start genes. remember, remember, remember what johnson told you about this, who directly said that he wants the destruction of our country. that's just that's just dear, dear friends. here , compare two facts. johnson spoke in russian to tell people in russia to install a vpn for themselves and johnson simultaneously said that he wants us to disappear with you. well, put two facts together. i think that everyone should have enough mental health for this, to preserve the ability to compare these two facts. you know dmitry you showed president zelensky later. uh, duda's statement, indeed, this is all not enough, in addition, there are our american partners who say there are british ones, there is a european leader - one of the leaders of the european union who speaks. yes, we must fight to the last ukraine , in fact, duda is one of them, who, who calls for moreover, duda strengthens the territory and says that none of the european. the partner does not have the right to talk with russia, he

cannot negotiate, and in fact, he filed obstruction of the visit is extremely the visit of the chancellor of austria to the russian federation, but there is another party there is another party, which, relatively speaking, i call the party of peace, because today, for example, i read afar, that is, representatives of the head of the office, or rachs, who are the head of the negotiating group. everyone says, i mean, the ukrainian authorities partly say that let's continue. uh, negotiation process. come on, come on, we will reach some result in a contract or in contracts that will ensure or at least they will begin to install not in ukraine , see what i'm talking about, i'm with you dear host, maybe for the first time. but really. uh, i agree that people who live on the entertainment line leave, who goes where? maybe in russia you will continue now. it is very important. you see , if there was one more moment, because so many people. actually, i'm sorry

to interrupt you, but this is very important actually a lot of people, uh, in those parts of, uh, the republics that are under ukraine yes, they don't want to it is really a fact to go inside ukraine, they would be happy to leave here on our side , there are a huge number of such people. and here's the thing, yes, and here's the fact that ukraine is not going to any negotiations in order to open humanitarian corridors in these directions. this is generally the most terrible most terrible crime. i do not represent the president of ukraine i am talking about my own name and i know what i am talking about, i ask all people who can, please, who is in russia ? can where you can please leave these territories. why because and you and i know there is rhetoric from all sides that there must be a battle, the battle must be, the issue must be decided on the battlefield, the only question even i have is for the head of the european union. which

is our partner and we are going there. i have a question for him. but you are calling us to go to war, take it to die. are you ready to die? no, they are not ready to choose, but ukrainians say go. thank you very much for these words. we are very important right now . well, we are discussing the human basis. yes , this is very important. and here to this human grounds. add one more thing to complete the picture, that's all that was listed about the calls to war to decide on the battlefield. eh, it will be destroyed. after all, all this is voiced by the political leaders of ukraine, western europe, the european union, britain, the united states, note that there has not been a single appeal of this kind from the russian side and the official russian side for all this time and still taking advantage of the moment. i will literally say the extreme phrase. i know that your program is also being watched by ukraine in different parts. all the same, not e people, what's up with ukraine

believe the drive, but our er, mysk infantrymen are surrendering. i do not know the number of them, the number of people is 2400. she does not give up official data for this morning, because this night there were still 1.136 people confirmed by the authorities of the donetsk republic, if i'm not mistaken. do you personally know exactly what you are doing for that night? this is official data. yes, what the son said is easy to verify that there are now more than 3,000 already in total, right? yes? pay attention to what sladkov says yes, that there are allocated to the territory of the former government institutions. in general, the bass is organized by their life , food and everything else, but everything that is required in accordance with the geneva convention. you know, i would like to recall recently, uh, what russian president vladimir putin said openly, just the other day on april 12. uh admitted that

what is happening in ukraine is a great tragedy. and, of course, the dream of bigni obzhezinsky, who died russians and ukrainians, came true for this. fighting each other can be said to be a special military operation. well, how would the fighting go. and today, the most important thing, in my opinion, of course, is to formulate. and what will happen next? that's when vladimir began to talk about the fact that, uh, they are creating their own parallel picture of the world there. well , firstly, it would be half a disaster if it were only in ukraine; secondly, yes, probably, that’s all, that any non-victory of russia for 3-5 days there is perceived by them as their own victory - this is logical. and the most important thing is that this picture, of course, is broadcast with a desire to be broadcast to the entire western world, not only the western world, but to the entire planet in this sense, of course, it is simply vital for us to formulate our own picture of the world to convey it to people, and in this picture of the world

there must be an image of the future. this story will end sooner or later, what will happen next? what will be the relations between russia and ukraine in the future, what will be the relations between the russian and ukrainian peoples? how will we look at each other in our generation? how our children will look at each other, those children who fled there from kiev somewhere to europe or which is now there sat bomb shelters or those that sat the same answer on the surface. but look how the germans spaniards treat russians, who yesterday held great respect. we love russians. we are only those spaniards blue division. no, stop. and moreover, the blue division since these times, a lot of time has passed since the time of the blue division. this is the first. the second is right here. you understand what 's the matter. here i am here one question. well, because if we are serious with respect for people, and

how would we have many reasons for criticism on about yourself. we often love to scold both our state and our orders even more. what they deserve we have it, but i still think. even in this conflict, our country and state demonstrates. the most important approach. everything has to come from below people. we must give them the opportunity to self-determine. that's when putin said that he had already formulated this in the assumption of a united people. e in the belief of three single people. there is a future behind this for those who want to, either you admit it, you accept it for yourself. do not recognize, because they impose on you. and you think so, right? this is your nature. this is the trinity of the people. well then, let's equip the life of this three united people. it's all done in one step really. it is clear that there will be, everything is very difficult for a simple solution, no different, but the space for self-determination has been

created, it has been announced, it has been announced, it is very important that there is a common denominator. yes, as in arithmetic, there is no place for anti-russia projects on the territory of the post-soviet space will. yes exactly. it is important. here inside you can be determined rusyn and hot. well, yes, well, this is definitely not anti-russia, because, which is very important. eh, we have a post-soviet e, all projects. well, not almost all of them were, as they were anti-soviet at first, well, they arose from the nineties, then they were, if not russia , yes, that is, at first, and through denial, then through we are not, and then this very subtle step from non-russia to anti-russia. we really do it. here are those who lived, those who lived in ukraine, we felt like this well, it is stretched out in time, i think that our mistakes no, well, two words oleg well, i'm just talking about your remark, there is a fight going on about the image of the future. well, now there is a fight of images of the

future. that is, this is the next step, at the moment it is obvious that the next thing that will happen is a radical anti-russian anti-russian core against us, who, as it were, want to kill us. they will not know where they will be, even if they leave the territory of ukraine they will be in europe, they will hate us, as the anti bolshevik did a league of peoples that sat in the us after escaping after world war ii. they will be radio liberty was born from the last political nazi emigration and was mothballed for 30 years, then transported to prague and then these same people came and created one plus one and other media in ukraine there will be this process and our radical core will be exactly the same, which is all this time sat like a grandmother. in mariupol, like the people who are in odessa, who are now forced to sit silently , erase any message that they write to us and will that's all, especially, especially since you worked a bunch

of times in the elections. you know the ukrainian people perfectly for 30 years. he was always deceived, he was used to seeing thieves as deceivers and scoundrels in all any politicians and representatives of power, and they developed a reaction, like his moldovans, by the way, the position of hatas extreme, fuck you all and whoever builds statehood will be trusted. this is the most important thing, and how our statehood will be based on respect for different peoples. how is it in russia in general different and plus the belarusian model will be proposed through democracy, because in ukraine , in fact, only the language issue needs to be resolved, which they all the time did not solve for polytechnological purposes, they deceived belarus , this was shown by a referendum, the question was removed, the question was that victory in any special military operations, it is determined, among other things, by scale. and the confidence that in the image of the future which unfortunately, we could not export. stop

it. that's all her hillock. here. well, i have many i get very annoyed. sorry if it's on you personally. how the future all this is based on the image of the future, only one will be a grandiose world cataclysm and who and who will win in a grandiose world cataclysm, then you will form an image of the future, which will be determined by the results of the cataclysm. they are someone's wishlist. listen, and i want us to stop ourselves. here it is again scratching this very next wavka. on the body once. we don't have a vision of the future. so you won't win. i have to believe. i studied the newspaper soviet during the great fatherland. i don’t remember the forty-third year of the discussion in the red star of vladimir’s defense. we’ll definitely interrupt for advertising, then we’ll continue the heated argument here.

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1 we continue our discussion today was meeting with the president of the russian federation on the development of the fuel and economic complex and the new strategy in the changed conditions. let's see what the president said. banks from these very friendly countries are delaying the transfer of payments. let me remind you that the task has already been set to transfer payments for energy resources to national currencies to gradually move away from the dollar and the euro as a whole. we intend to radically increase the share of settlements in national currencies. there are important steps in the foreign trade system. the key task is already being done in these areas. it is here to prepare our foreign exchange market for such a transition, so that any foreign currency can be freely and to the extent necessary to blame

russian rubles. and what is surprising here is that the so -called partners from unfriendly countries admit that they cannot do without russian energy resources, including natural gas, for example, its reasonable replacement for europe is simply absent now. yes, it is possible, but now it is missing; everyone understands that there are simply no free volumes on the world market, and supplies from other countries, first of all, and the united states, which can be sent to europe, will cost consumers many times more expensive at times. well, such a picture, yes, maxim, please, the main problem is indicated here, and the survival of our economy in the foreseeable future depends on how long we will receive income from the sale of gas and oil, first of all, in what volumes. well, i'll just name two figures from the sale of our gas to europe per day, we receive

400 million dollars from the sale of our oil to europe per day 700 million dollars. so far this is the situation will remain. in general, everything will be more or less under control in the economy. yes. you see, putin outlined the problem that our partners, as he said, are being delayed, but they were a pretext, but payment. well , for this, in general, there was this scheme for gas. well, as i understand it now, the president, that we are talking about a complete translation of trading. but it's actually here to understand that it will be gradually it will be. well, approximately, since the austrian is already with gas. eh, i have no reason not to believe the chancellor, not the hammer, when putin told him, well, pay it, as it is. you are entitled to your opinion. i'm on my who against. you are against my opinion. naturally, you are like, leading the opinion in the 10 i

modesty of his family. you will continue, of course you first, i always give people the opportunity, even when i interrupt. i say, you must continue. look, what’s the matter, but it’s not my opinion, and it’s not your opinion, it’s an opinion in general. someone should not be interested in anyone, but the point is some objective reality. here is the european commission, they said that they should pay according to the scheme proposed by the president of russia and russia yes, in accordance with the decree, their lawyers studied it, they say, circumvention of sanctions and it is impossible. and now we will find out the objective situation, starting from the end of april and in the month of may. this is what i urge, in principle, our viewers, although it is difficult, ah, not to blindly believe the official statement, including the european commission, that is, if they say that this is a bypass, but the austrian chancellor believes that it is not and so this scheme

exists between russia and austria, as far as i understand, it suits both vienna and moscow now. they pay in rubles then it is immediately transferred, and not paid in euros. this is what is translated into rubles and there is no possibility. these are the reasons - these delays in making an arrest and there is no possibility of an arrest, so here we will not cling to words. so he blindly believes in the same thing they said in the european commission or not, there is a small amount of slyness in what our authorities say. here are the current schemes quite satisfied so far, as long as we receive a day from europe. 400 + 700 more than a billion dollars, you know, you have to be from this in order to refuse idiot. i believe we have idiots at the top. no , i don’t know, so to speak, these are exactly the expressions. i would not use. that's because i understand that the issue of refusal will definitely not be our initiative. i understand this, but here's how the

situation unfolds if they refuse to pay. you see , they have a maxl. yours you love marshal correctly. well tell about to whom i wanted to say, listen to the site. to me, on the contrary, this max is our daily one. we have a daily program calmly calmly calmly, maxim is impossible. it was sarcasm. i am i know how you feel about him, that's why i said it sarcastically. i know how you would feel. well, yes, well, here, who do you want to give a damn about? this is better than a better expression than the previous one. please don’t use, uh, the previous second to me to attribute the maximum that is now together with michael mcfall, it doesn’t matter, who is now developing something together with yermak, as it will be, then ukraine will act. they have a dual group. uh,

yermak and makful said that the most correct scheme is for russia to give everything away, and the money would be somewhere stockpiled, and we may sometime under certain conditions. uh, if russia somehow behaves as we like, but then we will consider, what to do with this money did not say, by the way, listed and so on. and this strategy will definitely not work. damn it won't. you see, i’m talking about this, but you know, i didn’t hear what he was talking about, maxim is in the president’s statement. i uh, in my opinion, it is about the fact that today it is necessary to maintain this negotiating position, which was established by russia then yes strict restrictions have been set and we are talking about a complete transition to settlements in rubles, this leads to. here is a whole set of actions that support the russian economy, and in principle determines the position of russia both in the international market and in international politics, therefore, but now the question is that russia must survive. but the phrase that foreign banks are starting to

wind around. sorry gentlemen. this is a common conversational position. he begins to see no west, nothing more permanent than temporary. that is, they start squealing. and you wait and we really need it. and you get into position. and now we will adjust. and now we will decide, we will definitely find it, and at this time the european council is coming, which says that it is necessary . other. and let's play hide and seek, that is, the usual position from which the west comes out and they understand, therefore, in this case, russia is simply should not be exchanged. that is, the established position must be maintained, and putin says clearly that you guys have no options. you do n't have any options. and we just need to put the squeeze on this situation in order to bring it into the right state, at least the energy market in europe on the listener when a day when a day especially

two billion dollars twice impresses you made an impression. i'm now. well, i'm wondering to myself, because i'm hard to impress. i ask myself questions. ok then. okay, big amount. here i get it, what can i do with it. firstly, i don’t really understand where i can place it so that they don’t steal a billion dollars, because they are on the same accounts, and i am only a nominal owner and at any moment this billion dollars a day can turn into nothing. yes this is the first one is china's first aircraft parts buyers, and two answer. uh, we have, uh, a trade surplus with those weirdos . we can buy in the same way for yuan calmly and worry that this money will disappear for us, you understand, with china we can trade in yuan, but with india we can trade at a cross rate, the rupee ruble is already being worked out

with all those who want with us to trade the president about it. he says we will switch to national currencies, bypassing the dollar and the euro to the maximum he said today. eh, it's all cardinal. if i'm nazi right, he said today the president and now i get a billion from you, which can be reset to zero at any moment. i can't buy anything for it. at the same time, i do not really understand what my economic benefit is. but i would like to understand, when the president says they will sell on the market, all this will be absorbed by small buyers, but as an intermediate phase about selling the euro or the dollar, i understand this, but for me it is still the way to completely refuse oil to the dollar. what currency are we selling for? ah , you understand, it turns out to your detriment, that is gazprom does not understand. here is what you understand, you b-look, firstly, we introduced this principle first for unfriendly countries with turkey yes with

turkey by the way, this is the first second with turkey for several years a special group has been working out a scheme of work exclusively in national currencies. this is not true. i just understand why it's not easy, wait. i will tell. why is it not easy, because again we have a positive balance with turkey and it is difficult for the turks. to have such, well, the balance to serve him we will find solutions from turkey. yes, most likely it will. we actually have this news going on. this is the process of acquiring precisely financial sovereignty, financial and economic. well, well, in this case, in this application, which is very important for us, most likely, everything will end up with the same notorious energy consumption, because we have a system of bilateral relations. and since our main commodity is energy. and there you can calculate the unit. well, the same conditional joule, yes, which is in oil and gas and coal, well, in any

unit of energy. and we have a very clear trade turnover. if we look at what we have first. uh, well, here's the balance, we will consider that we really have what you say dependence on the engineering and technical part. but it will have to be reconnected to southeast asia, that 's all. the rest is the consumer market. first of all. these are food products where we have problems purely. well, geographical, that is, what comes from the southern countries is what is growing in our country, and the second is light industry, which we were killed, but both are being solved, without any problems at all. and it will be difficult and you will have to strain and there will be a crisis, it will be no longer known, history is not of a vital nature for us, dear ones here, e. it seems to me that it is very important to note one thing for us, because this is a forced history. after all, maxim drove us, because sometimes in these arguments about what it feels like, that we came out with a certain dimash like this and said, we will now sell only for rubles. but it's not.

this is not so with all these restrictions and all. eh, i dealt with these restrictions against us . west they are there and our gold and foreign exchange reserves, there they froze bank accounts and so on. and now we gladly wanted to trade in euros and dollars in order to be able to do it again. eh, everything. uh, appropriate, well, this is a situation that we were simply brought into it, and we are trying to get out of it. it's the same when they say no, but it's just that we want to bargain. we need your gas oil there and so on, but we want trade in such a way as to be able to get your money, which you will have to receive , not to hand it over to you, but, if for our viewers, if there are any, to explain, it’s like this yes, there we start. uh, there are some macroeconomic wilds to climb. this is

probably correct. and this is necessary and it is clear that there is a very serious struggle behind this, but the situation is looking like now. that's how we got into this story. we are now forced to do so in order to receive our money for our goods. are you sure that you are arguing with me now. do you remember what i said, i said the same thing, just a little different, right? they put a completely different accent, so it’s not necessary, but the dog is about the chancellor’s dogs. uh, austria what did he say? he said that there was a conversation with putin further, as they agreed, for me, as a citizen of ukraine , this is important, because we did not know what the conversation was about, it was about gas. now rubles dollars. how is your relationship with europe. we are here, as if not in business, but when we speak to ukraine together with your non-other macfon, let's imbanga. enter us they say hungary is gone, while the

third parties say no, the germans say no. and then what do we gain in this situation? it seems to me, it seems to me, you should go from this from these. well, i apologize for the stupid phrases that here we are somewhere formidable banks. we in ukraine now need to take one step, we tried it once, but we just need to declare and say, dear europeans, russians. take a step towards each other. so hop. get up and do it point of entry-exit of active-transfer gas at the border. e russia and ukraine, and then there are no disputes about who owes whom rubles or euros to ukraine, we don’t have anything to do with it at all, and even accusations, maybe potentially accusing us of gas dissipation, or there we are some kind of nafig they are ours, you don’t have anything to do with it affairs. europe buys gas from you.