's, uh, it's just business transactions with, with a lot of countries. and even the zap is, is often the problem including and rushes relations with china. with regard to come on bricks, currency. i don't think we are anywhere near that. yeah, that's the point rusher. wasted, it's time food in wasted, the time that was available to the russian federation to speed this process up. because right now, none of those bricks countries are going to want to oppose the united states that will be seen to opposing the united states by turning to non dollar trade because it will be subject to 100 percent tires as well. that's, that's true. but it's also true that even before trump,

there was fairly little headway that was made in that direction within bricks. um, china with its, uh, enormous uh, volume of trade relations with the united states and uh, the european union is simply not uh, interested in, uh, risking its a position in both of those giant markets by doing something that would be with the scene as a inimical to donating them a culture of the existing site, natural system. so similarly for india. so it's the relationship or relations within bricks of interesting, but it's not always that the, the member states of the group that takes, that has expanded recently that the day that the members of the group see i to i

a bunch of shelves with regard to the major economic issues in financial issues. so we were talking about uh, with the, with the bricks. we're talking about payments instruments. we're talking about making payments. a systems work in the situation when one of the major members of the group are i the brochure is essentially ejected. trump the global financials. yeah. but that's an advantage arguably, and that would be it all you be an excuse. i mean, it sounds like incompetence that during these 3 years, this arrangement wasn't sped up. so, i mean, what you're actually saying, i suppose is that trump is bought a new lease of life or american hegemony. perhaps even allowing to make the mineral deal with the russia over the contract, from preferential mineral rights in east and ukraine, which you'd normally have don't rush who would be making a deal with china or of the require. clyde territories would be great as well. uh,

tempest changing uh is changing the model of american hegemony is not. uh, he is not canceling american hegemony. he wants it to be more efficient. he wants to cut spending a wants to uh, subsidize. the america's allies in the mr. trump has not had your money by that's a multi polar. well, that is smarter than about my brochure. the issue is, it's just a rush. it hasn't been up to the muck or russia is, uh, is, is, is what it is today. we can sometimes in uh, shrinking imagine that russia is a, is a soviet union in cottage, but the soviet union was accountable for about some people say, uh, one 5th and the others. 161 7th of the global g d p, especially is know where that, that point today. but she'll get your name had the mikey industry that turned out

lots of goes a different value in quality. but many of those goods. what failed to good. and it has a major technological complex that booked as soviet science and technology close to the top of the world. we are in a different position today. we're trying to do better with trying to win back the technological solve it. and kids at the soviet union had and i think that the war has a, has pushed us much further than we otherwise would have would have been able to cover the adults. yeah. by ip be are ahead of dr. matthew, and that somehow with what they got then then, but we are. yeah, by pvp though. and that seems to be the new indicator of the notional gdp. arguably,

what about all these $93.00 countries um by the vessel states around the world that didn't catch up in time for that united nations vote and seem to be still voting with the old colonial masters in, in london and paris. will it take time for all the vassal states all around the world to understand that there's no need for the rest of phobia or any more because they're masters at the i am after world bank the w t. o. i don't the way to the future of any of these multi lateral organizations. they, they don't, they want peace now, unlike these isolated western european pause portion of the, of as well. um, you said russell states, but no internet as well. of course, the only a handful of countries that can truly enjoy sovereignty and even got southern g is only partial.

many of the country is that you're a venture and or let's say many, many with the 93 that you betcha depend on. uh, one way, one way or another on your dns. uh, some would still depend, uh, maybe it would still depend on the united states including the europeans. but the united states, at this point has uh, not tried to, to uh, to make sure that all its vassal states would vote with, with the u. s. united states, uh, did not. uh, the uh, the on the europeans did not give an order to its vassals, to use your language, to make sure that they aligned themselves with the mag, with a new american position. the united states has just changed its own position and is arguing uh with,

with where do your fee is about the wisdom of that position. so it's not, as it's not as simple as the does, it does it sometimes as, as, as it's something i knew sometimes it looks also let me, let me underline one important issue. many of the country is of the wood or the bricks group, including china. and india did not vote with russia on that very important issue of the chinese and in june, abstain. they have their own reasons why they upstate, you know that, but they've always been abstaining on the, on the, on that issue of probably because of the issue of territorial integrity of national sovereignty involved ability voters is a, is an issue that resumes very much in their own countries and their own societies.

but the truth is that the country is whom you would include normally among rushes, best partners and firms. i'm still taking a neutral stance on the, on the very important issue. very important for russian. yeah, i presume, presidency and by minister moody, a tipped off, a president, putin, about that you didn't get ortega of nicaragua. it should be known as well as the president of eritrea. what happens and all the russians preparing for not only in 4 years time when trump goes. but if trump is killed, there will be an assassination attempt already. because so much of it seems to revolve around one figure who is dismantling this so called deep state to the united states, which has tried to destroy democracy all around the world. so that as opposed russian interests chinese interest interested in this is remarkable. it's, it's,

it's truly remarkable. they, there she a power of a one brushing and the us. um, there was a joke. surely plus years ago when the soviet union, i trust introduced a deposition of a president and a russian journalist. ah said joe can be that the talking present of the president of the soviet union was as absurd as the title of the 8 shaw of the united states of america. to that the donald trump, just what 5 weeks, 6 weeks after his inauguration has behaved more like us all in america. and very interestingly as not being much opposed to happen. if you go through a things or if they happen, if you know the statements by this,

the state officials in the, in the us. but otherwise has been more or less running. but that's very little opposition within, within the united states. if, if something happens to trump, of course, the american constitution provides for the vice president to take over in that sense of the uh, the assassination of trump. prior to the election. um, what else? uh, knocked out. uh, it might, it should go by 2 political sake uh, leaving a void in his place. uh today, if something god forbid happens to donald trump, it will, it be succeeded. did you close by uh, by j. uh, by j. d. that's demetrius having kind of a lot of stuff with the both a guy and he is. all right. can i have to stop it there? it always be general secretary to us. no, thank you very much. go ahead and try that a. thank you. you're welcome. that's it for this year. i will be back on monday

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