the, the, i'm actually under a tendency and welcome to going underground rule gusting all around the world from the heart of the middle east, where israel to the teeth by donald trump has launched a renewed siege and its genocidal war and gaza. that when most of the world looks to the global economic superpower, china, which far had strips the usa and g, d, p by p b. today's the 3rd plenary, the 14th communist national people's congress, setting a growth targets a 5 percent and increases in war spending by 7.2 percent. why that was spending arguably because of the old world, just days after a london, somebody's kicks off a decision by european that leads to a home for war on russia. and a donald trump spoke to both houses of congress, doubling down on his desire for peace. the you mentioned brussels, the extraordinary meeting was for you, it leads to arrange the impoverishment of you populations in the pursuit of war that as washington and moscow organized restoration of diplomatic relations,

direct flights and easing of sanctions. joining me now is the daily former bp who along side mike wallace was rid of voice in the army and parliament against nature militarism. she joins me now from killed there in ireland. class. thanks so much for coming back on. how about these strange companies, newspaper, the financial times, breathlessly talking as it has all week about the prospects for more and more spending in europe. and since you are in ireland and brussels, where you're normally when you're the european parliament, i bet a style of by just asking you. it says the island, it's foreign minister said yesterday, the militarily neutral, neutral nation will not be found. one thing over any future european peacekeeping mission in ukraine even talks about a cabinet bill from your t shirts and previous t shock insisting in no way unto mine's islands, commitment to the un. what's going on in iceland?

you joining up on the war in russia? yeah, it is quite extraordinary and of course these words are a complete lie. this is absolutely against the united nations. i'm totally undermining our traditional position of neutrality. which unfairness the police going to salvage mentioned orland have long been wanting to undermine both. now in this new world, there, turbo charging is on. there is a proposal going before the irish parliament. that's the basis upon which we send troops abroad, which they call us a triple lock. traditionally, our troops would only go abroad with the un mom's ation with the boxing of the government and said that they are as parliament, but they want to remove the un mandate from that. so bring them off to engage in european military emissions, which against the backdrop policies of underlying announcement um, the acceleration of military spending on time war drum binding at would see the potential for iris men and women in their p at defense forces being sent abroad to

pursue really your team and peer lane, so it's quite extraordinary, but they are seizing the present moment in order to do something that they've long sought to do. anyway, give me a few things, probably surprise you as regards foreign policy of these nato european nations. but what did you make of the british prime minister as it gets style ma, using a phrase that is now used across europe, was used on a thursday, b, e u and u. k. calling themselves the coalition of the willing, echoing the iraq war invasion which killed wounded or displaced tens of millions of people in this region where i'm speaking to you from. well yeah, sundays. or was almost like paying homage to bush and blair, under healey. go more, which saw one, many in the rockies, and kills and slow search on the destruction of the country. it's sort of tells you where these people are going. and we also hear them are teasing the nation. yahoo

slogan, piece to strength on them. you know, this is, this is the direction that these people are clearly going. i mean, the truth days, they've been on a military band for a long number of years now. and they seem to be coming down dollars. it's interesting that the figures that they're talking about is about 800000000000 on defense. they can even come as and said that you're a cost to get used to trimming it's welfare project because we obviously haven't got the money for paying for all of this. if we want to become a warfare stage, and of course nobody asked the people of your a bank that quite clearly people would much prefer to see that money spent on things that would actually make them safe, like their room forward or has no food on the table to deal with the devastating cost of living crisis with these people costs and the 1st place with their ridiculous response to uninstalled months, in nasal as incursion on on most as far as are on tragic using ukraine in dash

a. i mean it is disaster. all around and they're actually doing the absolute offices of what they should be doing and the consequences for your if, if this keeps going, will be devastating. in my opinion, it already has been thought rather than seizing on an opportunity for peace on the continent of europe. they seem to be desperately doing everything they can to make sure that there's some sort of a war going or even getting worse. i mean, sounding, i'll make it out myself. i mean, i knew that these were the most incompetent group of leaders ever at the home, or if you're a but they're large, the in co here and to as well. because while they're waiting to get back to us at the same time they're paying for and donald trump space and saying, oh no, no, no, we want to work with you. we would do, we will, we will increase our military spread. we're bringing up to 5 percent. we will go there. it's, it's disastrous for your and yet no votes. as you says in the european parliament

itself, none in the national government parliaments of europe in union, none in, in britain just, you know, you spent years in the european parliament just pains as a picture of how they come to be so out of touch. i mean, are these people ignorant of the, why the proxy war in russia started, or are they benefiting from this in some way? why? why would they endanger their populations in this way? your institutions hoping completely capture by the military industrial complex. and this is a process going on over many years, spots started, it's an economic dealing and became much more involved in issues like foreign affairs and so on through the lisbon tracy, which was projected in orleans were the only country that actually has a photos of its people, if we want to change your teen treaties and we voted against dr. easy and were made to go back, unfold for us and with in the us was the embryo. and you're like of the beginnings

of your, your, of us an entity separate from it's 27 member states getting involved in foreign affairs and getting involved in defense mattress. they got a high representative, which was joseph burrell, who, when we were in the parliament tours, was pretty dreadful. but he's being replaced by tie, a callous, which brings pretty dreadful onto a completely new scale of catastrophic war hop am and kind of a high account issue. who said it's not that bad if i russia is broken up the entire russian federation by this war through brain. the absolutely astounding, like golding, russia on its border some then blaming real shed for any potential response. i mean it's, it's crazy stuff. we were at amazing in new york in parliament, a square jeffrey sachs said this is not even baby geo politics. he said, this is not taking us all. and i think he's right. they are not painting at all.

they've been completed. about 10 years ago, europe decided to look at its decides how would they make themselves safer? and to come up with the answer they invited for the calls bizarrely, a group of personalities and they weren't movie stars. they were actually in the majority. they were representative. so if you are p and defense industry and they came up with a solution which was do you know how to make yourselves safe? now the best way to do that is by spending a lot more money on militarization on from da surprised surprise. that's what they gauge and the very same companies who advised them, who says we're, we're not, we're your car and it was weren't, we're not industry but your partners. they were the beneficiaries of those contracts. and that's where you saw the 1st european defense fund, and this is all before the warm ukraine for, for the 1st time that we're giving a big in your office in a direct your being defense phones. they had a misnamed your theme piece facility, specifically allowing expenditure on arms and of course wants to warn your credit

and start to this was turbocharged. so an original purchase off the books of a bad 6000000000. suddenly became 17 barian widths, 2 thirds of duck going on military expenditure in ukraine's fuel the war and keep it going on. it's been program officer program. i know we have figures of those 800000000000 been spoken about. but the interest in paying about tasha is that the mackenzie's reports on european defense last year came calling to the thought was the direction that europe was going to go on anyway. so there's somebody behind the scenes or organizations behind the scenes pulling the strings on since the announcements. we've seen. chairs in b and b and r i o in tell us all the things you are being defense companies skyrockets. i mean, sadly, also a chairs um on the stock exchange bar l, but systems because one of the biggest beneficiaries of your team defense of course

is the genocide of stage of a. so i'm, yeah, you're a claims that is doing this because they're worried about x o. rush, your husband page of the software and country we stand for democracy. but david enables the destruction of guys for the invasion of lab and on. they don't care about siri yet. so, you know, they don't care about these things and they certainly don't care about the people if you create and politically. somebody came from the top sure of your, of by the military, industrial copay. i want to richard. i want to return to the genocide in a moment. but then are you saying it's banality? that storm of macro sholtes so much kaya kyle is these people will get jobs as consultants for the military companies? or is it that they can usually complete confident they, they live in a volvo. new york in union is an absolute bulb of their, surrounded by a compliant media. who tells them that they're doing the right thing and attempting to fax them into financial times. but in order to go to the same doctor, you know,

for which democratic society, so i cure to achieve reforms that you want to achieve. and the only ease is nothing, no, if you have to create fear and maybe now is the right moment. and that's actually what they're doing and people across europe are very afraid. i mean, i've had groups in belgium, sort of parent groups off of school children sort of sending around messages in the box up group saying, you know, guys, i think we need to stock up on survive or supplies here. the finish government are telling people to get solar powered radios in the event of, of, of, or breaking out. where is the effort to stop the war for diplomacy? that's what the united nations and international relations were supposed to be. the peaceful resolution of conflict instead and the war and ukraine there to absolute everything to keep it going and hard. trump may have been very ignorant in his behavior too. so landscape in the why says the actual comp time to 40 percent was

correct at this could have been over in 2 weeks. now. what's the last he should have said to him was, well, that actually wouldn't be over in 4 weeks. but the us and britain came in and told us to keep trident have for peter to say that, and that's the truth about. and now they want the war to keep going, regardless of the devastating consequences. but i take many citizens around your c das, but it's almost like they're powerless to do anything of basic because the organizations and the priorities of the last or whatever, who used to speak ups on these issues hopping causal in the road, taking less ching away some that could end up being incredibly dangerous for your up and of course us is to long since it's hobbled up potential rival and yeah, and it's, it's mad still. so i don't even, i think their brain tags. i think they are completely in a bubble at their media, tells them what they want to hear on their industrial obvious are leading them on,

particularly in the defense sector for the it's the people of your who are going to lose sight of those are about the daily, i'll stop you that little from the irish politician for remember the european bottom and after the spring, the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing press for so the funder law and like so say we have the tools. well we just start with stability and business deal. so what should i need to be living on that you have fairly quick propaganda. you know a price here in your i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask the better. the answer is will be the

priest. then please. when you appear to put the, the, the will i just clicked on subject. good. so what mode those are right in the order to limit the learning. detect, as i mentioned that enough for 3 wisdom and maybe even the 2 even though i still have an order for no reason to tell or should i just click on such that the one is our list, any sub list of them? that is one key of my birth mistress. rescue do a phone number or a one of the show. and then for example, that patients at the what is the the,

the welcome back to going undergoing. i'm still here with the irish politician. it was uh, there's a member of your be in parliament, daily play. you mentioned at the end of the one that uh trump might have been behaving ignorantly in the oval office. i think i'll give lee was told the truth by to see gab lieutenant colonel. his new director of national intelligence. i mean, uh, do you think uh, do you think now your opinions understand that uh, the, the usa will leave nato as i am not to say for, i don't know what they understand. i think they understand nothing. it's all, most certainly if they're kind of dodging for a war with russia, it's beyond valley family lives besides a nuclear power on the same continent. it's just awfully bizarre. i honestly, i, having witnessed them over the past 5 years,

incorporating an integration european decides more and more as being synonymous with nasal. they're kind of broader, less now, which one but the helm, they don't really know what to do. and you could almost see a situation where the us, china and russia are sort of getting along. ok, well maybe not joined on the us board. you know, your being totally excluded and rolling down the wrong mode, looking for a solution. and there are also a bang go bankrupt, or we saw that, of course, you know, in, in other issues and garza and another mattress as well. but even on their own home turf, it's the same. you join attention to the use of shannon airport in island before for us foreign policy. i don't know whether it made you feel happy or, or the what you felt that the there. now the united states is telling britain, britain, which hosts thousands of us troops, all those us bases, all those weapons, just setting them do not share any intelligence with the lensky and ukraine. it's

a, it's so public. as it was, that the britain just has to obey what the united states does, but these are all so they really are occupying groups in your a totally, i mean a it, this is the info here and something your p and leadership on the one hand, their pricing talk and they're talking about minutes rising more and they are on assembly ukraine and all this. but at the same time, they are almost waiting for any of the fees of trump also. and it's the worst tactics. what they should do is go talk to russia themselves, develop an independent european foreign policy that benefits the people of europe and said, they've been subservient to us interests for so long now. it's almost that they can't break everybody's even when the us is in their face, making it obvious that they are subservient, it's i think these are astounding times they are so i

will have to, which is it is terrifying that these idiots are, was, constitutes the leadership of europe and in the are being parliament, you'd have met lots of european members of the or a pm parliament from very different electrodes as they prepare to massively caught social welfare programs in britain and island pads, pensions welfare, housing, all these different programs for this war on russia, just to give us a, give us a picture of the scale of inequality in the european union. i mean 195000000 is the figure from the european commission of 95000000 people tonight are frightened of not being able to eat. yep, there is a housing crisis right across europe. now, here in ireland, very people in relatively god's employments time to forward to either rent or buy a house. there is a public service is crisis really everywhere in europe,

not to mention the climate catastrophe and our responsibilities in that regard. and instead what we've seen is billions being taken out of budgets, which were designed to deal with the crime. a car has been used on defense, so it's a total for me. not only are we taking money away from work that could be drawn to deal with the environmental problems, they're going to defense, the carbon footprint of which is never tax calculations anywhere. so there's huge chrysler must have cost of living prices all across europe and for ordinary citizens to hear that they can find a 100000000000 on weapons of destruction, to kill people and to have their own children and be killed in the process. it's aust director scanner and yet the media in your up please. and repeat stop. i see if there is no and alternative is that one of the major is so important. the propaganda campaign. i mean,

if you know the news channel of choice of donald trump, fox news is banned from broad cost effective in say, britain, or t is obviously banned across your procedure, tn band, from broadcast across the say, britain. is that why the propaganda is so important? because there's 800000000 figure you mentioned to us live on the land in the context of this kind of level of poverty. you'd expect social unrest and civil disobedience, but there isn't any or. yeah, i think the easier i think mode to max one saturday said, you know, the media is the most powerful organization in the world that can make you believe that the innocent or guilty of the guilty innocence. and that's really about it is it's a constant dialogue of russia, phobia of war mongering of making people feel insecure and on stay on safe. it doesn't have any basis thing. rationality when you're exposed to the morning noon, the noise at it has some effect and there's a radar and the here that they claim to be the democracies,

the rich democracies. but there was an increasing authoritarian as of now across europe in terms of silence and dissenting views. that was very much to the for the war and ukraine where we know true to solve as the 1st casualty of war. but at least in the war and you interact, we know they lied from the weapons of mass destruction and all of that. but at least you cause argy went on to bore position on house dr. basics. in the warranty planning, you could not argue an anti war position. you were immediately labeled as a booth and publish a kremlin stooge of useful ideas or whatever on off of how to a certain effect. because i mean, how are we in a situation where donald trump's proposal for peace and ukraine has provoked this mass of rochester and all of militarized ation. doesn't make any sense. so, i mean, the things you know, they say it's excellent. everybody knew that you prayed was never going to join

nasal. that was never going to happen. he said, what everybody knew. i know, suspect ukraine comes when the war it smoke, but they haven't falls a road to the yard or they're useless or anything like that. just look at a map. ukraine is a fraction the size of the ocean, which is a joint, you know, nuclear power on their boards or do the songs. it just doesn't make sense. and i think stop the war in britain is actually for the war such as such as being the circle left in european countries. and we have moved much. but on censorship and propaganda, i understand its getting pretty bad in your as regards the continuing genocide in gauze, old, the at the trump stopped the aerial bombardment of gaza. trump is talking to hum us, we understand. and uh, how bad is it is were goods uh, what's happening in palestine because of your opinion. that is being sending the

arms. you mentioned l, but systems to carry out the genocide about times a union has been slowly complacence in the genocides since the day of the star if it's or so to underline green launch. the thing is rarely activities gave them a dime check and the governments of your, of the many of them have provided the state couldn't call for a series far they couldn't break the you israel sophie ation agreements. uh, absolutely. unbelievable. when we take back the patch here in the reagan soft arms to israel in earlier days with far less, i mean terrible morris on nothing and on all of the nothing on the scale of fault we've seen in guy so. so yeah, it's, it's, i find it very hard to, to deal with because these people talk about human rights everywhere. but they have insurance, but the devastation in guys a continues,

they couldn't care less of things any buzzing over there. and they take no credibility whatsoever. and now we see the on credible solidarity all across your in support of palestine and gosh, i've been suppressed by many your team members say to the scene, you mentioned a softer war coalition in britain. how being hauled in over initiative stuff they organize. we've seen people in germany. meetings been broken off to police, attending meetings in germany, the wearing of a can fly out and stuff like that could launch it in very big trouble in the states . so freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, all these things that they insist for older countries and give them those other countries not doing their even worse than that. there's a 2 factor coming in on, on palestinian solidarity. and even countries like garlands, which are law just being pro palo sign and obviously the people of art and very well charlie, gas was as a country that would occupied for so long at ourselves. but the irish governments

have only given rash rate. they to have sold you the in scopes to is for they to have ensure the selling of x ray the backbones, boyer central bank to all of the war efforts. they've been complicit as well as a double speak. we told to talk, but the directions are different and it's, yeah it's, it's pretty balanced. bush on the other side, the people of your how being tier everywhere. and i mean, everywhere like germany, we know how killing that, that the doctors are there, but i in the area, not a gas moment, a change of amazing of powers and so back to pursue or so clearly co publish showing up and looking for ways to get organized, but the mean husband for sorry, yeah, no fan of donald trump will j, the vines clearly who come from a sort of higher in, at extreme right in terms of economics. but when j. d von selected the europeans on freedom of speech, given the censorship,

i understand the so called the was it british broadcasting corporation babies in britain censoring a film on palestine the other day. i don't know how it is an island. does he say it's basically an island? did you sympathize with what j the vans was lecturing these europeans about as regards freedom was speed. was a 100 percent rise just because somebody you may disagree with pleasure to sometimes says paintings that are actors are correct or the, you know, fox, they're going to get to make a good america. great. that's the default. that's funny. yeah. i think this is where you saw it because i think the problem is, and then trump and zones identified very much with bar rides, who are incredibly racist and onto pallets showing that across your foot. the left being your of should be also taking up those causes because they're absolutely correct. i've mentioned it so many times in the parliament. the authoritarian is

coming from new york and discrimination against russian speaking citizens. and in the, in the ball to the states. never got to mention, but it is prevalent there are people in jail, in, in the baltic countries just for simply defending the right to speak, russian and so on. it's catastrophic. and yet they, they talk about civil liberties. and um, she went brilliance everywhere. they've abandoned international law and i think this is what we saw with guys that because you know myself, somebody, paula said a 1000 was, and jack's a dental, it was a, a warning. it was a harbinger of a new one, much more violent world square international law. was being publicly found far as we know, international law was never really for the big boys, but it didn't help keep things a little bit and checked. but by so flagrantly gone far in years in the face of an openly declared and poultry took tardies and devastation genocide. they narrowed their course to the mos on the there's no right to speak really about rights anywhere on the complete curtailment of civil liberties in europe. now is,

is actually empty acceleration. glad to thank you. that's it for the show will be back again exploring the collapse of you. you gave our monday with trump 2020 advisory board member and veteran us intelligence officer. the tenant got a letter the shot for until then, keep in touch my last social media if it's on the 10th of new country and i to at channel going undergoing tv on rumble. com to watch new and old episodes of going underground see monday the, the lot you lost but noticed that there was a mark the shift, the e b. i pretty much the committee for me. i show the list of the school school,

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the approximate al serra ill giovanni says those who protest against his story in syria are committing at the body great thing and are facing the consequences that says the mass executions take place in syria as specially targeting a minority religious groups in the west of the nation. those low. busy to the house of president, our sides are guns down in the worst biling since these governments was overthrown 3 months ago. and it's all about the money as the us pulls back on and say to ukraine, americans military industrial complex looks to be you as a prime customer to buy the weapons needed to keep the war machine going.