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close by 12 percent in california. the i'm actually under a tendency and welcome to going undergrad, real gusting, all around the world from the hearts of the middle east. where israel to the teeth by donald trump has launched a renewed siege and it's genocidal war and gaza. that's when most of the world looks to the global economic superpower, china, which far at strips the usa and g d, p by p b. today's the 3rd plenary, the 14th communist national people's congress, setting a growth targets a 5 percent and increases in war spending by 7.2 percent. why the war spending arguably because of the old world? just days after a london, somebody's kicked off a decision by european that leads to a home for war on russia. and
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a donald trump spoke to both houses of congress, doubling down on his desire for peace. the you mentioned brussels, the extraordinary meeting with you and leads to arrange the impoverishment of you populations in the pursuit of war that as washington and moscow organize restoration of diplomatic relations, direct flights and easing of sanctions. joining me now is the daily former bp you along side mike wallace with array of voice in the early in parliament against nature, militarism. she joins me now from killed there in island. claire, thank so much for coming back on, i believe. strange companies, newspaper, the financial times breathlessly talking as it has all week about the prospect for more, more spending in europe. and since you are in island or in brussels, where you're normally when you were the european parliament, i bet a style by just asking you. it says the island, it's foreign minister said yesterday, the militarily neutral, neutral nation will not be found. one thing over any future european peacekeeping
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mission in ukraine and even talks about the cabinet bill from the t shirts and previous t shore consisting in no way unto mine's islands, commitment to the un. what's going on in iceland? joining up on the war and russia as yeah it's, it's is quite extraordinary. and of course these words are a complete lie. this is absolutely against the united nations. i'm totally undermining our traditional position of neutrality. which unfairness to place an establishment in orland have long been wanting to undermine both. now in this new world, there, turbo charging is under a some proposal going before the irish parliament that the basis upon which we send troops abroad, which they call us a triple lock. traditionally, ours troops would only go abroad with you and minds ation with the barking of the government and that they are as parliament. but they want to remove the un mandate
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from that. so freeing them off to engage in european military emissions, which against the backdrop of seeds underline announcement um, the acceleration of military spending on time war drum binding would see the potential for irish men and women in their defense forces being sent abroad to pursue really your team and peer lane, so it's quite extraordinary, but they are seizing the present moment in order to do something. but they've long sought to do anyway. give me a few things, probably surprise you as regards foreign policy of these nato european nations. but what did you make of the british prime minister as it gets dom and using a phrase that is now used across europe was used on a thursday, b, e u and u. k. calling themselves the coalition of the willing, echoing the iraq war invasion which killed wounded or just base tens of millions of people in this region where i'm speaking to you from. well, yeah,
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sundays. or was almost like paying homage to bush and blair, under healey. go more, which saw 1000000 iraqis killed and slaw certain destruction of the country. it's sort of tells you where these people are going. and we also hear them are teasing the nation. yahoo slogan, teach true strength on them. you know, this is, this is the direction that these people are clearly going. i mean, the truth is, they've been on a military bench for a long number of years now. and uh, they seem to be coming down dollars. it's interesting that the figures that they're talking about is about 800000000000 on defense. they can even come as and said that you're a cost to get used to trimming it's welfare project because the obviously haven't got the money for paying for all of this. if we want to become a warfare stage, and of course nobody asked the people to view or a bank that quite clearly, people would much prefer to see that money spent on things that would actually make
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them say, like, they're run forward or has no food on the table to deal with the devastating cost of living crisis with these people costs in the 1st place with their ridiculous response to uninstalled months and nasal as incursion on on most as far as are on tragic. h using ukraine in dash a. i mean, it is disaster all around and they're actually doing the absolute opposite of what they should be doing and the consequences for your but this keeps going will be devastating. in my opinion, it already has been thought, rather than seizing on an opportunity for peace on the continent of europe. they seem to be desperately doing everything they can to make sure that their sole source of the war going or even getting worse. i mean, sounding, i'll probably make it out myself. i mean, i knew that these were the most incompetent group of leaders ever at the home, or if you're a but they're large, be in co here and to as well. because while they're waiting to get back to us at
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the same time they're paying for and donald trump space and saying, oh no, no, no, we want to work with you. we will do, we will, we will increase our military expand. we bring it up to 5 percent. we will go there . it's, it's disastrous for your and yet no votes. as you says in the european parliament itself, none in the national government parliament for europe in union, none in, in britain just, you know, you spent years in the european parliament just pains as a picture of how they come to be so out of touch. i mean, are these people ignorant of the, why the proxy war in russia started, or are they benefiting from this in some way? why? why would they endanger their populations in this way? your institutions helping completely capture by the military industrial complex. and this is a process going on over many years, spots started to us, an economic union became much more involved in issues like foreign affairs and so
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on through the lisbon tracy, which was projected in orleans were the only country that actually has of both of its people, if we want to change your opinion, tracy said we voted against our tracy and were made to go back, unfold for us and with in the us. was the embryos you like of the beginnings of your, your, of us an entity separate from it's 27 member states getting involved in foreign affairs and getting involved in defense vouchers. they got a hi representative, which was joseph burrell, who, when we were in the part of them and paused, was pretty dreadful. but he's being replaced by ty, a callous switch. brayden's crazy, dreadful onto a completely new scale of catastrophic war hawk. and it's kind of a high account issue, who said it's not that bad if i, russia is broken up the entire russian federation by this war through your brain. the absolutely you're standing like golding, russia unexplored or some then blaming real short for any potential response. i
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mean it's, it's crazy stuff. we were at amazing in new york in parliament square, jeffrey sachs said this is not even baby geo politics. he said, this is not thinking of all. and i think he's right. they are not painting at all. they've been completed about 10 years ago. europe decided to look at its decides how would they make themselves safer? and to come up with the answer they invited for the calls bizarrely, a group of personalities. and they weren't movie star as they were actually in the majority. they were representative. so if you are peons defense industry and they came up with a solution which was do you know how to make yourselves safe? now, the best way to do that is by spending a lot more money on militarize ation. and from the surprise, surprise, that's what they gauge. and the very same companies who advise them, who says we're, we're not, we're your partners, we're, we're not industry where your partner's,
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they were the beneficiaries of those contracts. and that's where you saw the 1st european defense funding. this is all before the warm ukraine for, for the 1st time that we're giving a big in your office in a direct your being defense phones. they had a misnamed your being. he's facilitate specifically allowing expenditure on arms and of course wants to warn your credit and starts with baseless turbocharged. so an original purchase off the books of a bad 6000000000. suddenly became 17 barian wits, 2 thirds of the going on military expenditure in ukraine to fuel the war and keep it going on. it's been prom from after program. i know we have figures of those 800000000000 been spoken about, but the interest in paying it, but it's also stuck in mackenzie's reports on european defense. last year came calling to the doc was the direction that europe was going to go on anyway. so there's somebody behind the scenes or organizations behind the scenes pulling the
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strings on since the announcements we've seen, chairs in b and b and r i o in. tell us all the things you are being defense companies, sky, your office, i mean and sadly, also a chairs um on the stock exchange bar l. but systems because one of the biggest beneficiaries of your team defense of course is the genocide of stage of it. so on, yeah, your claims that is doing this because they're worried about as all russia hasn't aged, a software and country we've done for democracy, but they've enables the destruction of guys for the invasion of lebanon. they don't care about syria, so you know, they don't care about these things and they certainly don't care. the people of you credit and politically. somebody came from the top sure. of europe by the military industrial co. okay. i wonder a judge. i want to return to the genocide in a moment. but then are you saying it's banality? that storm of macro sholtes so much kaya kyle is these people will get jobs as
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consultants from the military companies? or is it that they can go to complete confident they, they live in a bobo? the european union is an absolute although they're surrounded by a compliant media who tells them that they're doing the right thing and attempting to fax them into the financial times. part in order to go to the same doctor, you know, for which democratic society, so like your to achieve reforms that you want to richie. and the only ease is not to know if you have to create fear on maybe now is the right moment. and that's actually what they're doing and people across europe are very afraid. i mean, i've had groups in belgium, sort of parent groups off of school children sort of sending around messages. and there are lots of groups saying, you know, guys, i think we need to stock up on survive or supplies here. the finish government are telling people to get solar powered radio and sending event of, of, of, for breaking up. where is the effort to stop the war for diplomacy?
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that's what the noise of nations and international relations were supposed to be. the peaceful resolution of conflict instead and the warm ukraine there to absolute, everything to keep it going and hard. trump may have been very ignorant in these behavior to savanski in the why service the actual comp time to 40 the same was correct at this could have been over in 2 weeks. now. what's the last you should have said to him was, well, that actually would it be over in 4 weeks. but the us and britain came in and told us to keep trident, have for peter to say that, and that's the truth about. and now they want the war to keep going, regardless of the devastating consequences. but i take many citizens around your c das, but it's almost like they're powerless to do anything of basic because the organizations and the priorities of the last or whatever, who used to speak ads on these issues, hoping causal in the was taking this ching away. some that could end up being incredibly dangerous for your up and of course us is to long since it's hobbled up,
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potential rival um yeah. and it's, it's not stuff. so i don't even, i think their brain tags. i think they are completely in a bubble at their media, tells them what they've onto here on their industrial obvious are leading them on, particularly in the defense sector for the it's the people of your who are going to lose sight of and, and so by the fed daily, i'll stop you the little from the irish politician for the member of the european parliament. after this break, the you mention all size area might tons of images for, unless far as far as that and of course, freezing temperatures. now, while you might have the wrong dose of any of those things today, we'll show you a different side to side barrier. one with ancient today since the closing edge innovation, the during
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world war 2, the germans with the help of the ship. the creation revolutionary movement that the independent state of croatia transported hundreds of people have no way to work and force labor camps. the germans wanted the work force to build roads and the infrastructure in norway. so when they couldn't get enough prisoners from serbia, they contacted through social and the install of these camps. you had the death rate up to 82 percent each, which is actually higher done in the ultimate among the dozens of children. lloyd did the george a boy, but not the and i'll be a little go to the coast for this in the woods, the type, the owner's cool. that'd be good to to this is a goodness assurance and whatnot for you that they had the horrible conditions except from the t lease. many people died from surveys,
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a hunger as diseases, very few made it back home. also some of the 2 of the logic drove the table name as you, but, you know, and that was the us. and they said it was in the middle of the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the irish politician. there's a, there's a member of your be in parliament that daily play. you mentioned at the end of 51 that the trump might have been behaving ignorantly in the oval office. i think i'll gladly was told the truth by to see gab lieutenant colonel is new director of national intelligence. i mean, uh, do you think uh, do you think now your opinions understand that uh, the, the usa will leave nature as are you not to say for, i don't know what they understand. i think they understand nothing. it's almost as
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if they are kind of dodging for a war with russia. it's beyond valley family lives besides a nuclear power on the same continent. it's just all strongly bizarre. i honestly, i, having witnessed them over the past 5 years, incorporating an integration european defense more and more as being synonymous with nasal. they're kind of was or less now which one but the hell and they don't really know what to do. and you could almost see a situation where the us, china and russia are sort of getting along. ok, well maybe not joined under us. but you know, you are being told to be excluded and rolling down the wrong mode, looking for a solution. and there are also a bank go bankrupt, or we saw that, of course, you know, in, in other issues and garza and another mattress as well. because even on their own home turf, it's the same. you join attention to the use of shannon airport in island before
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for us for him policy. i don't know whether it made you feel happy or, or the what you felt that the there. now the united states is telling britain, britain, which hosts thousands of us troops, all those us bases, all those weapons, just telling them do not share any intelligence with the lensky and ukraine. it's, it's so public, as it was, that the britain just has to obey what the united states does, but these are all, so they really are occupying troops in your a totally, i mean a it, this is the info here and something your team leadership on the one hand their pricing talk and they're talking about minutes rising more and they're on assembly ukraine and all this. but at the same time, they are almost waiting for any of the fees of trump also. and it supports tactic. what they should do is go talk to ross for themselves, develop an independent european foreign policy that benefits the people of europe
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and said they've been subservient to us interests for so long. now. it's almost the kind of break engine, but it's, even when the us is in their face, making it obvious that they are subservient, it's, i think these are astounding times they are so, as of torch is it is terrifying that these idiots are foss constitutes the leadership of europe and in the are being parliament, you'd have met lots of european members of the or a pm parliament from very different electrodes as they prepare to massively caught social welfare programs in britain and island pads, pensions welfare, housing, all these different programs for this war on russia, just to give us a, give us a picture of the scale of inequality in the european union. i mean, 195000000 is the figure from the european commission of 95000000 people tonight are
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frightened of not being able to eat or yep. there is a housing crisis right across europe. now, here in ireland, very people in relatively god's employments can't afford to either rent or buy a house. there's a public services crisis really everywhere in europe, not to mention the climate catastrophe and our responsibilities in that regard. and instead, what we've seen is billions being taken out of budgets, which were designed to deal with the crime occurring. this has been used on defense . so it's a total for me. not only are we taking money away from work that could be drawn to deal with the environmental problems, they're going to defense, the carbon footprint of which is never tax calculations anywhere. so there's huge, chrysler must have cost of living prices all across europe. and for ordinary citizens to hear that they can find a 100000000000 on weapons of destruction,
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to kill people, and to have their own children be killed in the process. it's off the richter scale, and yet the media in europe, fleets, and repeat stop. i see if there is no and alternative is that why the media is so important? the propaganda campaign? i mean, if you know the news channel of choice of donald trump, fox news is banned from broad cost effective in, say, britain, or t is obviously banned across europe. see dtn bend from broadcast across the say, britain. is that why the propaganda is so important? because there's 800000000 figure you mentioned to us live on the land in the context of this kind of level of poverty. you'd expect social unrest and civil disobedience, but there isn't any or. yeah, i think the easier i think mode to max one saturday said, you know, the media is the most powerful organization in the world that can make you believe that the innocent or guilty of the guilty innocence. and that's really what it is.
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it's a constant dialogue of brush, a phobia of war mongering of making people feel insecure and on stay on safe. it doesn't have any basis they rationality when you're exposed to the morning noon, a nice, it has an effect and there's a radar and the here that they claim to be the democracies, the rich democracies. but there was an increasing authoritarian as of now across europe in terms of silence and dissenting views. that was very much to the for the war and ukraine where we know true to solve as the 1st casualty of war. but at least in the war and your interact, we know they live on the weapons of mass destruction and all of that. but at least you cause already went on to more positions and half dr. basics. in the warranty planning, you could not argue an anti war position. you were immediately labeled as a booth and pope us or kremlin stooge, a useful atheist, or whatever on off of how to a certain effect. because i mean, how are we in
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a situation where donald trump's proposal for peace and ukraine has provoked this mass of roger single of militarize ation. it doesn't make any sense. so, i mean, the things you know, they say it's excellent. everybody knew that you credit was never going to join nasal. that was never going to happen. he said, what everybody knew, i know, suspect ukraine comes when the war, it smells that they haven't falls a road to the yard or they're useless or anything like that. just look at a map, you prime is a function the size of the ocean, which is a joint, you know, nuclear power on their boards or do the songs. it just doesn't make sense. us and i think stop the war in britain is actually full. the war or russia, such as being the circle left in european countries and we have moved much, but on the sense of shipping propaganda, i understand its getting pretty bad in europe. as regards the continuing genocide
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in gaza all be at the trump stopped. we aerial bombardment of gaza. trump is talking to hum us, we understand. and uh, how bad is it as regards uh, what's happening in palestine because of your opinion. that is being sending the arms. you mentioned a little bit systems to carry out the genocide about times. the union has been slowly complacence in the genocide since the day of starting or so the underlying green lodge of the is rarely activities gave them a prime check and the governments of your and many of them have provided the state coding for calls. i see as far as the coding break, the d u x. rare sophie ation agreements that absolutely unbelievable. when we take back the patch here in the reagan soft arms to israel in earlier days with far less, i mean terrible doors on loving and on all of the know thing on the scale of fault
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. we've seen in guy so. so. um yeah it's, it's, i find it very hard to, to deal with because these people talk about human rights everywhere. but they've insureds that the devastation in dallas a continuous, they couldn't care less offense. anybody over there and there's, there's no credibility whatsoever. and now we see the incredible solidarity all across your in support of palestine. and gosh, i've been suppressed by many european members say to seeing each mentioned they sought. the war accommodation in britain have been halting over initiatives that they organize. we've seen people in germany, meetings been broken off to police, attending meetings in germany, the wearing of a can fly out and stuff like that could launch it in very big trouble in the states of freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, all these things that they consist for other countries and give ads at those other
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countries not doing their even worse from dr. is a 2 factor coming in on, on palestinian solidarity. and even countries like garlands which are launch is less being pro paula signed. and obviously the people of ireland very well charlie, gas was as a country that was occupied for so long at ourselves. but the irish governments have only given rash rate they to have sold judy is god's to is for they to have ensure the selling of israeli backbones by our central bank to our end, the war effort. they've been complex as, as well as adults to speak. we talk to talk, but their actions are different and it's, yeah it's, it's pretty balanced. bush on the other side, the people of your having to, you're everywhere on our main everywhere like germany. we know how to link the, the, the factors are there, but i in earlier, not it last month. i tend of amazing of powers and so back to pursue or so clearly, coal power,
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sewing on and looking for ways to get organized. but the mean husband for so no fan of donald trump or j, the vines clearly who come from a sort of higher in extreme right in terms of economics. but when j. d von selected the europeans on freedom of speech, given the censorship, i understand the so called the was it british broadcasting corporation really easy in britain, censoring a film on palestine the other day? i don't know how it is an island, does he say it's measuring island? did you sympathize with what j. d vans was lecturing these europeans about as regards freedom of speech. he was a 100 percent drives, just because somebody you may disagree with politically sometimes says things that are actors are correct or but you know, that's the bank of america. great, that's the default. that's funny. yeah, i think this is really solid because i think the problem is, and then trump and zones identified very much with the far right. you are
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incredibly ch racist and onto pallets showing that across europe to the left in europe should be also taking up those causes because they're absolutely correct. i mentioned that so many times in the parliament, the authoritarian is coming from new york and discrimination against russian speaking citizens and in, in the ball dictates. never got to mention, but it is prevalent. there are people in jail, in, in the baltic countries just for simply defending the right to speak at motion and so on. it's catastrophic. and yet they, they talk about civil liberties. and um, she wants every bar they've abandoned to international law. and i think this is what we saw with guys because you know myself and me, paula said a 1000 was, and jack's a dental, it was a, a warning, it was a harbinger of a new one, much more violent world square. international law was being publicly found far as we know, international law was never really for the people like split it to to help keep
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things a little bit and check. but by so flagrantly gone far and years in the face of an openly declared and pulled her to tarzan's devastation german side, they narrowed their course to the mos on the they've no right to speak really about rights anywhere on the completion curtailment of civil liberties in your now is, is absolutely etc ration. glad to thank you. that's it for the show will be back again exploring the collapse of you. you gave our monday with trump 2020 the advisory board member and veteran us intelligence officer. the tenant gun allegedly shot for until then, keep in touch my last social media, if it's on sense of new country and i do i channel going. undergoing tv on rumbled, i'll call them to watch new and old episodes of going underground see monday, the,
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[000:00:00;00] the there's a growing consensus that a deal is necessary to end the conflict in ukraine. this is progress. the problem is there is no consensus on what kind of deal that might be from the demands at craig and negotiate with russia. the europeans and zelinski talked the language of
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peace while supporting the stopped message center. you have some just a button that i'm going to send to carly independent to me. ok. now i'm going to be at 2 plus all forms to grab this home 1st on the number

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