organized restoration of diplomatic relations, direct flights and easing of sanctions. joining me now is the daily former bp you along side mike wallace with array of voice in the early in parliament against nature, militarism. she joins me now from killed there in ireland. class. thank so much for coming back on. how about this strange companies, newspaper, the financial times, breathlessly talking as it has all week about the prospect for more and more spending in europe. and since you are in island or in brussels, where you're normally when you were the european parliament hi, business style by just asking you. it says the islands, foreign minister said yesterday, the militarily neutral, neutral nation will not be found. one thing over any future european peacekeeping mission in ukraine, even talks about the cabinet bill from the t shirts and previous t shore, consisting in no way undermines islands commitment to the un. what's going on in

iceland? you joining up on the war and russia? yeah, it is quite extraordinary and of course these words are a complete lie. this is absolutely against the united nations. i am totally undermining our traditional position of neutrality. which unfairness to police, going to salvage mentioned orland have long been wanting to undermine both. now in this new world, there, turbo charging is on. there is a proposal going before the irish parliament. that's the basis upon which we send troops abroad, which they call us a triple lock. traditionally, ours troops would only go abroad with you and mom's ation with the backing of the government and said that they are as parliament, but they want to remove the un mandate from that. so bring them off to engage in european military emissions, which against the backdrop of seeing the underlying announcement um, the acceleration of military spending on time war drum binding at would see the potential for iris men and women in their defense force has been sent abroad to

pursue really your teen interior late and so it's quite extraordinary, but they are seizing the present moment in order to do something that they've long sought to do. anyway, i mean few things probably surprise you as regards foreign policy of these nato european nations. but what did you make of the british prime minister as it gets dom and using a phrase that is now used across europe was used on a thursday b, e u and you k, calling themselves the coalition of the willing, echoing the iraq war invasion which killed wounded or displaced tens of millions of people in this region where i'm speaking to you from. well yeah, sundays. or was almost like paying homage to bush and blair, under healey go more, which saw $1000000.00 iraqis kills and saw sort of destruction of the country. it's sort of tells you where these people are going and we also hear them repeating the

nation. yahoo slogan, piece, truth strength on them. you know, this is, this is the direction that these people are clearly going. i mean, the truth is, they've been on a military band for a long number of years now, and they seem to be joining down dollars. it's interesting that the figures that they're talking about is but $800.00 b and on defense. they can even come as and said that you're a cost to get used to trimming. it's welfare apologize because we obviously haven't got the money for paying for all of this. if we want to become a warfare stage, and of course nobody asked the people of your, of a bank that quite clearly people would much prefer to see that money spent on things that would actually make them say, like there room forward or has no food on the table to deal with the devastating cost of living crisis. these people costs in the 1st place with their ridiculous response to uninstall summons in nasal as incursion on on most as far as are on tragic. h, using ukraine in dash

a and mean it is disaster all around and they're actually doing the absolute offices of what they should be doing and the consequences for your if, if this keeps going, will be devastating. in my opinion, it already has been thought, rather than seizing on an opportunity for peace on the continent of europe. they seem to be desperately doing everything they can to make sure that there's some sort of a war going or even getting worse. i mean, sounding, i'll probably make it out myself. i mean, i knew that these were the most incompetent group of leaders ever at the home, or if you're a but they're large, be in co here and to as well. because while they're waiting to get back to us at the same time they're paying for and donald trump space and saying, oh no, no, no, we want to work with you. we would do, we will, we will increase our military expand. we're bringing up to 5 percent. we will go there. it's, it's disastrous for your and yet no votes. as you says in the european parliament

itself, none in the national government parliament for europe in union, none in, in britain just, you know, you spent years in the european parliament just pains as a picture of how they come to be so out of touch. i mean, are these people ignorant of the, why the proxy war in russia started, or are they benefiting from this in some way? why? why would they endanger their populations in this way? your institutions hoping completely capture by the military industrial complex. and this is a process going on over many years, spot started. it's an economic union became much more involved in issues like foreign affairs and so on through the lisbon tracy, which was projected in orleans were the only country that actually has a bolts of its people. if we want to change your teen treaties that we voted against dr. easy and were made to go back, unfold for us and with in the us was the embryo, if you like,

of the beginnings of your, your, of us an entity, separate from it's 27 member states getting involved in foreign affairs and getting involved in defense, mattress they got a hi representative, which was joseph burrell, who, when we were in the parliament, torres was pretty dreadful. but he's being replaced by ty, a callous which brings pretty dreadful onto a completely new scale of catastrophic war hawk. i'm just kind of a high kind of issue. who said it's not that bad if i, russia is broken up the entire russian federation by this war through your brain of some kind of standing like golding, russia on its border some then blaming real shed for any potential response. i mean it's, it's crazy stuff. we were advertising into your being parliament square, jeffrey sachs said this is not even baby geo politics. he said, this is not thinking of all. and i think he's right. they are not painting at all.

they've been completed. about 10 years ago, europe decided to look at its decides how would they make themselves safer? and to come up with the answer they invited what they called bizarrely, a group of personalities and they weren't movie stars. they were actually in the majority. they were representative. so if you're peons defense industry and they came up with a solution which was do you know how to make yourselves safe? now? the best way to do that just by spending a lot more money on militarize ation. on from da surprised surprise. that's what they gauge and the very same companies who advise them, who says we're, we're not, we're your car and it was weren't, we're not industry where your partner's, they were the beneficiaries of those contracts. and that's where you saw the 1st european defense fund, and this is all before the war. i'm ukraine for, for the 1st time that we're giving a big in your office in a direct your being defense phones. they had to misnamed your theme. he's facility specifically allowing expenditure on arms and of course wants to warn your credit

and started. this was turbocharged. so an original purchase off the books of a bad 6000000000. suddenly became 17000000000 with 2 thirds of the going on military expenditure in ukraine to fuel the war and keep it going on. it's been program officer program. i know we have segers of those 800000000000 been spoken about, but the interest in paying it, but it's also stuck the mackenzie's reports on european defense. last year, 10 calling to the thought was the direction that europe was going to go on anyway. so there's somebody behind the scenes or organizations behind the scenes pulling the strings on since the announcements. we've seen, chairs in b and b and r i o in tell us all the things you are being defense companies skyrockets. i mean, sadly, also shares um on the stock exchange bar open systems because one of the biggest beneficiaries of your being defense of course is the genocide of stage of it. so on

your, your claims that is doing this because they're worried about as all russia, housing page of the software and country we've done for democracy, but they've enables the destruction of guy. so the invasion of lebanon, they don't care about syria. so you know, they don't care about these things and they certainly don't care about the people if you've credit and politically. somebody came from the top sure of your of by the military industrial co. okay. i want to richard. i want to return to the genocide in a moment. but then are you saying it's banality? that storm of macro sholtes so much kaya kyle, is these people will get jobs as consultants for the military companies? or is it that they can you please competent? they, they live in a volvo. the european union is an absolute although they're surrounded by a compliant media who tells them that they're doing the right thing and attempting to fax them into financial times. but in order to go to the same doctor, you know,

for which democratic society, so i cure to achieve reforms that you want to achieve. and only ease is nothing else you have to create fear and maybe now is the right moment. and that's actually what they're doing and people across europe are very afraid. i mean, i've had groups in belgium, sort of parent groups off of school children sort of sending around messages in the box up group saying, you know, guys, i think we need to stock up on survival supplies here. the finished government are telling people to get solar powered radios and to give vent of, of, of, or breaking out. where is the effort to stop the war for diplomacy? that's what the united nations and international relations were supposed to be. the peaceful resolution of conflict instead and the war and ukraine, that the absolute, everything to keep it going and hard. trump may have been very ignorant in his behavior to savanski in the why service the actual comp time to 40 was saying was

correct at this could have been over in 2 weeks. now. what's the latest you should have said to him was, well, that actually would it be over in 4 weeks. but the us and britain came in and told us to keep fighting, have for peter to say that, and that's the truth about. and there they want the war to keep going, regardless of the devastating consequences. but i take many citizens around your c das, but it's almost like they're powerless to do anything of basic because the organizations and the priorities of the last or whatever, who used to speak ups on these issues have been causal in the road taken less ching away some that could end up being incredibly dangerous for your up and of course us is to long since it's hobbled up potential rival and yeah, and it's, it's mad stuff. so i don't even, i think their brain tags. i think they are completely in a bubble at their media, tells them what they want to hear on their industrial obvious are leading them on

particularly and defend sector for the it's the people of your who are going to live in science and those are about the daily, i'll stop you that little from the irish politician for the member of the european parliament after this spring the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world will receive re washington as for so the funder line like so. say we have the tools, well we just start with stability and business deals. what is, let me let me on that. we have very quick propaganda. you know, a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask a better. the answer is, will be the

the release of russian states as one of the most sense communities, not getting hold of all sense and up the must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will fan in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the russians coding and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for the question,

did you say a request, which is the welcome back to going underground? i'm still here with the irish politician. i was of the, remember the already in parliament daily, a clear you mentioned at the end of the one that the trump might have been behaving ignorantly in the oval office. i think i'll gladly was told the truth by to see gab lieutenant colonel is new director of national intelligence. i mean, uh, do you think uh, do you think now your opinions understand that the, the, the usa will leave nature i, i'm not the sage for, i don't know what they understood onto. i think they understand nothing. it's

almost as if they're kind of gagging for a war with russia. it's beyond the lead from where he lives, besides a nuclear power on the same consonant. it's just also really bizarre. i honestly, having witnessed them over the past 5 years, incorporating an integration european defense more and more as being synonymous with nasal. they're kind of was or less now which one but the hell and they don't really know what to do. and you could almost see a situation where the us, china and russia are sort of getting along. ok, well, maybe not join under us, but you know, you are being told to be excluded and rolling down the wrong mode, looking for a solution. and there are also a bang go bankrupt, and we saw that as, of course, you know, in, in other issues and garza and another mattress as well. because even on their own home turf, it's the same. you join attention to the use of shannon airport in island before for us foreign policy. i didn't know whether it made you feel happy or,

or the what you felt that the there. now the united states is telling britain, britain, we chose thousands of us troops, all those us bases, all those weapons, just setting them do not share any intelligence with zalinski. and ukraine says it's, it's so public as it was, that the britain just has to obey what the united states does. but these are all, so they really are occupying troops and you are totally, i mean it, this is the info here and something, your opinion major shift on the one hand, their pricing talk and they're talking about minutes rising more and they're going to somebody ukraine and all this, but at the same time, they are almost waiting for him out the fees of trump also, it supports tactic. what they should do is go talk to russia themselves, develop an independent european foreign policy, the benefits, the people of europe in said they've been subservient to us interests for so long.

now. it's almost the kind of break ends of us, even when the us is in their face, making it obvious that they are subservient, it's i think these are astounding times they are. so i was of torch is it is terrifying that these idiots are, was, constitutes the leadership of europe and in the are being parliament. you'd have met lots of european members of the or a bmw parliament from very different electorates as they prepare to massively cut social welfare programs in britain and island pads, pensions welfare, housing, all these different programs for this war on russia. just to give us a, give us a picture of the scale of inequality in the european union. i mean 195000000 is the figure from the european commission of 95000000 people tonight are frightened of

not being able to read. yeah, there is a housing crisis right across europe. now, here in ireland, very people in relatively god's employments can't afford to either rent or buy a house. there's a public services crisis really everywhere in europe, not to mention the climate catastrophe and our responsibilities in that regard. and instead, what we've seen is billions being taken out of bullshit switch were designed to deal with the crime, a crisis being used on defense. so it's a total for me. not only are we taking money away from work that could be drawn to deal with the environmental problems, they're going to defense, the carbon footprint of which is never tax calculations anywhere. so there's huge, chrysler must have cost of living prices all across europe. and for ordinary citizens to hear that they can find a 100000000000 on weapons of destruction, to kill people,

and to have their own children and be killed in the process. it's off director scanner and yet the media in europe, fleets, and repeat stop. i see if there is no and alternative is that one of the major is so important the propaganda campaign. that means if you know the news channel of choice of donald trump, fox news is banned from broad cost effective and say, britain or t is obviously banned. across europe see dtn band from broadcast across the say, britain, is that why the propaganda is so important? because this 800000000000 figure you mentioned to us live on the land in the context of this kind of level of poverty. you'd expect social unrest and civil disobedience, but there isn't any a. yeah, i think the easier i think mode to max one saturday said, you know, the media is the most powerful organization in the world that can make you believe that the innocent or guilty of the guilty innocence. and that's really what it is. it's a cost and dias overall shift all the of war mongering of making people feel insecure

and on stay on safe. it doesn't have any basis thing. rationality when you're exposed to the morning noon, the noise at it has some effect and there's a radar and the here that they claim to be the democracies, the rich democracies. but there is an increasing authoritarian as of now across europe in terms of silence and dissenting views. that was very much to the for the war and ukraine where we know through to solve as the 1st casualty of war. but at least in the war and you interact, we know they lied on the weapons of mass destruction and all of that. but at least you cause already went on to board positions and half dr. basics. in the warranty planning, you could not argue an anti war position. you were immediately labeled as a booth and pope us or kremlin stooge, a useful atheist, or whatever i off 5 is how to a certain effect. because i mean, how are we in a situation where donald trump's proposal for peace and ukraine has provoked this

mass of roger single of militarize ation. that doesn't make any sense. so, i mean, the things, you know, they said that at what everybody knew that you paid was never going to join nasal. that was never going to happen. he said what everybody knew, i know suspect ukraine comes when the war it's smoke, but they haven't falls a road to the yard or they're useless or anything like that. just look at a map. ukraine is a fraction the size of the ocean, which is a joint, you know, nuclear power on their boards or do the songs. it just doesn't make sense. and i think stop the war in britain is actually for the war such as such as being the circle left in european countries. and we have moved much. but on censorship and propaganda, i understand its getting pretty bad in your as regards the continuing genocide in

gauze, old, the at the trump stopped the aerial bombardment of gaza. trump is talking to hum us, we understand. and uh, how bad is it is with goods uh, what's happening in palestine because of your opinion. that is being sending the arms. you mentioned l bit systems to carry out the genocide about times. the union has been slowly complacent in the genocide since the day had started or so to underline. green logs would be as rarely activities gave them a blind check. and the comments of your a to many of them have provided the state couldn't call for a series far they couldn't break the you israel sophie ation agreements. uh, absolutely. unbelievable. home routine fact apache or in the reagan soft arms to israel in earlier days with far less, i mean terrible doors on nothing and on all of the know thing on the scale. i thought we'd seen in guy so. so, um, yeah, it's, it's,

but i find it very hard to, to deal with because these people talk about human rights everywhere. but they've insureds that the devastation in dallas a continuous, they couldn't care less of things any buzzing over there. and they take no credibility whatsoever. and now we see the all incredible solidarity all across your in support of pol assigned and guys have been suppressed by many your team members say to the same. each dimension they sought, the war coalition in britain have been holiday and over initiative stuff. they organize. we've seen people in germany, meetings been broken off to police, attending meetings in germany, the wearing of a can fly out and stuff like that could launch it in very big trouble in the states . a freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, all these things that they consist for other countries and give them a those other countries not doing their even worse than that. there's

a 2 factor coming in on, on palestinian solidarity. and even countries like garlands which are law just being pro palo sign and obviously the people of ireland very well charlie gas, which as a country that would occupied for so long at ourselves. but the irish governments have only given rash rate they to have. so judy is god's to is for they to have ensure the selling of its way, the back bombs player central bank to our and the war effort. they've been complex such as well as adults to speak. we talk to talk, but their actions are different and it's, yeah it's, it's pretty balanced, boss on the other side, the people of your helping to your everywhere. and i mean, everywhere like germany, we know how killing that the factors are there, but i in earlier long it last month i change of amazing of tires and so back to pursue or so clearly, coal power sewing on and looking for ways to get organized. but the mean husband

for so no fan of donald trump or j, the vines clearly who come from us sort of hide in at extreme right in terms of economics. but when j. d von selected the europeans on freedom of speech, given the censorship, i understand the so called the was it british broadcasting corporation babies in britain censoring a film on palestine the other day? i don't know how it is an island, does he say it's measuring island? did you sympathize with what j d vans was lecturing these europeans about as regards freedom of speech? he was a 100 percent drives, just because somebody you may disagree with politically sometimes says things that are actors are correct or you know, that's fair. what you're going to get to make a good america. great. that's the default. that's funny. yeah. i think this is really solid because i think the problem is on, on the trump and zones identified very much with the far right. you are incredibly

ch racist. and onto pallets showing that across your foot, the left being your of should be also taking up those causes because they're absolutely correct. i mentioned that so many times in the parliament, the authoritarianism coming from new york and discrimination against russian speaking citizens. and in, in the ball to the states never got to mention, but it is prevalent. there are people in jail, in, in the baltic countries just for simply defending the right to speak at motion and so on. it's catastrophic. and yet they, they talk about civil liberties and she, when brilliance, every bird they've abandoned to international law. and i think this is what we saw with guys because you know, myself and me for a said a 1000 was, and jack's a dental, it was a, a warning, it was a harbinger of a new one, much more violent world square. international law was being publicly found far as we know, international law was never really for the people likes, but it didn't help key things

a little bit and checked. but by so flagrantly gone far and years in the face of an openly declared and pulled her to courage and devastation genocide, they narrowed their course to the mouse on the there's no right to speak. really. a bird writes anywhere on the complete curtailment of civil liberties in europe now is, is actually empty. accelerating, glad to thank you. that's it for the show will be back again, exploring the collapse of you. you gave our monday with trump 2020 advisory board member and veteran us intelligence officer, detective gun allegedly shot for until then. keep in touch my last social media. if it's on the fence of your country and i do i channel going. undergoing tv on rumbled, i'll call them to watch new and old episodes of going underground see monday, the who. what else seemed wrong?

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