of the, [000:00:00;00] the nation retentive welcome to going underground rule crossing around the world from the u. a of to friday, scheduled visit to the white house by zalinski or his donald trump, calls him the dictator of ukraine zalinski off to seeing maybe a 1000000 of his people killed is now officially signed a way, a defeated ukraine's resources to the usa. all this up to funding visits to trump from polish, french, and british class of state leaders who run countries without freedom. according to us, vice president j. d funds to moxie the anniversary of rush has moved deliberate down . yes, cocky guys on who hands?

because i evans ever reach or the usa and russian have voted to the u. n. against the puppet countries like britain, france, and germany. much of the world is united against any economic lead, suicide, or european rump. if you raise your hand that prompted to slash social spending and pull money into wolf or the country of hamlet, denmark suggested peace was more dangerous than war. and britons against thomas signal sending most of the british army to the fact to fight russia. all this while west asia tried to cope with a video posted by trump depicting human netanyahu composing over the bones of the biden genocide in gaza. and moscow again, is the form of lieutenant colonel in his office and russian on pauses. talk to the imagery, training these on russians born and defense policy council. this is an economy so good to have a russian on the show off to so many people from the american side, you know, we had the trump, the deputy assistant on the other day, the rest didn't go. okay. so um, i mean from as being saying off and on,

it's possible. there is some presence of western european nato troops allowed in ukraine. and the 2nd level of the foreign minister said, no. so what will happen to the soldiers if they turn up their, i mean, right now they're in my 6, they're in british special forces in ukraine. what will happen to these troops, if they turn up the well, if they happen to come without russia's approval, which is not forthcoming, as, as we see, they may become targets russian strikes. and that would involve the, those countries into a direct and immediate electric conflict. where the russian federation, i hope that the rulers of european country is consider that seriously based. busy it's too long before it's too big. but you've been saying what's been coming out of

the mouths of visa, europe, and the leads increasingly, and popular with their own populations. in recent weeks, they clearly see rusher as the enemy. they believe russia has designs on london and paris, and they seem to think that the by, even separating from the united states, they can take on russia as well. i'm not quite sure of the last thing you said because of the presence of european forces in ukraine hypothetical at this point was predicated by european leaders on the support of the united states. so, and they're all in all need. those europeans would want to have american back, and this is something that's present. trump is at least for now. unwilling to extend. and i don't think frankly that this position of the american president will

change, but we're seeing so many reckless moves by europeans during this week. busy that essentially made them almost direct participants in the conflict and they're helping was the warning director. busy them by president fulton, last year when they were on the verge of the supply and your grade was long range, missiles, and those missiles indeed were supply adult though they were used to more or less. and they, in the, was on the, not striking much deeper into russian in most cases. but i do not trust the european leaders personally. whereas making a, um, you know, serious decisions about the military matters. i

think that. busy menu of what they decide upon is a, is reckless and laden with lots of risks for their own countries. and uh that, uh, that is because so much concern. clearly based on that was people likes, it, keeps telling me that they're not worried that upfront and of the russian nuclear deterrent. but then you as a mosque who is able to trust with verification, washington to a certain degree. and of course, there's a timeliness to this. what's the point of any signed agreement? if your opinion leaders continue to be the way they are? oh, just the, the russian leadership in the russian government think that you are both full in line as they normally do as puppet states of washington. because at the moment they, they seem to be at odds with washington. and there is that there is that rump of your raise you between russia and the atlantic ocean and the united states as

well. i think that at the end of the day the europeans will have no alternative but to side with washington to follow washington. they don't have resources, they did, they don't have to well, uh, for an independent security policy and independent foreign policy in the, to a sense of the word and the options or presence of american backing for the risk. a potential risk it moves in ukraine is critical for them. so i think that they will rather not challenge washing done on that issue because the washington will be put in an uncomfortable position. when this european forces are deployed in ukraine and then they, their locations and their base is engaged,

but by the russian forces. washington will face a very difficult challenge, which i never to respond to and they involve themselves back. that is a goal. they're not stage into a more real with russia or a band it sure european major allies choice. the prism trump certainly would want to avoid. so yeah, clearly there is talk of withdrawal of us troops occupying troops from western europe. but trump is wielding a degree of leverage against something economic leverage against east west and european countries. for other reasons. russia though, and we've been covering on this program over the past 3 years, was paying zalinski for the rent of the pipeline usage for gas into western europe and is supplying energy still to west and europe have. when is rest,

you're going to sanction the countries of west in europe? well, i don't, so i wouldn't, i wouldn't bet on that of europe may eventually sanction russia that completely cut off those that never stay something here. it is near the end that are still getting gas from russia that would be a risky move in terms of the integrity and unit. sorry to interrupt the advice at off the black market then because it needs the energy con, supply of old united states on supply all of it. they have to they to a desperate for original energy. right? they find as the russian war, in fact, london, breland and paris will let them say what they want to say. but the pressure does need the fluid exchange. and uh, it has to be a non here, the very openly in rushes after cutting off a gas supplies to or other were rolling material supplies to

the, to the rest of the world. that end up in, in western countries would not be uh, you know, a small move by russia. so, yes, so there is, um, a certain degree of uh, how shall i put it in consistency in this whole thing. but we're dealing with um, with a very, to call it a strange wall or a wall where the unconventional features. uh, there is no war declared in ukraine. uh there is, uh, the duplicate diplomatic relations have not been officially broken. just uh, no embassies at the 2 countries. and of course uh, relations between russia and europe that are in a, in a proxy was situation or the united states for that matter. still continued uh, throughout the 3 years of the war. yeah, it's a little bit strange for the working classes of russia,

though. is it the beginning russians and these are european weapons. so when the new chancellor, germany says he wants to send the new tours me. so he means aiming to murder decalle russians. that's the whole idea are in love, these russian parts of western european pods, a dad to actually target inside russia rather than the battle as well. that is, that is true. and in my view of strikes, deepen inside russia by your european or with, with, with your initials. and we know that such strikes cannot proceed without the support of the nations that are provided those items. so they are essentially the same is of the trigger, a cigarette delay and sometimes uh, literally speaking, and up to that goal for an attribution. and they help invoices in russia, many voices,

persistent voices that argue that the russia should not be only targeting those ukrainians. that uh, formerly in charge of those missiles, but to pay back to those forces in europe that are behind those on sales, those of deliveries. and that intelligence delivered to recreate that enables that you create the invoices to strike interruption, that never materialize, which is presumably why london, for instance, is not a fragment of russia and continues to talk of war and the mass killing of russians as a, as a kind of juicy, i'm not sure the use of western european nations can actually launch things without the american satellites in the sky. you know, in any sense, in any other, any other way they don't have the technology, arguably. but how isolated then is this western european area, i mean, we saw

a russia and the united states voting the same way that you and how isolated you expect your up to be. and that's why i kind of said, maybe version sanctions on west and europe would be, would be not seen is as a place, given most of the rest of the world appears to think west in europe is the only thing standing between a washer and ukraine and a piece deal or? well, i think it's still too early to, to, uh, to say that uh, the united states has completely changed its course on ukraine, on russia. yes, we have seen the unique case of the united states, the siding with russia against the european union during a major vote in the united nations. yes, we have seen some, we've heard some vibes coming from the white house that suggest that the approach may be changing,

but we went out there yet and there's a lot of uncertainty about the future moves and us, russian relations and future moves. and us policy to work toward russia and, and us involvement in ukraine is also something that, that is subject. it's subject to change or it's going, it's going to preserve some of the elements. so the old approach, i would say that we need to be a little bit cautious when we, uh, when we sort out what, uh, what, what concrete changes have been wrought sofa by donald trump and wherever he may go. yet from a field trip down to meet you, janet, and i'll stop you, the more from a member of russia's foreign and defense policy council after this,

by the, the russian states never. i've side as i'm one of the most sense community best ingles, all sense of the in the 6595 and speed. what else holes question about this? even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin, the machine, the states on the russians per day and split the ortiz full neck,

even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say even closer to the welcome back to going undergrad, i'm still here with a former director of the county of the most cassandra now member of russia's foreign and defense policy council, dr. dimitry training, dr. trenton you were expressing caution at the end of the one about the trump policy, visa v. russia. ukraine. i mean, i've got to ask you whether uh in the lights of the fee is clearly that he's pursuing some sort of imagine re nick sony in line. i mean it's that

is that because the trump administration doesn't really appreciate the times of change and the tone to between badging and most cool can no longer be split apart like richard nixon did as well. i think they've loved also from trump's 1st step. dr. whitehouse not a frontal attack on the side. no russian relationship would yield a few if any results. so the they're likely to get smiled at this time. but surely they, uh, they believe in the white house today that it is a very large degree of default of the bite administration that took on china and russia simultaneously. that the venturing and moscow had been able to forge a fairly close relationship for trump. uh, it's no longer the uh the, the, the gable, but uh, id, ologies,

it's no longer the collective west. uh, united by a liberal globalist ideology. taking more on the quote unquote or sorry, diarrhea, east. uh, with that russia and china, uh, the full, uh, they look at china and russia as to the 2 separate entities. they want to uh, issue different policies to reach american objectives in each case except, sorry to interrupt for that except for all the transaction ism of the trumpet ministration. he was clear about bricks and they clearly expressed a desperate fear in the early days after 0 the ration of amy move away from the use of the dollars. so he's very aware of a new world order that is emerging. uh uh, i think he is, but uh, the move away from the dollar is something that is uh, is happening in rushes. relations with

a lot of countries simply simply because russia has been borrowed from the global dollar based financial market. and russia has been using a national guard and sees it has been using the rubel and it's uh, a night shift business transactions with, with a lot of countries. and even the zap is, is often the problem including and rushes relations with china. with regard to come on bricks, currency, i don't think we are anywhere near that. yeah, that's the point rusher. wasted. it's time food in wasted. the time that was available to the russian federation to speed this process up. because right now, none of those bricks countries are going to want to oppose the united states. that will be seen to opposing the united states by turning to non dollar trade because it will be subject to 100 percent tires as well. that's that's true. but it's also

true that even before trump, there was fairly little headway that was made in that direction within bricks. um, china with its, uh, enormous uh, volume of trade relations with the united states and uh, the european union is simply not uh, interested in, uh, risking its a position in both those giant markets by doing something that would be with the seen as a inimical to the dollar and then it goes to the existing financial system. so similarly for india. so it's the relationship relations within bricks of interesting. but it's not always that the member states of the group that takes,

that has expanded recently that the day that the members of the group c i to i a button themselves with regard to the major economic issues in financial issues. so we were talking about the, with the, with the brakes. we're talking about payments instruments. we're talking about making payments. a systems work in a, in the situation where one of the major members of the group for either russia is uh, essentially ejected trump the global financials. yeah. but that's an advantage arguably. and that would be it all you be an excuse. i mean, it sounds like incompetence that during these 3 years, this arrangement wasn't sped up. i mean, what you're actually saying, i suppose is that trump has bought a new lease of life for american hegemony. perhaps even allowing to make the mineral deal with the russia over the contract, from preferential mineral rights in east and ukraine, which you'd normally have don't rush it would be making

a deal with china or of the re require a quiet territories would be great as well. uh, tempest changing uh is changing the model of american hegemony is not. he's not counseling. american hegemony. he wants it to be more efficient. he wants to got a spending a wants to uh, subsidize, the americans that lives in the trump. that's not your money by. that's a monkey, the polar world, as spoken about my rush or the issue, and it's just a rush or it hasn't been up to the mark of russia is, uh, is, is, is what it is today. we can sometimes in uh, shrinking imagine that russia is a, is a soviet union and called it, but the soviet union was accountable for about some people say, uh, one 5th and the others was 61 7th of the global g,

d p. and actually is know where that, that point today, she'll get your new had of and might the industry that turned out lots of goes the different value and quality. but many of those goods, what failed the good added, how the nature, technological complex that booked the soviet science and technology close to the top of the world. we are in a different position today. we're trying to do better with trying to uh, when backs the technological solve and data to soviet union had. and i think that the wall has a, has pushed us much further than we otherwise. what else would have been able to cover doing our builds? yeah, by ip be, are ahead of the matthew on that somehow with what they got then then, but yeah, yeah, by pvp though. and that seems to be the new indicator of the notional gdp. arguably,

what about all these 93 countries? um, but i don't know best will states around the world that didn't catch up in time for that united nations vote and seem to be still voting with the old colonial, most as in, in london and paris. will it take time for all of us, all states, all around the world to understand that it is no need for the rest of phobia or any more because the masters at the i am after will bag the w 2. i don't the way to the future of any of these multilateral organizations. they, they don't, they won't piece now unlikely is isolated western european pause portion of the, of, as well. um you said russell states books, no internet as well. the cost of only a handful of countries that can truly enjoy

sovereignty. and even the southern g is only partial. many of the country is that you're a venture and or let's say many, many with the 93 that you venture depend on the one way and one way or another on your dns. and some would still depend many, it would still depend on the united states, including the europeans. but the united states at this point, has not tried to uh to make sure that all its vassal stage would vote with, with the u. s. united states did not lean on the europeans, did not give an order to its vassals, to use your language to make sure that they aligned themselves with the american, with a new american position. the united states has just changed its own position and is

arguing uh with, with, with the european about the, the wisdom of that position. so it's not, as it's not as simple as the does, it does it sometimes, as, as, as it's something new. sometimes it looks also let me, let me underline one important issue. many of the countries of the wood or the bricks group, including china and india did not vote with russia on that very important issue of the chinese of the in just abstain. they have their own reasons why they upstate in odessa, but they've always been abstaining on the, on the, on that issue of probably because of the issue of jerry tauriel integrity of national sovereignty involved ability board as is a,

is an issue that resumes very much in their own countries and their own societies. but the truth is that the country is whom you would include normally among rushes best partners and firms are still taking a neutral stance on the, on the very important issue. very important for russian. yeah, i presume president she and by minister moody, a tipped off, a president, putin, about that you didn't get ortega of nicaragua. it should be known as well as the president of eritrea. what happens and all the russians preparing for not only in 4 years time when trump goes. but if trump is killed, there will be an assassination attempt already. because so much of it seems to revolve around one figure who is dismantling this so called deep state to be united states, which has tried to destroy democracy all around the world so that as opposed russian interests, chinese interest interest. if they go out and see it is remarkable,

it's, it's, it's truly remarkable. they, there she, a power of a one brushing and the us there was a joke. surely plus years ago with the soviet union, i trust introduced the position of a president and russia during the list sub joking me that they did typing, the president of the president of the soviet union was as absurd as the title of the 8 shaw of the united states of america to that the donald trump, just what 5 weeks, 6 weeks after his inauguration has behaved more like us all in america. and a very interesting way is not been much opposed to happen. if you go through what things are they happen if you know the state punched by

this state officials in the, in the us. but otherwise has been more or less running. but that's very little opposition within, within the united states. if, if something happens to trump, of course, the american constitution provides to the vice president to take all but in that sense of the uh, the assassination of trump. prior to the election of whatever knocked out and making sure good bye to political figure, leaving a void in his place. uh today, if something god forbid happens to donald trump, it will be succeeded. drew close by, uh, by j. uh, by j. d. that demetrius having kind of a lot of stuff with the both the guy and he is all right, kind of have to stay over there. you know, always be general. secondly to us. no,

thank you very much. go ahead and try that. thank you. you're welcome. that's it for this year. i will be back on monday with the quincy institute for responsible state graft professor rather don't leave in but until then get into trouble, social media and so on. sense of your country and that to our child going i'll be going to be hon dot com to let you know that it's such a going undergrad. see monday the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washer. as close to the funder line, likes to say we have the tools while we just start with stability and business

deals to be living online. we have very quick propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask the better. the answer is will be the a. during world war 2, the germans with the help of the ship. the creation revolutionary movement that the independent state of croatia transported. hundreds of people have no way to work and force labor camps. the germans wanted the work force to build roads and the infrastructure in norway. so when they couldn't get enough prisoners from serbia, they contacted through social and the install of these jobs to you had the death rate up to 82 percent each, which is actually higher done in the ultimate among the dozens of children. boy did the georgia evo but not the and i'll be