more victims, they are filming this same bloodthirsty continuation of the servant of the people, they need victims to put the arrest officer lying for this, and zelensky is intimidating the entire elite that is inside, because the mood there is also different. it's exactly the same as the marines. i'm sure there is a lot of mood in the elite of people who are adequate, including in the army, but they need to be shown what will happen to you , but the surrender of the marines. well, or more than a thousand people there are different. yes, there are border guards and so on. i want to tell you that the only the person who officially answered this question. it was mrs. veroshchuk, and the vice prime minister, which we have or we have information that more than a thousand e, ukrainian marines, have surrendered russian citizenship. it's fake. it's fake. it cannot be trusted. it's just fake. no, she still said an argument. there was an ironclad argument. she said we asked our military. he asks, yes, you

see, we read the same way, because i look well , i admit. when i say such things, i never look, it never means what she will say. i don't i look anyone in the eye. i am ashamed when a state official of this level is nothing of the kind, she just talks nonsense, moreover, dmitry when information appeared about the surrender of prisoners to surrender. she appeared a few days ago alone, then the second. i'm texting. i have a lot of buddies there from work acquaintances yesterday. a friend wrote to me. you know that dmitrievich do not write to me anymore and i will not write to you anything about what is at stake. and the brother and sister brother lives in one district of kiev, the composition of another level of kiev and brother asked his sister. listen to how your life there something rumbled. she says. yes, not everything is fine with me, nothing was loud, nothing exploded. he says, well, they don't say it exploded. no, nothing to me, without burrowing. doesn't meet the next day. she showed him on the phone. the explosion tells, but says, if i

tell you something on the phone or, god forbid, handed over the photo to me, there will be claims, they will come to me to look for, to whom you are hostile, you pass on information. why did i draw this? because uh, uh, the battle is the battle that is now in the donbass, this is a large-scale battle that says zelensky, who speaks a lot, who speaks foreigners, and americans are british to me. here comes the battle of donbass and 62,000 or ninety thousand armed forces of ukraine can either win or lose. and they have an option, they have an option to get out of surrender, but how to get out of publishing, how if you imagine the situation in the state of ukraine to a citizen that i have, that's some commander or commander said, i give up, what will happen to him, what will happen to him tomorrow? what will not happen tomorrow and if he makes such a decision and i really, but i don’t know, i ask mr.

zelensky that he himself, as the supreme head of the commander, show courage and decide that it’s better to go out, surrender, get out of the encirclement and save lives . let it be 60,000 will be 50,000 military ukraine why because, if he continues to continue, he will zelensky continue to trade what he traded before until now, no one in the studio understands with emotions that when zelensky showed a photo of medvedchuk, he traded emotions and the whole millions of ukrainian citizens. hooray victory it was great. i'm sorry. well, i guess i'm some kind of crazy, because i don't think it's some kind. victory listen i can treat differently is very important. thanks to you, he told the same citizen, and where he needed to touch on the fundamental problem, but in the state of ukrainian society. and when we say yes that society is very strong nazified. you are now confirming this,

because you rejoice at such a fact and feel it as a significant victory. by the way, you know what lies behind this, that very superiority, that very superiority. by the way, look at how others wrote about this there, like, uh, who wrote avakov there, yes, what is it called medvedchuk, what is it called? slow? this is exactly what it is. i will tell you. i am a higher race. but this insignificance we took this insignificance. you see, a large number of people agree with this. you are right. this is the most terrible thing, because the technology has been built all these years, that they were driven, driven, driven into this funnel and driven. i’m answering vasily’s question about what will happen to them at rubezhnoye a few weeks, there and back, where there are several units, in which, as a commander , he started seething there, but that, well,

wait, it’s useless to be here, but in general everyone will fall under distribution of significant superior forces, so you can get out of here, all the more they offer where and the national battalions that were there or the right sector, which were inside , they pulled out four commanders and simply shot them in public , they simply shot them, that is, they took power already for two armed units, like sous, that are located there, a criminal regime reigns there. there is a mutual responsibility, there is a massive use of drugs. that is, there the sectarian atmosphere absolutely dominates it. here, at least, then, and here are the units that i know about, and about which our fighters are right here directly, she is the front line when and here is dmitry you are saying absolutely the right things, yes, that is, fundamentally, this is the situation with medvedchuk. i have a complicated relationship with medvedchuk in all the republics, because the consequences are a physical issue, of course, this is a political issue, but there is a question here, again , not only to ukrainian citizens whose sorry they wanted to sneeze at all on all norms. but

what about european strategic partners? wait, and property is inviolable, which means that human rights have the right to a court. what court well wait. what state is ready to give its citizen any. whatever it is, the state can punish its citizen, again by way, and some kind of, well, fair trial of a fair trial is international law. this is a humanitarian right, on which the whole system of the organization of europe is based, which ukraine is going on. and what is happening with ukraine itself? wait, look at one photo of this person. we see a person, which means that, as if i saw him, he lost at least a kilogram. 10-15, that is, a real person sits for a month, really. here is what is called in the basement a man is dressed in ukrainian camouflage, fresh, that is, futafu, then this is the clothes in which he was taken away. she has simply fallen into disrepair. she already has a non-marketable appearance, he was simply stupidly dressed there, they changed clothes. look into his eyes. he has a glassy look. that is, i do not exclude that he is generally under chemistry, yes, that is, this is a real mockery of a political opponent. look at a person

, you can pay attention to the forehead, by the way, here are two photographs that zelensky gave there, blackened hair up and a clean forehead. and here they are specially lowered down. this is how it is from the first photo of zelensky and the second is the sbu in the region are specially trained down in order to hide the bruises there, but on the forehead citizens to exchange them for someone dictator who is carrying out the nationalization of property on its territory. that is who they like to date, who they reach out to hand, that is, they are from the same map, that is, they are from the same flock, that is, they treat their inhabitants in the same way, that is, europeans, yes, that is, look who you support. here's your here's your aspiration, where are you going, huh? in fact , what rodion says was trampled on by the europeans, they forgot international law. they are quite about his existence just like the whole collective smell. we need to understand we are dealing with an

imperial lie. what our president was talking about, respectively, to be surprised at all this wonderful pictures in quotation marks are absolutely not worth it. uh, we will deal in the future with exactly the same frantic propaganda against everything russian against everything russian and this propaganda will only intensify the war of pictures will continue why there is a task to demonize russia the task must be solved in any way this will be done by our european partners in quotation marks partners. this will be done by many others. the demonization of russia has become the norm, a departure from international law. what right? ownership about what are we talking about all these beautiful words that existed ended their existence the west, in fact, came to the destructive policy of the destructive policy of the very empire of lies, which is fundamentally important here, our president said yesterday that the goals of russia will be achieved those goals that were originally set outside depending on

what pictures show the kiev regime. west goals will be achieved is another issue that is very important here arises, and we need to work on the minds. and we need to work on the pictures. if here, wait, this is important here. i hear this all the time, and, frankly, i have such a strong irritation when we start, well , somehow scratching ourselves then getting excited from this. you know, here are two pictures, two pictures, let's see they are combined into one. and i mean the grandmother with the red soviet flag , and here is the one who cut with a sickle in the staged video. an actor's throat, and here it seems to me, you understand, the essence of the issue is captured, because the grandmother is real. grandma acted in absolutely living situation, showing genuine real courage, realizing that they created a provocation for her on purpose, they created a provocation. she is her age. how old is she there? well, and a lot,

probably under 80, she understood all this and in a real situation, facing the threat of the armed, those who kill the red banner for this. she did what she did and kept honor and dignity. this picture is a real absolutely real turbulent situation. and in this now i do not argue. i'm just so that everyone understands, and this is her strength, which cannot be to overcome, and on the other hand, a staged video clip created according to isis patterns, which promotes sadism and cruelty. that's all the confrontation in the information war, and here are two approaches to information to the situation in this picture, if we are dealing with actually isis methods, then this should be treated this way. and the truth must be teeth. we have to show demonstrate very hard to promote in all possible and impossible ways,

if there are any pictures with which we have the thing is, if there are pictures of actual terrorists, we are dealing with terrorism. moreover, we are already dealing at the international level with respect to everything russian. so, regardless of anything, we need to include these very teeth and everything is clear with them. and so to speak, to promote what we consider necessary, we can do it, and it is at the international level. to do this, it is simply necessary to include various mechanisms, including, without inspiring with the methods used by our western colleagues, which methods we should not to be inspired to lie. we just need to be true. to you, if we are throwing the truth, then this truth should be attacking the question. yes, this is reasoning, i tell you again, this is an offensive, truth. she did very much agree. imagine absolutely. what is this picture and what? this is the grandmother what effect? she produced in the same china absolutely. well, you need to

understand this woman. yes, there are people in the uh, west, who hide almost the same way as in ukraine in vor, whose parents were italian or french communists? well, by the way, in in france, up to fifty percent of the population believes that the position of russia may well be justified and understandable to them. therefore, the macron, like this, winds around, all this diverges in social networks and telegrams, and in the west, people hide each other. this is shown and not yet in such horror as in ukraine, well, the fact is that the west will come to the ukrainian state. we'll break for a commercial and then we'll continue on this very important topic. watch today a special edition of the program 60 minutes all the latest news about the situation in ukraine and in the world. we go live right after the spring, don't miss 60 minutes. today 17:30 on the channel, russia only in

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only on the russia channel on the russia 1 channel, we continue our discussion. here we came out just uh in our previous conversation on the european situation. this is the one i am sure that they will face the same thing that america is pushing them into ukraine. by the way, i also realized that this is nato, and only how, for example, sweden, finland, are now dispersing the topic. do they join us in nato i can say so you know between by the way, it seems to me that this means is needed not just for the occupation of the euro. but at the same time it becomes a means of its nazification. well, yesterday is yesterday. and what did the president of russia say, as it seems to me, about europe and european leaders on this occasion. you know that it has been noticeable for a long time. i think that

representatives of the media see this very well. it 's just indecent to talk about it. that's the kind of consolidation it is connected with. with an insulting humiliating position, europe in relation to its sovereign united states, remember somehow i won’t talk about one. now the name of one of the former prime ministers of great britain has been written by its own press. uh, i used to call him the poodle of the president of the united states. well, isn't it a shame, but in fact, almost all the leaders of european states are in the same offensive situation in life, but i can’t say about it. well, it's embarrassing to talk about it, but here it is. aggression from russia, a single common enemy, it is very convenient here to unite and serve the interests of the united states and always

served, and now you can do it with an open visor, making decisions that benefit the connected pants, including in the field of the economy. well, explaining this as a necessity, e fight back. aggression, that's what, in my opinion, is really happening now, but the public of these countries especially faced, faced with the problems that are created in the course. uh, in the course of carrying out such a political line. oh yes, such a general anti-russian hysteria, it makes itself felt, but time will leave everything in its place. i assure you when people face rising, gasoline food prices on rising inflation, an unprecedented rise in inflation is unprecedented, this will be reflected in domestic political processes.

they really wanted everything that happens to be reflected in the internal political processes of the russian federation, they always miscalculate. i do not understand that in difficult conditions the russian people always unite the russian people. they will see it. and they have problems, inevitably very precise words. actually problems. they have the inevitable from the word moreover, we can say that today europe is in a subordinate state. she tended to become separate, but the center of power of the modern world of order. however, she preferred to be a colony, part of this near-anal policy of the united states of america and in fact what we see in relation. eh, finland sweden is all the pressure, then such a decrepit one. e sovereign, who is trying to force through the knee to break europe and that they were a part. don't have to. which knee is

bent it fell down. well, i don’t agree with what you are describing, it’s just a matter of how rotten everything is. and so they worked on it for a long enough time that it was so rotten and was a part. systems and at the same time, europe loses its sovereignty, and becomes the simplest colony, while it is necessary to be this very new center of power. this is well understood. in the east. this is not understood in the west. uh, east. eh yes, the americans are conducting exercises in relation there and e with japan with south korea a and their nuclear the ship was sent there, but in fact the east understands that it is impossible to be part of the united states of america today as part of us policy . this is counterproductive, this leads to a deterioration in the standard of living of its population. europe has lost, the understanding that was dedicated to europe. i cannot help but react with er, it is necessary. here in the

previous part. uh, we were talking about e in this one. information warfare psychological warfare and so on you know, well, firstly, the conditions are now such that we specifically let's face it we can break through information on their field, well, spontaneously, sporadically and very cleared everything there, right? and even, uh, there times there - it seemed, while all this is yes, while i agree. for now, this is what i wanted to say. you understand what's the matter. well , first of all, it's true, it can always be, these are very lofty words now and so grandiloquent, but the truth, it is always stronger than a lie. i am absolutely sure of this and history. this one always proves i can, as a historian say, and another one too, as a historian i can say that history is written by the winners. and if we will win, and i don’t that i hope i

believe in it sacredly, then this story, including everything we are talking about now and what they are doing now. that's when. we will talk about this with them , we will definitely talk about it, and this conversation will be deprived. here are those curtseys people that we allowed in our time in relation to the same eastern europe to the czechs, slovaks. yes, there to the croats and others, uh, who took part in the second world war against us. we know it all there, uh, very varnished this whole story and towards the ukrainians. especially the westerners, by the way, will also now in no case be allowed to make this mistake. here. i want like a professional professional. we are related to the medica to some yes, here's an explanation. so you talked about how this might work. here i am ready to offer a specific strategy, how can this work? just not just some pictures or some clips. and

you need a clear one. here is the strategic one. uh, let's say the information program under a like this. how much us or want a slogan? yes, and the integration of ukraine into europe what does this mean? it's already started now. this is the chemical reaction. you and i got carried away with discussions about european elites, but look now, after all, in fact, what they said, let's. we will now open up the opportunity for ukraine to somehow, so to speak, join europe, now these refugees are pouring in, i'm sure each of you gets it. i also receive these videos from germany, how they behave, it will take some more time, quite a bit and europe will understand, what she got herself into with ukraine, it is people who will understand, you understand, and people will put more and more pressure on the elites to ask what he was poisoning us with when they see, uh, the crowds are not just boors, but carriers and aggressive nationalist problems. what will unfold faster the people's understanding or the mechanism under the pressure of this

people's understanding? i'm betting on the suppression mechanism of a very big story. fuck dima look here in greece now they were dispersing people who did not want to send. just a weapon there, so the greek was dispersed. well, it means already now there are people who do not believe in it just as much as they like. you know, next time they won’t fix the revision and those people will not just be dispersed, but they will be beaten up, they will be thoroughly imprisoned and they will say that anyone who comes out next will be even worse. here it will be in greece, germany, france and all other countries, so that it will be in finland and sweden, they must be recorded in nato, so that rutaphobia can be really vovki about the society changes in the mood in society, of course. sergei can you hear me, let's discuss the role of society in nazi germany what do you doubt that they are going to this? i no longer doubt. still.

sorry look bye bye bye bye look at the figures bye. well, you know, they wrote in the same greek parliament. i saw a tweet by someone, in my opinion from the greek deputies wrote. after they showed us the nazi vazov, in our parliament. some of us will worry that the extreme right will come to power in france, lindens, you understand, that's how it is. well, i want to talk about le pen after all. le pen had to repin, had to e to say that she is against the special operation and it is necessary to withdraw everything very categorically, but i'm sorry, everything is probably ambiguous. yes, it's probably not clear. he's got trend issues. and where is it heading? i reverse the trend too. believe me. let's see what was said about the economy of the economic state. here is seen and international economists part of them. he predicts that russia's gdp will fall this year, down to 10 to 11% there, there are even russian economists

who say that this will seem to be the case if we are in ukraine and believe that we have a war. you are the enemy we should rejoice, and many ukrainian experts really say that russia is bending from the reds . i'm looking from a different point of view. these are international experts. they say that the gdp of ukraine, sorry, we will lose 40-45%, that is , we will lose almost half of the gdp this year, moreover, i hear the minister of finance of ukraine who says that in april we will have a budget gap of 50 to 7 billion dollars, why am i saying this, what do you know, they say ok yaks, while the rich poor people die, and yes, it turns out, what kind of picture? i do not see a single goal for the future of ukraine from our european partners. i do not see it yet. i understand that we need weapons, they give us weapons, but i don’t see that this is financial humanitarian assistance , which they are talking about. we'll give him 500 million, we'll give him 100 million, we don't need money for weapons. we

need money to restore ukraine. i don't see any marshal's plan or any other plan or norman or why are we stopping the war for today? we are going to putin, we are negotiating, and we are starting to raise such a ukraine to ukraine. i am i don’t even theoretically hear anyone say now , as for the restoration of ukraine and the investment of significant funds in the economy of ukraine, you said military decisions, if we still stretch out together. so that it will be ukraine that then there will be nothing left of ukraine. well, good question. if they asked more actively, you see, here you can argue with us, speak with us, some critical theses and so on. with us, all this is possible, but imagine someone, yes, well, to ask ukraine such questions that you ask and well, i think that he will not go far in the literal sense of the word, by the way, about finances and about

how life works. here is one of the leaders. hdshss that speaks of germany we probably left the highest point of our wealth behind for a while anyway the situation is getting more and more difficult. not only i am the head of the opposition, but also federal chancellor olaf-scholz should tell the population this for ordinary families, and for many in the country life will become more expensive, but we will no longer be able to afford everything we are used to. so it will be in for a certain time. he, by the way, also ukrainization for a certain time. i have never been interested in when in the ukrainian media one should not use the word appearing, well, he had stupid reasons for it, and so on, certain which ones, well, certain ones, so how long life will be worthless, well, a certain time. but behind this, well, there is an understanding that it will never be the same. basically, she will never be the same. under this condition of the system, responding again there to the message to the message vasily a-a. how much, please tell me, how much

did the imf restructure your debts? and? how much did they tell you? did you write dolgov? yes, that is, the next 3 months. you have to give 5.5 billion dollars. yes, and here it is this means that what kind of help vasily who is he going to help? what land are you going to have? what kind of roads are being restored to you, they collect vasilievich, they tell you that she will give back yards. give now. well, war is war, well war has been doin, well war, and the money is in the international monetary fund. this is the simplest solution, that is, it's harder to build and make new military weapons to send it to you to deliver it there easier to write off debts. well, without cheating, it means that you probably have a prosperous future, which means the two of you are preparing just a garden country, a country in which you want to live in. just every person will be, and he will be very wealthy rich, he will have an excellent education, i don’t know there. well, how are you living there? as this one bequeathed, and president zelensky wants young people to choose whether an apartment or a house, so i'm waiting.