and that was the us and this it was the non i knew of that of the nation retention. welcome to going undergrad, real costing around the world from the u. a. up to fridays scheduled visit to the white house by zalinski, or as donald trump calls him, the dictator of ukraine zalinski off to seeing maybe a 1000000 of his people killed is now officially signed away a defeated ukraine's resources to the usa. well this up to funding visits to trump from polish, french, and british mass of state leaders who run countries without freedom. according to us, vice president j. d funds to moxie the anniversary of rush has moved deliberate on yes, cocky of goods on your hands. because i have and separation, or the usa and rush. i voted to the un against public countries like britain,

france, and germany. much of the world is united against any economic lead, suicide, or european rump of your race right now. prompted to slash social spending and pulling money into wolf or the country of hamlet. denmark suggested peace was more dangerous than war, and britons against thomas signal sending most of the british army to the fact to fight russia. all this while west asia tried to cope with a video posted by trump depicting human netanyahu composing over the bones of the vitamin genocide in gaza. and moscow again is the form of the attendant kindled in this obvious and rushing non forces. talk to the imagery, training these on russians born and defense policy council. this is an economy so good to have a russian on the show off to so many people from the american side. you know, we had the trump, the deputy assistant on the other day. the rest didn't go. ok, so um, i mean, trump is being saying off and on. it's possible. there is some presence of west and

european nato troops allowed in ukraine. and the 2nd level, the foreign minister said no. so what will happen to the soldiers if they turn up their, i mean, right now they're in my 6, they're in british special forces in ukraine. what will happen to these troops, if they turn up the well, if they happen to come without russia's approval, which is not forthcoming, as, as we see, they may become targets for russian strikes. and that would involve of those countries into a direct and immediate military conflict. where's the russian federation? i hope that the rulers of european country is a consider that seriously before it's too long before it's too late. but you've been seeing what's being coming out of the mouths of these are your p and the leads

increasingly, and popular with their own populations. in recent weeks, they clearly see rusher as the enemy. they believe russia has designs on london and paris, and they seem to think that the by, even separating from the united states, they can take on russia as well. i'm not quite sure of the last thing you said because of the presence of european forces in ukraine hypothetical at this point was predicated by european leaders on the support of the united states. so, and they're all in all need. those europeans would want to have american backend. this is something that's present. trump is at least for now. unwilling to extend and i don't think frankly that this position of the american president will change that we've seen so many reckless moves by the europeans during this week. busy or

the essentially made them almost direct participants in the conflict. and they're helping was the warning directed out them by president fulton last year when they were on the verge of supply. and your grade was long range, missiles, and those missiles indeed were supply 8, although they were used to more or less and they into was own go, not striking much deeper into russia in most cases. but i do not trust the european leaders personally. whereas making a, you know, serious decisions about the military matters. i think that many of what they decide upon is a,

is reckless and laden with lots of risks for their own countries. and uh that, uh, that is a cause for much concern. clearly based on their words, people execute a stomach that they know worried that of fragment of the russian nuclear deterrent . but then you, if a law school is able to trust with verification, washington to a certain degree. and of course there's a timeliness to this. what's the point of any signed degree meant if your up in the lead is continue to be the way they are? oh, just the, the russian leadership and the russian government think that you are both full in line as they normally do as puppet states of washington. because at the moment they, they seem to be at odds with washington. and there is that there is that rump of your asia between russia and the atlantic ocean and the united states as well. i think that at the end of the day,

the europeans will have no alternative but to side with washington to follow washington. they don't have resources, they did, they don't have the will. uh for an independent security policy and independent foreign policy in the to a sense of the word and the options or presence of american backing for the risk. a potential risk it moves in ukraine is critical for them. so i think that they will rather not challenge washington on that issue because the washington will be put in an uncomfortable position when dis european forces are deployed in ukraine and then they, their locations, and that base is engaged, but by the russian forces. washington will face

a very difficult challenge which i never to respond to and they involve themselves, america, that is a goal united stage into a table, a real with russia for a band to ensure your t a nato allies choice. the prism trump certainly would want to avoid. yeah, clearly there is talk of withdrawal of us troops occupying troops from western europe. but trump is wielding a degree of leverage against something economic leverage against east west and european countries. for other reasons. russia though, and we've been covering on this program over the past 3 years, was paying zalinski for the rent of the pipeline usage for gas into western europe and is supplying energy still to west and europe. have windows rest, you're going to sanction the countries of western europe as well. i don't say i

would, i wouldn't bet on that. uh, europe may eventually sanction russia and that completely cut off those that never stay something here. it is union that are still getting gas from russia that would be a risky move in terms of the integrity and unit. sorry to interrupt the advice at off the black market, then because it needs the energy con, supply it old. united states can supply all of it. they have to, they truly desperate for original energy. right? they find as the russian war, in fact, london, breland and paris. well, let them say what they want to say, but uh, russia does need the fluid exchange. and uh it has to be a non here, the very openly and rushes out to cutting off. uh, gas supplies too, or uh, other were rolling materials supplies to the, to the rest of the world. that end up in, in western countries would not be uh,

you know, a small move by russia. so yes, so there is, um, a should be open to uh, how shall i put it in consistency in this whole thing. but uh, we're dealing with that. um, with a very, to call it a strange wall or a wall with the unconventional features. uh, there is no war declared in ukraine. uh theres uh the duplicate diplomatic relations have not been officially broken. just uh, no embassy is at the 2 countries. and of course, uh, relations between russia and europe that are in a, in a proxy war situation or the united states for that matter. still continued uh, throughout the 3 years of the war. yeah, it's a little bit strange for the working classes of russia, though. is it the beginning russians and these are europe in weapons. so when the

new jobs are germany says he wants to send the new tours me. so he means aiming to murder decalle russians. that's the whole idea are in love, these russian parts of western european pods, a dad to actually target inside russia rather than the battle as well. that is, that is true. and in my view of strikes, deepen inside russia by your european or with, with, with europe, initials, and of we know that such strikes cannot proceed without the support of the nations that have provided those items. so they are essentially the same is of the trigger, a cigarette delay and sometimes uh, literally speaking, and up to that go through an attribution. and they help invoices in russia, many voices, persistent voices that argue that the grocer should not be only targeting

those ukrainians that uh, formerly in charge of those missiles, but to pay back to those forces in europe that are behind those on sales, those of deliveries. and that intelligence delivered to recreate that enables the create the invoices to strike interruption. and that never materialized, which is presumably why london, for instance, is not fragments of russia and continues to talk up war and the mass killing of russians as a, as a kind of juicy, i'm not sure the use of western european nations can actually launch things without the american satellites in the sky, you know, in any sense, in any other, any other way they don't have the technology, arguably. but how isolated then is this western european area. i mean, we saw a russia and the united states voting the same way that you and how isolated you

expect your up to be. and that's why i kind of said, maybe measuring sanctions on west and europe would be, would be not seen as, as a place given. most of the rest of the worlds appears to think west and europe is the only thing standing between a washer and ukraine and a peace deal as well. i think it's still too early to, to, to say that the united states has completely changed its course on ukraine, on russia. yes, we have seen the unique case of the united states of siding with russia against the european union during a major vote in the united nations. yes, we have seen some, we've heard some vibes coming from the white house that suggests that the approach may be changing, but we went out there yet and there's

a lot of uncertainty about the future moves and us, russian relations and future moves. and us policy to work toward russia and, and us involvement in ukraine is also something that that is subject. it's subject to change or it's going, it's going to preserve some of the elements of the old approach. i would say that we need to be a little bit cautious when we uh, when we shut out what uh, what, what concrete changes have been wrought sofa by donald trump and where he may go. yep. from a field trip down to meet your janet and i'll stop you. the more from a member of russia's foreign indefensible, as it counts. a lot of us by the

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the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with a for, with director of the kind of the most cassandra now member of russia's foreign and defense policy council, doctor dmitri trenton, doctor trenton, you were expressing caution at the end of the one about the trump policy. these are the russia ukraine. i mean, i've got to ask you whether uh, in the light of the fee is clearly that he's pursuing some sort of imagine re nick sony in line. i mean it's that is that because the trump administration doesn't really appreciate the times of change and the tool in between badging and most cool can no longer be split apart, like richard nixon did as well. i think they've loved also from trump's 1st stand at the white house that

a frontal attack on this. i know russian relationship would yield a few if any results so they they're likely to get smiled at this time. but surely they, uh, they believe in the white house today that it is uh, your last degree, the fault of the bite, the administration that took on china and russia simultaneously, that venturing and moscow had been able to forge a fairly close relationship for trump. uh, it's no longer the, uh, the, the gable, but uh, id, ologies, it's no longer the collective west. uh, united by a liberal globalist ideology. we're taking along the quote unquote, all sort diary of east uh, with that russia and china, the full, uh,

they look at china and russia as to the 2 separate entities. they want to uh, issue different policies to reach american objectives in each case except sorry to interrupt for that except for all the transaction is i'm of the job. it ministration. he was clear about bricks and he clearly expressed a desperate fear in the early days after 0 the ration of amy move away from the use of the dollars. so he's very aware of a new world order that is emerging as, uh, i think he is, but uh, the move away from the dollar is something that is uh, is happening in rushes. relations with a lot of countries simply simply because russia has been borrowed from the globe. busy dollar based financial market and russia has been using a national guard and since it has been using the rubel and it's uh,

it's just business transactions with, with a lot of countries. and even the zap is, is often the problem including it, rushes relations with china with regard to come on, breaks colored and she, i don't think we are anywhere near that. yeah, that's the point rusher. wasted. it's time food in wasted. the time that was available to the russian federation to speed this process up. because right now, none of those breaks countries are going to want to oppose the united states that will be seen to opposing the united states by turning to non dollar trade because it'll be subject to 100 percent terrace as well. that's, that's true. but it's also true that even before trump, there was fairly little headway that was made dumped up direction within bricks. um trying uh with its uh, enormous uh, volume of trade relations with the united states and uh, the european union is simply not uh, interested in, uh,

risking its uh, position in both of those giants markets by doing something that would be with the seen as a inimical to the dollar and in the culture of the existing financial system. so similarly for india. so it's the relationship or relations within bricks of interesting. but it's not always that the, the member states of the group that takes, that has expanded recently that the day that the members of the group see i to i a bundle shells with regard to the major economic issues and financial issues. so we were talking about the with the, with the bricks. we're talking about payments instruments. we're talking about making payments. a systems work in the situation when one of the

major members of the group for i, the brochure is essentially ejected. trump the global financials. yeah. but that's an advantage, arguably, announcement value be an excuse, i mean, it sounds like incompetence that during these 3 years, this arrangement wasn't sped up. so i mean, what you're actually saying, i suppose is that trump has bought a new lease of life for american hegemony. perhaps even allowing to make the mineral deal with the russia over the contract, from preferential mineral rights in east and ukraine, which you'd normally have don't rush you would be making a deal with china or of the require a quiet territories would be great as well. uh, tempest changing uh is changing the model of american hegemony is not. he's not counseling. american hegemony. he wants it to be more efficient. he wants

to cut spending a wants to, uh subsidize, the americans that lives in the trump. that's not a germanic bad. that's a monkey, the polar world, as spoken about my rush or the issue is it's just a rush or it hasn't been up to the mark of russia is, uh, is, is, is what it is today. we can sometimes in uh, shrinking imagine that russia is a, is a soviet union and called it, but the soviet union was accountable for about some people say, uh, one 5th and the others. 161 7th of the global gdp actually is know, well, that, that point today should be at your noon had uh, a mighty industry that turned out lots of goes a different value quality, but uh, many of those goods. what failed the good added have uh, a new job technological complex that booked uh,

soviet science and technology close to the top of the world. we are in a different position today were trying to do better with trying to uh, when backs new technological shopping and kids at the soviet union had and uh, i think that the wall has uh, has pushed us much farther than we otherwise would have, would have been able to cover the adults yeah. ip be or i had to do the math. you know that somehow with web bigger than that, but yeah, yeah, by p p. p though, and that seems to be the new indicator of the notional cvp. arguably, what about all these $93.00 countries? um, but the vessel states around the world that didn't catch up in time for that united nations vote and seem to be still low thing with the old colonial mazda is in, in london and paris. will it take time for all of us, all states,

all around the world to understand that it is no need for the rest of phobia or any more because they must is at the i am after will bank the w t. o doing the way to the future of any of these multi lateral organizations. they, they know they want peace. now unlike these isolated western european pause portion of the, of as well. um, you said russell states, but um, you know, internet as well. of course, the only a handful of countries that can truly enjoy sovereignty and even that solvent is only partial uh many of the country is that uh your venture door lets say many, many with the $93.00 that you mention uh, depend on uh, one way one way or another on um your dns. uh,

some would still depend uh, many of which still depend on the united states, including the europeans. but the united states, at this point has uh, not tried to, to uh, to make sure that all its natural states would vote with, with the us the united states. uh, did not. uh, the uh, the on the europeans did not give an order to its vassals, to use your language, to make sure that they aligned themselves with the mag, with a new american position. the united states has just changed its own position and is arguing, uh where, where, where the europeans about the wisdom of that position. so it's not, as it is not as simple as the does, it does it sometimes, as, as, as it's something new. sometimes it looks also let me,

let me underline one important issue. many of the country is of the wood or the bricks group, including china and india, or did not vote with russia on that very important issue. the chinese of the in just abstain. they have their own reasons why they upstate, you know that, but they've always been abstaining on the, on, on that issue of probably because of the issue of jo doyle, integrity of national sovereignty involve ability. voters is a, is an issue that resumes very much in their own countries and their own societies. but the truth is that the country is whom you would include normally among rushes best partners. and from here, i'm still taking a neutral stance on the, on the very important issue. very important for russian. yeah,

i presume president she and by minister moody, a tipped off a president, putin, about that you didn't get ortega of nicaragua, it should be known as well. as the president of eritrea, what happens and all the russians preparing for not only and fully as time when trump goes. but if trump is killed, there will be an assassination attempt already. because so much of it seems to revolve around one figure who is dismantling this so called deep state to the united states, which has tried to destroy democracy all around the world so that as opposed russian interests, chinese interest interests have to go out and do this it's remarkable, it's, it's, it's truly remarkable. they, there she, a power of a one brushing and the u. s. a. there was a joke. surely plus years ago when the soviet union, i trust,

introduced a deposition of a president. and a russian journalist, a sub jo can be that the title of president of the president of the soviet union was as absurd as the title of the 8 shaw of the united states of america. is that the donald trump, just what? 5 weeks, 6 weeks after his inauguration has behaved more like us all in america and very interestingly as not being much opposed to happen. if you go through what things are they happen if you know the statements by, uh, uh, this, the state officials in the, in the us. but otherwise, it's been more or less running without very little opposition within, within the united states. if, if something happens to trump, of course, the american constitution provides for the vice president to take over in that

sense of the uh, the assassination of trump. prior to the election. um, what else? uh, knocked out. uh, it might, it should go by 2 political sugar uh, leaving a void in his place. uh today if something god forbid happens to donald trump, it will be succeeded. you close by uh, by j. uh, by j. d. that demetrius having kind of a lot of stuff with the both the guy and he is all right, kind of have to stop at the, you know, always be general secondary to us. no, thank you very much. go ahead and try that. thank you. you're welcome. that's it for this year. i will be back on monday with the quincy institute for responsible state graft professor out of it all leaving but until then came into trouble. social media and sunsets and your country, and that draw channel going on are going to be hon dot com to let you know that

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and then the new system and below grade level nominal facility or some of those other staff we, i'm about the easiest little so one of the easiest, somebody remember, bubble showed wellness that will kind of get used to have gone on one level why are weapons from ukraine spreading over the world? to turn this country into a major arms hub, will continue to bolster ukraine's and forces by rushing them occasionally is that they need to defend their country. the everyone knows very well that we don't sell but known as pineapples or any kind of children's toys. we sell women's. yes, we're also known in the world is almost dealers that we must not be ashamed of that the,