international law, as it is possible in the conditions of world disorder to establish some rules for the first time , disorder does not provide for any rules. there are so many questions here. i will draw a parallel, what vasily was talking about look, vasily, if in 2004 we decided that there is such a concept in jurisprudence as the policy of a legal decision. so the country has gone down the drain. why am i explaining? tell me, please, kherson region, it is recognized as occupied no, but that the governor asks questions, can he be there work or not? is this the territory of ukraine or not? well, formally he is, that is, what am i talking about? i am leading to the fact that there is a law, there is a constitution of ukraine, there are duties of people who must fulfill their functional duties, but they refuse. why because zelensky told them not to do this? he not only said, the deputy of the verkhovna rada, i don’t remember there now, you understand, the people who had the district of the kherson region, he came from. who he had went

visited his district, they already recognized him collaborator. they are going to expel him from the factions. how could you go there? i mean, he says, wait, but there they are my voters. yes , what kind of voters do not care? voters. i told you no, so it's a very important thing, you know? understand your power. well, so to speak, i won’t be my attitude, what did she do with all the people of the kherson region and parts of the zaporizhzhya region recorded in russian and in russia, of course, they automatically recorded it, yours did it just like they did before this donbass, wait. i don't know so. you know it's a fact life consisted always there at all. eh, it’s approaching the bike, or it seems to me that this is the attitude to this holiday. uh, generally should be in the spotlight, but in fact we should pay attention. but for those countries, no matter how difficult relations with these countries are. on their

attitude, if there is something positive , be sure to note. this is what we often miss. here are some of the negatives. yes, we are raising and starting to discuss this, and it’s probably right, but we must not forget. this is very important thing. here, for example, in georgia yes, there is an opposition, just these meish yes followers of saakashvili were now trying to postpone the celebration. e victory day from may 9 to 8 parliament did not accept may 9 all this time as friends, always in the victory park in the park always take place. even in lockdown. uh, a man who's over 90 years old on foot there because he didn't work. uh, he went there by public transport on foot and was guarded by the police, but the relationship is all the same to this project. i understand the difficult relationship between russia and georgia, but after all, this is a thing, yes, it should be celebrated, that it’s still victory day and so many families where they died. yes, and a lot of georgians died in the war, they still celebrate. e all the time in azerbaijan you also need this one always at the

official level with e, pompous and so on with oncoming cars with veterans and so on. uh, in other countries in armenia, in the friend, you definitely need to talk about this. it definitely means alexander here. i want to be very brief, so about the convicts in germany , the group. this is the letter z yes, it means was such a paranoia, it means that the turkish sultan abdulhamid ii means that he banned abdulhamid at home, yes, the second banned it. uh, the chemical formulas of water is h2o because he thought it means rude second zero, so congratulations in particular to germany all of europe you turn asian terraria congratulations. that's fantastic. i sometimes listen to you and they recognize you, in general, deep magical magic, which everyone checks, seriously gay, i would like to join your words in a very short way to say a simple thing. this year there will be a celebration of 9 may and it is clear that here in russia we will send. with

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for only 11.990 against on channel russia 1 we we continue our discussion and now you understand the question of actions and, well, some courage, right? how it manifests itself, we discussed this and said that it is really for people on may 9 outside of russia to go out, er, with the st. george ribbon or with a portrait of the immortal regiment. it

will be heroism without embellishment. but the ukrainian side shows heroism, as it were, in another way, i see this video, uh, i saw it, well, it seems already, as if i were used to the monument to kotovsky in odessa. well, he will achieve his goal with hard work , friends, the driver was such kotovsky more than him there isn't. glory to ukraine, decommunization will win. here he won a victory over the bas-relief of kotovsky, he probably experienced great enthusiasm. well, by the way, it 's interesting, if this weren't considered as a victory and a popular social action

approved, then he wouldn't do it, wouldn't show it. it's like an achievement. and so the question. you are discussing this all the time rodion and i agree with you in many ways. yes, the degree of madness and nazismization of the society as a whole is very high . in no case should it be underestimated. yes anya, well, i want to remind you that not a single monument was damaged in donetsk and we have a monument to shevchenko and which stands inviolable and no one assumes that it is possible to fight with monuments at all. what moment i would like to tell you, you know, i just recently returned from volgograd, the former stalingrad, and there is an absolutely incredible monument that refers to the triptych you said, and the war in the trapto in the park, which cut the swastika and at the same time hugs a girl to his chest in stalingrad in volgograd is the motherland, which indicates the west with her hand and asks to be saved from the enemy that comes

from the west, and in her right hand she holds the sword and, behold, those feelings that are incredible. i wanted to talk about the unity of today's russian people about the unity of russians. the fact is that why i was in stalingrad at all and this is a marathon, and for russia a and. i read poems, read poems about donbass , about eight years in donbass, about what happened, and we did it at the philharmonic. and with us there were a huge number of artists, and there was oleg gazmanov with his amazing patriotic songs, he closed it's all but an event. i, as it were, opened what i saw in the hall, how people applauded, how people stood listening to the texts. about the donbass, i understand perfectly well that here. uh, what a russian, these are the polls that we watch, they are absolutely truthful, and in some cities the level of patriotism generally goes off scale. and this applies to, well,

stalingrad, of course. it's so huge. history is there, and the turning point of the war. everything is clear. there, people soaked it all up in their skins with their blood. they are all, well, in other cities we and we were in astrakhan and saw the same thing. this, of course. this is the incredible support of donbass, incredible sympathy, empathy of mercy. i just want to say a huge, huge thank you. to those russian people who really express this huge sincere absolutely love to the donbass people is huge, huge. thank you, i joined you in this, because ivan said and i would like to draw the attention of those participating in the discussion. and, of course, our viewers, that this marathon is an action for russia, yes, which now it goes all over the country. here are the concerts. i'm just here i'm afraid it will be unfair. if i'm out of a dozen artists who take part in

this, i won't name someone. it will be unfair, so i will not list now, because i can make a mistake and not name someone. and these are dozens of people and this is impossible, but i ask all viewers to open these materials on the internet and look at these dozens of our artists who take part in these concerts along with people in support of our armies to support. the fact that uh, well, in support of the liberation of donbass and in support of our country and the state as a whole, these are dozens of the names of our figures and culture, so see for yourself. look at these names so that you just know that we have those who are with the country. well, there are many and there may be more of them, and most likely, there are more of them than those who are not with the country, we wanted to add something. it's just very important. these are the slogans under which these events are held. this is the motto for

peace and for a world without nazism. this is also very important, speak to me. i think it's a very short note. well, first of all, about this one, but about the guy who broke the monument. i would like to see how this monument was developed, if, for example, one of the chechen taliban fighters, for example, was so famous, he would be there . uh, a crime when there is silence and no one around. let him do it, let him do it. then when they stand there, fighters or someone else , but in parallel with this, you know, i have another video is spinning in my head. recently i saw, in my opinion, e on your telegram channel, when a grandmother walks her dog, and a tank passes by. and the luhansk luhansk defense, and he calmly passes and she calmly walks through the ruined city and walks the dog. you know this symbol. oh, the world that these tanks provided, with which they entered there and here, i generally support a lot of such videos. i know how people are now restoring

life and how they treat soldiers, how children treat soldiers. and how do they communicate with them? it's impossible to fake it, because it's live footage and there are hundreds and hundreds of testimonials. uh, a few minutes ago. at 16:00, the humanitarian corridor, which the ministry of defense opened for those who would like to leave, was supposed to close immediately, and for terrorists and for possible civilians. e. i hope that many have taken advantage. this is fina opportunities why final because since this morning ramzan kadyrov uh in his telegram channel said that today is a decisive day and that today the assault will begin, but they caught it. for now, there is still time. i would like that if this decision is made, that it be made as technologically as possible, because with er, it is obvious that these will be special units. they are private soldiers, of course, we have a very good experience, storming the palace minus 42 years ago twenty, but already 20 years ago, when there was already a storm-dosta. uh, there was already a more technological solution. yes, they used gas. there,

presumably syntonil e, 7 years ago, vladimir vladimirovich putin was already shown anthropomorphic robot avatar who hit all the targets there. now, in the 21st century. i would like to drink glory not to a russian soldier, but to a russian weapon, because it is obvious that the operation will be the most difficult of all those listed, and that it would be all the more a convention. by the way, it's not banned. uh, the use of non-lethal so-called know here. you can divide, but they will be us. eh, let it all remain on your conscience. i am sure that our general staff and command are special military operation. somehow they will find solutions, how to dig out or bury them with minimal losses and with the greatest efficiency. there are those who refuse to give up. so i think that, without the soviets, our command will definitely manage with such a plan. yes, alexey actually, that's when you look at these things, even call them actions. uh,

when he destroys monuments, because this person wanted to demonstrate that there really is no culture of these people, who they represent. this ideology has no, as it were, not to treat the heroes of the past, but still it is a cultural layer, and it accumulates. it should be in every nation. and when they do this, they cut out all the memory to the root. well, what will be left after him? this is a koalda with a sledgehammer facial expression, like a baboon, this will be a culture, probably, it has already become, if they have come to this, what is the difference after all, we are russian people in such a big civilizational sense. we are constantly accumulating this cultural layer and there remain really different the heroes who created brought a piece of themselves. here in this big cauldron, there are also different white people, but they still make up this pantheon and the cultural layer, and this is the wealth

of any people of any civilization. and when we are dealing, but, indeed, these are not even barbarians , they are, well, baboons for whom there is no human, because culture is just what distinguishes people from a herd of animals. they returned to their animal state. unfortunately, and this has to be stated and the treatment for this is only one genocification, because nazism is the virus that kills the human in a person right here. i completely agree that this is precisely a manifestation of nazism, because it is a distinctive feature of nazism. this is not what it looked like in germany, this is not necessarily a form that can change, but the essence always remains one set of chosenness, that we are better, and the second is hatred of others. which is the main driving force, because in itself there are complexes of chosenness. eh, it manifests itself differently in

different cultures. it is. but the fact that hatred of others is a hallmark of nazism. and it is hatred that unites these people. so you said that they became baboons, not baboons, but they didn’t. they became their mankuts. they brought them up like that and they made people who do not exist, cultures that are not driven by love for ukraine god forbid there is no love, there for ukraine no there is only hatred for everything russian. and the longer they would delay this operation. how do we some say, let's wait. there would be more and more of these. therefore, it was necessary to save the people of ukraine from turning into mankurts, because it was a targeted policy. they were nurtured. from such an age they brought up and they said you are the best, you have the right. everything, and everything around you is not worth it. and you have to destroy it to the ground. that's what. we are now

defending, we are defending and liberating the people of ukraine from nazism. and here there is no stretch, as they sometimes say, right here brought in for propaganda reasons. what kind of nazism is there zelensky jew, and here is the nationality of a particular zelensky or someone else, these, most importantly, distinguishing features are here . and this is the ulcer that will destroy everything if it is not eliminated, and we remember khrushchev's experience when they were released. what happened to those who went through this incurtization is no longer possible to re-educate. well, you understand, you are always choosing words, but it seems to me that alexei said exactly at the basis of all this lies a fundamental refusal from culture. it's a nazi quote. but what about the word culture, where does the hand reach? yes, because they had to do what they needed to do, they understood that culture does not allow a person to turn into an animal. this is the only accessory. involvement in culture is the

only thing that, by and large , distinguishes you from a beast of an animal. alexei said this very accurately and the german nazis. yes, not only the germans understood that the transformation of a man into a beast, which can go so far on instinct, then it is controlled by cutting off from the culture of the announcement its not significant non -existent. there is nothing at all from the past that could somehow limit you. yes , another phrase. remember dostoevsky's all very good definition of demons, whoever renounced his past, that is ours. that's why they should be prepared for sure. give me paradoxes, when, in the fourteenth year, they were raging right next to bessarabka. there in kiev yes, bring lenin down, yes, that is, the first reaction was in lugansk, that is there they simply put up a cardon, but near and in general, if they simply stood near pa. yes to lenin, yes, that is, i did not see a hero in lenintsev there, i did not see admirers there, and there the communist party is just

people who say - this is our history. you do not climb here with dirty hands and on the territory, and the lpr used to be there in the luhansk region. we have remained safe and sound, and the graves of the italians, whom we actually did not call to us, are the graves of the poles of the hungarians, that is, they remained and monuments. that is, they were there that part of our history, and it remained there and none of them touched in the center of luhansk, as it stood, and still stands. shevchenko , too, nothing happened. it has nothing to do with luhansk, but no one allowed himself to arrange it. this is his demolition or some kind of coven about this, you know, but here's what happens to them when they, well, i'm european. yes, right? it's european to act, but like fighting with a monument, take a sledgehammer and grind the monument. this is heroism. this is chivalry. this is, in general, following all such here are european truly european traditions. they are showing about them now. jews in europe for some reason do not notice europe is very calm about this. and at the same time, i can say that in 8 years they have succeeded very much. that is, we are

now dealing with children in the liberated territories, who, in fact, have already managed to shit in their brains, yes, that is, to tell who are the heroes, and who is not a hero, what to do like this is right. and now, at the moment of denocification, you know, he has it at the present time already today or even yesterday it was supposed to start, and not with judging yes, we will judge as soon as we finish the military operation that will end the war, but work with children work with future opinion leaders with flashmen with teachers. this must be done now. oh, i mean, a lot of them want to do it to them. you just need to equip them with tools. they need to put on methods , provide textbooks, to give the opportunity, i don’t know, there to journalists and the liberated kharkiv oh , the liberated. well, more kherson so far, yes, that is, melitopol and here are our liberated territories give them the opportunity to come, i do not know to you for an internship. yes, well, come. yes, share to tell how i think what you say is very true for good reason here in the crimea for example, i am the head of the crimea , uh, aksyonov said that it is possible, a double program?

yes, teachers from crimea will go there, kherson teachers will go to crimea in this case, i would really like to, that is, in russia there are academies of pedagogical sciences, yes, that is, this is a task for teachers. that is, it’s not just waving a saber, it’s, that is, a child whose 8 years old was pumped up with no one knows what you need in a short time to try you remove it, you don’t need it and lay the right foundation. that is, this is a serious pedagogical task and we need to work on it. and you know, just like that, a cavalry charge. i am convinced i can not do not think that this can not be done? wait cavalry, how little can you do? yes, except that briefly valerian so to speak? well, yes, and what will be the consequences after that is always always a question. yes? we want it for the long haul. yes, systematic systematic work is needed and in places where it will be possible to influence the education system on the system. a single broadcast on the system of literature all this should be done, but to the politicians at the same time. do you understand how important it is here?

yes, rodion, what you say, anya touched it. eh, you see, it's very important not to change yourself. yes, when we say that we have monuments to shevchenko as they stood, and they will stand, that we have the literature of shevchenko or franco or and so on in libraries and stars. it can be bought and but it does not represent and not and never for this literature. we won't do anything. like this, like this. uh, it 's got to stay with us no matter what you face. here with such nazis as this one, who destroys the monument to kotovsky, because you must always remember exactly by it, because we are not like them. we have the right to say to do, and they have no such right. and this is very important to keep danya in yourself. you know, i will allow myself to quote bratbury, and one of my favorite works is 451 fahrenheit and there was such a line, and the phrase is all that the school gives. maybe, in principle, level the family. i'm quoting now, of course,

i can't nail down the quotation from memory. i know teachers from volnovakha from mariupol, those people who were kept in fear were really kept in fear, because they were afraid in their lessons to accidentally stumble, but they say and say something not at sea. it really was really their fear, which was their core, so, i know for sure that these teachers are quietly bit by bit. they still tried to tell the truth to their students, they still resisted this huge ukrainianization, which went to someone in these donbass. originally lands, they are on the sly. which now they understand parents who tried to go to the director. i don’t know somewhere else in the area and we said we want our child to study in a russian class, and then they stopped talking, because it became scary to talk, because you could suffer for it. so here are the parents today. they are happy that classes began at school, and they are in russian

and parents. just really really happy. this is because a child at school can speak the language of the mother's language about the language spoken at home. today i read, yes, that the fifty-third school in mariupol today children went to classes. i understand it's a big school. she's at her best. well , maximum safety. yes, probably as far as it is possible, and in mariupol the children have already gone to classes. well, here is a very important thing you mentioned. i would only advance a little more about what is a school is a family. and you know what factor will be important in this territory, that the older generation, well, they will get what they hid the stories of their parents, their grandfathers and great-grandfathers, who fought in the soviet army against nazism. and they have awards. and probably, these 8 years they had to hide them and not talk about it at all, because if you talk about

it, they could kill you for it. and so, when such a moment arises that there is no fear over you. you can remember your grandfather and great-grandfather of the hero and tell these great-grandchildren and grandchildren. yes, and tell your children and your grandson already, and even there this moment is very important for your ancestor, because when this fear of impossibility to do this will be removed. because you have to be maimed or killed. it seems to me that this factor will become very significant, because indeed in every family there are heroes of that great patriotic war in every family. and so i really hope that when fear is removed and violence is brought to bear, this mechanism will begin to work, but in ukraine, you see, on the contrary, the minister of education said that he supported the decision to completely disappear the russian language and schools. well, he says, you decide for yourself in schools, but, in principle, i support it. that is, it means that i

will see that under these conditions some school will not decide that they do not smell of the russian language at all. here, in the conditions of the fact that natsik thermal defenses are walking around and so on. well, well, this is what is called the two sides, but good and evil are very simple, you don’t have to invent anything and it’s easy to see. we have advertising now after it will continue. still top news. she became the catalyst for the complete transformation of the world, we are witnessing this transformation. and we have something to say about this. do not miss the evening with vladimir solovyov special issue today at 21:20 on the channel russians and restore.

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