the, the the i'm action or a tendency and welcome to going undergrads. rule gusting all around the world from the hearts of the middle east, where israel to the teeth by donald trump has launched a renewed siege and its genocidal war and gaza. that when most of the world looks to the global economic superpower, china, which far at strips the usa and g d, p by p b. today's the 3rd plenary, the 14th communist national people's congress,

setting a growth target, a 5 percent, and increases in war spending by 7.2 percent. why the war spending arguably because of the old world? just days after a london, somebody's kicks off a decision by european that leads to a home for war on russia. and a donald trump spoke to both houses of congress, doubling down on his desire for peace. the you mentioned brussels, the extraordinary meeting was what you leads to arrange, the impoverishment of you populations in the pursuit of war that as washington and moscow organize restoration of diplomatic relations, direct flights and easing of sanctions. joining me now is clear daily for many people who along side mike wallace with array of voice in the army and parliament against nature of militarism. she joins me now from killed there in ireland class. thank so much for coming back on. how about these strange companies, newspaper, the financial times, breathlessly talking as it has all week about the prospect for more,

more spending in europe. and since you are in island or in brussels, where you're normally when you're the european parliament, i bet a style by just asking you. it says the island, it's foreign minister said yesterday, the militarily neutral, neutral nation will not be found. one thing over any future european peacekeeping mission in ukraine even talks about the cabinet bill from the t shirts and previous to shaw, consisting in no way undermines islands commitment to the un. what's going on in iceland? joining up on the war and russia? yeah it's, it's, it is quite extraordinary and of course these words are a complete lie. this is absolutely against the united nations. i'm totally undermining our traditional position of neutrality. which unfairness the police going to savage mentioned orland have long been wanting to undermine both. now in this new world, there, turbo charging is on. there is

a proposal going before the irish parliament. that's the basis upon which we send troops abroad, which they call us a triple lock. traditionally, our troops would only go abroad with the un mom's ation with the backing of the government, and that they are as parliament what they want to remove the un mandate from that. so bring them off to engage in european military emissions, which against the backdrop. i'll see the underlying announcement um the acceleration of military spending on time war drum binding at would see the potential for iris men and women in their defense force has been sent abroad to pursue really your team and peer late. and so it's quite extraordinary, but they are seizing the present moment in order to do something that they've long sought to do. anyway. i mean, few things probably surprise you as regards foreign policy of these nato european nations. but what did you make of the british prime minister as it gets tama,

using a phrase that is now used across europe, was used on a thursday, b, e u and u. k. calling themselves the coalition of the willing, echoing the iraq war invasion which killed wounded or displaced tens of millions of people in this region where i'm speaking to you from. well yeah, sundays. or was almost like paying homage to bush and blair, under healey. go more, which saw one meeting in the rockies kills and slow sort of destruction of the country. it's sort of tells you where these people are going and we also hear them repeating the nation. yahoo slogan, peace through strength on them. you know, this is, this is the direction that these people are clearly going. i mean, the truth is, they've been on a military band for a long number of years now. and uh, they seem to be joining down dollars. it's interesting that the figures that they're talking about as but $800.00 b and on defense, they can even come as and said that you're

a pass to get used to trimming. it's welfare biologist because they obviously haven't got the money for paying for all of these. if we want to become a warfare stage, and of course nobody asked the people, if you're a bank that quite clearly people would much prefer to see that money spent on things that would actually make them say like, they're run forward or has no food on the table to deal with the devastating cost of living crisis that these people cost and the 1st place with their ridiculous response to uninstall shipments and nasal as incursion on on most as far as are on project take using ukraine in dash a. i mean, it is disaster all around and they're actually doing the absolute offices of what they should be doing and the consequences for your but this keeps going will be devastating. in my opinion, it already has been thought rather than seizing on an opportunity for peace on the continent of europe. they seem to be desperately doing everything they can to make sure that there's some sort of a war going or even guessing worse. i mean,

sounding, i'll make it out myself. i mean, i knew that these were the most incompetent group of leaders ever at the home, or if you're a but they're large, the info here and as well because while they're waiting to get back to us at the same time they are quinn for and of donald trump space and saying, oh no, no, no, we want to work with you, we would do, we will, we will increase our military expand. we bring it up to 5 percent. we will go there . it's, it's disastrous for your and you had no votes, as you said in the european parliament itself, none in the national government parliaments of europe in union, none in, in britain just, you know, you spent years in the european parliament just pains as a picture of how they come to be so out of touch. i mean, are these people ignorant of the why the proxy war in russia started? or are they benefiting from this in some way? why? why would they endanger their populations in this way?

your institutions helping completely capture for the military industrial complex and this is a process going on over many years. spots started to us. an economic union became much more involved in issues like foreign affairs and so on through the lisbon tracy, which was projected in orleans were the only country that actually has a phone. so if it's people, if we want to change your opinion, tracy sat and we voted against dr. easy and were made to go back on hold for us. and with in the us was the embryo again, like of the beginnings of your, your as an entity separate from its 27 member, say it's getting involved in foreign affairs and getting involved in defense voucher as they go. the high representative, which was joseph burrell, who, when we were in the parliament pulse was pretty dreadful. but he's being replaced by tie, a callous which brings pricing dreadful onto a completely new scale of catastrophic war hawk. am and kind of

a high account as who, who said it's not that bad. if i russia is broken up the entire russian federation by this war through brain. the absolutely astounding, like golding, russia on its borders. i'm then blaming real short for any potential response. i mean it's, it's crazy stuff. we were at amazing in new york in parliament square. jeffery sack said this is not even baby geo politics. he said this is not taking us off and i think he's right. they are not pinking at all. they've been completed about 10 years ago. europe decided to look at it's decides how would they make themselves safer? and to come up with the answer they invited for the calls bizarrely, a group of personalities. and they weren't movie star as they were actually in the majority. they were representative. so if you are peons defense industry and they came up with a solution which was do you know how to make yourselves safe?

now, the best way to do that is by spending a lot more money on militarize ation and from that's the price of price. that's what they gauge. and the very same companies who advise them, who says we're, we're not, we're your partners, we're, we're not industry where your partner's, they were the beneficiaries of those contracts. and that's where you saw the 1st european defense fund. and this is all before the warm ukraine, or for the 1st time that we're giving a big in your office in a direct your being defense phones. they had a misnamed your being. he's facilitate specifically allowing expenditure on arms and of course wants to warn your credit and starts with baseless turbocharged. so an original purchase off the books of a bad 6000000000. suddenly became 17 barian wits, 2 thirds of the going on military expenditure in ukraine to fuel the war and keep it going on. it's the problem from after program. i know we have figures of those 800000000000 been spoken and boost,

but the interest in paying it based off of your stuff. and mackenzie's reports on european defense last year pen palling to the thought was the direction that europe was going to go on. anyway, so there's somebody behind the scenes or organizations behind the scenes pulling the strings on since the announcements. we've seen chairs in b and b and r i o in tell us all the things you are being defense companies, sky, your office, i mean is sadly also a chairs um on the stock exchange bar l. but systems because one of the biggest beneficiaries of your being defense, of course is the genocide of stage of it. so i'm, yeah, you're a claims that is doing this because they're worried about it's all russia has endangered a suffering country. we stand for democracy, but they've enabled the destruction of guy. so the invasion of lebanon, they don't care about syria, so, you know, they don't care about these things, and they certainly don't care the people, if you've crying. but it literally came from the top. sure. of europe by the

military industrial co. okay. i wonder richard i want to return to the genocide in a moment. but then are you saying it's banality? that storm of macro sholtes so much kaya kyle is these people will get jobs as consultants from the military companies? or is it that they can you please confident they, they live in a volvo new york in union is an absolute although there's some around it by a compliant media who tells them that they're doing the right thing and attempting to fax them into the financial times. part in order to go saying that to, you know, for which democratic society, so like your to achieve reforms that you want to retrieve. and only ease is nothing, no, if you have to create fear on maybe now is the right moment. and that's actually what they're doing and people across europe are very afraid. i mean, i've had groups in belgium, sort of parent groups off of school children sort of sending around messages. and

there are lots of groups saying, you know, guys, i think we need to stock up on survive or supplies here to finish, go from and to are telling people to get solar powered radio as indigo event of, of, of, or breaking out. where is the effort to stop the war for diplomacy? that's what the united nations and international relations were supposed to be. the peaceful resolution of conflict instead and the warm ukraine there to absolute, everything to keep it going and hard. trump may have been very ignorant in these behavior to so landscape, in the why service the actual comp time to 40 the same was correct at this could have been over in 2 weeks. now. what's the last you should have said to him was, well, that actually would it be over in 4 weeks. but the us and britain came in and told us to keep trident, have for peter to say that, and that's the truth. and now they want the war to keep going, regardless of the devastating consequences. but i take many citizens around your c

das, but it's almost like they're powerless to do anything of basic because the organizations and the priorities of the last or whatever, who used to speak ups on these issues, hoping causal in the take you less ching away some that could end up being incredibly dangerous for your up and of course us is to long since it's hobbled up potential rifle and yeah, and it's, it's modest of so i don't even, i think their brain tags. i think they are completely in a bubble at their media, tells them what they've onto here on their industrial obvious are leading them on, particularly in the defense sector. whether it's the people of your who are going to lose, i was under the say about the daily i'll stop you that little from the irish politician for the member of the european parliament after this break the

of the same rom, just don't have to shape out the application and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will support, we choose to look for common ground, the

the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the irish politician. it was dismembered. you are being parliament daily play. you mentioned at the end of the one that the trump might have been behaving ignorantly in the oval office. i think i'll gladly was told the truth by to see gab lieutenant colonel is new director of natural intelligence. i mean, uh, do you think uh, do you think now your opinions understand that uh, the, the usa will leave nato are, i mean, not to say for, i don't know what they understand. i think they understand nothing. it's almost as if they are kind of guiding for a war with russia. it's beyond the lead from where he lives, besides a nuclear power on the same continent. it's just also really bizarre. i honestly,

having witnessed them over the past 5 years, incorporating an integration european defense more and more as being synonymous with nasal. they're kind of broader, less now, which one but the helm, they don't really know what to do. and you could almost see a situation where the us, china and russia are sort of getting along. ok, well maybe not joined on the us board. you know, you are being told to be excluded and rolling down the wrong mode, looking for a solution. and they are also late cycle bankrupt, or we saw that as, of course, you know, in, in other issues and garza and another mattress as well. because even on their own home turf, it's the same. you join attention to the use of shannon airport in island before for us foreign policy. i don't know whether it made you feel happy or, or the what you felt that the there. now the united states is telling britain, britain, which hosts thousands of us troops, all those us bases, all those weapons, just setting them do not share any intelligence with the lensky and ukraine. it's,

it's so public, as it was, that the britain just has to obey what the united states does, but these are all, so they really are occupying groups in your a totally, i mean a, if this is the info here and something your a p and leadership on the wall, not have their pricing talk and they're talking about minutes rising more and they're going to assembly ukraine and all this. but at the same time, they are almost waiting for him out the face of trump also. and it's the worst talk to corporate should do, is go and talk to russia themselves, develop an independence, european foreign policy, the benefits the people of europe in said they've been subservient to us interests for so long. now. it's almost at the can't break everybody's even when the us is in their face, making it obvious that they are subservient, it's i think these are astounding times they are so

as of torch is it is terrifying that these idiots are boss constitutes the leadership of europe and in the are being parliament, you'd have met lots of european members of the or a pm parliament from very different electorates as they prepare to massively cut social welfare programs in britain and island pads, pensions welfare, housing, all these different programs for this war on russia just to give us a, give us a picture of the scale of inequality in the european union. i mean 195000000 is the figure from the european commission of 95000000 people tonight are frightened of not being able to eat. yeah, there is a housing crisis right across europe. now, here in ireland, very people in relatively god's employments time to forward to either rent or buy

a house. there is a public services crisis really everywhere in europe, not to mention the climate catastrophe and our responsibilities in that regard. and instead, what we've seen is billions being taken out of budgets, which were designed to deal with the crime records has been used on defense. so it's a total for me, not only are we taking money away from work that could be drawn to deal with the environmental problems, they're going to defense, the carbon footprint of which is never a task calculated anywhere. so there's huge cries of the most of the cost of living prices all across europe and for ordinary citizens to hear that they can find a 100000000000 on weapons of destruction, to kill people, and to have their own children be killed in the process. it's off the richter scale, and yet the media in your bleeds and repeat stop. i see if there is no and alternative is that one of the major is so important. the propaganda campaign. i

mean, if you know the news channel of choice of donald trump, fox news is banned from broad cost effective and say, britain, o t is obviously banned across europe. c, dtn band from broadcast across the say, britain, is that why the propaganda is so important? because there's 800000000 figure you mentioned to us live on the land in the context of this kind of level of poverty. you'd expect social unrest and civil disobedience, but there isn't any or. yeah, i think the easier i think mode to max one saturday said, you know, the media is the most powerful organization in the world that can make you believe that the innocent or guilty of the guilty innocence. and that's really what it is. it's a constant dialogue of russia phobia of war mongering of making people feel insecure and on stay on safe. it doesn't have any basis thing rationality when you're exposed to the morning noon. nice, but it has some effect and there's

a radar in here that they claim to be the democracies, the rich democracies. but there was an increasing authoritarian as of now across europe in terms of silence and dissenting views. that was very much to the for the war and ukraine where we know true to solve as the 1st casualty of war, but at least in the war and you interact, we know they live on the weapons of mass destruction and all of that. but at least you cause already went on to more position and half dr. basics in the morning ukraine. you could not argue an anti war position. you were immediately labeled as a booth and publish a kremlin studio, useful atheist, or whatever i off was how to a certain effect. because i mean, how are we in a situation where donald trump's proposal for peace and ukraine has provoked this mass of roger single of militarize ation. that doesn't make any sense. so, i mean, the things, you know, they said that excellent, everybody knew that you prayed,

was never going to join nasal. that was never going to happen. he said what everybody knew, i know, suspect ukraine comes when the war it smoke, but they haven't sold a road to the yard or they're useless or anything like that. just look them up. ukraine is a fraction of the size of the ocean, which is a joint, you know, nuclear power on their boards or do the songs. it just doesn't make sense. and i think stop the war in britain is actually for the war such as such as being the circle left in european countries. and we have moved much. but on the sense of shipping propaganda, i understand its getting pretty bad in your as regards the continuing genocide in gauze, old, the at the trump stopped me. aerial bombardment of gaza. trump is talking to hum us, we understand. and uh, how bad is it? as regards uh, what's happening in palestine because of the are you in union that is being sending

the arms. you mentioned no bit systems to carry out the genocide of our times. as do europe in union has been slowly complacent in the genocide since the day and starts with our sort of underlying green lodge the as rarely activities gave them a dime. check em the cool minutes of your and many of them have provided the state coding for calls i see as far as the coding for a cd. you israel sophie ation agreements. uh, absolutely. unbelievable. home we take back the patch here in the reagan soft arms to israel in earlier days with far less, i mean terrible doors on reading and on all of the book noting on the scale of fault. we've seen in guy so. so, um, yeah, it's, it's, i find it very hard to, to deal with because these people talk about human rights everywhere. but they've insureds that the devastation in dallas a continuous,

they couldn't care less offense. anybody over there and they take no credibility whatsoever. and now we see the incredible solidarity all across your in support of palestine. and gosh, i've been suppressed by many your team members. so it seemed to mention they sought the war coalition in britain have been halting over initiatives that they organize . we've seen people in germany, meetings been broken off to police, attending meetings in germany, the wearing of a can fly out and stuff like that could launch it in very big trouble in the states of freedom of expression. freedom of assembly, all these things that they insist for other countries and give them a those other countries not doing their even worse from doctor said to factor coming in on on palestinian solidarity and even countries like heartland which are largest lesbian protocol assigned. and obviously the people of ireland very well charlie guessers as a country that would occupied for so long at ourselves. but the irish governments

have only given rash rate they to have sold judy is god's to is for they to have ensure the selling of its way the backbones by our central bank to our end, the war effort. they've been complex such as well. it's a double speak. we talked to talk, but their actions are different and it's, yeah it's, it's pretty balanced. bush on the other side, the people of your how being tier every for on our main everywhere like germany. we know how killing that the factors are there, but i in earlier last it last month i tend of amazing of tires and so back to pursue or so clearly, coal power sewing on and looking for ways to get organized. but the mean husband for so you're no fan of donald trump or j. the vines clearly who come from us sort of how you check in at extreme right in terms of economics. but when j. d von selected the europeans on freedom of speech, given the censorship,

i understand the so called the was it british broadcasting corporation really easy in britain, censoring a film on palestine the other day? i don't know how it is an island, does he say it's measuring island? did you sympathize with what j. d vans was lecturing these europeans about as regards freedom of speech, he was a 100 percent. right. was just because somebody you may disagree with political sometimes says paints that are actors are correct or but you know, that's the bank of america. great. that's the default. that's funny. yeah. i think this is really solid because i think the problem is, and then trump and zones identified very much with the far right. you are incredibly racist and onto pallets showing that across europe to the left in europe should be also taking up those courses because they're absolutely correct. i've mentioned that so many times in the parliament,

the authoritarian is coming from new york and discrimination against russian speaking citizens and in, in the ball dictates. never got to mention, but it is prevalent. there are people in jail, in, in the baltic countries just for simply defending the right to speak at motion and so on. it's catastrophic. and yet they, they talk about civil liberties and human rights. everybody. they've abandoned international law. and i think this is what we saw with guys because you know myself and they, paula said a 1000, it wasn't accidental. it was a warning. it was a harbinger of a new one, much more violent world square. international law was being public found far as we know, international law was never really for the big boys, but the do to help keep things a little bit and check, but by so flagrantly gone far and you're in the face of an openly declared poultry to tarry james, devastation, genocide, they narrowed their course to the mouse on the they've no right to speak really about rights anywhere on the complete curtailment of civil liberties in europe now

is, is actually empty, accelerating plant. danny, thank you. that's it for the show will be back again exploring the collapse of you . you gave our monday with trump 2020 the advisory board member and veteran us intelligence officer. the tenant gun allegedly shot for until then, keep in touch my last social media. if it's on sense of new country and channel going on directv on, rumbled i'll call them to watch new and old episodes of going underground see monday, the despite everything re breeze go to the front lines with that eagerly awaited they pray in the trenches and bunkers and hospitals didn't destroy churches, they price a piece. so i think out of work through nascar,

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reports. claim mass education is that taking place in syria palm, the thing of minority or religious group, or the mazda superior from a mazda 3 and syria runs this flow for a genocide. these are happening in celia is in color, but that is the most side. on the religious basis do whatever you want, but the way i think getting people theory as a new leader says those for testing again as of quality, committing the close grades and i will face the kinds of points on the maci and paris 1000 speak to these 3, so the friends comfortable for testing against president my call and is add to ross and rectory where they had to be.