are you there such dozens, at least? yes, i'm here just to draw vasilina's attention, because this is the story of the creation - well, god forbid that everything really happens as planned. after all, this is the result of agreements between those who sat on nitrogen, the troops became directly with our troops. this is not a decision of kiev, this is not a decision of zelensky, or someone there, or the leadership of rimsky and a nylon mask, and not that and paris vision. in my opinion, on the one hand, it is necessary to understand that this is the unkind will of the leadership of ukraine, and on the other hand. this is very it’s clear if it comes to the rest of the other military units, which are in such a position that they can directly communicate with the armed forces of russia and surrender and save their lives. and not only to give up and save your life, but to stop this pointless pointless completely um. well, a thresher, yes, because they are really there in this

donbass. well, not yet a cauldron, but in a semi-encircled donbass, but then everything is clear. this well, again, i do not want to run anywhere, there and so on. well total line absolutely. understood in this part. you know. there is such an expression that nothing decorates. uh, nothing decorates the movement more than its grave at the base, so when we talk about the fact that there zelensky was trying to save these guys. this is who he tried to save those guys from azov who came to him this administration and put pressure on political decision-making, and he needs these guys in general. well , in principle, they need them or not. it's just understand the period, even the war, he tries solve issues of strengthening their power and the more people. and such activists will go there, the more they are disposed of there, the better for zelensky. e. pay attention vasil decides that the terror defense can go to fight on the front line. it would seem that people,

well, civilians are absolutely not ready for this, they are sent there. again, who is the bearded dog. who are these people there? as a rule, these are activists. you yourself understand that, as a rule, these are regional activists, what needs to be done with these send activists there to go to war, especially violent ones, yes, who are there, so you don’t need to look at these processes linearly like that, they say, everything is consolidated there. everyone has a single position to defend the interests of ukraine, uh, to fight for ukraine there, everyone has their own interests, based on their own interests. they make appropriate decisions, so to speak, so if these guys with nitrogen died. i think zelensky, of course, would mourn, would tell everything. well, somewhere deep in the soul. well, thank god well, and okay and everything. well, of course, i touched another line that lives are important to me from any side, because what kind of look if it hurts you

, people will remain alive and who are in luhansk and who are in donetsk who are in zaporozhye who in kiev you understand all over the world, because this now is the point here you understand this is the point today, the specific situation. and where does his presidential and his statements of the population. no, moreover, zelensky should clearly speak very zelensky theoretically. you yourself operate, if he were the president, there they are the acting president, then. yes, he could give a reasonable order. well, this is for yourself. again , leaks leaks from all of yours, these e from your politicians, who will write on themselves constantly, that you have a conflict there between you and the administration. because the administration is a pr front, they cannot allow an information defeat, because this is the only space where they can create the illusion of victory. and the listeners and the military tell us

tryndets there, if we don’t move away, so you sort things out with spiridon. there is such a political political practice, when everything is bad, bad people gather around their president. these are some kind of miracle, some kind of support for such a certain moment. that is, here's the moment, how to say that let's surrender everything to this, this is the best life. as they say in russia, this moment has not yet come. now, if he doesn’t die there , then he will perform a mournful physio. here to feel sorry for him there this situation makes the present dictator. and this place is amazingly profitable, there money goes and no responsibility. well, these are the hands that came from the east of these unfortunate our threads. yes, and generally crushed, that is, and when he said, when that's enough. stop doing them. let's negotiate. let's somehow solve problems so that the guys do not die, pull out of the bunkers and this moment. unfortunately, it has not yet arrived, but zelensky is pulling it off with all his might, this is power, and in ukraine

, power is money very briefly very briefly you know in the conditions of a theatrical president theatrical parliament and theatrical as it ain't ain't no war sounds. yes, it is hard to imagine the president took responsibility and made some political decisions, for which he will then have to bear some responsibility. but this is me in general, i imagine how this is an illustration of what was built with a stick. here is the news today. again, we are not gloating. and in general, we do not tend to. from the very beginning we said, take your treatment and we will be calm with you in accordance with all norms and conventions understand. it was the position of russia fucking, moreover, not russia's simple military there was such a position. how many records of ours, well, military correspondents and those who fight. the fact that we are not striving to destroy them, by the way, you understand the difference. compare one single record from that side and from our side guys who are working under the bullets of blood and health. without regret they write that we

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i agree with those of the experts, including uh, and sergey alexandrovich karaganov and fedoksan slushyanov wrote a lot about this. and when they they say that today, just as in the seventeenth and ninety-first years of the last century, we are faced with the choice of the historical path of external circumstances. not only have they radically changed, but, as fyodor alexandrovich said, they are changing every day, deeper and wider. it doesn’t work out, but we decided to feel our country more deeply. and of course, it changes along with these circumstances, and conclusions are drawn, which we are now drawing, but have already done in essence. uh, appeals to what the collective west has announced to us total hybrid war. and it's hard to predict. how long this will last, but it is clear that the consequences will be felt by everyone without exception. we did everything to avoid a direct

collision, but since the challenge is thrown, we, of course, accept it as a sanction. we are no strangers to them in one form or another, they were almost always, which is surprising. so it's uh absolutely cavernous. and the russophobic surge that occurred in all the so -called civilized countries, political correctness is the decency of the rule, and with them the legal norms. just discarded applied the culture of the exchange of all russian and any hostile actions against our country, including outright robbery, are allowed. in fact, absolutely absolutely true things and the only thing that didn't quite me. i agree sergey viktorovich well, he says it has begun. uh, hybrid warfare, it's not hybrid, it's all-encompassing, i mean, it goes all over the place. we are now here do not agree the case. yes, the fact is that we, by the way, know this from

our own discussions for many years, that we have certain difficulties with the exact concept of the new type of war. yes, they are used here. what words only they are used hybrid is the most harmless, because it is. well, you know, ukrainians are just a hybrid word. so blurry. yes, that is, they are the word hybrid, but they called anything. and now we understand that literally the war is going on. here, in all planes, there is a war of a new type, probably because they began with seemingly harmless economic sanctions. let's get small let's get a little bigger. let's have a little more. and now economic sanctions came to the conclusion that and let's take away the property of the lord from them in general, how is it the western world? on direct private property so you cut completely on all your basic principles. yes, that is, but let's take it, let's take it from russia , well, that is, there they flooded the gold reserves there, which are stored in banks, and in the west, yes, that is, the principles of banks already exist, only under political conditions. that is the same story, the information war. yes, that is, then we

we spoke freedom of speech must all be right mutual penetration. integration all our channels broadcast, everything works for you, and then click. yes, and everything turned off for us and all the channels of this freedom is based simply opened with a copper basin. that is, we just automatically instantly reformatted. they are simply under the element of war. and it would seem, yes, that is eurovision yes, that is, well, what else, yes? that is, well, here on the playground, well, this is happiness, this is peace. it's all good. no, this is also a war. it is too. let's know about the last eurovision. yes, if a man from western ukraine went to the center of this hall, 3 minutes, sat on a stool, silently left. he would still get first place. here is the situation , such is the commandant. now the formula has been formulated here in this world, it's going like this. i absolutely agree, but starting today at the dkb. and alexander grigoryevich yes, lukashenka said, he says there is a redistribution of the world, there is a move and the rules do not care, the norms do not care. everything else was a wrapper. actually. here is the inside. she is now

starting to work, the second there is sweden and finland you cannot be apart. you are either there or here, you have no options and the world must be divided into white and black, no one will be able to stay aside. we will use all the mechanisms that are available to us in order to drive you into one corner or another. well, if we touch on rodion's speech by alexander grigorievich, then our guest from belarus here and the word to convey. lukashenko said thanks, not only about this. he also said that the old rules will never work again. that is, we probably we are at the stage of the collapse of the former world order. in fact, probably, uh, somewhere, uh, we may be living out the last calm days, because uh, being here in moscow, i frankly do not feel it. well, except for the audience of a talk show of a political nature, it does not feel that in ukraine not so far from here there is a bloody war of liberation waged by the russian federation. in fact, far from all

ukrainians in ukraine are aware of this at the present stage, because both propaganda and uh, which means it can be our insufficiently effective explanatory work has led to the fact that a significant part of the population of ukraine today is clouded and resists to get rid of the terrible nazi regime of the regime of the dependent puppet regime, which is actually installed there, i remind you that even at the initial stage of the special operation. you already remember there were peace talks. not everyone supported this process, however. uh, ukraine was offered a relatively normal option, which means, uh, stabilization situation and, at least according to initial data, the ukrainian side. perhaps it was a military trick, but nevertheless, they went to these negotiations, that, then johnson arrived, everything changed exactly by 180 °. they were promised further pumping with weapons and it continues. this is a senseless meat grinder and resistance that

surrender is now taking place. these are the same ultra-right fighters who are settled at this plant, they have 600 wounded and in the end the result will still be the same. then let's ask ourselves, what was this resistance to? why ukraine the command destroyed, according to various sources, about 15,000 of its military personnel are not talking about thousands of civilians. here is an important question. as far as the ukrainian government is today , it really protects the interests of ukrainians in my understanding. e approximately tends even, probably, neither to zero, but below zero, the subjectivity of this power. yes, they got used to the role. they play this role wonderfully; it seems to them that they are in charge of the processes of history. it's not them that's an important point, but they don't even think. i'm already sure they are convinced of the acting inspiration, of course there are such neurons. you see, you need to get used to the role, the actor must get used to it, yes, according to the

stanislavsky system, he himself must feel reality, like to believe in this sense, if you get used to it, then you really feel euphoria, yes, maximum, well , lavrov's performance is very characteristic, anxious, they want his tone was calm, and praised hoo. what type of cave splash, well, a year ago i didn’t have such expressions from sergey viktorovich a year ago there were several cave territories different, but now here is such a situation, and in fact, listening to him and seeing the latest news. well, somehow there are no special grounds for optimism. that is, this is still a war for a long time, war can already be called war in the broad sense of the word, a big hybrid war with the western world. yes, but no one is

going to stop the bitterness on both sides. not only everything is more rigid, that we have television studios, that in ukraine in all performances. well, in general, yes, and for a few more months, probably, they will find out at the front. who does win. but, and then i hope we will still move on to stopping the fire. and i'm not going to be soon, unfortunately, i'm interested, maxim yes, according to the scheme e. well, i kind of accept, yes, let's say your scheme will be clarified everything at the front, especially in this situation to find out that at the front the west stuffed them there, yes. we openly yes because of the wings, and openly include both barrel and e, blinkin of an outstanding diplomat, who also said that everything must be decided on the battlefield. here, that is, they stuffed ukraine there, look, let's say. here now look fell. yes, i do not want to guess, but there will be a circumstance. mm, in a military sense, very

unpleasant for ukraine. that's how i will say it, and it seems to be like according to your scenario. we should make an agreement. and now i'm going to ask everyone. and what do you think, in this situation they will give zelensky? well , of course not. it's also obvious. you understand what the problem is maxim because you described the healthy logic of the subject, that is, from the other side. here he himself will not be dmitry the fact is that he is part of his society of his page. if they are set to they just talked about winning, no, you are not discussing what i said, here. mariupol is one episode of one lost battle on the fronts of the war. they call it a war that they think ours will win, so they will not go to any compositions now would be in place. zelensky i would have heard. yes, i don't mind at all. well, who understood my question here, probably, and will answer. i

argue that when a military defeat takes shape, ukrainian inevitability will take shape, when if if we are still sovereign people, but now, if you say when you jinx it in the end maxim maxim uh, well, you have to be patient, so i say it again, you see, you have drawn a negotiation scheme. and i argue that even in this scheme. i don't understand how negotiations can take place, because there is no subject. then biden should come and start talking. yes, i disagree with you. can i literally say very briefly, can zelensky sign if the defeat of ukraine is obvious and will have consequences for , say, the same united states of america of course, maybe, and it doesn't matter. under what conditions, even under conditions that, well, absolutely unacceptable for ukraine, they will force him to sign it, everything will happen

exclusively at the expense of ukraine if this is the situation. yes, if the situation is so difficult, they can force him to sign, and on absolutely unacceptable conditions, about which we can even now not assume ourselves. but this is quite possible, yes, if the patient is very seriously early or with a very neglected disease lies and no one deals with them. this is called no leash of optimism. if the patient is sent to the doctor, but he is trying to at least treat him or cut him or treat him. never mind. this is already a reason for optimism. here is the world order before yes, we had special operations, the same neglected patient who develops rot in him, there are various diseases and so on he was not treated. we are all just, roughly speaking, well, we were dying in a bad sense of the word, now what we are doing, we are really forming a new world, there is a chance that the sick, that is, the global system of international relations, can be cured and heal on new rules. this is the second time, with regard to the situation in ukraine and the ukrainian position, if the operation on

ukrainian propaganda is that they write what they say that they drive people in the head, yes, mariupol is one of the parts, but the experience is of a different kind kinds of territorial regional conflicts show that state propaganda that sells false theses of the hand to people, which is like a house of cards after some big defeat or after some event that simply destroys this propaganda is exactly like a house of cards, like a ball. after that, people very quickly sober up in an amazing way quickly. because this is where i disagree with you. and well, maybe in the same logic that maxime saw. you see what's the matter. hey, we need one here. well, they are sobering up, but for this they need to be taken out of this machine, that is, the machine that owns them, you understand the machine, must collapse. i mean , the information machine is violence. this is how she should disappear. it shows the liberated

territory not immediately, but rather quickly. by the way, remember our discussions for decades, nothing happened after that, well, 2 months have passed and most people in the liberated territories normally perceive this yes. you can immediately i do not agree about the world order, the world order was before the ninety-first year. and after the ninety- first year, we lived in a world disorder that has already gained such proportions. it just became an unacceptable mess now for only this world order it was not this world order. he in the ninety-first year ended there were two centers, everything was clear, who where with whom why counterbalances, there and so on. after that, all this was the dominance of one country, which is already. well, as it seems to me, it has become obvious for many countries. it already crosses all sorts of acceptable conceivable and inconceivable borders of one country, which is outdated rule, these rules were more or less followed. until this country went abroad. you know, i didn't go in. also

interesting. it would seem that the world master, the world hegemot. yes well, here, look about this behemonia. it was incomplete all the time, even when, in the nineties, russia, well, sort of reconciled, yes, and tom tried to click with his foot, when to push, when yugoslavia happened. yes, at least as they could, as they could, i'm not for criticism, but look at this world hegemon, i couldn't do anything shit. well, i couldn't do anything. and understandable. he can't do anything with russia, you can't do anything with china. but what to do, but nothing to do with afghanistan from north korea couldn't do anything good. do you understand? what is in other countries. here, but what to do when you cannot do something, the hegemon does not know, so fortunately, we still have some rules of the game with the western world. and here is what rodion says that the transfer of private property in the torah to sergey lavrov does not take place only unilaterally. here

today, let's say against the background of the dkb themselves. there is another important event, when a private renault plant became the property of the moscow government and quite an interesting moment. there, of course, there is a complex just not only not only, uh, renault moscow yes, it was actually transferred from the government of moscow well, controlling stakes in other enterprises that belonged to erin became the property of the russian state and the appointed company managing these stakes russian companies. yes , a very important event indeed. and, of course, again, it’s not only here. you can’t now e just look and hope how good a muscovite is now, under sobyanin, yes, he is already today sergey semyonovich announced that there will again be an internal combustion engine together with kamaz with us, but last time this new page turned into just an oka car that now no longer meets any requirements or environmental insecurity. and what did someone say that there will be a car to no, there will be a moskvich car in conjunction with kamaz companies and already match. yes, look, that's what i understand, you're

in a hurry somewhere. as far as i understand , the moskvich brand will be revived, yes. this brand is enough many years in our country. this is our brand otechestvennaya under this brand will be designed and produced a car. i am glad that we are finally doing this on our own. we didn’t succeed very well before, but for some reason now looking, for example, there is an aura. and what we have learned now. i think we will succeed, in order for us to succeed, we need to act ahead of schedule. here, sergei semenovich managed to overtake paris , uh, it turned out in one direction. he could now gevorg he was able to provide. there are more than 1.000 electric buses. in moscow ahead. paris paris was the first to want to abandon internal combustion engines, but here it happened. therefore, here, of course, there should not be any internal combustion engine. if you have already started working with kamaz, you need to take their promising development of kama-1, which they said will cost a million

rubles to bring to mind, connect it to these charging stations, where now electric buses are being charged. how to switch to a new one electric traction, because obviously this is a dead end to return to the old muscovite, because you need to understand what to do? you can today kommersant fm experts there. everyone said that it would be renault outwardly, just a muscovite would read from behind, because the heavy remained there, uh, these factories will not. this is the moscow system. how many of the car spare parts are from 25 to 30,000, they are brought from all over the world there is no such localization, not a single factory produces a measure, in general, these spare parts are assembled only to weld the fence production and producing details, the degree of localization, here the width, is quite high. by the way, here