the the, the i'm action or it has the and welcome to going underground rule gusting all around the world from the heart of the middle east. where israel to the teeth by donald trump has launched a renewed siege and its genocidal war and gaza. that when most of the world looks to the global economic superpower, china, which far at strips the usa and g d, p by p b. today's the 3rd plenary, the 14th communist national people's congress, setting a growth target, a 5 percent, and increases in war spending by 7.2 percent. why the war spending arguably because of the old world? just days after a london summits kicked off a decision by european that leads to a home for war on russia. and

a donald trump spoke to both houses of congress, doubling down on his desire for peace. the you mentioned brussels, the extraordinary meeting was what you leads to arrange, the impoverishment of you populations in the pursuit of war. that is washington and moscow organize restoration of diplomatic relations. direct flights and easing of sanctions. joining me now is the daily former in e p u along side mike wallace, with array of voice in the european parliament against nature, militarism. she joins me now from killed there in island class. thanks so much for coming back on. how about this strange companies, newspaper, the financial times, breathlessly talking, as it has all week about the prospects for more and more spending in europe. and since you are an island or in brussels, where you're normally when you're the european parliament, i bet a style by just asking you. it says the island, it's foreign minister said yesterday, the militarily neutral, neutral ation will not be found. one thing over any future european peacekeeping

mission in ukraine, even talks about a cabinet bill from your t shirt and previous t sure, consisting in no way unto mine's islands, commitment to the un. what's going on in iceland and joining up on the war in russia? yeah it's, it's, it is quite extraordinary and of course these words are a complete lie. this is absolutely against the noise of nations. i'm totally undermining our traditional position of neutrality. which unfairness the police going to savage mentioned orland have long been wanting to undermine both. now in this new world, there turbo, charging us under a some proposal going before the irish parliament. that's the basis upon which we send troops abroad, which they call us a triple lock. traditionally, our troops would only go abroad with un mom's ation with the backing of the government and saying that they are as power elements. but they want to remove the

un mandate from that. so bring them off to engage in european military emissions, which against the backdrop of steve underlying announcements on the acceleration of military spending. and i'm war drum binding at would see the potential for iris men and women in their defense force has been sent abroad to pursue really your team interior lane. so it's quite extraordinary, but they are seizing the present moment in order to do something that they've long sought to do. anyway. give me a few things, probably surprise you as regards foreign policy of these nato european nations. but what did you make of the british prime minister as it gets dom and using a phrase that is now used across europe was used on a thursday, b, e u and u. k. calling themselves the coalition of the willing, echoing the iraq war invasion which killed wounded or displaced tens of millions of people in this region where i'm speaking to you from. well yeah,

sundays. or was almost like paying homage to bush and blair, under healey. go more, which saw one, making the rockies, and kills and slow sort of destruction of the country. it's sort of tells you where these people are going and we also hear them repeating the nation. yahoo slogan, teach true strength on them. you know, this is, this is the direction that these people are clearly going. i mean, the truth is, they've been on a military bench for a long number of years now. and uh, they seem to be coming down dollars. it's interesting that the figures that they're talking about is about 800000000000 on defense. they can even come as and said that you're a cost to get used to trimming it's welfare project because they obviously haven't got the money for paying for all of this. if we want to become a warfare stage, and of course nobody asked the people of your a bank that quite clearly people would much prefer to see that money spent on things that would actually make them say, like,

they're run forward or has no food on the table to deal with the devastating cost of living crisis with these people costs in the 1st place with their ridiculous response to uninstalled students and nasal as incursion on on motion, as far as are on tragic using ukraine in das a. i mean it is disaster. all around and they're actually doing the absolute opposite of what they should be doing and the consequences for your but this keeps going will be devastating. in my opinion. it already has been thoughts rather than seizing on an opportunity for peace on the con to them to view or they seem to be desperately doing everything they can to make sure that there's some sort of a war going or even guessing worse. i mean, sounding, i'll make it out myself. i mean, i knew that these were the most incompetent going of leaders ever at the home, or if you're a, but they're large, the info here and as well because while they're waiting to get back to us at the

same time they are quinn for. and donald trump space and say no, no, no, no, we want to work with you, we would do, we will, we will increase our military expand. we're bringing up to 5 percent. we will go there. it's, it's disastrous for your and yet no votes. as you says in the european parliament itself, none in the national government, all limits of europe in union, none in, in britain just, you know, you spent years in the european parliament just pains as a picture of how they come to be. so out of touch. i mean, are these people ignorant of the, why the proxy war in russia started, or are they benefiting from this in some way? why? why would they endanger their populations in this way? your institutions helping completely capture by the military industrial complex. and this is a process going on over many years, spot started. it's an economic union became much more involved in issues like

foreign affairs and so on through the lisbon tracy, which was projected in orleans were the only country that actually has a photos of its people. if we want to change your opinion, tracy sat and we voted against dr. easy and were made to go back, unfold for us and with in the us was the embryo again, like of the beginnings of your, your a, as an entity, separate from it's 27 member. say it's getting involved in foreign affairs and getting involved in defense voucher as they go to high representatives, which was joseph burrell, who, when we were in the parliament, torres was pretty dreadful. but he's being replaced by ty, a callous which brings crazy dreadful onto a completely new scale of catastrophic war hawk am and kind of a high account. as to who said, it's not that bad. if i, russia is broken up the entire russian federation by this war through brain of some kind of standing like golding russia on its borders on then blaming real short for

any potential response. i mean it's, it's crazy stuff. whereas amazing into your being parliament, a square jeffrey sachs, said this is not even baby geo politics. he said, this is not thinking of all. and i think he's right. they are not painting at all. they've been completed. about 10 years ago, europe decided to look at its decides how would they make themselves safer? and to come up with the answer they invited what they called bizarrely, a group of personalities. and they weren't movie star as they were actually in the majority. they were representative, so if you are peons defense industry and they came up with a solution which was do you know how to make yourselves safe? now the best way to do that is by spending a lot more money on militarize ation. on from da surprised surprise, that's what they gauge. and the very same companies who advise them, who says we're, we're not, we're your partners, we're, we're not industry where your partner's,

they were the beneficiaries of those contracts. and that's where you saw the 1st european defense fund, and this is all before the warm ukraine, or for the 1st time that we're giving a big in your office in a direct your being defense phones. they had to misnamed your being. he's facilitate specifically allowing expenditure on arms and of course wants to warn your credit and starts with baseless turbocharged. so an original purchase off the books of a bad 6000000000. suddenly became 17 barian wits, 2 thirds of the going on military expenditure in ukraine to fuel the war and keep it going on. it's been prom from after program. i know we have figured, suppose 800000000000 been spoken about. but the interest in paying about bosses and stuff, and mackenzie's reports on european defense last year pen palling to the thought was the direction that europe was going to go on anyway. so there's somebody behind the scenes or organizations behind the scenes pulling the strings on since the

announcements. we've seen, chairs in b and b and r i o in. tell us all the things you are being defense companies, sky, your office, i mean and sadly, also uh, chairs um on the shelf exchange bar l. but systems because one of the biggest beneficiaries of your team defense of course is the genocide of stage of it. so i'm, yeah, you're a claims that is doing this because they're worried about, it's all, russia hasn't aged a software in country we've done for democracy, but they've enables the destruction of guys to the invasion of lebanon. they don't care about syria, so you know, they don't care about these things and they certainly don't care the people of you credit and, but it literally came from the top sure of europe by the military industrial co. okay. i want to return. i want to return to the genocide in a moment. but then are you saying it's banality? that storm of macro sholtes so much kaya kyle is these people will get jobs as

consultants for the military companies? or is it that they can complete the confident they they live in a volvo, new york in union is an absolute although there's some around it by a compliant media who tells them that they're doing the right thing. and it's not an effect them in the financial times, but in order to go with saying that to, you know, for which democratic society, so like your to achieve reforms that you want to achieve. and only ease is notion of you have to create fear on may. the now is the right moment, and that's actually what they're doing and people across europe are very afraid. i mean, i've had groups in belgian sort of parent groups off of school children sort of sending around messages and there are lots of groups saying, you know, guys, i think we need to stock up on survive or supplies here. the finish government are telling people to get solar powered radios and to get vent of of, of, or breaking out. where is the effort to stop the war for diplomacy?

that's what the united nations and international relations were supposed to be. the peaceful resolution of conflict instead and the warm ukraine there to absolute everything to keep it going and hard. trump may have been very ignorant and his behavior too. so landscape in the white house, the actual comp time to 40 the same was correct at this could have been over in 2 weeks. now. what's the last he should have said to him was, well, that actually would it be over in 4 weeks. but the us and britain came in and told us to keep fighting. have for peter to say that on the bus, the terms of up and now they want the war to keep going regardless of the devastating consequences. but i take many citizens around your c das, but it's almost like they're powerless to do anything of basic because the organizations and the priorities of the last or whatever, who used to speak ups on these issues, hoping causal in the road. take us ching away some that could end up being incredibly dangerous for your up and of course us is too long since it's hobbled to

potential rival and yeah, and it's, it's not stuff. so i don't even, i think their brain tags. i think they are completely in a bubble at their media, tells them what they've onto here on their industrial obvious are leading them on, particularly in the defense sector. whether it's the people of your who are going to lose sight of those are about the daily i'll stop use a little from the irish politician, important member of the european parliament. after this break, the, the

russian states never saw one of the most sense community best. most all sense of the, in the system must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the rush of funding and supports the r t spoke neck, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say, even closer to the

welcome back to going underground? i'm still here with the irish politician. i was a, there's a member to europe and parliament that daily play. you mentioned at the end of 51 that the trump might have been behaving ignorantly in the oval office. i think i'll gladly was told the truth by to see gilbert lieutenant colonel, his new director of national intelligence. i mean, uh, do you think uh, do you think now your opinions understand that uh, the, the usa will leave nature are, i mean, not to say for, i don't know what they understand. i think they understand nothing. it's all most or they're kind of dodging for a war with russia. it's beyond the lead from religion besides a nuclear power on the same continent. it's just also really bizarre. i honestly, i've been witness them over the past 5 years. incorporating an integration european

defense more and more as being synonymous with nasal, they're kind of broader, less now which one but the helm, they don't really know what to do. and you could almost see a situation where the us, china and russia are sort of getting along. ok, well maybe not joined on the us board. you know, you are being told to be excluded and rolling down the wrong mode, looking for a solution. and there are also a bang go bankrupt, and we saw that as, of course, you know, in, in other issues and garza and older mattress as well as even on their own home turf . it's the same. you join attention to the use of shannon airport in island before for us foreign policy. i don't know whether it made you feel happy or, or the what you felt that the there. now the united states is telling britain, britain, which hosts thousands of us troops, all those us bases, all those weapons, just setting them do not share any intelligence with zalinski and ukraine. it's,

it's so public, as it was, that britain just has to obey what the united states does, but these are all, so they really are occupying groups and you are a totally, i mean, a it, this is the info here and something your opinion, leadership on the one hand their pricing talk and they're talking about minutes rising more and they're going to stand by ukraine and all this. but at the same time, they are almost waiting for him out the face of trump also. and it supports tactic . what they should do is go and talk to russia themselves, develop an independence, european foreign policy, the benefits the people of europe in said they've been subservient to us interests for so long now. it's almost that they can't break games versus even one of the us is in their face, making it obvious that they are subservient. it's it. i think these are astounding times and they are so i was of torch is it is terrifying that these idiots are,

was, constitutes the leadership of europe. and in the european parliament, you'd have met lots of european members of the european parliament from very different electorates as they prepare to massively cut social welfare programs in britain and island pads, pensions welfare, housing, all these different programs for this war on russia. just to give us a, give us a picture of the scale of inequality in the european union. i mean 195000000 is the figure from the european commission of 95000000 people tonight are frightened of not being able to read. yeah, there is a housing crisis right across europe. now, here in ireland, very people in relatively god's employments can't afford to either rent or buy a house. there is a public services crisis really everywhere in europe,

not to mention the climate catastrophe and our responsibilities in that regard. and instead, what we've seen is billions being taken as a purchase, which were designed to deal with the crime records has been used on defense. so it's a total for me, not only are we taking money away from work that could be done to deal with the environmental problems, they're going to defense, their carbon footprint of which is never a task calculated anywhere. so there's huge chrysler must have cost of living prices all across europe and for ordinary citizens to hear that they can find a 100000000000 on weapons of destruction, to kill people, and to have their own children be killed in the process. it's off the richter scale, and yet the media in your bleeds and repeat stop. i see if there is no and alternative. is that why the media is so important? the propaganda campaign? i mean, so if you know the news channel of choice of donald trump,

fox news is banned from broad cost effective in, say, britain, o t is obviously banned across europe. see dtn ben from broadcast across the say, britain, is that why the propaganda is so important? because there's 800000000 figure you mentioned to us live on the land in the context of this kind of level of poverty. you'd expect social unrest and civil disobedience, but there isn't any a. yeah, i think the easier i think mode to max one saturday said, you know, the media is the most powerful organization in the world that can make you believe that the innocent or guilty of the guilty innocence. and that's really what it is. it's a cost and diet, so brush of phobia of war mongering of making people feel insecure and on stay on safe. it doesn't have any basis thing. rationality when you're exposed to the morning noon, a nice, it has some effect and there's a radar and the here that they claim to be the democracies, the rich democracies. but there was an increasing authoritarian as of now across

europe in terms of silence and dissenting views. that was very much to the for in the war and ukraine where we know the truth is all of us, the 1st casualty of war. but at least in the war and you interact, we know they lied on the weapons of mass destruction and all of that. but at least you cause already went on to more positions and half dr. basics in the warranty, ukraine. you could not argue an anti war position. you were immediately labeled as a booth and publish a kremlin stooge of useful ages, or whatever and off was how to a certain effect. because i mean, how are we in a situation where donald trump's proposal for peace and ukraine has provoked this mass of roger thing up of militarize ation. it doesn't make any sense. i mean, the things, you know, they said that excellent, everybody knew that you plan was never going to join day. so that was never going to happen. he said when everybody knew, i know,

suspect ukraine comes when the war it's smoke, but they haven't falls a road to the yard or they're useless or anything like that. just look at a map. ukraine is a fraction the size of brochure, which is a joint. you know, nuclear power on their boards are in the psalms, it just doesn't make sense. and i think stop the war in britain is actually for the war or russia, such as being the circle left in european countries. and we have moved much, but on the sense of shipping propaganda, i understand its getting pretty bad in your as regards the continuing genocide in gaza all be at the trump stopped. we, aerial bombardment of gaza. trump is talking to hum us, we understand. and uh, how bad is it as regards uh, what's happening in palestine because of the europe in union. that is being sending the arms. you mentioned l bit systems to carry out the genocide of our times. the

union has been slowly complacence in the genocides since the day of the star or so the underlying green lodge of the is rarely activities gave them a dime check. and the cool minutes of your a and many of them have provided the state couldn't call for a series far they couldn't break the u. x ray a sophie ation agreements. uh, absolutely. unbelievable. when we take back the patch here in the reagan soft arms to israel in earlier days with far less, i mean terrible doors on living and on all of the nothing on the scale of fault we've seen in guy so. so yeah, it's, it's, i find it very hard to, to deal with because these people talk about human rights everywhere. but they didn't charge that the devastation in dallas a continues. they couldn't care less things anybody over there and they take no

credibility whatsoever. and now we see the on credible solidarity all across your in support of palestine and gosh, i've been suppressed by many your team members say to seem to mention the softer war coalition in britain, how being hauled in over initiative. so they organize. we've seen people in germany, meetings been broken off to police, attending meetings in germany, the wearing of a california and stuff like that could launch it in very big trouble in the states . so freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, all these things that they consist for other countries and give them a those other countries not doing their even worse than that. there's a 2 factor coming in on, on palestinian solidarity. and even countries like garlands which are law just being pro paula sign and obviously the people of our and in very well charlie, gas is as a country that would occupied for so long at ourselves. but the irish governments have only given rash rate. they to have sold judy is god's to is for they to have

ensure the selling of its way the backbones buyer, central bank to our end, the war effort. they've been complex as, as well as a double speak. we told to talk, but their actions are different and it's, yeah it's, it's pretty balanced. bush on the other side, the people of your being tier everywhere. and i mean, everywhere like germany, we know how killing that the, the doctors are there, but i in earlier long it last month, a change of amazing of tires as a back to pursue or so clearly grow, publish showing up and looking for ways to get organized but the mean husband for, sorry, yeah, no fan of donald trump or j, the vines clearly who come from a sort of higher in, at extreme right in terms of economics. but when j. d von selected the europeans on freedom of speech, given the censorship,

i understand the so called the was it british broadcasting corporation babies in britain censoring a film on palestine the other day? i don't know how it is an island, does he say it's measuring island? did you sympathize with what j d vans was lecturing these europeans about as regards freedom with speed. okay. well, a 100 percent rise, just because somebody you may disagree with pleasure to sometimes says things that are actors are correct or that you know that's they're going to get to make a good america. great, that's the default. that's a for the i think this is really solve because i think the problem is on the other, trump and zones identified very much with the far right. you are incredibly racist and onto pallets showing that across your foot. the left in your of should be also taking up those causes because they're absolutely correct. i mentioned it so many times in the parliament. the authoritarian is coming from new york and discrimination against russian speaking citizens. and in the,

in the book to the states. never got to mention, but it is prevalent there are people in jail, in, in the baltic countries just for simply defending the right to speak at motion and so on. it's catastrophic. and yet they, they talk about civil liberties. and um, she one rights everybody. they've abandoned international law and i think this is what we saw with guys that because you know myself and they, paula said that that was a wash and dry oxygen to it was a warning. it was a harbinger of a new one, much more violent world square. international law was being public, a phone charge. we know international law was never really for the people like split it to try to keep things a little bit and check, but by so flagrantly gone far and you're in the face of an openly declared and poultry to tarry jen, devastation, genocide. they narrow their colors to the mosque on the they've no right to speak really about rights anywhere on the completion curtailment of civil liberties in your now is, is actually empty. accelerating,

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