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in this national people's congress setting a growth targets a 5 percent and increases in war spending by 7.2 percent. why that was spending arguably because of the old world, just days after a london, somebody's kicks off a decision by european that leads to a home for war on russia. and a donald trump spoke to both houses of congress, doubling down on his desire for peace. the you mentioned brussels, the extraordinary meeting was what you leads to arrange, the impoverishment of you populations in the pursuit of war that as washington and moscow organized restoration of diplomatic relations, direct flights and easing of sanctions. joining me now is the daily former in e p u along side mike wallace was rid of voice and the european parliament against nature, militarism. she joins me now from killed there in ireland. class. thanks so much for coming back on. how about this strange companies, newspaper, the financial times, breathlessly talking as it has all week about the prospects for more and more spending in europe. and since you are in ireland and brussels,
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where you're normally when you're the european parliament, i bet a style of by just asking you. it says the island, foreign minister said yesterday, the militarily neutral, neutral nation will not be found. one thing over any future european peacekeeping mission in ukraine, even talks about the cabinet bill from your t shirts and previous tea, sure, consisting in no way unto mine's islands, commitment to the un. what's going on in iceland? you joining up on the war in russia as yeah, it is quite extraordinary. and of course these words are a complete lie. this is absolutely against the united nations. i'm totally undermining our traditional position of neutrality. which unfairness to police. going to salvage mentioned orland have long been wanting to undermine both. now in this new world there, turbo charging is on. there is a proposal going before the irish parliament. that's the basis upon which we send
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troops abroad, which they call us a triple lock. traditionally, our troops would only go abroad with the un mom's ation with the backing of the government and said they are as parliament, but they want to remove the un mandate from that. so bring them off to engage in european military emissions, which, against the backdrop, all seems underlying announcement um, the acceleration of military spending on time war drum binding at would see the potential for iris men and women in their defense forces being sent abroad to pursue really your team and peer late and so it's quite extraordinary, but they are seizing the present moment in order to do something. but they've long sought to do anyway. give me a few things, probably surprise you as regards foreign policy of these nature, european nations. but what did you make of the british prime minister as it gets tama, using a phrase that is now used across europe, was used on a thursday, b,
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e u and u. k. calling themselves the coalition of the willing, echoing the iraq war invasion which killed wounded or displaced tens of millions of people in this region where i'm speaking to you from. well yeah, sundays. or was almost like paying homage to bush and blair, under healey. go more, which saw one meeting in the rockies and kills and slow surgeon destruction of the country. it's sort of tells you where these people are going and we also hear them are teasing the nation. yahoo! slogan, piece, true strength on them. you know, this is, this is the direction that these people are clearly going. i mean, the truth is, they've been on a ministry bench for a long number of years now. and uh, they seem to be coming down dollars. it's interesting that the figures that they're talking about as but 800000000000 on defense. they didn't even come as and said that you're a cost to get used to trimming. it's welfare apologize because the obviously
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haven't got the money for paying for all of this. if we want to become a warfare stage, and of course nobody asked the people, if you are a bank that quite clearly people would much prefer to see that money spent on things that would actually make them say like there was a forward or has no food on the table to deal with the devastating cost of living crisis that these people cost and the 1st place with their ridiculous response to uninstall shipments and nasal as incursion on on most as far as or on tragically using ukraine in dash a and mean it is disaster all around and they're actually doing the absolute offices of what they should be doing and the consequences for your but this keeps going will be devastating. in my opinion, it already has been thought rather than seizing on an opportunity for peace on the consul them to view or they seem to be desperately doing everything they can to make sure that there's some sort of a war going or even getting worse. i mean,
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sounding, i'll probably take it out myself. i mean, i knew that these were the most incompetent group of leaders ever at the home, or if you're a but they're large, be in co here and to as well. because while they're waiting to get back to us at the same time they're paying for and donald trump space and saying, oh no, no, no, we want to work with you. we do, we will, we will increase our military spread. we're bringing up to 5 percent. we will go there, it's, it's disastrous for your and yet no votes, as you said in the european parliament itself, none in the national government, parliament for europe in union, none in, in britain just, you know, you spent years in the european parliament just means as a picture of how they come to be so out of touch. i mean, are these people ignorant of the why the proxy war in russia started? or are they benefiting from this in some way? why? why would they endanger their populations in this way?
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your institutions helping completely capture by the military industrial complex and this is a process going on over many years. what started it's an economic union became much more involved in issues like foreign affairs and so on through the lisbon tracy, which was rejected in orleans were the only country that actually has of both of its people. if we want to change your teen treaties on, we voted against our tracy and were made to go back, unfold for us and with in the us was the embryo, if you like, of the beginnings of your europe as an entity separate from its 27 member states getting involved in foreign affairs and getting involved in defense mattress, they got a hi representative which was joseph burrell, who, when we were in the parliament tours was pretty dreadful. but he's being replaced by ty, a callous which brings pretty dreadful onto a completely new scale of catastrophic war hawk am and just kind of
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a high account as to who said, it's not that bad. if russia is broken up, the entire russian federation by this war through brain, it's absolutely astounding. like golding, russia on its borders and then blaming real short for any potential response. i mean it's, it's crazy stuff. we were at amazing in new york in parliament, a square. jeffery sat said this is not even baby geo politics. he said, this is not taking us off and i think he's right. they are not painting at all. they've been completed. about 10 years ago, europe decided to look at its decides how would they make themselves safer? and to come up with the answer they invited what they called bizarrely, a group of personalities. and they weren't movie star as they were actually in the majority. they were representative, so if your ph defense industry and they came up with a solution which was do you know how to make yourselves safe? now the best way to do that just by spending
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a lot more money on militarization on from da surprised surprise. that's what they gauge and the very same companies who advised them, who says we're, we're not, we're your partners, we're, we're not industry but your partners. they were the beneficiaries of those contracts, and that's where you saw the 1st your being defense found, and this is all before the warm ukraine for, for the 1st time that we're giving a big in your office in a direct your being defense phones. they had a misnamed your being teased facilitates, specifically allowing expenditure on arms and of course wants to warn your credit and starts with baseless turbocharged. so an original purchase off the books of a bad 6000000000. suddenly became 17000000000 with 2 thirds of the going on military expenditure in ukraine to fuel the war and keep it going on. it's been prom from after program. i know we have figures of those 800000000000 been spoken about. but the interest in paying at the doctor is that the mackenzie's reports on
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european defense. last year came calling to the doc was the direction that europe was going to go on anyway. so there's somebody behind the scenes or organizations behind the scenes pulling the strings on since the announcements. we've seen, chairs in b and b and r i o in tell us all the things you are being defense companies, skyrockets. i mean is sadly, also a chairs um on the stock exchange bar open systems because one of the biggest beneficiaries of your being defense of course is the genocide of stage of israel on your, your claims that is doing this because they're worried about as all russia hasn't aged a software in country we stand for democracy, but they've enables the destruction of guys for the invasion of lab and under don't care about siri yet. so you know, they don't care about these things and they certainly don't care about the people. if you create and politically, somebody came from the top sure of your of by the military industrial co. okay. i
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want to richard. i want to return to the genocide in a moment. but then are you saying it's venality that storm of macro sholtes so much kaya kyle, is these people will get jobs as consultants for the military companies? or is it that they can you please confident they, they live in a volvo. the european union is an absolute ball, though there's some around it by a compliant media who tells them that they're doing the right thing. and it's not an effect them in the financial times. but in order to go to the same doctor, you know, for which democratic society, so i cure to achieve reforms that you want to richie. and the only ease is nursing, though, if you have to create fear and maybe now is the right moment. and that's actually what they're doing and people across europe are very afraid. i mean, i've had groups in belgium, sort of parent groups off of school children sort of sending around messages in the box up group say, you know, guys,
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i think we need to stock up on survival supplies here. the finished government are telling people to get solar powered radios and to give vent of, of, of, or breaking out. where is the effort to stop the war for diplomacy? that's what the united nations and international relations were supposed to be. the peaceful resolution of conflict instead and the war and ukraine there to absolute everything to keep it going and hard. trump may have been very ignorant in his behavior to savanski in the why service the actual comp time to 40 the same was correct at this could have been over in 2 weeks now. what's the last he should have said to him was, well, that actually wouldn't be over in 4 weeks. but the us and britain came in and told us to keep fighting. have for peter to say that, and that's the truth about. and now they want the war to keep going, regardless of the devastating consequences. but i take many citizens around your c das, but it's almost like they're powerless to do anything of basic because the organizations
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and the priorities of the last or whatever, who used to speak edge on these issues have been causal in the ridiculous jingle way. some that could end up being incredibly dangerous for your up and of course us is to long since it's hobbled up potential rival and yeah, and it's, it's not stuff. so i don't even, i think there range. i think they are completely in a bobo at their meteor tells them what they've onto here on their industrial obvious are leading them on particularly in the, to 5 sector for the it's the people of your who are going to lose sight of those are about the daily, i'll stop you that little from the irish politician for remember the are being vitamins after this. right the, this is a story of offense from off a century ago when devastating sacrilege of
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a struck the remote island of nourishes, of the cost of the cycle. and there was in may in motion that the no firewall, no to cause the telephone lines and all has been damaged. always email me there or not, or the whole issue is completed. so for sure. dollars, but we do just have yes. and so, so yeah, and you know, cuz our goal much knows more is pretty short because most good because like bull much missile, that's the movie partial day for me. what is this different deals? and that's kind of what we service go. so you deal with lo and behold them to open invoice to 1479 here. 75. literally sally's our brand new deal. now not from a pro se if it's that remote that it was sent out to yourself to fill out the old
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product. darlene used to be as it how legit and it it goes to be thought. yeah. i'm not sure if i'm gonna do it on the promotion there, but it pay out to last year for no over. you can't about them for me yet. obviously they play i, i will a down there, but can one year solve wanted it to dig into monte vista, go to use their pool, most the the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the irish politician. i was of just remember the rpm parliament daily to play. you mentioned at the end of the one that the trump might have been behaving ignorantly in the oval office. i
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think i'll give lee was told the truth by to see gab lieutenant colonel is new director of national intelligence. i mean, uh, do you think uh, do you think now your opinions understand that uh, the, the usa will leave nato i, i'm not to say he's for, i don't know what they understood onto. i think they understand nothing. it's almost as if they're kind of gagging for a war with russia. it's beyond the lead from religion besides a nuclear power on the same thompson. and it's just also really bizarre. i honestly, i, having witnessed them over the past 5 years, incorporating an integration european decides more and more as being synonymous with nationwide. they're kind of broader, less now which room for the house and they don't really know what to do. and you could almost see a situation where the us, china and russia are sort of getting along. ok, well, maybe not join under us,
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but you know, you're being told to be excluded and rolling down the wrong road looking for a solution. and they are also a bank go bankrupt, or we saw that as, of course, you know, in, in other issues and garza and older mattress as well as even on their own home turf . it's the same. you joined attention to the use of shannon apple in ireland. before for u. s foreign policy, i didn't know whether it made you feel happy or, or the what you felt that the there. now the united states is telling britain, britain, which hosts thousands of us troops, all those us bases, all those weapons, just setting them do not share any intelligence with zalinski. and ukraine said it's, it's so public as it was, that the britain just has to obey what the united states does. but these are all, so they really are occupying troops and you are totally, i mean it, this is the info here. and something your opinion, major ship on the one hand,
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their pricing talk and they're talking about minutes rising more and they're going to somebody, a crane and all this. but at the same time, they are almost waiting for him out the face of trump also. it's the worst tactic. what they should do is go talk to russia themselves, develop an independence, european foreign policy, the benefits the people of europe and said they've been subservient to us interests for so long. now it's almost the kind of break ends, but it's, even when the us is in their face, making it obvious that they are subservient, it's, i think these are astounding times and they are so i was of torch is it is terrifying that these idiots are boss constitutes the leadership of europe and in the european parliament, you'd have met lots of european members of the european parliament from very different electorates as they prepare to massively cut social welfare programs in
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britain and island pads, pensions welfare, housing, all these different programs for this war on russia, just to give us a, give us a picture of the scale of inequality in the european union. i mean 195000000 is the figure from the european commission of 95000000 people tonight are frightened of not being able to read. yeah, there is a housing crisis right across europe. now, here in ireland, very people in relatively god's employment, it's time to forward to either rent or buy a house. there's a public services crisis really everywhere in europe, not to mention the climate catastrophe and our responsibilities in that regard. and instead, what we've seen is billions being taken as a purchase, which were designed to deal with the crime occurrences being used on defense. so it's a total for me,
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not only are we taking money away from work that could be drawn to deal with the environmental problems, they're going to defense, the carbon footprint of which is never tax calculations anywhere. so there's huge chrysler must have cost of living prices all across europe and for ordinary citizens to hear that they can find a 100000000000 on weapons of destruction, to kill people, and to have their own children be killed in the process. it's off the richter scale, and yet the media in your bleeds and repeat stop. i see if there is no and alternative is that one of them may have you're so important the propaganda campaign. i mean, if you know the news channel of choice of donald trump, fox news is banned from broad cost effective and say, britain, o t is obviously banned across your procedure, tn ben from broadcast across the say, britain, is that why the propaganda is so important? because there's 800000000 figure you mentioned to us live on the land in the
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context of this kind of level of poverty. you'd expect social unrest um and civil disobedience, but there isn't any or. yeah, i think the easier i think mode to max one saturday said, you know, the media is the most powerful organization in the world that can make you believe, but the innocent or guilty of the guarantee innocent. and that's really what it is . it's a constant dialogue of russia phobia of war mongering of making people feel insecure and on stay on safe. it doesn't have any basis thing rationality when you're exposed to the morning noon at nice, but it has some effect and there's a radar and the here that they claim to be the democracies, the rich democracies. but there was an increasing authoritarian as of now across europe in terms of silence and dissenting views. that was very much to the for the war and ukraine where we know true to solve as the 1st casualty of war. but at least in the war and you interact,
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we know they live on the weapons of mass destruction and all of that. but at least you cause i urge you went on to board positions and half dr. basics. in the warranty planning, you could not argue an anti war position. you were immediately labeled as a booth and pop pleasure kremlin stooge, a useful atheist, or whatever, and off how to a certain effect. because i mean, how are we in a situation where donald trump's proposal for peace and ukraine has provoked this mosse of roger single of militarize ation. it doesn't make any sense. i mean, the things, you know, they say it's excellent. everybody knew that you credit was never going to join nasal. that was never going to happen. he said, when everybody knew a no suspect ukraine comes when the war. it's not that they haven't falls a road to the yard or they're useless or anything like that. just look them up. ukraine is a fraction the size of the ocean, which is a joint, you know, nuclear power on their boards or do the songs. it just doesn't make sense. and i
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think stop the war in britain is actually for the war such as such as being the circle left in european countries. and we have moved much, but on censorship and propaganda, i understand its getting pretty bad in your as regards the continuing genocide in gaza all be at the trump stopped the aerial bombardment of gaza. trump is talking to hum us, we understand. and uh, how bad is it is with goods uh, what's happening in palestine because of your opinion. that is being sending the, as you mentioned l, but systems to carry out the genocide about times a union has been slowly complacence in the genocide since the day had started or so the underlying green logs would be as rarely activities gave them a blank check. and the governments of europe and many of them have provided the
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arms, they couldn't call for a series far they couldn't break the you israel. so see ation agreements. absolutely. unbelievable. when we think back to attach here in the reagan stopped arms to israel in earlier days with far less, i mean terrible morris on life in and on all of the know thing on the scale of fault. we've seen in guy so. so yeah, it's, it's, i find it very hard to, to deal with because these people talk about human rights everywhere. but they've insureds that the devastation in gaza continues. they couldn't care less things anybody over there and there's, there's no credibility whatsoever. and now we see the on credible solidarity all across your, in support of palestine and guys have been suppressed by many your team members. say to the scene you mentioned they sought,
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the war coalition and breaking how being halting over initiative stuff. they organized and seen people in germany. meetings been broken off, the police attending meetings in germany to wearing africa fire and stuff like that could launch it in very big trouble in the states. a freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, all these things that they insist for other countries and give them up as other countries not doing their even worse than that. there's a 2 factor coming in on, on palestinian solidarity. and even countries like garlands, which are law just being pro palo sign and obviously the people of art and very well charlie, gas is as a country that would occupied for so long at ourselves. but the irish governments have only given rash rate. they to have sold you the in scopes to is for they to help ensure the selling of x ray, the backbone display, or central bank to or around the war effort. they've been complicit as well as a double speak. we told to talk, but their actions are different and it's,
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yeah it's, it's pretty balanced. bush on the other side, the people of your being tier everywhere. and i mean, everywhere like germany, we know how to him to the, the factors are there, but i in earlier long it last month, a change of amazing of tires and so back to pursue or so clearly, coal power. so i'm looking for ways to get organized, but the mean husband for, sorry, yeah, no fan of donald trump will j, the vines clearly who come from a sort of higher in extreme right in terms of economics. but when j. d von selected the europeans on freedom of speech, given the censorship, i understand the so called the was it british broadcasting corporation babies in britain censoring a film on palestine the other day. i don't know how it is an island. does he say it's basically an island? did you sympathize with what j. d vans was lecturing these europeans about as
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regards freedom of speech? he was a 100 percent. right? it was just because somebody you may disagree with police because sometimes says things that are actors are correct or the, you know, that's, they're going to get to make a good america. great. that's the default. that's funny. yeah. i think this is really solve because i think the problem is, and then trump and zones identified very much with the far arrives, who are incredibly ch racist and onto pallets showing that across europe to the left in europe should be also taking up those causes because they're absolutely correct. i mentioned it so many times in the parliament, the authoritarianism coming from new york and discrimination against russian speaking citizens. and in the, in the ball to the states. never got to mansions, but it is prevalent. there are people in jail, in, in the baltic countries just for simply defending the right to speak, russian and so on. it's catastrophic. and yet they,
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they talk about civil liberties. and um, she, when brilliance, every bird, they've abandoned international law. and i think this is what we saw with guys that because you know myself, somebody, paula said a 1000 was and talked to the dental. it was a, a warning. it was a harbinger of a new one, much more violent worlds where international law was being publicly found. far as we know, international law was never really for the big boys, split it to try to keep things a little bit and checked, but by so flagrantly gone far and years in the face of an openly declared and poultry to tarry. jen debit stays in german, so they narrowed their course to the mos on the they've no right to speak really about rights anywhere on the complete curtailment of civil liberties in your now is, is absolutely etc. ration. glad to thank you. that's it for the show will be back again exploring the collapse of you. you gave our monday with trump 2020 advisory board member and veteran us intelligence officer. the tenant gun allegedly shot for until then keep in touch. my last social media results as a new country and i to
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in the headlines here with off the international. i'll come, i'll shut off a ca, i'll jill on it. he says, those who protest his power and syria are committing a quote, great fit and consequences are all in the meantime. as much as execute. sions across syria, with a mental weren't able to just group in the process and the rest of the nation. those loyal to us side of the gun down and some of the was divided since the government was over. but from the israel and makers of biology strikes on levon on a bit to circled ceasefire for the idea of creating his targeting weapons stockpiles in the south. and apparently it's all about the money as the us pulls back on. it's a to ukraine. americans military industrial complex.

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