two from our point of view, from our point of view, this is still mariupol liberation of the quote. uh, you saw the kremlin's quote. yes, i carefully saw, yes, the quote from the president of russia, yes. this means that the official statement of the kremlin that erdogan was completely understand that those who have sat down can come out laying down their arms. yes, but i hope, what if all the same, uh, general secretary. he will still convince your e, your supreme commander in chief, to the president of the russian federation, that there is still some option to release about a such people are released every day from two hours here, look after all the court. what is the main oil. now why is being decided here, because if a decision is made on the sea, a decision will probably be made under the donbas as a whole for everything and this operation that has just begun, maybe it will not take place and can be made, just a diplomatic policy decision as to release. those people who are in mariupol and about

stopping or at least disrupting this operation, who are now only going on letter in writing. state and send usinus people can get alive, you know, they can stay alive and return to their homes. moreover, to russia so that everything is ingenious or not, but it is wrong. no, wait, just one thing, i want to tell you that, in principle, yours could not disrupt the entire agenda that was agreed upon, but sign it, by the way, a month ago. nobody would die in a month. if yours simply signed what they agreed on. here you are now inventing, that's all that you said, send a special with a powerful one, and against blinky. well, the axis is not a question. here again, the same story is twisted again. a donbass operation donbass grouping. the situation of the vases got up and i explain

again and here it is as accessible as possible, if today the militants somehow get out they will be evacuated or something else and they will solemnly come out with a weapon or something else why am i saying that not a single militant should come out of there , that is, they are only laying down their arms only in a clear direction only to the camp, but this is for prisoners of war, and that is, either the dpr or the russian federation, not because it is precisely everyone who is sitting in kramatorsk in avdeevka and in artyomovsk. they are now looking, that is, now the americans rule , determine the policy, or or russia independently in their choice, that is, therefore, in my in my opinion. there are no other options here. that is, in fact, here it is an extreme indicative marker, which is now in mariupol. i did not understand where the option came from, because because of the phenomenon of ukraine and the statements of people who represent ukraine, that is, they they listen here, here it comes and even diverges in huge waves. that is, these waves should finish already. that is, whenever

it was reported, when the minister of defense reported to the president, but they stood up about what was really happening at the core, it became clear there. that is, there are only two exits. one they will be eliminated, the second they are laying down their arms and going along the humanitarian corridor, the third will not be given. here in these e, vasily here is an attempt. e defeat turn into triumph know how this one pulls these out of the hat. uh, rabbits, there and so on. i mean, that's it, it's empty. there's a black hole, there's a rabbit on you, you know, well, it won't work. we already talked about this at the last program. well, no, no. no one will let defeat turn it into victory. and here's what you're talking about, so that they come out with weapons. having deployed here, a mine to a third country or what? they are still demanding. it won't be. this is actually, no matter how hard they try now, it is impossible to enter through the gutr or through someone else. this defeat which you have to accept the people who

stayed there. they should drop their guns and go out, what they're told every day, you know, is defeat. everything has to be accepted. actually, ukraine could make one, at least give the order to release civilians, if they are there, of course, but your government, creatures, finished, finished, creatures, you understand, because they know, they themselves approve civilians there, and he is the commander in chief, he could order oxen to cola on or someone else lives there. release the civilians i order, i give you an order, but uh, your shit commander and everything . they consider not only the nazis of azov, but also those who are your rulers, they consider these people as hostages and tummy. this is exactly what your government does. yes, here i even started with something else today , adam dilikhanov was awarded the title of hero of russia. uh,

just for the event in the donbass in ukraine, where is he fighting? i'm just going back to that conversation about how you will live with us. here is vasily about it often says, after that, we will live normally with you, but there was a situation with chechnya. we have a much more terrible enemy on our land. it was much more dangerous there, and as a fighter they were much more serious. but we somehow managed to resolve this issue by turning people openly hostile to our culture to everything that is in our compatriots into the pride of the russian world into the combat infantry of the russian world. what do they call themselves? that, in principle, is all. there is no need to talk about afghanistan, as they said here, me. sorry listened there at first parts. let's talk about chechnya, it will be much more correct. but, firstly, on my own behalf, i also want to congratulate adam dilekhanov on joining the

bitch, the title, which is unconditionally unconditional. yes definitely worth it. that's what you remembered dmitry, i could have said differently, you know, but there is one question, and it doesn’t matter one people or there is another people of ukraine. tactically it doesn't matter, but the question is there will be a person who can take responsibility, courage, strength, honesty and not regret, maybe in his life, how did it. akhmad hadji kadyrov and, uh, be sure to take responsibility for ukraine well , if you really bring these parallels, so to speak. yes , uh, in many respects to the end, but i would not continue here , therefore, about uh, to argue. yeah, uh, just tagged it as a question because it's a matter of principle. and are there people there? those who are ready to take responsibility for the people

, i will say this, living in those territories, maybe not at all, maybe not at all at once in different ways, but without this it will be difficult to do anything to do for the people for the people about here the continuation of the topic about respect for the enemy, there are other stories, but vasily and you know that these people who settled there on azov began to go out by radio and say, let us out to turkey a. release us, please, in the direction of ukraine. a. release us with weapons. they are offering options for a scheme, and they have never offered to release those who were not purposefully filmed. yes, they filmed eight civilians, apparently. these are their wives, their children, their wives and children, but they do not ask questions to let them out if there are civilians there, if your officials claim that there are civilians there. why is this issue not resolved? and when you described this romantic scenario to stop the special operation, to be honest, you are not offended, well, let's say in the bluish-haired, which daily purposeful methodically fire at

you, these proposals would be kicked, and they would hurt the bird directed. daily. those whom we are called to treat. sincerely. here maxim stood here and called for this enemy to be treated. with respect. ta azov steel. believe me. you will learn so much when they crawled out of there, when they start to testify. and believe me, the whole of ukraine will be surprised at the number of war crimes and secrets that those who are now settled there keep. well, even now the investigative committee of russia is working, the prosecutor's office of the republics is working, but, by the way, there is even a video where they confess to violent crimes against women, and it's understandable. we won't show it. but it's there, it's all you can see. this is what it's about he speaks. kostya what will happen next? come on, you know before the start. this is, uh, special war operations were like that, which means, uh, the rhetoric of british russia was pathosing each other. this means that the british said that we were ready to host shoigu there, which means that

minister of defense shoigu, that is, gave hints that let's agree on something, and you know, i would sincerely support the fact that we, the british, began to agree on something, because they rule in everything , they are the main ones, uh, they are watching the breeders, and even the americans, their elite means that they still obey, and the english elite. and at that moment i really wanted to, but when the war began, they dropped their masks and it began. this is anti-russian hysteria and so on. well, excuse me, everything is already here, everything is pointless, all negotiations, especially with them, especially since they have already sentenced us, and here i am, as a representative of civil society, not a statesman, but generally not related, they say to the state structures. that's what i would like. i would like us to create the same problems for our enemies, how and what they create for us. i would like us to help the peoples of europe to free themselves from these terrorist powers. the mystical countries that are controlled by the terrorists and help

fund the terrorists are armed. i would like us to arm those countries that are fighting against us imperialism and occupation. i would like us to create such problems inside the country as they want to create in our country to help the american indians to create their states to help, there are a lot of people in britain who want to gain independence. we should i would like to as a representative of civil society. i would like us to go on the counteroffensive, that's enough. we defend ourselves like this, defend ourselves, there and so on, and i would like to say this, no, no matter how militant a person is, to be honest, this is a purely wounding system. this is purely defensive. because if we were sentenced shamelessly without ceremoniously understand, it is violating all international rules of norms. ethics, absolutely trampled on everything and speak specifically. we want to kill you. honey, we want you dismember, and we will do it all with the help of your

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predict general positions, tune in on the spot fm channel russia 1 we continue our discussion. this is when i saw these videos, which i promised to show you to all these studios, who are watching us on tv. so i asked myself after this question, what is worse than illiteracy or illiteracy. so, and then i began to think about what they still suffer from these two ailments. uh. well, that means they have one. uh, military military, he made a career in the general staff served. here he talks about historical topics. retired colonel. well, in principle , historically, if you look at the coexistence of two our states proved to be impossible

starting. as far as i understand, it was probably also in this same vladimir who yaroslav the wise expelled ivan kalita for non-payment of taxes and ivan kalita in the backyards of kievan rus founded that moscow and then yuri dolgoruky built the first cry. well you see all our reaction? yes, because, well , 250 years have passed between yaroslav the wise and ivan kalita. so, well, as he kicked out. when are you when you are born in 10 years, yes, that is, long -armed somehow turned out to be long-armed. i feel very well it turned out, because for a long time the hands were not so much ahead of ivan kalita, but, but still, in general. as gordon rejoiced, just gordon agreed, but the truth is the same man, he says, well, no. well, you, if

the interior is even a journalist, but if someone, well, made a mistake, okay, or misspoke or alienates, well , at least you somehow. well, take it no. so everything and it is necessary it is normal. you understand that all of them are built on this. well, the strategy is hysterical, yes, it is such pseudo-knowledge in relation to it. uh, there is one more character to russia. to they call the character that way now, as she is a deputy. she is a blogger, a certain liza bogutskaya. here she also spoke on historical topics, but it was already close to us about the great patriotic war. look. what is curious is that in the forty-fifth, too, not russia won and most of all died, you and uh, ukrainians. i still remember from school history later how many films how many i remember, the first ukrainian front, the second ukrainian front, the third ukrainian, the fourth belarusian, the russian fronts. do you remember

russian and remember, well, there was the far east, that is, some regional ones, but so that the musical masses could say there were none. here is a deep build. truth well, stupidity erected, just a virtue. yes, but you understand in the west they repeat everywhere. she just understands in the west, this idea with these ukrainian fronts. these are just fixed ideas, when you begin to explain the essence to them, they simply do not understand this. they. well, well, well, this is the ukrainian front, so this is what it is. here it is the ukrainian fronts. let's be here you start saying this when, uh, but explaining all this is such a creation. the impression is that all of them are not that they did not study at school. i have a complete feeling that there is stupefaction to such an extent that they are useless. so you say, illiteracy or illiteracy, illiteracy is better, because i came to the same thing, yes, because this colonel, but at least he knows the names, yes, dolgorukiy kalita

knows the names, well, how did all these ukrainian princes help him. who knows, leave everyone, of course, who were expelled by yaroslav the wise. naturally, yes. you you know, but it's not funny. after all, this is not funny, because actions are being built on this system of ideological forgeries and falsifications, because today, on what bogutskaya said, an arch in the center of kiev was demolished, which was installed on the anniversary of the reunification of ukraine with russia and the monument was destroyed. look at this. here they are in front of the monument there are the figures of two ukrainian and russian workers. yes, it must be demolished and this arch was demolished. anniversary victory. on the basis of what, on the basis of the knowledge that bogutskaya tells or this colonel dougie, indeed on the one hand. and here they are, sawing the monument in honor of the winners, but

in general, this war with monuments, of course, it 's terrible to look at it all. unfortunately, we can't do anything about it yet, but i hope it will be in the territories where we came. uh, russian troops and troops of the dpr lpr. monuments are being restored there. it's reassuring. i hope that the time will come when these monuments will be installed and not only in ukraine but. well, in general, this is historical, but the struggle, oh, which we have a lot yes, we said yes, and in our radio programs with you dima and in others. yes, for years, probably, well, i don’t know, there 10 we are talking about this, that this is not a struggle for history, not for textbooks. struggle. this is not uh, not a fight in silence, but these scientific conferences of some kind . etc. this is a very serious fight, which, uh, sooner or later will just come to the forefront and it really happened, we see it now. yes, we see, uh, all those attempts that were about uh, the great patriotic war, if you remember different e now foreign agents

and uh, they threw in all kinds of uh, radio stations, tv channels , there were discussions around leningrad and whether it was necessary to hand over e and there or not to hand over all these all these would drink bavarian and so on. yes, someone laughed, someone was indignant, but they perceived it as a kind of private opinion. actually. it was a war that was deliberately imposed, that was launched into all these discussions, not even along the outer perimeter. and inside our society you know. e. here, if you remember, you remember, uh, what was said, yes, and now it is said about the immortal regiment. really perfect crystal. uh, perfect crystal here. this is an action that well, i don’t know what can be even more majestic and more correct to come up with about the memory of the great patriotic war when the memory of a human family. yes, the historical state memory is in this one action,

yes, to connect you remember how they poured mud on it, and on the air on the air, almost federal, you know, there were people who spoke about it pejoratively, just poured slop there was a real war then declared and of course. well , this is, well, unfortunately. ah. in our country, including in our country, sometimes education among people is so historical that they will swallow it and calitus. e yaroslav unfortunately, this must be absolutely precisely understood, and something must be done about it. here is the question that historical education is very accurate. it is necessary to understand many times talking with textbooks. that was the initiative of the minister of enlightenment to start giving something there with cool. that's my personal point of view. we have a wonderful experience of the soviet books. uh, stories about the history of the ussr, but then it appeared in the fourth grade. right now, children are more infantile in some ways, and more advanced in some ways. i don’t see any problem if

a book like stories on the history of the soviet union, only stories about the history of russia, is given to children to read from the first grade, there is no difficulty or problem. i don't see it with this. i personally agree with you. that's when they say first class early late is ok. everything can be adapted. the only thing. yes, the story must be given from the first class. let's just decide what kind of story we will bring to the mortal regiment. you can always go to the berlin police. uh, according to the immortal regiment in germany in berlin, they said. of course, you can leave, but the number of flags. we will limit it. we will set a clear number of flags that you will and for each extra flag you will be responsible. here's your attitude to the immortal regiment in berlin, and how they will count, there will be people who will be there will be anti-german reviews. i think there will be ukrainian activists who will also be there they will stand and count the number of these

flags. this is official information, but they could not ban it either. yes, this is also an indicator. come on, as for the falsification of history, i recently watched polish analytics about what is happening, you know what they write? india and china may make peace, because they will solve the camera issue together. well, kashmir is india, pakistan, that is, the level of analysts in nato, so to speak, they do not even understand what is happening in other places. it's all the bologna system. what is falsification history, in my opinion. this is a continuation of russophobia in order to take control of our resources. you understand russophobia - this is in my opinion. this is a geographical concept. why is europe where russophobia was born and flourishes? a land without resources, you know such a peninsula of eurasia, by the way, as one french philosopher called it. i really liked it. i read this about 15 years ago europe peninsula of eurasia resources. no, a little oil, a little

gas. if you look at the periodic table, there is nothing at all, which means that you need to hunchback with russia not it turns out. how many times they walked along the paths, they got from the bow, they went to asia and went to africa, south america , they robbed everyone, now again they remain without resources and someone needs to be cut and their task. change brains here in russia so that russia would then crawl with a distorted history with distorted brains to them, and they would come here and enjoy our resources. this is the meaning of the bologna system. we have a sense of falsifying history. if you want, this is my opinion one of the meanings. yes, in this background, what we are discussing, of course, the most important today's events are the visit of the un secretary general yes antonio guterres to moscow, while the first part, in my opinion, did not go very well. yes, communication with minister lavrov there is still a meeting with president putin on the one hand. of course , the un system itself and the un security council, unfortunately, were indirectly devalued in 1999. yes, when president

yeltsin was still saying that without a resolution, the council from the un began to bomb monuments registered by unesco, this meant the bombing of yugoslavia on the other sides. it seems to me that this is a trend, and there is no need to break the last remaining negotiating institutions that can contribute to the peace process. hmm. listen, but you need to find some way out , especially since today they still have e, the initiative of liechtenstein. uh, there will be a very important vote on the future of the future structure of the un and there will be discussion of the right century. and, of course, it is obvious that this resolution will be directed against china and against the united states, which, as a rule , inserts, in the opinion of our western friends partners stick china and russia wheels. yes, yes china russia yes china russia who usually use this right, the veto is always used by the americans do not use the americans practically do not use it, because they introduce the agenda they introduce from the point of view. they used and the last time

they used it more than anything. they will condone reform. uh, this reform of the un security council, and because now if you contribute, if you use the right century, you will need to justify yourself to to all joint un why did you use the right vet that is, like a naughty student in front of a teacher there? you will be required to report on your decision. oh, very, by the way, sergey lavrov during the press conference also touched on this topic very and strictly so uh, let's say he condemned this in general . and even this is the stage of this voting discussion, nevertheless. i really hope that this institution will be preserved, because, uh, we are now really at some kind of turning point, and right now, literally everything is at your fingertips happening. if they can’t, uh, somehow agree, if they can’t, uh, this uh, in fact, the trend of global regulation of peace processes, will continue, that one is incomprehensible. how the situation will develop further. it will be just chaotic anarchic, but at the same time we

were told that the purposefulness of the system it destroys the americans. it's very easy to go through, starting from the ninety-ninth year. the people , well, the bombing of yugoslavia does not agree at all. and then yes, and then everything went, went on there was a topic on which i immediately tensed. a world according to the rules, and not according to international law, as soon as it arose, but in a world according to the rules, where there is one who writes the rules, the rest must comply with none. he is not needed. that's why the americans purposefully destroy it. well, about memory. eh, here, the baltic states, together with the poles, are running ahead of everyone, and by the way, it is she who, destroying the monument, dictates to the rest of europe how to behave? well, in latvia, uh, the monument, uh, was destroyed, and this, uh, as far as i understand, uh, on burial place. yes, that's vandalism, yes, and in lithuania,

e. show me, please, a photograph of a sculpture of a soviet soldier, but somewhere, uh, it is being taken out in an unknown direction. this is how you have already spoken about poland. by the way , once upon a time for myself, i formulated that there is a film back to the future. well, there are many of them . uh, fantastic stories flew. uh, to the past to do something there. yes, to change something in the present, and at some point i realized that it was not necessary to fly into the past. it is does not exist by itself, it exists only in the knowledge of the past and it is enough to change the knowledge. and you will change the real knowledge about the past. change it and after some time you will become real; others do not need any time machine that will take you there. yes, you know, it's about knowledge. this is a really interesting moment, i see.