last year, the question of the european union on the question of the draft of the draft treaty that ukraine proposes to sign not only to russia, but also to international guarantors, international guarantors is a long one, which means that this path is also not ours. respectively. what is now the national interest of ukraine number one number one he is the only one is the establishment of peace to agree to agree, so do not say ukrainians or fools that yes. elite is for sale. well, the ukrainians at her concert are ukrainians. masya want peace, another question ideological or propaganda. how do you imagine now come out look we have to lose the war. we must defeat him to speak, but he appoints a delegation with the task, frankly , already beyond the anguish. this is because otherwise dmitry this is a war is a war. let's talk, let's talk, 8. no, you've been shouting that it's war you've been shouting for 8

years, listen to war for 8 years, you understand, no need to blackmail us, wait, wait and sing, wait. i say wait. wait, do n't even try to blackmail us with what we have. zelensky is in a difficult position. he is standing in a rut. he cannot say, we are all your politicians, your politicians brought your people to death , and you want us to knock them down not to the people, but to politicians you defend this phrase. in fact, no one called war a war and no one declared war against anyone, yes, war is always a narrow corridor of possibilities. either listen. let's listen this is fundamentally important. what is the reason? why? national interests, as ukrainians once

again confirmed by the national representative. want listen no, you don't want to, and that's the problem, you want to listen? here, just shut up. listen again, i say war involves two options, either victory or surrender and no negotiation processes, so no one called the war they call it they call it they call it, but they didn’t announce it as far as the special operation, which is at least designated uh russian federation yes, it implies a wider corridor of opportunities, so there is a negotiation process, the question is different. can this power take advantage of this corridor of opportunity, judging by the way i listen to peskov's statement that russia is withdrawing its troops from kiev and chernihiv in the direction of direction. like a life of goodwill , and then bucha comes along, you know? here,

uh, does that tell me what? and the fact that either this was deliberately done in order to interrupt this negotiation process and continue this war, or it, well, we need to somehow treat this all differently, understanding that there is no no yesterday and said that we practically certain that it done, consciously it's strong. well, that's a strong statement. you can underestimate it again listen and say some explanations i'm not like that. i am waiting for the tram, but i will repeat it again, and for those who have appeared in ukraine. this is after jones's statement that the world is premature to give these peace agreements to think about it as the president of ukraine. yes, and the dogs were not elected. yes, i 'm asking you. what are the interests of the citizens of ukraine , the cars are in an illusion, into which this ukrainian disappeared that you understood, they

believe that we all win. you can understand it, now you can't understand it, because they teach history badly, they teach you understand it badly . learn history. and i'll explain to you why you think that we are winning, of course, vasily yes behave. lead yourself. pretty good, please. so, i will explain to you very simply, if we look, for example, nazi germany, it is necessary to look at it so those who were under control. well , hitler yes, even in the forty-fourth in the forty-fifth year, they believed, at least publicly, that they win. by the way, have you seen any protests in germany or support for the idea of ​​liberation under complete nazi control with the active gestapo and everything else, you didn’t see the truth. what did you observe then? within a month after the liberation, the vast majority

of the population in these cities became staunch lifelong anti-fascists. that's not to take into account this factor, it's impossible it's impossible, and by the way, vasily well, that's it, we clearly understand very well, and i spoke through pavlovich. here is an addition to the position minister of foreign affairs, the official representative of the russian ministry of foreign affairs, maria vladimirovna zakharova , said that russia proceeds from the fact that britain the united states uh, american countries are primarily american uh, we accuse them of complicity in the crime in the american media yes and this whole construction, because the crime is a staged constructed and implemented construction, in which everyone and zelensky western participated. media well, someone else who is behind the scenes of this theater advertising. i want another flying head

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russia for free without registration. this is a program, who is against on channel russia 1, we continue our discussion. i would like to shift the topic a little, so to speak, because we have fixed what we have more than once. well, kind of internal part, yes, of a big conflict, well, it concerns ukraine there. yes, we will call it internal, and there is a big one. yes, this is a large area, where an economic war has been declared for us, and not only war. there are a lot of interesting things going on there lately . i would like to discuss this. here is one moment of fundamental importance. i read today. uh that expert group deutsche bank. this rather serious expert group has published its

assessment. so, he believes that by the end of this year, initially 23. uh, the american economy will enter into deep recession, that is, there will be a fall in inflation. everything at the same time. yes, this is an estimate. bye. here is the very first one, but this is a serious assessment of a serious economic one. absolutely absolutely, well, everything that we are doing to them now in the economy, they obviously cannot cope with this. and these experts believe, for example, that well, they will have to raise all rates next year, and maybe even earlier, which means that servicing the public debt will become simply, well, practically unbearable for the united states, they are very afraid. they are here first, second, like a war declared to us yes , everyone is announcing sanctions. i'm honestly so far convinced that, of course, this complicates a lot for us, so to speak , and, probably, complicates. well, thank god we can get through this. so far, real damage. they are super-reactive to themselves, so to speak, bring. here are revised psaki. yesterday, only said the

following look. is to force them to make a choice. thus, russia has neither limited resources, given the crippling sanctions we have imposed, and they will be forced to choose between depleting the remaining valuable dollar reserves. before new revenue comes in or defaults, the biggest part of our goal is to deplete the resources putin has to continue his war against ukraine, obviously creating uncertainty and problems for their financial system is part of that. that's interesting, a terrible threat. it 's all been announced, i want to inform you that today russia for the first time paid its obligations under eurobonds in the amount of 649 million. these same euros in rubles. and the ministry of finance of russia said that those who do not want to

be left without anything at all. let him take it in rubles, because there will be nothing else and the default that she threatens will not happen either, because russia is ready to fulfill its obligations, blocks the fulfillment of obligations, the united states of america, go to them, who will be left without money. go to the dogs. here cyril is just your question. well, you know about the fact that the ministry of finance reported that she translated it. i'm not so optimistic yet. wouldn't talk like a shop he put money on the coin box, but will the buyers take this money? here's the question, so we 'll have to wait. there are months to understand, after all, the buyer will take these very 650 million e dollars, expressed in rubles or not, therefore, for the time being, it seems to me, we must not just watch there from around the corner to put on new clothes. here you are. what should i think of this buyer? yes? you understand, well, the position of the russian federation is much more important to me, and, frankly, i am glad in this position of my

state. she is very competent, you either take, and it's either go to the psaki. you see, well, it 's very simple, because it's not on. well, we are honestly ready to fulfill our obligations. you understand it very simply, before god there is not even any kind of court ready to eat waves, obligations, ready, everything is cool. that's about the sanctions. today , they already want to introduce the next package of the fifth package of sanctions against us, most likely, it will be introduced. now we are talking about poetry. it seems to me that ours foresaw this, he said insomnia homer is gay. i read the list of ships before middle. here is a list of ships against which sanctions will be introduced, indeed, you can’t read up to half there, and other sails. probably it would be necessary to replace in the current conditions with tight belts, which will have to drag out the question of who to whom or yes, i know, here are two facts that interested me for the last money, honestly, dear viewers. do not understand that in the order of the joke,

but it looks like the order of the joke. well, it reflects the reality of absolutely the first to run out of free electric blankets in britain, which is not handed out to those who can not heat anything at all. well, it's in a state of disrepair. these devils are over and they are at a complete loss. what to do about it, because well, the decision and the second news of today, the cost of manure in the united states has doubled. from 5:00 to 11:00 more than twice the dollars, because there is no fertilizer and not enough manure instead of fertilizer and coal has grown. they have sharply bailed out grew very sharply. so they can continue these about tightening their belts, to be honest, you read european news and such, as if understanding that they are already tightening their belts. but this is a frightening incompetence that the biden started about the dollar 200 rubles. about the statement of the psaki against the default. in

fact, it can lead to further erroneous american decisions, including on the ukrainian issue, because it, in fact, admits that the ukrainian crisis was created in order for such to come to russia right now. and if they miscalculate and it comes to them that they miscalculated, then further provocative actions may seem like bucha, trifles, and i wanted to tell spiridon about the struggle for minds. you know, here's to fight for the minds to e come in who has them. if there is a mind, it is worth fighting for it. i have a feeling that there is a propaganda machine that works. she works very much on a short term task and she works not for minds. she works on emotions emotions. they are just now very high quality, we are working, namely with a smart audience with people who understand what is happening, because today i looked with admiration and pleasure at a rally of thousands in bulgaria where the bulgarians clearly say, guys, we are against the government drawing us into the war in ukraine , supplying weapons there, guys. we are against

dragging us into an economic war with russia, and these smart people understand everything perfectly, so when we say that we are losing somewhere in the information war. we are losing in technologies and platforms, but absolutely not in the messages of the information flow. we are losing in the technology of producing deception. and you can ask and we want to win in production technology you are deceiving. it is very important, yes, what we are going to compete with, because there is. well, there is one. the question is, are you ready to compete? in crime i'm just yes, i mean smart smart people are always in the minority, you know? and fools have their own people everywhere, so fools, that if people, but there is such an expression that until the truth rises to hide and lie and put on your pants, a lie will go around the planet eight times already, but when the truth comes, lies, there is no place there will and uh if russia will continue its line, it will definitely

win for the simple reason that what i offer now to the europeans and what they europeans european leaders offer russia is a competition of patience, but who will endure for the sake of their country? i'm asking a question. who will endure, for the sake of their country, the hardships and hardships of the russian people, or , excuse me, the germans, who cannot walk. uh, let's see this. listen, here's the thing. see what joseph says he's doing a substitution of notions it's a pity that he says what we gave ukraine 1 billion euros for weapons, nothing compared to what we pay putin every time for energy. he does not even understand that what he pays putin for energy is used for the benefit of the europeans, and the fact that he gave a million. uh, a billion euros to ukraine is death.

nevertheless, he is proud of it, he argues absolutely, without thinking about the meaning, he produces white noise, which looks beautiful. e falls into the mainstream, but under itself has nothing but new suffering for ukrainians and already sorry me, and for the europeans too. and, by the way, the issue of rubles will become very sharp. so far they are there , so to speak, shouting, shouting, but hungary is already saying, yes, we are ready. we will consider the technical details of how to buy gas for rubles goes through that. and the stream, because the bulgarians thought of it so that there would be no bulgarian stream. they carefully so to speak, somewhere done. well, now they can say something else like that, well please let me know if they still do n't understand something. i wanted two aspects, uh, to cover the first one, so, uh, i wrote about it back in 2003. hmm, i first recognized it. uh, putin's strategy is a long-term strategy. here is the beginning of the zero

started. she is now in the news showing us her effectiveness. he then knew that sooner or later. we will meet with the west in clinches. now this is clear. yes. and what he did began to do more, then he built russia through pipelines or power transmission through various technological chains into the world system in such a way that it was impossible to tear it out without harming oneself. now revered by economic economists of the russian federation is built into 38 technological chains. where it is impossible to replace russia, and how are they now? that is, they, together with their feet and hands, will tear off russia, but they will do it. they wound up, they went on principle. and here's the second thing that's very important about exhaustion. we say this regularly, and let's see, uh, the consequences for us and for them, after all, when they talk about exhaustion for russia, we are talking about the fact that life will become worse for us and sooner or later. we will rebel. yes

, when they try to bring us to exhaustion, they lead to the fact that exhaustion occurs in them, and the mechanisms of interaction between the people and the authorities are with us. let's look at putin's rating and let's look at the rating of european american politicians. that is, the bidens will demolish them much earlier than our rolls. even i here yesterday can even say yesterday or the day before yesterday during the discussion. maybe i'm a little got excited. there was a dispute about macrons, but i see that the distance between them has narrowed even more. it's two and a half percent there now in the second round, if it doesn't come out, and even before the second round there will only be the first one. yes, in this sense , there is still time for the second round, she won’t eat it, but it won’t bite off. and there, you know what can happen , there may be a repetition of the american situation by falsifying this whole case. i don't rule this out. yes, you have to, well, falsify and

it will come out. this will be a very interesting case. you know, uh, the effect, but of the sanctions policy. it consists in inflicting maximum damage to the enemy and minimum damage to yourself. i just want to understand in this regard, and what the americans are doing wrong. they are doing very well. they vovyat, the sanctions policy against the russian federation, but europe bears the main damage from this sanctions policy. well, do you think they consider them, they consider them to be their economic opponents. actually around what it all revolves around the fact that rapprochement european union i mean germany and the russian federation, that's all we're discussing right now, the war in ukraine. that's all it's all about this divide and rule. they are now applying this sanctions policy, based on their interests and causing damage to both the russian federation and europe in general and germany in particular, also a weakened germany

will be all the more together with russia than a strong one. but it still has to, they still have to spin this wheel, because spiridon pavlovich says, and initially the idea that implemented because they are what they think. well, yes, america is also damaged. but we are like, this is experience, we compensate ourselves for the damage stolen in europe , but all the capital, all the technologies, everything that we can pull from europe to ourselves and this will compensate us, you understand? i came up with than almost always. i agree 100%, and here i agree, but this is history. she works very short. understand when they suck will start. or rather, seriously suck from europe, and when do you understand the layman? it's one thing to sell ukraine and say, well, you have to a little bit here, let's lower it by a degree, there 's something else. and when they really feel it, oh-oh-oh, there, this is a layman, a burger who felt it and will know exactly who is to

blame for this, they will sell for a long time that it is putin 's fault. they can't. eh, there will definitely be brains turned, and then u understand, also uh, this global world that they created. well, you pay attention, but what they are doing now, and with russia and so on, hits them too. well, with the same oil to take. look already why they uncovered their e, nz and nothing happened, but they didn’t happen. for the price, it's annoying. well, what was i talking about? they did it on purpose. now we have not reacted from the market for millions , the value has slightly fallen there, and then it has risen again to the values ​​that it was. uh, very serious economic and image blows, and so on, and there will be a lot of such chains. and if we add relations with china here, and they have an economic war there,

when they say they can bring economic damage to china yes, but they won’t inflict themselves at all at the moment when china realizes that everything is yes, that the americans destroyed these systems, on which china could receive its share of the profit, that this system ended, then china will have completely different solutions. maybe there is still an illusion that this process is needed somehow. well , at least slow down the destruction. i don't think i noticed. by the way, here are my thoughts. you understand here. you show that they are afraid. so they threw oil from the reserves, it didn’t affect anything. and in may, if i'm not mistaken, they should stop receiving our oil. they seem to have made that decision. yes, if it has not already been abandoned, then when they remove our oil from the market, there will be an increase in prices and an increase in inflation. yes, i have another suggestion. their manure has grown in quality, well, it has grown. yes, the

price of manure is growing. we can in rubles. yes, oh, they wrote that they are not critical for them, this very import. yes from russia fertilizer is good disclosure, we will not break your hands for rubles. buy, buy, send, lower the price of air in this way. it seems to me that here the time has come to make the same decision exclusively for fertilizer in america as for gas for e europe yes, of course, just three words. you know i'm small. economists i don’t want to pretend to be, although well, it’s clear that they read something there listen to smart people and so on, but you know, even if i didn’t understand anything at all about what was happening, according to the level of hysteria that them that's just the level of hysteria enough to see. i turn on cnn, you may not even know the english word. i still understand something to god, but it’s possible not to know the language, it’s clear that as soon as it comes to the russian economy, especially

relations with china and so on. this is hysteria, the most real and just the guys. uh, they don't really understand what's going on, they don't understand. why have they introduced almost all possible sanctions. and worse for them. and yes, now they are not even talking about themselves, but russia has somehow not collapsed, understand? they didn’t take to the streets, i don’t know there, they don’t eat up the last hedgehogs, what there are beavers who are there, how in the nineties finn will scroll once and, but it seems to me that yes, i want to, i want to remind. you don't need this. here. i’ll ask you these rallies, yes, it’s not so much time to arrange more, we were told biden himself said, let’s see what they will have in a month, two have passed. what did obama say? what did obama say? no need. here are these. yes, probably something will not need to do anything. yet again. i say again that you don't have to cook. but just here

implementation of this strategy. she is very lame. if you are all so united around this strategy. what do we have? well, yes, gas, we have now learned how to sell in rubles. yes, we sell oil. now turn off transponders. beacons, ships go somewhere incomprehensibly, the americans do not see. where are our oil ships going? they are safely unloading in southeast asia, but with the same coal, it is not clear yet, because well, we have india, where lavrov flew india is ready. so we're not ready. we have a reconstruction. mom is coming 10 years. three trillion dollars have been invested so far, we are listening to when there will be a second branch of the woman reconstruction, and the speed is 8 km / h. that's very interesting, very interesting. look at all the liberal press in recent years on two points on the strength of siberia and on the reconstruction of a woman, all the liberal hysteria with the fact that this is senselessly injected money, that it will do nothing there. it's just to plunder and we don't need this bank 300 times, by the way, the first time. you heard this back in

perestroika, as soon as the bam was completed for the first time yes, in in soviet times, the hysteria of perestroika and criticism of the soviet project was that the soviet government was senselessly burying people's money in the bank and the youth of people. they died in the bath. you're young. you don’t remember, and we bend and remember and sasha at that time, how it was written on the flags of perestroika and our deceived people also fought in hysterics and they said, well, really. what for us this bam cursed party means us. this obama i don't have a vcr and a can of beer because of the bam the arctic and so on, it's time to finish building and do the coal ball. thank you, thank you, kirill, i now understand that part of the liberal public is strongly in favor of completing the construction of the bam to modernize the trans-siberian. uh, launch the power of siberia 2, and here. we are

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