in the emotional state of people, in which they are now, they do not give them the opportunity to think rationally at all. here in those events in the thick of which they turned out to be at the moment. i think it's pointless to deal with them at all now. any kind of dialogue or sport about this is necessary for time to pass. i just remember the period when it happened in the donbass and with me personally. yes, when it flew into your house, there were three or three rockets. yes, it destroyed it there, almost killed your family and friends overwhelmed with emotions. so impossible impossible to think. just rational. you understand this period. it will still have to be experienced. i think where the war has already ended ended. it's not only there the territory of donbass i think in kherson there will no longer be an active phase of hostilities. uh, you know, in part of the zaporozhye region, it will no longer be. e combat operations slowly but surely, anyway, a rethinking of this situation will come and sooner or later those questions, like those i said at the beginning, will still be asked. why did this war happen and who is to blame for what it is

happened in ukraine, sooner or later, these questions will become consistent on your programs, including talking about the fact that we have reached a dead end. here we have reached a dead end and a way out of this dead end. only there is an entrance there, and we will still return to that 2014 year, and all the same, those people who, uh, did it, then in 2014, sooner or later, they will still bear responsibility. otherwise, it's all in vain, if these people are not held accountable, it's all in vain. everyone should have a personal responsibility from an official to a ukrainian politician for certain decisions made on time or not taken at one time for decisions that led to such tragic consequences and the situation in which ukraine found itself yes, i wanted to return to the plot, in fact, very it is symbolic that today, april 12, cosmonautics day, the president made an important statement precisely at the cosmodrome in the east, because on april 12 and gagarin's flight is the apogee of the human scientific and technical thought of

the soviet union, which also turned out to be after churchill's fulton speech after the threats of the united states when they blew up hiroshima and nagasaki we created rocket nuclei in a short time, in fact, in the same sances. alexander let's go. you will continue. well, we’ll just show here, firstly, because really for all our people and not only the people living in the russian federation but for so many who live outside the russian federation this is the greatest holiday and the greatest achievement of that the same of our multinational people, so let's uh, let's see, firstly, the plot dedicated to this holiday. memories and memories of president putin personally about this, not as he remembers it from childhood, i uploaded one. as you can hear me, i will broadcast the commands to you, so i was somewhat

delayed at the same time. ignition let's go. i didn’t understand what was happening, so to speak, in full , but i saw that something

grandiose unusual happened, people who didn’t know each other, strangers, hugged and kissed there. and since it really was, it also looks like victory day, because for me for a child 9 years old was it is clear that something unusual has happened. that's because exactly. uh, probably, did not imagine what space is, what is the exit of a person in uh, well, for the first time in history, it was completely obvious that a grandiose event had occurred, connected with the enormous achievements of our country. here is pride. yes, grief for a 9-year-old child is pride for the country. she was, she was in the air, everything was in the air, so er, it was such a vivid event that i really remembered. that's what happened. and, of course, all this was broadcast

by the media on television. teachers, even children, i'm not talking about adults who rejoiced in the truest sense of the word, the country of no one, so to speak, the whole world. further, alexander, i just say that these are the memories. it was just the apogee. this is the scientific and technical idea that the soviet union created after the great, hardest great patriotic war, which we won a convincing victory. and then, when we they threatened, uh, with a nuclear bomb, the americans threatened us in the same way with fleets, most likely, mr. churchill, when we were in fact. uh, the western world also had such an economic one, including trying, like she blockade the soviet union, but he didn’t just set it up. it's not just a shot. he created he was the first in all endeavors to create a missile nuclear shield. the first man flew into space. and

this was indeed the example that we must take today in these most difficult social and implement the economic program. yah, probably the most terrible lesson of the last decade. this is what, thanks to a society that has won democracy, is consumption. the boys stopped dreaming about the stars, they left them dreaming about changing their gender. yes, this is the whole whole sociocultural trend. this is really, unfortunately, unfortunately, it’s good that we at least not let all of our youth go, and it’s good that our youth turned out to be still not so malleable, although we partially received it, but fish for questions. who is yuri gagarin, not all young people can answer. and here is some there is a singer who is a former liver or i do not know the thirty-sixth gender, know them all. this is unfortunately a problem. why did i say this? because this is a problem the problem is that this task was solved purposefully, because it is

because the current world not only our liberal elites can exist only in a society atomized in a consumer society in a society sharpened by a qualified consumer. as one of our chi said. and they are under the hero a hero who sacrifices something for the sake of the future his or his country or family, he is alien to this culture, which i emphasize once again diligently implanted. well, you know, i would say more here. yes, now maxim, i will give you the floor. i would say here, the next thing is that this is one of the lines, the confrontation and the rose line of identification between us and them, and from my point of view, it’s very correct yes, because starting from those changes to the constitution that are at the highest level, we oppose this and continuing, by the way, the line that our heroism and our heroes, yes, and there in syria and in the

fight against terrorism. and now, during a special operation in ukraine, this, of course, is an unacceptable antagonism for the west. well, one of their subjects. well, not love for us, and sometimes even hatred. yes, i sympathize with colleagues. in general, everyone has their own social circle. i somehow did not come across a single guy who would dream of a change, we do not have a gene. but in the west, for sure, yes, according to the parents, the whole family drama with a colleague said, well then, okay, then, then, no luck to someone in the west. and as for the previous performances. i listen carefully to spiridon. i would very much like to agree with him, in fact, that, but the time will come when they will be in ukraine. well, almost to call to account those who stood for 2014, but i'm afraid this will not happen. this is too optimistic way of looking at things. a and uh, like this, ukrainians calmly without emotions. not very

soon yet. they will be able to look at the situation. now they are in the logic of war. now they are resisting furiously , as we see, therefore, in the foreseeable this is what awaits us in our future, and then, as a result, two societies that do not love each other very much will still be. negotiate some kind of peace not on maximalist terms, of this or that country, for example, as was the case with finland after the second world war. finn, after all, was not very loved by us, and even until now this is manifested in some tough deeds, statements of sanctions. now it is, but it appears, but they are forced to reckon with reality, that there is a big huge powerful one for russia then. it was the soviet union you can’t get away, but obviously here are some parameters of the future coexistence absolutely without love absolutely without revising the previous political system without planting who those who arranged the maidan but agree on some, but ways of peaceful existence. we

will have to, but without the a happening there. here is such a sweep and removed or put in jail for those who did not, i would like the front to be as you say, but i know that it will not be necessary to stand on our soil on the ground, here. they're in clouds it's easier sometimes to put up with reality. i'm just so lighter, no, absolutely not easier. but i just think that this is the option that you are talking about, then let 's forget this, let's leave it. we will not remember this and everything will be fine. let's agree on something. this option is absolutely impossible. after everything that happened in ukraine, he is impossible by definition. he was possible those events. i understand that there is a subject for dispute. by the way, you understand, you know the future, and very definite writing. now you

have said this. here, i don't know, i'm being modest. remember to be quiet with your point of view. by the way, i would like to be wrong, but let's see how it goes. i'm afraid that i'm not mistaken, in fact, what i predict is not so. we make peace, we agree one way or another, we agree one way or another, this is nothing at all, because from what the president said, and this is what i think, you just need to understand who we are, you say, we are still, yes who are we is russian the federation of russia, in which i, unlike you , will be transferred to live all my life. i do not agree ukraine is some other country. we are maxim. to be honest, i have to make a remark to you publicly, because pavlovich lives on speed. e. in moscow, it is connected with the threat to his life personally and to his family. and when and when you are not ours, what i mean by pronoun. we understand in the mind of my

country against no need to wind up. i understand you very well. i'm better on my own, so i think this inappropriate and dishonorable person is here because of the threat. his life is direct and when you present it to him, this is not unusual from my point of view. i understand by pronoun. we are fine. yes , absolutely normal, of course. and that they are all right, the question arose, you are talking about the consensus between that and whom between part of ukraine e, eastern and western, or is it a consensus between russia and ukraine, i asked who we are, who should sit down to do this. i'm that's all, you conveyed all the respect, i explain to me there is no double understanding. we are russia, russians. i am russian 100%. that's it. i am absolutely myself with

ukraine not with any commandment from the east, especially when we don’t give us recipes on how to negotiate, it’s clear and this is all my country. yes it is now. i’ll just explain for a second, because i also have a limit for this word and understanding, do you understand? i am for agreements , everyone can say here, each of you that all these years. for example, i say, i advocated rigidly for the preservation of the minsk agreements for as long as it will be, perhaps publicly i am often for this, uh, well, there were criticized and there were tougher situations. but i thought that as long as it would be possible to keep, probably, at some point, and the president openly said this, at some point it became impossible, but eight years were before that, therefore , from this position of my eight years, i will also say what i heard today from the president in his words. you see, the neo-nazism that was

voiced there today is not a joke or a metaphor. not a joke or a metaphor. and if it will be some kind of ukraine in which do you think no one will be judged and neo-nazism will remain there, the main thing is one of the main goals of eliminating the threat to the russian federation in this well, this goal will not be achieved, therefore the president does not accidentally talk about saving the people of donbass and eradication. threats to our country neo-nazism is an absolutely real threat. therefore, i was rooted in the forty-fourth year, ending no, maxim we were not looking for anything there. we have eradicated everything. i would cite another threat to chechnya as an example. no, i'm exactly the same as i heard from you, you know that you understand at forty in the fourth year from korea was eradicated in the thirty- ninth era. maybe they're in forty-

four. i would now i would not plunge into it now, i would not plunge into it now, because on what fundamental basis. will negotiations be possible and with whom they will be possible, i, for example, don’t know, unlike you, because i don’t know either, yes, well, you understand correctly that i express my opinion, why, please, i don’t embarrassment, not someone assented. i do not forbid you to express your opinion only when we let's move on to personality. this is what i'm pointing out to you. i ask you about the plot dmitry, well, uh, i know what the twelfth of april is. i lived i was born. i am later in that correct soviet time, and here, by the way, last year, my nine-year-old son. i led the museum of cosmonautics here in moscow, we looked. well , we looked at everything that there are satellites. uh, rocket equipment and so on, and before the move, the

astronautics museum. there are monuments there. and uh the person who shows, that is koroleva yes, who is the general designer, and so on, a scientist, and yes, and my son asks me, and then he says, but koroleva where does he come from? i say, well, he we all said the soviet union and that one, but i know that he is a donor. he is from ukraine. i say, yes, he is from ukraine. why do you say dad? eh, what is it soviet - because when we all lived then in those days, here i lived, uh, i am in ukraine, but i am soviet, he is also soviet, someone russian , someone russian. well, we were all soviet. yes cool i say, then we flew into space, he asks me a question. dad, where is the soviet union now? that's the question that i still can't give my son an answer. i answer him. what do i need, there are holidays and holidays there are parts of ukrainians who remember this and i am trying to pass it on to my son. and now about the president's words. putin, of course. well, i'll tell you, for me. these are heavy words, very

heavy words, when there is no organization between them. and those who were at the very beginning will tell you which one i had. well, how do you say, i'll give out my emotion now. come on then president russia talks about protecting donbass for me. it was understandable. the operation is also clear. military conflict, too, of course. now he is talking about the rootlessness of neo-nazism, which is a threat to russia, saying, yes, but you understand what the spark of neo-nazism is, on what territory this action will take place, and from putin’s words, i understand that this will take place on the entire territory of ukraine , you know, uh uh, i understand you. you will continue. i will return your word. i would not start such discussions here, just what was said is not necessary hear less and more. that's what was said, neither does nazi ukraine pose a threat to us, so this threat must be eliminated. how to wait. for this, a special

operation is carried out. that's what it's for. now there will be one of the stages of this operation. after it, let's see the goal does not go anywhere. the goal is essential. i would like to say my opinion, i won't, because it turns out that i don't want to interpret putin's words. see what i want to say about today's ukraine today , he tells me from the finances of ukraine that we have a very bad situation in ukraine. we are in a very bad position, because we have to break our balance sheet somewhere around 2.5 two and seventy billion dollars. but we will end april at about $5 or six million, and we still have a payment to international organizations of about $5.5 billion, the way we end this month. what am i talking about when we are talking about politics here, when we are talking about a military operation, and i am talking about what ukraine will survive this month. for now, no one wait,

while maxim no one even talks about the need for delays, and not about the fact that they will write off. and if i apologize, if we have such a hole in the budget today, i am not happy about this, i am upset. so what ukraine are we talking about then, that’s right, which clinic is the right question, whose in ukraine we were talking about, because i argued from the very beginning that your masters will kill your ukraine , they will kill and we won’t just talk to anyone, you understand, they will bring it to this states. we have a huge hole in the budget, so what are we talking about, i don't know what subject to talk about. she asks the lynn state in a civilian way, while saying, they say to fight until the thirty-fifth year, yes, so the military and the economy go ahead and zelensky, in his e speech yesterday, also, in general, also spoke about this, but i will start since the day of cosmonautics

i want too. join the congratulations to our viewers and everyone, since the image of space is really the image of yuri gagarin along with victory day became one of the most important, rallying factors of our society and took the most important place in the policy of historical memory in russia, and this is true. so no one what is called a liberal no one will spit on gagarin will not spit. the soviet space heritage is a well- deserved recognized fact, what alexandrovich is about. by the way, about the ukrainian scientist korolev, i was in the french aviation museum in bourges 10 years ago, so there was a stand of the ukrainian scientist korolev there even before the fourteenth year. everything was clearly understood there. and as for the hmm world, yes, but it is clear that the path to it will be difficult. it is clear that they are different. yes , and there is only one information flow that we are about to make peace, then again rollback e. what conditions

are the limits of compromise the limits of the possible and so on here i am, but i want to say one thing that it’s clear that how the west and ukraine perceive putin’s words e, it’s clear here and god is with them, and we are talking about our nuances. i keep talking about our inside russian nuances. after all, when at the beginning of march, a came out, uh, a preliminary decision this international court in the hague, ukraine filed a lawsuit, then our embassy, ​​e.g. in holland, refused to participate there, and rightly so, probably refused, but sent a written paper to the court and the court. it indicated in its decision that russia was guided not by questions of genocide, but by questions of self-defense. yes, indeed , president putin said something about genocide, but this is not the main thing, this is a paper from the russian embassy in amsterdam. so who is spoiling the unified position of the president ? the west or are we ourselves?

you have to deal with paper. i'm talking about the paper is a court decision. and the court says, well, i can’t say anything about the paper, because i have n’t seen it. it will be necessary to look. here, but in this sense, you understand, uh, genocide and genocide of the genocide of russians in the donbass and donbass go militarization and the salvation of these russians, all this remains. and if someone has a bad spam, then the president does not do random things. he is specially on the day of cosmonautics. once again i spoke it all out and deciphered it in great detail so that no one suffered memory now advertising. still top news. she became the catalyst for the complete transformation of the world, we are witnessing this transformation. and we have something to say about this

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the vostochny cosmodrome is also significant in that it was a meeting between the two presidents of belarus and russia. in general, lukashenka said today, i just read it in the tape. so this is a demonstration of a special level of trust that now exists. i absolutely agree with this. and president lukashenko also spoke about cooperation and about who is like russia, belarus, among themselves. let's get a look. thank you for inviting us, uh, to participate in this construction. we will definitely straight your suggestion. we will offer you interesting options. i am very pleased that you are engaged here not only in the construction of these skyscrapers of 15-20 floors and 10, but also in low-rise buildings. it's one thing for people to live on the second floor, and another thing to live in a three-story two-story house. these people

deserve it. this is a good decision of yours, we can also offer a number of options in this regard. you are on belarusians. you can count. thank you very much. know that in any situation that would not develop, you are convinced of this. well, the russians must be convinced that we will always nearby, no matter how the situation develops and no one needs to think that russia is really so huge. maybe half a day you need to fly from one region to another region, belarus is smaller and but they did not do enough in this, the spool is a gift. we have what to put on the bowl of vast russia, we will set a little time for us. thank you. it's definitely a little spool. yes, dear. this is absolutely fair and there is belarus what to put on the general scales for in this difficult situation, everything is accurate and correct. and here is what else lukashenka said regarding e-sanctions

when you should expect builders from belarus to the cosmodrome alexander do not rust thanks and say sanctions, and i say to dmitry, you know, here is the feeling. there are no sanctions, everything is ours. everything is done on our own, that we are soaring here from these sanctions, that we will not build houses. we'll do everything, we need a little time, therefore, for this, the president invited me to look back and that's it. clear. it is especially noticeable at the baikonur cosmodrome. uh, eastern especially noticeable is the senselessness of the sanctions. yes, i think there are no experts in this studio experts in predicting the future. well , for sure there are analysts here who can at

least analyze. eh, everything that has already happened to us. here, i’m looking at lukashenka now, i literally recently was in belarus and i’m thinking to myself, but if what was started in belarus now, if it were possible to complete it, what would it be today, belarus where would belarus be if there were cities, a village, probably, well, an intelligent person can understand this or not, that this country would burn in exactly the same way, as they say, not ukraine well, these are obvious things and do not admit it. well, that would be stupid. of course, you can tell a liberal. yes? no, well, that you are the people who today in the west claimed the power of belarus. they are democrats, it's not that there is this dictator and they would not. they would never go for it. they would go, because they were never , uh, supported by their own people.