known for its i'm not afraid of the word anti -russian position yes, almost russophobic. here he showed a snippet, where his publication is called a war crime in ukraine and it turns out that it means supposedly ukrainian soldiers at close range shooting at the legs in a group of captured russian soldiers captured, so this is not the first evidence of atrocities of bullying, uh, who undertake the relations of our prisoners of war ukrainian nazis aloud. i don't care who is who is not there. well it the first publication that appeared on the page of the western newspaper. and these are not the last newspapers, but the most yellow ones, a boulevard with a huge circulation. and this means that, uh, they believe in the west that it will be impossible to hide it further, because there were statements. of the red cross, there were statements by the

un under the geneva convention regarding prisoners of war that ukraine does not comply with it, and i consider this publication as an understanding, in particular in germany, that it will be impossible to hide this further. i think that this is a very important step. and when the bill throws something out, then, uh, this cannot be treated with indifference, because he understands that others will now be forced to use it, but in connection with this, of course, another question will be raised and raised. he is very painful, very serious. but how will the investigation be carried out in the first place, and how will the guilt be punished and what is denotification, how will it be carried out? i have my own idea of ​​how identification should be carried out in ukraine, i will not voice it, because then everyone will attack at once, but i just understand that by simply retraining and talking with people who participated in these battles and are participating in them. there will be no genocification

. that is, it can only be the genocification of a coercive plan, i will put an end to this, because my further reflections may lead us all too far. i know how diversification took place in germany and i know very well in the part where it was through persuasion and showing photographs, 90% of those who were not genocified remained in the part where forced in a certain way to legally genocify. she went great. he understands everything perfectly there, and this issue for ukraine is the most urgent operation for me today. tomorrow will end, and these thousands of tens of thousands of people must be genocified, as i will tell my point of view later. in my opinion, very important. here is this story and i completely agree that it is important that there is some kind. breakthrough i will not say that it is right now some kind of really there, uh, defining. but the fact that leaked it to the western press. this is very important, but i would pay attention to

how this video has influenced here in russia, and it has had a very strong influence. this is to deny. it 's impossible. here maxim spoke about the emotional component of a person who is there on the second day. yes, there the special operation said that he was going to record. this, of course, is an emotional thing. so, it seems to me that this is what happened now and what is now starting to diverge right in waves, because behind this video followed by others who appeared on the network and those people who denied it, who did not want to see it, they suddenly began to pay attention to it, and i see it, but uh, maxim allowed himself his friend there. i can tell by many of my acquaintances, including, yes, from the professional community of people who suddenly opened their eyes. they understood who those people are and they or very many are great, that this does not happen, that this is not only connected with the conduct of a special operation, what happened before that, what is impossible for no there for 2

weeks. yes, there suddenly, so that people like this, uh, reforged and began to enjoy the sight of a dying person. this cannot be done in 2 weeks. and these are the people who were there before. eh, wonderful wonderful, and suddenly this war just plowed them up so much that they are now shooting in the leg or somewhere there somewhere to a person who is a prisoner with their hands tied. and then enjoy it. no, everyone understood that everything is not so simple, and it seems to me that this is very important. history. maxim since they operated on you, to your opinion. uh, emotionally i absolutely agree, of course, a disgusting story that, in my opinion, any normal person here, including in ukraine, by the way, can only treat this like that. what about the consequences? here's what to draw a conclusion from. and damn, they rolled up the entire territory of ukraine and carried out forcible decification, as alexander suggests. well, in theory, probably, yes,

but i'm used to, uh, thinking in realistic categories, so i remember, but let's, let's, so, maxim, you will say further. i will always give you the opportunity to talk. here let's do not run ahead take territory do not take territory. so far, only one issue is being discussed, because here is zelensky. he chats with them every day from the bunker. he said that he was not interested in the question of twelveification and the dilemma of militarization. he doesn't understand anything about it, he's not going to discuss it, and he's not going to include it in the negotiation position, lensky said. and i'm interested in the opinion of our people here. here is zelensky’s opinion. here i think, like alexander as he is, that identification in this situation is a mandatory procedure, how will it be done? this hockey will be decided according to the situation, as it will be necessary, since this situation will develop in many respects. this self-determination, including that of the people living

in these territories, will depend on many factors, but there is one question. we consider it inevitable that identification is highly necessary or not. and you can continue the idea, of course, but i think that, uh, not only me, but also in uh, paid attention to the briefing that took place at the ministry of defense and when i spoke colonel general sergei rudskoy, substitutively. uh, the chief agent of the staff of the russian armed forces, he said several times that the main goal of the operation is the liberation of donbass. i did not hear from him that there are other goals. this is control over the entire territory of ukraine, this is an exemption from its terminology. you understand kiev as a team, a person who set goals means a goal. inserted, but if in 38 days of the company, and life makes some adjustments, then you have to be a stubborn fanatic to continue repeating that i’m not

i know who i'm talking to in general, so i'm in this case, maybe i misunderstood, and you all understand correctly that the military comes to you. yes, i am ready to explain to you the military proceed from the plan that was, because i, for example, from the very beginning i never belonged to those who said that 10,000 or 15,000 troops could take five million kiev, so i never uttered this nonsense , so it’s easy for me. before there was a briefing on friday, the ministry of defense, which has now slightly opened the plan for the first stage of the military operations. it completely coincided that i, not knowing anything, only looking at the map and pictures, uttered my reconstructions, linking distraction strikes, the destruction of nodes and military infrastructure, the destruction of fuel and lubricants and warehouses. groupings in the donbass well, this is the designated first plan for a military operation.

indeed, at the first stage of the military operation, rutka said so, true, yes, and now, when the grouping in the donbass is destroyed , the following goals will be set, which they will depend on a lot, but if they continue we know how to count dmitry if the task is to establish control over the entire territory of ukraine let's be honest that this will be a general mobilization, respectively. god forbid social discontent problems. it seems to me that our authorities want to avoid this at all costs, so the company's plans need to be changed depending on it. from how difficult or easy it is to add up. maxim you can change plans only in your head , just like me, because we only have a reconstruction of plans, and i can’t change anything falls from 1 to here, in my opinion, we have seven heads dmitry and everyone says he is only responsible for his own sins. and you, well, but i'm not saying you can change the plan. in my head and i can change in mine. but to give someone a task, because

we don’t fully know the plans that we have, we only know those that are voiced. everything else is our fantasy vasily . i will still say my point of view later, unconditionally, uh, ukrainian language is not for the convenience of what is happening, but in a specific case. it's really gross, second. i want to say that politicians in ukraine recognize that this is a violation and recognize for another 10 days, a week ago they paid attention and publicly called for no violations. this is a pure war crime, a war crime for which vasilievich's mission is not there, it really is, but uh, there can be no two-mei here either. well, look dmitry, what worries me, one such moment worries me a month of a military campaign a little more than the first stage, as your leaders determined, yes, it was said here. and uh, about the fact that we have laboratories, yes,

biological ones, that we have chemical weapons there, almost what we did, we were a proclitic weapon, or we said, we could do uh, some kind of nuclear weapon, that is, they said they said and now the first stage is over and you have a picture. that is, as if you understand where i correctly said that it sticks people. this is only from people not only in russia, this is only their people and in europe in including in ukraine to wait, wait. this is what happens, we already hate other people so much that we are ready to mock the prisoners over this. this is lower. you already know this, this is for humanity. it's already an animal. and it seems to me that this is the thing, it will work a little in the heads of ukrainians, too, wait. wait. here it is wrong. you can't eat it here. we have a prosecutor's office in our law enforcement agencies, which should investigate this crime, if there are any massive. yes it is clear. well, a very long time to speak. this is

a consequence. in the end. we must stop the war. we must stop the war. we must come. no need to stop. the reason must be over. so we stopped the war in the fifteenth year. this is what russia did, by the way, we stopped it. in the fifteenth year you used everything in order to arm yourself and prepare a new attack on the donbass and the destruction of people, which means it was said now, including to the germans, when the laurel said this, the german german authorities there said that the most important thing now is a truce, they needed a truce. there will be no truce, there will be peace, you understand, and a truce so that at this time johnson will pump up your weapons, and you will carry out all the necessary maneuvers and prepare for new hostilities. yes, let's subscribe it does not want to. he said please, here is a

delegation working in minsk work. to be honest, well, listen, if i'm quoting the president of ukraine, i know that you are chattering, because i analyzed it. then i inform you, zelensky is not consider not up to nosification, not the dominican republic we have already discussed. well, i have more questions here. if there are questions and their donbass of crimea was also not considered. he is also with me. yesterday he said the mechanism, how it should be, how it should be from the point of view of ukrainian legislation. he publicly said it in general. well, stop it. he said that he was not going to discuss issues of territorial integrity. let him sit in the bunker. yes, you know, yesterday, just like you , vasily listened to a statement, uh, or speech president, the interview he gave and when he speaks, i don't understand. what is denocification? i don't know what it's all about. well, maybe

he doesn't know, i don't know, but he generally knows the history of our country in general. yes, he knows, he certainly knows he studied at school. tell me, please, the activities in a country that survived the entire tragedy of the second world war, the activities of extremely radical, frankly nazi organizations. it is generally acceptable. well, it is generally acceptable, in principle. well, at least that's where you can start. he at least yesterday i would have made a statement to say, listen, well, yes, regarding the extremely radical nazi nationalist organizations, the use of symbols, and so on, will be strictly suppressed in ukraine, this will be completely banned. it may not say so. you understand, he tells me, we don’t even talk about this, even about the procedure, he doesn’t even speak superficially about those things that these people deeply understand what happened to them. this is not politics. this is the restoration of elementary historical justice, you understand respect for those people. which head was laid, what to protect? just like you're just now, if a man comes out,

look, half of the people are full of swastikas. it 's normal, in general, it's not normal. here the prosecutor's office took by the ears planted. can you serve? no, it's not a theory, it's not a theory. and you know. honestly, i'm starting to get a little angry, because because of this everything happens and now people because of this position, how we demonstrate alcohol, now a simple thing. he had to come out and say his personal position. i hate we must destroy nazism. we must stop these organizations. he didn't say that. tell me please, he didn't say that. yes, there is another very important problem. i return you all to the land of germany, which the german minister of health said today. the fact is that, along with the gigantic number of refugees that enter

europe, in particular, outbreaks have gone in germany, and not only corona a and measles, which, as far as i know, vaccinations against measles in ukraine were practically not done at all, but in germany this is taken very seriously and those almost 300,000 people who are already in germany today, i don’t know in which lands there are a lot in berlin there are a lot in other lands. this is a potential danger factor that does not understand how to overcome it now, how to do something about it . a large number of children who are carriers of certain viruses and for germany today the problem of refugees suddenly turned into a health problem and perhaps some serious pandemic or endemic problems in society. let them decide. sash , i would definitely say this is not the only problem that they

will have to solve. we'll talk more about rejection now. from this, too, us. wait a day. i said that it makes me feel better, why then do you attribute to me? i told exactly the host to ask for a word, so that alexander well , wait, because maxim maxim said paphos this type, here. uh, how these refugees arrived, and they're not in it yet, when i go to the football field to the hockey field. and when i talk about germany, i say what i know, unlike your maxim, so it's not about pathos. and the thing is , but i said so to the fact that you need to know the situation. it is incomprehensible what you are saying these things that you know, and not simply, because you want alexander to return maxim alexander, let's not get personal. i don't like it when they start performing horribly. here is the madness so incomprehensible. you are talking to the point. they just rub, don't they? so, in general, let's not

get personal maxim yes, then look. i believe that sosnovsky simply said what the minister of health of germany spoke about. although , why did he say so to the fact that this is a fact. er, i can explain to you. if you don’t know it yourself, it’s a fact, as he says, but it’s not a fact, the fact is that the number of systemic problems that exist in germany is growing like a snowball and this is one of them, which was yesterday it wasn't, but now it is. and there are ten more. we will talk about this, but i would like now to talk about two things that you said, about which i, who said gi here you see, here is the position of vasily and maxim here, what has changed, you say the war has changed there called, transcarpathia is a worker. i also have workers. they also called transcarpathia and said something else, but this does not equalize anything. but what happened and is happening in mariupol and what is happening with our prisoners of war and not

only about this one publication elda yes this is not an isolated case, i cannot show it on central television. i never will, but the internet is full of all this people see it. and you know, something really interesting happened. here you are in ukraine, you would understand this, when we had shows like this for eight years, we argued with you, shouted, many people thought in russia well, that this is such a decision. this is such a theatre. well , vakarov, kulikov, starolidze, are participating in the theater, they are participating in the theater, they are throwing hot stuff about nazism there about something else. well, this is to burn the audience. it should also be interesting. and now you know what happened. and this is a very important thing. separately, it is necessary to talk about how

our society will change our civilization. this is a military operation and everything that is happening in relation to the west and the east . yes, in the world as a whole, this is a separate big topic, but i can say for sure. right now, everyone who argued that our discussion or statement about nazism is about inhumanity is about bestiality about bestiality. these are ugly words. you see when i talked about what happened in the fourteenth year in the fifteenth year in the donbass or the region. here he told well, he embellishes it in order to win in an argument with a cut, for example, and then it turns out that mariupol is mariupol and there are thousands of people who talk about themselves personally, but these days. well, they say the same thing that handcuffs said and kulikov said, and this is shown on the video. it's impossible to fake it. you understand that now our large country and the entire russian-speaking world sees that

we have been telling the truth for 8 years and accepts it as the truth. this is what is happening now and they are projecting onto themselves, because you know who i apologize for, that you understand that these are the people with whom the response that i saw is a lot of women who are simply on themselves that these are their sons or it's them there, uh husbands and so on, they apply to themselves. yes, and most of these people i'm talking about, they were initially against the war, in principle, but now they understand who they encountered there, you know what it is absolutely?