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ation tips and the complexities of politics and then what, what is played on the, on the world stage over the last 150 years has become more and more clear that you know, co existing in an environment where we share economic interest. and we do things that that favors the relationship between multiple countries. um, it has to be paramount with speed. the thing that we come straight most on, not the boogeyman theory that everyone in the closet is trying to figure out a way to take over the other nation. a r t dot com is where he can get fall. the details of all the stories will fall like this. alice, thanks for watching my not the
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i'm action or it has the and welcome to going underground rule. gusting all around the world from the heart of the middle east, where israel to the teeth by donald trump, has launched a renewed siege and its genocidal war and gaza. that when most of the world looks to the global economic superpower, china, which far at strips the usa and g d, p by p b. today's the 3rd plenary, the 14th communist national people's congress, setting a growth targets a 5 percent and increases in war spending by 7.2 percent. why the war spending arguably because of the old world? just days after a london, somebody's kicks off a decision by european that leads to a home for war on russia. and a donald trump spoke to both houses of congress, doubling down on his desire for peace. the you mentioned brussels, the extraordinary meeting was for you. it leads to arrange the impoverishment them you populations in the pursuit of war. that is washington and moscow organize restoration of diplomatic relations,
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direct flights and easing of sanctions. joining me now is the daily former bp who along side mike wallace with array of voice in the european parliament against nature, militarism. she joins me now from killed there in ireland. class. thanks so much for coming back on. how about this strange companies, newspaper, the financial times, breathlessly talking, as it has all week about the prospects for more and more spending in europe. and since you are an island or in brussels, where you're normally when you're the are being parliament hi, business style by just asking you. it says the island it's for administer said yesterday the militarily neutral, neutral nation will not be found. one thing over any future european peacekeeping mission in ukraine, even talks about a cabinet bill from a t shirt and a previous t sure, consisting in no way unto mine's islands, commitment to the un. what was going on in iceland? you joining up on the war in russia as yeah it's,
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it's is quite extraordinary. and of course these words are complete live. this is absolutely against the united nation. so i'm totally undermining our traditional position of neutrality. which unfairness to political establishment and our lives have long been wanting to undermine both. now in this new world there turbocharged and goes on, there is a proposal going before the irish parliament that the basis upon which we send troops abroad, which they call us a triple lock. traditionally, our troops would only go abroad with us in mind. jason with the backing of the government and said they are a parliament, but they want to remove the un mandate from that. so freeing them off to engage in european military emissions, which against the backdrop of seeds underline announcement um, the acceleration of military spending on time war drum binding at would see the potential for iris men and women in their defense force has been sent abroad to
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pursue really your opinions here late and so it's quite extraordinary, but they are seizing the present moment in order to do something, but they've long sought to do anyway. i mean, few things probably surprise you as regards foreign policy of these nato european nations. but what did you make of the british prime minister as it gets style ma, using a phrase that is now used across europe, was used on a thursday, b, e u and u. k. calling themselves the coalition of the willing, echoing the iraq war invasion which killed wounded or just based tens of millions of people in this region where i'm speaking to you from. well yeah, sundays. or was almost like paying homage to bush and blair, under healey. go more, which saw 1000000 iraqis killed and slaw search under the destruction of the country. it's sort of tells you where these people are going. and we also hear them are teasing the nation. yahoo slogan, piece, truth strength on them. you know,
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this is, this is the direction that these people are clearly going. i mean, the truth is, they've been on a military band for a long number of years now. and uh, they seem to be coming down dollars. it's interesting that the figures that they're talking about as but $800.00 b and on defense. they didn't even come as and said that your costs are getting used to trimming its welfare project because we obviously haven't got the money for paying for all of this. if we want to become a warfare stage, and of course nobody asked the people of your, of a bank that quite clearly people would much prefer to see that money spent on things that would actually make them say, like there room forward or has no food on the table to deal with the devastating cost of living crisis with these people costs in the 1st place with their ridiculous response to uninstalled summons in nasal as incursion on on most as far as are on tragic. h using ukraine in dash a. i mean,
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it is disaster all around and they're actually doing the absolute offices of what they should be doing and the consequences for your but this keeps going will be devastating. in my opinion, it already has been thought, rather than seizing on an opportunity for peace on the continent of europe. they seem to be desperately doing everything they can to make sure that there's some sort of a war going or even getting worse. i mean, sounding, i'll probably make it out myself. i mean, i knew that these were the most incompetent group of leaders ever at the home, or if you're a but they're large, the info here and to as well. because while they're waiting to get back to us at the same time they're paying for and donald trump space and saying, oh no, no, no, we want to work with you, we would do, we will, we will increase our military spread. we'll bring it up to 5 percent. we will go there. it's, it's disastrous for your and yet no votes. as you says in the european parliament itself, none in the national government parliaments of europe in union, none in,
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in britain just, you know, you spend years in the european parliament just pains as a picture of how they come to be. so out of touch. i mean, are these people ignorant of the, why the proxy war in russia started, or are they benefiting from this in some way? why? why would they endanger their populations in this way? your institutions helping completely capture by the military industrial complex. and this is a process going on over many years slots started. it's an economic union became much more involved in issues like foreign affairs and so on through the lisbon tracy, which was projected in orleans were the only country that actually has a bolts of its people. if we want to change your teen treaties on, we voted against our tracy and were made to go back, unfold for us and with in the us was the embryo. and you're like of the beginnings
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of your, your, of us an entity separate from it's 27 member states getting involved in foreign affairs and getting involved in defense mattress. they got a hi representative, which was joseph burrell, who, when we were in the part of them and tell us was pretty dreadful. but he's being replaced by tie, a callous which brings praise a dreadful onto a completely new scale of catastrophic war hawk. and, and kind of a high account issue, who said it's not that bad if i, russia is broken up the entire russian federation by this war through brain. the absolutely astounding, like golding, russia on its borders and then blaming real shred for any potential response. i mean it's, it's crazy stuff. we were at amazing in new york in parliament that were jeffrey sachs said this is not even baby geo politics. he said, this is not thinking of all. and i think he's right. they are not painting at all. they've been completed about 10 years ago. europe decided to look at its decides
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how would they make themselves safer? and to come up with the answer they advise, it's what they called bizarrely, a group of personalities and they weren't movie stars. they were actually in the majority, they were representative. so if you are p and defense industry and they came up with a solution which was do you know how to make yourselves safe? now the best way to do that, just by spending a lot more money on militarization on from da surprised surprise. that's what they gauge. and the very same companies who advise them, who says we're, we're not, we're your partners weren't, we're not industry but your partners. they were the beneficiaries of those contracts, and that's where you saw the 1st your being defense found, and this is all before the warm ukraine for, for the 1st time that we're giving a big in your office in a direct your being defense phones. they had a misnamed your theme piece facility, specifically allowing expenditure on arms and of course wants to warn your credit
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and start to this was turbocharged. so an original purchase off the books of a bad 6000000000. suddenly became 17 barian wits, 2 thirds of the going on military expenditure in ukraine to fuel the war and keep it going on. it's the problem from after program. i know we have figures of those 800000000000 been spoken advanced, but the interest in paying it, but it's also stuck on mackenzie's reports on your theme defense. last year, calling to the thought was the direction that your up was going to go on. anyway, so there's somebody behind the scenes or organizations behind the scenes pulling the strings on since the announcements. we've seen. chairs in b and b and r i o in tell us all the things you are being defense companies skyrockets. i mean, sadly, also uh, chairs um on the soft stage bar open systems because one of the biggest beneficiaries of your team defense of course is the genocide of stage of it. so on
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your, your claims that is doing this because they're worried about it. it's all russia has endangered a software in country. we stand for democracy, but they've enables the destruction of guy. so the invasion of lab and on they don't care about syria. so, you know, they don't care about these things and they certainly don't care about the people if you've credit and politically. somebody came from the top sure of your, of by the military, industrial copay. i want to return. i want to return to the genocide in a moment. but then are you saying it's venality that storm of macro sholtes so much kaya kyle, is these people will get jobs as consultants for the military companies? or is it that they can complete the confident they? they live in a volvo. the european union is an absolute although they're surrounded by a compliant media who tells them that they're doing the right thing and attempting to fax them into financial times. but in order to go to the same doctor, you know, for which democratic society,
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so i cure to achieve reforms that you want to achieve. and only ease is nothing else you have to create fear and maybe now is the right moment. and that's actually what they're doing and people across europe are very afraid. i mean, i've had groups in belgium, sort of parent groups off of school children sort of sending around messages in their box. our group say, you know guys, i think we need to stock up on survive or supplies here. the finish government are telling people to get solar powered radios and to give vent of, of, of, or breaking out. where is the effort to stop the war for diplomacy? that's what the united nations and international relations were supposed to be. the peaceful resolution of conflict instead and the warm ukraine there to absolute, everything to keep it going and hard. trump may have been very ignorant in his behavior to savanski in the why service the actual comp time to 40 the same was
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correct at this could have been over in 2 weeks. now, what's the latest you should have said to was? well that actually would it be over in 4 weeks. but the us and britain came in and told us to keep trident have for peter to say that, and that's the truth about. and there they want the war to keep going, regardless of the devastation consequences. but i take many citizens around your c dost, but it's almost like they're powerless to do anything of basic because the organizations and the priorities of the last or whatever, who used to speak edge on these issues, hoping causal in the take us ching away. some that could end up being incredibly dangerous for your up and of course us is to long since it's hobbled up potential rival and yeah, and it's, it's mad stuff. so i don't even, i think their brain tags. i think they are completely in a bubble at their media, tells them what they want to hear on their industrial obvious are leading them on,
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particularly in the defense sector for the it's the people of your who are going to lose sight of and, and so by the fed daily, i'll stop you that little from the irish politician for the member of the european parliament after this spring, the or the tabs or the establishment of the bosses resuming lisbon. in 1933, the position of the indigenous population in the portuguese colonies. deteriorated dramatically, especially in angola. dictator, antonio de, i live at salazar, encourage colonizing b and golden lands by europeans. and sought after turning the country into
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a portuguese province. where the and goldens would be 2nd class people. in 1961, there was an outbreak of violence on the part of the portuguese, in revenge for the plantation workers, dry portuguese aircraft bomb. the villages in northern angola and race rides took place in african parts of lawanda. the people of angelo rose in an armed rebellion . the rude jealousy of the colonialists knew no bounds. despite the un calls to stop the violence, the board to gaze only intensified their terror against the rebels. so forward to gaze actively used the political contradictions between various groups of rebels during the war colonial aircraft. regularly use, ne fall, and drop the fully ends on peaceful villages. the portuguese empire was severely exhausted by the struggle against the national liberation movements. a revolution in portugal brought down the plaza, is freezing,
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and put it in to the murder as war against the people of angola. on january 15, 1975, the l bore agreements were assigned in the country, gained independence after so many years of the brutal war, the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the irish politician. it was uh, there's a member of your be in parliament daily, a clear you mentioned at the end of the one that the trump might have been behaving ignorantly in the oval office. i think i'll give lee was told the truth by to see gab lieutenant colonel is new. the director of national intelligence. i mean, uh, do you think uh, do you think now your opinions understand that uh, the, the usa will leave nature as i am not to say for, i don't know what they understand. i think they understand nothing. it's all,
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most certainly it's their kind of dodging for a war with russia. it's beyond valley family lives besides a nuclear power on the same continent. it's just awfully bizarre. i honestly, i, having witnessed them over the past 5 years, incorporating an integration european defense more and more as being synonymous with nasal. they're kind of was or less now which room for the house and they don't really know what to do. and you could almost see a situation where the us, china and russia are sort of getting along. ok, well maybe not joined on the us board. you know, you are being told to be excluded and rolling down the wrong mode, looking for a solution. and they are also a sign go bankrupt and we saw that as, of course, you know, in, in other issues and garza and another mattress as well as ethan on their own home turf. it's the same. you joined attention to the use of shannon airport in island
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before for us foreign policy. i don't know whether it made you feel happy or, or the what you felt that the there. now the united states is telling britain, britain, which hosts thousands of us troops, all those us bases, all those weapons, just setting them do not share any intelligence with the lensky and ukraine. it's, it's so public, as it was, that the britain just has to obey what the united states does, but these are all, so they really are occupying troops in your a totally, i mean a it, this is the info here and something your p and leadership on the one hand their pricing talk and they're talking about militarize in more and they're going to assemble ukraine and all this. but at the same time, they are almost waiting for him out the fees of trump also. and it's the worst tactic. what they should do is go and talk to russia themselves, develop an independence, european foreign policy, the benefits the people of europe in said they've been subservient to us interests
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for so long. now. it's almost at the kind of break everybody's, even one of the us is in their face, making it obvious that they are subservient. it's. i think these are astounding times they are so as of torch it is, it is terrifying that these idiots are loss, constitutes the leadership of europe and in the are being parliament. you'd have met lots of european members of the or a p. m. parliament from very different electorates, as they prepare to massively cut the social welfare programs in britain and island pads, pensions welfare, housing, all these different programs for this war on russia. just to give us a, give us a picture of the scale of inequality in the european union. i mean, 195000000 is the figure from the european commission of 95000000 people tonight are
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frightened of not being able to read as yep. there is a housing crisis right across europe. now, here in ireland, very people in relatively re god's employment time to forward to either rent or buy a house. there is a public services crisis really everywhere in europe, not to mention the climate catastrophe and our responsibilities in that regard. and instead, what we've seen is billions being taken out of budgets, which were designed to deal with the crime, a crisis being used on defense. so it's a total for me. not only are we taking money away from work that could be drawn to deal with the environmental problems, they're going to defense, the carbon footprint of which is never a task calculated anywhere. so there's huge, chrysler must have cost of living prices all across europe. and for ordinary citizens to hear that they can find a 100000000000 on weapons of destruction,
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to kill people, and to have their own children and be killed in the process. it's off the director scanner, and yet the media in your up bleeds and repeat stop. i see if there is no and alternative is that one of them may have your so important the propaganda campaign . that means if you know the news channel of choice of donald trump, fox news is banned from broad cost effective in say, britain, or t is obviously banned across your procedure, tn band, from broadcast across the say, britain. is that why the propaganda is so important? because there's 800000000 figure you mentioned to us live on the land in the context of this kind of level of poverty. you'd expect social unrest and civil disobedience, but there isn't any a. yeah, i think the easier i think mode to max one saturday said, you know, the media is the most powerful organization in the world that can make you believe that the innocent or guilty of the guilty innocence. and that's really what it is. it's a constant dialogue brush of phobia of war mongering,
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of making people feel insecure and on stay on safe. it doesn't have any basis thing rationality, when you're exposed to the morning noon, the noise at it has some effect and there's a radar and the here that they claim to be the democracies, the rich democracies. but there was an increasing authoritarian as of now across europe in terms of silence and dissenting views. that was very much to the for the war and ukraine where we know true to solve as the 1st casualty of war. but at least in the war and you're interact, we know they live on the weapons of mass destruction and all of that. but at least you cause i urge you went on to bore positions and half dr. basics. in the warranty planning, you could not argue an anti war position. you were immediately labeled as a booth and pop pleasure kremlin stooge. a useful ages or whatever of off was how to a certain effect because, i mean, how are we in
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a situation where donald trump's proposal for peace and ukraine has provoked this mass of roger single of militarized ation. doesn't make any sense. i mean, the things you know, they say that x one, everybody knew that ukraine was never going to join nasal. that was never going to happen. he said, when everybody knew a no suspect ukraine comes when the war, it's not that they haven't falls a role weekly yard or they're useless or anything like that. just look them up. ukraine is a fraction the size of the ocean, which is a joint, you know, nuclear power on their boards are doing the psalms. it just doesn't make sense. and i think stop the war in britain is actually for the war such as such as being the circle left in european countries. and we have moved much. but on censorship and propaganda, i understand its getting pretty bad in your as regards the continuing genocide in
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gauze, old, the at the trump stopped the aerial bombardment of gauze. trump is talking to hum us, we understand. and uh, how bad is it as regards uh, what's happening in palestine because of your opinion that is being sending the, as you mentioned, l bit systems to carry out the genocide about times the union has been slowly complacence in the genocide since the day had started or so the underlying green logs would be as rarely activities gave them a dime check and the governments of europe for many of them have provided the state couldn't call for a series far they couldn't break the you israel. so see ation agreements. uh, absolutely unbelievable. home between factor patch here and reagan stopped arms to israel in earlier days with far less, i mean terrible doors on life in and on all of the know thing on the scale of fault
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. we've seen in guy so, so yeah it's, it's, i find it very hard to, to deal with because these people talk about human rights everywhere. but they've insureds that the devastation in guys a continues, they couldn't care less and things anybody over there and they take no credibility whatsoever. and now we see the on credible solidarity all across your in support of palestine. and gosh, i've been suppressed by many your team members say to the scene, you mentioned they sought, the war coalition and breaking how being hauled in over initiative stuff they organized. we've seen people in germany. meetings been broken off, the police attending meetings in germany to wearing africa fire and stuff like that could launch it in very big trouble in the states. so freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, all these things that they insist for older countries and give heads up as other
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countries not doing their even worse than that. there's a 2 factor coming in on, on palestinian solidarity. and even countries like garlands which are law just being pro pablo sign. and obviously the people of are in very well, charlie, gas or as a country that would occupied for so long at ourselves. but the irish governments have only given rash rate. they to have sold judy in scopes to is for they to pub ensure the selling of x ray, the back bombs, boyer central bank to our and the war effort. they've been complicit as well as a double speak. we told to talk, but the directions are different and it's, yeah it's, it's pretty balanced. bush on the other side, the people of your being tier everywhere. and i mean, everywhere like germany, we know how killing that the, the doctors are there, but i in the area, not a gas month, a change of amazing of powers, and so back to pursue or so clearly, coal power is showing up and looking for ways to get organized,
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but the mean husband for sorry. yeah, no fan of donald trump will j, the vines clearly who come from a sort of higher in, at extreme right in terms of economics. but when j. d von selected the europeans on freedom of speech, given the censorship, i understand the so called the was it british broadcasting corporation babies in britain censoring a film on palestine the other day. i don't know how it is an island. does he say it's basically an island? did you sympathize with what j. d vans was lecturing these europeans about as regards freedom of speech? he was a 100 percent drives, just because somebody you may disagree with pleasure to sometimes says things that are actors are correct or the, you know, fox, they're going to get to make a good america. great at the for the, i think this is really solve because i think the problem is, and then trump and zones identified very much with bar rides,
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who are incredibly racist and onto pallets showing that across europe to the left in europe should be also taking up those causes because they're absolutely correct . i mentioned it so many times in the parliament, the authoritarianism, coming from new york and discrimination against russian speaking citizens. and in the, in the ball to the states. never got some mansions, but it is prevalent. there are people in jail, in, in the baltic countries just for simply defending the right to speak at motion and so on. it's catastrophic. and yet they, they talk about civil liberties and human rights, every bar. they've abandoned international law. and i think this is what we saw with guys that because you know myself, somebody, paula said a 1000 was, and jack's a dental, it was a, a warning, it was a harbinger of a, a new one, much more violent world square. international law was being publicly found far as we know, international law was never really for the people. i just put it to try to keep
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things a little bit and check. but by so flagrantly gone far and you're in the face of an openly declared publicly tardies and devastation genocide. they narrowed their course to the mos on the they've no right to speak really about rights anywhere on the complete curtailment of civil liberties in europe. now is, is absolutely key, etc. ration. glad to thank you. that's it for the show will be back again exploring the collapse of you. you gave our monday with trump 2020 advisory board member and veteran us intelligence officer, detective gun allegedly shot for until then even touch my last social media of it to a sense of new country and i to at channel going undergoing tv on rumble columns, watch new and old episodes of going underground see monday, the
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