has handed over vladimir putin insists on payment in rubles. they will point out that they will not pay in rubles. in a european sense. so the question is are you going to turn off the gas. uh, no dependency, no pay, no gas, no candy. in general, e. yes. so in the morning money in the evening chairs. you can, on the contrary, you can, but money does not take money, go ahead. here, in general, this is the story with gas. this morning i am with a man who has worked a lot in the financial sector. moreover, he worked precisely with western countries and so on. he is hardly a very intelligent person. i know him very old school, not the current tribe. here he was choosing words all the time so as not to simply slide down to the russian language, so to speak, but already the one that cannot be used on the air, what is happening now is some kind of phantasmagoria. in my opinion. well, the truth is, that is, you remember ma who said it was necessary.

for russia to supply gas and oil. and you don't have to pay for them. and this is for some accounts warehouses in the nightstand. there's so represent me, i i thought, you fool. well, what to take from him? well, really, well, you fool, listen, it turned out that they are the same, they offer exactly this. that is, they offer us to sell them gas, or rather, do not substitute the seller, but they will put it in a kind of bedside table, which has a key, which they will have, you understand, and that's all and they and look at this e-correspondent , which with a burning eye you know and what well, you are there in rubles, you want about but they don’t want him to have to talk again. yes, you will pay gas will not pay will not strip you know the level of discussion. he is some. well just. well, i don’t know, well, obviously not in order for it to be between the serious countries of old europe and russia,

this is some kind of nonsense for me. honestly, in this sense, the parallel is easy to draw with ukraine , you know, the first number is here 31 will be our conditions. they are being improved. they will be the scheme will be published next a few days, or the europeans accept come. yes, either or that either there will be no gas. well, here's the story, really quite simple and generally understandable. hmm , nobody really expected such a move from us, apparently, for one reason only. this reason is called. we have repeatedly discussed the question of the quality of modern western ones. elite's quality there is a few hmm pumped up let's say so. here is what, at least for the public elites, you won’t look at them without a tear. uh, and in general, such people, unfortunately, make decisions to make it clear europe all this winter. she successfully, as it were, wintered only due to one thing, despite to all figures on the london stock exchange si uh? at the

dutch hub, europe received an average of $280 per 1,000 cubic meters of gas from gazprom on long-term loans. this is the official data released by gazprom is the average figure for last year as early as january of this year 687 is the average weighted figure. and the whole point is that this is an amazing story with the transition, uh, to spot prices. it's not a secret, after all. who initiated it and it's no secret who conducted it , the british in europe stubbornly carried it out, all these the baltic people from the european commission, who were in charge, listen carefully. they held that no prices for you for continental europe would be set on the london stock exchange. this is the main result. actually sales on this london stock exchange. actually it didn't work. these are 4,000 for 1,000 cubic meters. they were walking there in

just a small amount. basically, they lived on ours, on our gas, and on the gas that was raised from the natural gas, now the situation is this. here he says, well, there is time before winter, guys about the summer peak consumption. you forgot it is no less than winter. now will be the moment of truth, we'll see. you understand what happened, of course, but the phrase of mr. peskov well, in the usa, when you heard such a phrase, but raspberries, that is, there is no money, there will be no love, but there is one thing, but ukrainian interest is definitely a list here, because if we are the transit side, and the transit goes through us and who will pay us? in what shall we in what shall we receive? uh, for for gas transit in rubles, or what? we do not want to receive in rubles, we want to receive euro and second. like no one will break the second one. let's professionally have a long-term contract a long -term contract, but i have read a few board tractors. it says the currency of the purchase of the payment, yes luda payment. there are no rubles,

how are you going to correctly have the task of politicians to do this? how will you do it if the counterparties are in the west? no, they will refuse. they are just like ours. you are not going to. break the contract. he writes i'll tell you how it all happens. this is if you are in a mild form, how everything will happen is impossible making payments in fixed currencies. forces parties to pay. it's obvious. it has a name, which means that you, together with all of europe, suddenly decided to remember the right to contract, which means that contracts are indeed a force majeure attack. force majeure is an unforeseen circumstance that does not allow you to fulfill your obligations, which include war there yet, but here not even war is force majeure; force majeure is an arrest, the collapse of the financial system of the world financial system, because that finance is based on trust. well, then the word loans means trust, since it is at the

heart of any finance, which means that everything is gone, there is no more trust in the dollar, the dollar is no longer a universal currency. and except for up to one, this would be enough to declare force majeure. well, you, along with them from the other side, say that so and a. and that you can't pay. well, that's it, it means that he can't use his money, and, mind you, this is called force majeure, force majeure, here's how to act. so, well, first things first. we will stop the gas through one important consequence of major, we can generally stop the operation of contacts. not that observe them there in some part. well, that's it, force majeure means there is no more contract. don't want we no more no more sanctions there are sanctions. please wait, it is impossible to carry out calculations in the old schemes , it is

impossible to understand the filter score. if you do not accept the new scheme, we will stop the gas, we will stop, then we will see what other court we will be in. it was the west that took no sanctions against gazprom the law firm was not accepted it was accepted by the government it is this what does the company have to do with it? and do you understand? well, if you pronounce the word contract, or at least something about it, you should know. well, at least something you need to know something means force majeure is to stand, that irresistible forces that are external to the parties. and so it is external in relation to gazprom, of course. well, they don't want to understand, they want to know how it will be without gas when i am why and you forget this latin word. why you? why am i telling you this? why did i start with the fact that you could not make a coup, you could fulfill the minsk agreements, you could withdraw troops outside the republics on february 22, on february 20, zelensky could write

a letter that we would not join any nato anywhere and we would not all this will be nothing . europe could do the same. maybe now it’s easy to just buy for rubles, but instead it will be left without gas, like ukraine, like ukraine now dary means ah, about these sanctions. yes, you know, i thought for a long time, for example. eh, what can russia to undertake? what kind of retaliatory measures and so on, that means, and so, that means i’m sitting like this, thinking, thinking, now we need to switch to the ruble. and then i see that the americans are forcing us to do it. you understand what we must do. the americans are doing the most for us, you know, this is aerobatics. this is a game of political geopolis game, that is, if we, for example, do not deliver wheat in advance, we will announce about how you could you and so on. and when they do everything for us to close at home. we will soon shoulder we are responsible for ourselves

we throw off, that is, we crossed the ruble for so many years asking for 30 years. let's switch to the ruble. our financial is the very side. uh, no, no, i remember these words of gref, that well, no, well, the president said it was necessary to switch to the ruble. well, well, well, but in 2 years. well, there are 10. well, he did not answer in any way. and today the americans forced us to imagine a mountain from their shoulders, that is, everything that they did, the americans - it was done for us, that is, they use us to the detriment of themselves, and therefore i think that while the elite is in power, we should receive such crap in europe we had to give our full full what we need right now, we need to put pressure on and get it from these fr. yes , it goes bad. see, it turns out. here is another message in the letter that yours sent signed, that you are ready to declare yourself a permanently neutral state. got it. i would tell you a huge secret, not one housewife.

uh, the french has not yet sued gazprom, that is, not yet, therefore, in your opinion, that is, there are no precedents for this, and there are actually problems. no. yes, that is, it is normal there is one small detail. yes, gas is from gazprom gazprom sells its property its gas and is waiting for payment for it. yes, that is, when when the french, the british, the americans took sanctions, they counted on the fact that everyone would be frightened together and go again on these conditions. yes, without gas, without energy resources by 40 or 50%, e depends on russian supplies. what they expected, that is, the americans, is understandable. what did they expect? they have everything, yes, but the british, what did they count on, and the french, what did they count on? yes, that is, listen, well, really, yes, of course it's different. it's really different. well, that's why you have to now. that's when the french german spokesman. we, in my opinion, inserted here a couple of days ago. what he said, you know, he says russia has taken retaliatory actions against our sanctions. it's terrible. it's just terrible, how could she, yes, that is, we did not even imagine that there would be retaliatory actions

retaliatory actions were made. and rightly so, that is the normal theory of negotiation. that is, until you get an answer on the head in response to your there will be no question of filing any equal relationship, so now you get it all now you have a chance, so you say now all of you will declare all of you joyful joyful news that you will not buy for rubles, then you will look for an intermediary, from which russia will also refuse, then by the summer you will start talking. come on, let's see the details of the contract by the fall, everyone will happily switch to the ruble. listen, we ate belarusians so cool that we just won’t eat everything, so that the belarusian sea, too dried up. you tried, i will give the floor, but he just see what he says for the sake of it, he said importantly about the search for intermediaries and everything else. here, if slowly, yes, now they will seek to ensure that we continue to take the euro. it 's not from ambition. this is because you need to go somewhere, which

means pairing unnecessary banknotes, because a situation has arisen that is obvious to everyone. we don't need russian euros and dollars because we can't buy anything with them, we don't need anything at all. they are meaningless for us, you know, it's not a dispute and not even in the system of calculations, this one has much deeper conclusions. they are absolutely meaningless, by the way, the whole era was closed when we well, no matter how well, we had no goal putin was right. he told the truth, we did not have the goal of destroying the entire global financial system and we did not destroy it, the americans and europe destroyed it, by the way, you know, you say non-government in a major way. do you know that 32% of our reserves of the central bank are reserves in euros, 32, and only 16 in the us, so who is more on him from the russian federation? more damage? europe so let them answer, and then it

will be a simple principle, since we do not need the euro. we can’t buy anything on them anywhere, then there will be a simple question, where will they get rubles? and they will have to sell something to us, you know, in order to get rubles. and this is what they really don't want. that's the whole story, we will also choose what we will continue only in the fall, they will understand. only in the autumn will they understand, and then the acceptance phase will begin. yes, timothy means there are no more long-term contracts. well, you must understand that a contract or agreement is ideal constructions, not physical ones. it's not even that they are written down somewhere. it may even be a narrow agreement, well, it exists as long as there is a corresponding will once this will. no, there is no agreement, you never know, when there is a piece of paper. the will of that side is directed in the other direction from any agreement with dreams. they got out of all these agreements by their actions. they even

destroyed the fact that, yes, that they themselves prayed, this is a global system of unified financial settlements. her these currencies can no longer be trusted can't be trusted their words can't be trusted, so everything will go back to bartering to the good old one on giving us the backbone of economic life. here is what awaits us. and the fact that at the same time it will be recorded there in the form of some of these same dollars, rubles, and so on, by the way, under interesting conditions, how will all this be decided there? maybe something. well, you're a lawyer rachami with this podlyakov can yell, whatever worked for them. but legally. yes, medinsky said that even if there is an agreement on the security guarantees of ukraine, they will not distribute in any way. he doesn’t need to go to crimea, donbass, which means legally everyone is free. everyone is free, that is, the global legal structure in this sense will not consider that crimea and donbass are the territory of ukraine, these are conditions. you may

not recognize. you can hold a referendum. you ca n't hold a referendum. well, the goal of the russian federation will be achieved, and we will not get away from this, you understand, the tough will be written in very black and white clearly, if someone is under it will sign is not distributed. uh, this is in relation to the crimea and donbass, goodbye. here is a clear example of vasily that russia did not want to violate this whole system, you need to look at the year 2000. look at the west, then everything was fine, russia wanted the west to bring closer rapprochement. west date, even wanted to go and even offered clinton they ignored. russia asked, so to the european union let's get a visa-free regime, an associative person, everything was rejected. russia something, although wait. yes, i ’m telling you, they blame putin for everything, but they don’t want to see what's all here. uh, putin's life path

was an attempt to make friends with the west without their conflicts. we took out our bases from cuba from vietnam we mean uh gas. if you want, as much as you want, here, please, wood, please, it means that and the station is with me, please, in response that we got that we are enemies, we mean despots there and so on, they think that if putin is replaced, then who would come like that and everything will go back. so i’ll tell you more, then putin he still had illusions of this generation to fix the west relationship, and now goes to the knees, which have had these streets of illusions for more than a year. they'll deliver all the western options, you know? now, if putin allows them to still brag and strut in front of the screen, putin is such a new putin, who will not allow this to come, they will force it. weep, here they will weep, weep, weep, because they have destroyed all the illusions about the west about a happier democratic

free life about values ​​for the younger generation, everything is destroyed, so who will come, after putin you will be still pray for putin and he will do good. as such, the good santa claus who gave you everything, yes, before that. yes, it’s interesting what happens today, i decided urgently on tuesday to talk directly with germany, great britain, italy, something will be discussed about ukraine, there will be advice to keep. interestingly, again according to tradition, you ask for a cheat sheet, he has already been written to this conversation. i would still like to get back to what you were talking about, dima. i think this is the most important thing. it's here. well, now the lightning is coming, that yes, there is neutral statuses are ready, that's all. and this and, of course, well, it is impossible not to think that after all, all this could have been done together unequivocally. and all this could be done until the moment when they started fighting, until they began to shed blood, until they began to die. people, until these bastards began to appear, by the way, information came

that our special forces had already detained them - unverified information. i'm on purpose. i hope so, we will wait for confirmation, we will wait for confirmation. well , i really hope it's like this a month ago. yes all the same when you were shouting your politicians there. uh, they shouted that we are a free country - this is our free choice. we want to join nato, we go there. we will go wherever we want, we go, and so on, without taking into account any interests of the red lines. for us , there are no red lines, and so on crossing the red line. it was always, yes, red, despite, to understand the borders there or something else. this is a war, yes, which you received on the territory of your country, and in what form will this country come out now? and in general, will it come out as a country? this big question, but the fact that it could be stopped by exactly accepting the very thing that they are now, well, understandable under pressure and so on, but this could be done if they thought about their

country about their wording. again, legal, significant ukraine refuses to conduct exercises on its territory without agreement with strange guarantors. russia enters. yes, in this sense, without the permission of russia, no military exercises can be held on the territory of ukraine at any exercises. in principle, it can’t. that’s why everything was worth it do it. think, i wanted ukraine to think, yes, you know, i would also really like ukraine to think, and firstly, so that it would think back in the fourteenth year. that is, if ukraine had thought in the fourteenth year, then you would not have had euphoria on the maidan and you would have understood that it was possible to save ukraine in the form in which it could be fulfilled, the agreement that was signed then and by hand there was a chance. you said no, yes, that is, popiv minsk alone could have kept the donbass in that form, that is, already crimea is gone. yes, that is, according to the results of february of the fourteenth year, crimea left, therefore, according to the results of your failure to fulfill minsk-2, donbass left. yes, that is, you must understand this for yourself, that

is, you are trying all the time, having already gone through, that is , this vile thinking, yes, that is, you continue to talk about the fact that someone’s box has already closed, you understand, and who is the opportunity already closed in donbass, your window of opportunity is closed. remember to yourself and now write in black and white, donbass are already separate states of the lc and the dpr, which are recognized by the russian federation, which will determine their own future, will it be there in allied relations, and in other respects go to international organizations, and so on. everything donbass is right. took. funny right won and you lost it, so do not, and no longer need to fantasize about the topic. how are you going to manage the donbass, as it were, under what jurisdiction are you going to start you are superfluous here. you've already covered it all here. you now have a chance to decide standing from the territory of ukraine. your the name achu is the rest of ukraine and that's it. think now about the fate of this achu. yes, that is, what will happen there, because when we write out now here is a list of countries that are

guarantors that cannot guarantee you anything, in principle, you have one guarantor - the russian federation and its military bases on the territory on the territory of the rest of ukraine they will be able to guarantee you the ukrainian people, first of all, they will be able to calm without a nuclear status, a neutral status, and so on and so forth. this is what can guarantee the russian federation with its presence and your hydrogen will no longer have a headache about how to please the nato eu to the americans or everyone else ? well, at the same time, it is clear that only the first money today of these negotiations is, well, these written documents received from ukraine, by the way, remember vasily, you and i spoke in this program. yes, ukraine demanded a written document from ukraine. why us actually? ukraine wants, right? ukraine has been writing documents for almost a month. what month it was yes, this one is all yes, this one weighs. ukraine wrote a document, you know, i'll

tell you so. i don't know how things will go. because i say it again, i'm not in the sense of these subject. eh, i doubt it, and i doubt their legal capacity that they can really do something to sign something. yes, the guardian can. everything will be decided by one o correctly then the guardian will decide everything. and i’ll remind you one more thing, putin told you that he would raise the issue of ukrainian statehood, what he said now is he the most is, and it will be. it is not connected either with the crimea or the donbass, not with our military special operation, because this is ukraine’s own issue, it put itself in such a situation advertising, after it it will continue. the 60 minutes program is on air, we have a special issue, we start with urgent news. these nato yourself are turning into a show for american hel, no

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against the military of the russian federation and against the military republics of donetsk and luhansk will be investigated and the perpetrators will be punished again i have to turn to you, but in this rhetorical sense, again, you told me how terrible a split is, yes, a split is taking place, including a church one . we almost do not know what is happening there, she does not call the level in these churches and in what is left of your state. and then yesterday or there tonight the video was published already. innate, by the way, your ukrainian sources wrote that this video is genuine. and what is all this really was. eh, let's see, this is the parish of the ukrainian orthodox church. yes, people

who call themselves territorial defense broke into the temple of the ukrainian orthodox church, as they say, the moscow protoriankhat pulled the priest out by force. and for a long time nothing was known about him, then after that it became known that the following was written by the patient, in particular, the ukrainian media that he seemed to be, well, alive and well, and they set there they set there, uh, this therodefense. uh, the man who wanted him became a priest there, but already in bartholomew's dog. i can't even say a word to this schismatic church. yes, in this schismatic community. i can't call it any other way . why am i showing this at all? this is what needs to be investigated. you keep asking me dmitry and how will the denotification be arranged? after all, i do

n’t understand the concept of a wide circle under this word, because for me this certification is a ship by those. who tortured prisoners of war for me denocification. this is, uh, judgment on those people who are so violent. not churches carry out, by the way, our churches with you. and here is vasyl's answer to you, how it happens, and i also told you then, i am convinced that 99% of this was done under pressure and fear of death. and now it's all going to pop up to you the word is a tragedy. this is a huge tragedy. i watched this video in the city boldly this event happened. that is, if earlier this tragedy sometimes also took place in western ukraine, then now, uh, it happened bolder, uh, these, especially during the orthodox fast, yes, where where do we fast to do such evil spirits. uh, attack the priest to kick out him. uh, thank god that he's alive, you know? dmitry

the topic is a difficult topic, because, uh, there are different situations, it also happens when the priest writes to me that you know. i say, uh, confess. from different sides and from the side of ukraine, as he says , and from the side of donbass, as he says, i confess, because people come to me parishioners, and i say when i listen, well done when i listen and forgive, the russian orthodox church. i never refused this, unlike raskolnikov, but you understand the difference that the priest of the russian orthodox church well, oops, but the moscow patriarchate speaks to me. there is no difference. yes, this is all believers, yes, and moreover, on the other hand, back is not enough, but on the other hand they represent a knife to the throat and speak from the river, i agree. feel not only that, even now , uh, despite the conflict that has been going on since the fourteenth year. all the same, the orthodox church, what is in the donbass, what is one in kiev, that is, clergymen and