shine is a separate state, which then fought all the time with but the muscovites fought all the time for their identity and ukrainian ukrainianness. uh, further they mean, so, if we talk about the second world war, then it’s not otherwise. here are the textbooks. she is in the fifth grade in the seventh grade only since the awaiting war. that's all there was there was no other, but the nupa who fought for ukraine, otherwise it was the soviet german war, and therefore we will be for the aulup, because that tyrant sorted things out. we have nothing to do with it, and therefore the half-book is still on stories about the heroes of unupa, and the war there was somewhere nearby, and the rest of the time there was a war for the independence of ukraine because of it they fought very hard in the forests, but these representatives of alup, so when you know when maxim here he appeals, yes, that is, well, the future there is a high professional journalism, yes, that is, understanding, that is, you really think that in a family where mom and mom, and they adopt a girl, what does a girl mean to her after that, for 18 years, having lived in this family, she will then come out and say, as it were, but to me there will be a boy, because i want another family.

i will give you an idea of ​​another family. yes , you really think so, you really think that a huge number, if you turn off the alternative point of view in the media, that people will have some kind of chance for reasoning, that is, there is always only a certain number of people in society who are able to reason this the work was analyzed from my remarks, you were pushed to this, uh, maximum once again. i say, i said something before a similar topic. maxim you said on similar topics about what the finns and so they always they primordially understand, they are free in reasoning. that is why they will make decisions based on their knowledge. and i'm telling you that now, on command, they turned off alternative knowledge; they turned off alternative information. yes , they will definitely twitch for a while. here, as in the baltic states, yes, that is, they still pulled on the ninth of may, they gathered and went to lay flowers on the monument, and then the guys who are at the head, about which the americans are already. they say that us going there, and you take it, what the hell away from the monument what? in general, it didn’t hurt my eyes, but

we already closed the media in the media, we didn’t mention it in the media. there is no story about the defeated donetsk, but by definition there is not, but for eight years here, and the donbass defended its right to live there. it just doesn't exist in finland. maxim, tell me, who from finam knows about this, yes, that is, and why why didn’t they ask about nato in ukraine? why didn’t they say a word about the referendum about nato? yes, i understand that your whole point of view is usually clamped you take 60% of the time to tell, yes, therefore, i would say, maxim say yes, you know, dmitry will not give me a word, so i am silent. here's how it got out. and i will give what will happen next, and oks really. do you want more? speak , i'll tell you. yes, most of all say i give, i give, only briefly. only briefly. well, actually. and when was the last time you were in finland, the finns talked maxim and when were you in the donbass, when tell me about him, and i don’t tell you about him, that i will regularly remind you, i donbass because there are experts on

donbass like you? i am? it seems to me that i know finland a little better, so it seems to me, let's not measure ourselves with questions about what is needed less and who needs more, but i told you that you are. i respect you, the impact. you start to settle on some scores. you can say well in finland, you say, when there will be a topic, because, frankly , i won’t accept this. no one here is going to say that. it seems to me that i understand better than you, so you believe me this is not the way to discuss. uh, really max uh, vasily, how did you like it, you belong to a nation that is 143.000 and uh of what is called a textbook. i'll tell you this. uh, i won't defend, much less the department of defense. they are the ministry of education of the current ukraine, i have criticism. there is more to him than even mr. nebenzia, but i will only say that by my own example, for example, if i want, and with my son to talk about the great patriotic war in kiev, we go to the museum. feeling guilty, i

show him, tell me they ask a question, and he also with the mother's daughter. yes, but uh, that is, i uh by personal example. yes, it is difficult for children in ukraine , because when a daughter speaks, well, she writes to a book . i say the truth is in what we are discussing. well, at school you are forced to, this is your personal position, but you understand, i put this story in the light of what you discussed with maxim. you understand that it is being formed here, well, in the mass. yes, massage is forming, uh, the theory of superiority. he directly said that this, uh, doesn’t suit me either arranges. i have a lot more criticism, but considering, uh, little time and the fact that today is friday. i would like to say about the most important problem that is now in ukraine, and yes , this is directly related to superiority, namely to others yesterday. uh, holy synod of the ukrainian orthodox church. the statement adopted a decision

issued a statement that gathers everyone, that is, a general meeting, if in a simple way, yes, bishops, priests, lay clergy, and so on for what in order to discuss the most the main questions that exist today, the largest, at least in terms of the number of parishioners, the church in ukraine the fact is that at the local level it is already over. eh, at least the last month is. uh, the leaders of the local ukrainian communities, who are forbidden on their territory. they just take it and say that the ukrainian orthodox church will not exist in our country. why because either in the kiev region or chernihiv or sumy where they were, and some russian soldiers the priests, uh, let's say, collaborated with the occupying forces. done, it's not done . that is, it was an avalanche at the beginning of the deputies of the supreme council they proposed a bill

to ban the ukrainian orthodox church. well , the moscow patriarchate, as they say, now it has gone locally. not only that, i told you in this studio that there is a problem, and that in relation to the ukrainian orthodox church. e our kiev and moscow e, the russian orthodox church in relation to the war in ukraine, the ukrainian orthodox church said immediately metropolitan of ufa this is a fratricidal war. and yet , no matter what the problem is, between the two churches there is a problem within the church. you see how it is used, including here in ukraine, at the local level, what is called a civil war. what could be causing this conflict? yes, i don't know how the society. e how to vote, what they say about, but dmitry, see war military operations. how much they split even that one. well, which is the most

numerous, which is really. well let's say one of the scrapers. maybe i'll take such courage, talk about what the state of ukraine is essentially in spirit, even there there is a split, in fact. i don't know why we think in the spirit of perfectly speaking, and the reason for everything is the war. yes vasily vasily so you said, now you listen to others, i will give the floor, but first i will tell you, you know, this is how they like to hide behind it. uh, the ends were justified by the means and such a dilemma. let's bet, actually, this is bullshit, the paracel justifies the means, because ends are ends, means are means, and people justify and condemn people. so. yes listen to me, please, listen to me, please. yes , because when this went on for 8 years and the ukrainian orthodox church said that this was a murderous war, or did not say it. she

spoke correctly. nothing, i'll remind you, i showed the video here. it was the very first days of march, when, uh, ukrainian nationalists and all these bahts went to rob the church. i told you that they will achieve it, because there is no split. and there are second actions. listen to me. there is an action that creates a split. this is not a war. this is the action of these specific bastards who come to parishes and begin to carry out massacres, and the rest of the parishes begin to experience fear along with their priests. here's how it works. war is a pretext, a split and fear and terror. this is the action of specific people, you understand what is the matter of specific people, and instead of judging

those who come unconditionally, you begin to justify these terrorists, where are my wars. here this is my opinion, vasily, the consequences, that is, when when you started, that is, the split occurred earlier, that is, when, in the ninety-second year, kravchuk took the unr kleinods in his hands and wrote down in the state in law. you, as a lawyer, you know this, wrote down the successor to the ussr yes, that is, they tried to collect a hedgehog and horror. yes, that is, and then yurchenko came, who tried to put red army soldiers at the same table. and oh, he's upa. yes, that is, and then, well, when i, when, with the help of a coup, those who yes a minority, yes, who were for so many of them there 2%, yes, that is, who took power and began to write laws that began to establish rules. it was after that that it exploded. yes, and after that, when 8 years is eight years, yes, that is, we

told you guys, respect our rights to speak our language, have relations with russia, respect our right to make decisions. respect our rights. here on there to separate. if we don't like it, yes, that is, today the greens repeat the same thing in an interview, but only he talks about ukraine well, he didn't care for 8 years with us alone until 8:00, and today he turned around, and he had a discovery. well, 8 years, when they fooled us , ukraine was stuffed with weapons, and you were preparing for war, and they knew about it. vasily dmitrievich nocification and regulation, that is, a decrease in the general educational cultural level, are directly connected, because nocification, as we have said a lot , includes the power of organized crime groups, but organized crime groups have no moral priorities at all. well, like hitler, i save you from muksovesti, but according to the principle of operation is organized crime groups yes, and bandits, but this is very important, that is, they have them, well, it's even, well, holy destruction. yes, burn cotton wool, yes, that is, this is an element, including, well, the inquisition, that is,

well, such a sacred action, therefore, well, it’s very interesting, i watched how these keys were selected for different peoples, for example, for the moldovans a sense of superiority and moldovan nazism. yes , moldovan through the fact that they are the heirs of the romans. that is, everything means barbarians, and they are in force. well, because the moldovan language is similar, it is vulgar latin jupiter, that is, from jupiter that is, these are the heirs of the legion of kazakhs, who are generally from e. well, they have europe, on the contrary, they are the heirs of genghis khan, and who are the russians? these are those who daniki them in general, and also the second question in a certain kind of co- and quarrels, for example, in kazakhstan it implements programs on the idealization of the golden horde about what it means that daniki live beyond the urals, historical, yes, then there is also this not only for the cauldron. well, this is for, let's say, turkic. they tried to climb to us, including in tatarstan with such ideas. yes, that is it technologies that are artificially aimed at

splitting and in which parts of lid play because what we saw in ukraine if part of the local elites did not support it. if i didn’t see their nishtyaks in this, the donetsk elites, including the western elites, would not have concluded the alliance that we have an economy, you have an ideology and education. and this one was. well, it was a pact. he was imprisoned somewhere in the middle of the late nineties. well , if you love the right humanitarian intelligentsia - it's you, the economy, factories, mines - it's us present. well, it was. and if they did n't, it would never happen, but the technology is from abroad, like the romans and how great. here we always know well what happened in the past. eh, only in different ways, but poor history, how they just don’t interpret it. something does not write. whatever textbooks are published about it, but there is one important statement. it may be harsh, but history is written by the winners. here are those who

have the opportunity today. you are the physical ability to write such a book print it and slip it into the school, it means these people are now in power, they can do it, and the people are either afraid or support it, which is scary to say, and so on and so on and so on. here it is swallowed. yes, this is a very important moment, and in ukraine you should celebrate it and say it. in every possible way, but we still need to look at ourselves, it seems to me, because you are like you in our bookstores. we , according to the textbooks, seem to have more or less put things in order. it's done right should be unified concept, then you think that you even want about ay well, upa, if you really really want it, but there should be basic values, because in my opinion, i thought for myself that i would come up with some kind of wording for this story. we must understand. we were taking mariupol so that ikea would return, or we take memoriupol so

that this ikea would fall to hell in tartars. and we would become a new absolutely important independent country. of course, we are fighting the fascists with the nazis and so on, but we must have in mind that for such a fight. we need to be more careful. look after yourself. this is a very important point. but this is different. i think the topic is definitely a very important point, definitely a very important one. i support. i'm just objectization with ikea. i wouldn't reduce, i wouldn't reduce our self to the presence and absence of some just any trademark, but the average is not for a dispute. yes, i agree, by the way , yes, that's because i have such projections. well, you confirm that projections. i'm just closing this topic, because the son is concerned. he really worried really worried. you know vasily dmitrievich for me, for you and for me, too , as a person who considers himself orthodox

, i have a sad forecast in this sense, you understand, because what is happening you well, since you really feel the danger and there is fear, therefore you describe it all like this . and i will not close my eyes, because i see it all much more harshly than you describe now, these bandits with weapons and these terrorists will force the ukrainian orthodox to renounce. from the mother church under power terror burning destruction destroying the churches of their capture the condition that they are not killed will be renunciation. and this will still be such a split, because someone, perhaps, will renounce. i don’t know, maybe no one will cut it off, and someone definitely won’t renounce. do you understand what they are doing? and you talk about the war, what the hell war? again

, this is the chef. and the requirement will be to renounce your church to all the orthodox of this church of ours. this is where the real horror lies. and that's what the new stage and then the new evolution and new escalation of the war. which will be, i'm just telling you, you're looking at the wrong thing. well, probably here i’ll show you another story, because it’s kind of on topic, although it’s about something else. but, well, in general, this is how the azov nazis talk to everyone. e with israeli radio and television. it's this here. well, just look at what historical reality we live in. you know, they constantly compared you there, i don’t know, with the brest fortress, and lately you have been compared not even with the brest fortress, and with masada, this is a legendary jewish fortress that held back the advance of the romans for several

years, and in the end, when the romans broke in there, all the last defenders of masada simply killed each other, killed their wives, children and did not surrender to the occupier. this is israeli radio and television. there it is volyn, yes, and powder all the time. this is volyn, the leaders of these very ones. uh, well, one of the leaders of these nazis. he does not hide that he is us, and now you understand? i'm not even personally to the host i have a question here. in general, how it’s possible that well, it’s clearly a nazi organization, and israel is in israel, and they are discussing this, drawing hmm parallels with cultural and historical dogmas, yes, and, well, the jewish people, and it all rolls over, and at the same time all of israel is used. as

a cover, israel does not see nazism, and since israel is the main expert of france, if israel does not see nazism. so it's not there. you understand how monstrously built the technology is. and this is the chatter that is used for what i said inside the dagi schema first. well, as far as i remember, uh, this one, uh, the whole conversation about azovsteel and its comparison who was the first to do it? this is what the writer dmitry glukhovsky did, by the way, also, who also has israeli citizenship. he was the first to compare, which means that the defenders of azov became the defenders of the brest fortress. do you understand me? i'll tell you honestly. i just, when i saw it, well, with all my attitude there to the glukhov gentleman. well, it still freaked me out. you just understand, uh, that is, to compare the people who stood there for their country, and uh different nationalities who wrote we are dying, but we do not

give up with these, who have already addressed the pope to this very sexual minority of sportloto and so on, uh, so that they are pulled out of there. a third country and so on to compare these people here, who have these swastikas on all parts of their bodies, there and so on, who are absolutely not covered, uh, anti-semites. well, just no. well, just not human. yes, there are terrible crimes, about which they are now telling. it 's simple. well, uh, really hair stand on end and i asked this very important question. and this is this parallel, you understand, it is designed, either for people who, well, simply without some kind of critical thinking, or they are simply deprived of any historical memory of any kind of nazis against russians - this is not nazism. you see, here comes a substitution, that is, and now people of certain nationalities can determine whether it is nazism or not

, you understand, and you can compare these scum with the defenders of the brest fortress with heroes and you can’t brest fortress. this is what is close to us and we this is unacceptable, everything boils up with us. yes, but it ’s also interesting there, legendary. legend historians yes which is well one of the cultural one of the cultural bonds of the jewish people. yes, to make it clear, it is used to justify these, yes, that is, it turns out that, well, the whole history of the jewish people is used to cover, they themselves gave, i asked this question directly at the word of israel in russia asked. you are really the experts in this matter. and why are you so e to this attitude? no, we did something. that's when stepan bandera street appeared we made a strong protest. here it is, but again, you know, the answer was very interesting, very symptomatic. that's when it's

over. we are ready to enter said the ambassador. uh, we're ready to go in. in general, in that is, a certain commission that would understand this at all or we do not refuse. we are now taking part, that is, like this, on the one hand, this is like an official point of view, such a neat, neat point, friends, on the other on the other hand, what we see today on this one , this one, probably, the story will be more authentic. yes , maxim, i prefer not to discuss sensitive topics on the jewish topic in general. i think dmitry you will have the opportunity to often see him with him, here is yakov kedmi to ask a question to whom solovyov? i'm because i don't have a drop of that blood. i'm very delicate, so i'll say the only thing. i am very surprised by this statement. you know i'm just and that's the only thing, uh, i'm also very delicate. if you notice, yes, and i don't have any. i just here i see how the design is arranged i do not blame anyone between. i'm just saying a very simple thing. what kind of world have we lived to when the victim of

nazism is very strong. uh, the jewish people and their history is used to cover up cynically used in the most isolated way to cover up the new crimes of nazism. that's what i'm talking about. and the last thing you know, in general, the content of any blood. it doesn't matter, absolutely. here, well, that's exactly by blood. i'm nobody 's rights, but there's something to talk about or think about i will not measure. what are any general rights or obligations on the principle of blood. that's because once the memory there is a matter of delicacy girl people. i can safely somewhere even provocatively say self-flagellation. but look at other people. this is not the principle of blood. especially this is not the principle of blood, because as soon as you know to introduce the principle of blood and fundamentalism, ethnic self-identification, everything is

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dr. myasnikov receives on saturday and sunday at 12:15 only on the channel, russia this is a program, who is against on channel russia 1, we continue our discussion. you know, these are all the swings for the need to overcome the arranged provocations, in general, no one in the world has anything to do with this, because i'm looking at america, what is happening there? i understand that the terminology of ukrainians. there is a big scourge in there. i said yesterday or the day before yesterday in the program that 58 senators. the congressmen who voted against these forty billion are a lot in the situation that now reigns in the political air there. yes, a lot, but all this has become a confirmation. and i just understand that very many people want to build up right now from what will happen in a few months. that

literally caused a sensation everywhere what he did. uh, senator rent, ugh, look. i have been sworn in to the us constitution in no other country and no matter how much i sympathize with the cause my oath is for the national security of the united states of america we cannot save dooming ukraine at the same time the us economy in march, inflation reached gasoline prices rose by 49 , electricity prices rose by 32. yes, and rand completely blocked the promotion of the project to allocate forty billion, demanding the introduction of a special inspector into the bill of the controlling authority, who will spend the funds. the topic came up immediately picked up very carefully to act doublet donald trump well, junior, because senior yet. well, he will speak out these assessments

later, but enough trump jr. this is launched. this is zelensky recognizable. it's not us, it's the son of donald, trump did this, that's 40 billion. at least the americans are suffering in ukraine, it's raining. and we have a shortage of infant formula excellent work guys, at least 7 dollars of them will go to help, the real ukrainians the rest is a rollback of a big war and a corrupt politician. yes, that's topic topic started what is the name of the translation? standing, that is, edible right? that is, this is a translation from ukrainian real ukrainians - this is a slave in general, in fact. i think we see crossing hangings, because may is the last month when american voters are determined for the fall. well, according to american experts. that is, after may the situation will not change and, on the one hand, the wildest inflation