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good afternoon. this is a program of who is against on channel russia 1 and in the studio of dmitry kulikov, the americans are very worried about the russian iranian-turkish negotiations in tehran and for some reason consider them a sign of russia's isolation well, that's how they see it. uh, as an alternative to joe biden, for two days it is not known where he solved the problems of the american people. this quote. so, at least, said his press secretary sergei viktorovich lavrov explained in europe that everyone is the blacksmith of his own happiness and the european economic collapse. russia will not be happy. well
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worry. especially it won't become too, meanwhile raids are planned in ukraine. and this is not a joke, the real one is the same as the nazis carried out in the occupied cities of the same ukraine during the great fatherland. these round-up wars are considered as an effective way to mobilize, imboyate the world to think, but the western masters do not order, and since ukraine does not want peace, then negotiations with it do not make sense, said vladimir putin at a press conference in tehran, he is doing in order to create the necessary conditions. uh with a purpose normalization of the situation. here are the famous talks. we were in istanbul when we actually arrived. uh, the agreement only needs to be initialed. hmm well , as you know, after that and after, uh , in order to create these conditions, our troops
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withdrew from the center of ukraine from kiev, the kiev authorities refused to comply. they were practically, yes. so this the end result, of course, does not depend on the intermediaries, on the desire, the parties that agreed to fulfill the agreement, we see today what is this wishes of the kyiv authorities? no, as regards turkey's efforts as well as the proposal of other countries. well, for example, the last arab emirates is also offered, uh, and they have such opportunities . we are all our friends who are interested in regulation. only the crisis of gratitude for what they provide their opportunity to contribute. e even desires to bring in some kind of flag. this is a noble cause, it is already worth a lot. yes, in general, of course, you are grateful to
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turkey and other countries that would like to somehow help, e. to establish peace and resolve conflict, but everything is clear enough. here, even special explanations are not needed, you cannot help someone who does not want this. yes, and ukraine continues to chant the same thing every day, so what is from the west they ordered to taldy, then you have to taldy there, victory is not far off, and your entire territory to them, uh, we will force russia to be at a disadvantage. and after that, we will dictate the terms to her, but if ukraine is going to continue to exist with such a position, then no last look at you will help. well, you know dear leading me to mixed feelings on the statement of the president of russia why on the one hand, it’s kind of positive that president putin says that there are countries, er, mediators, and besides turkey, he named at least two more, right? and secondly, he said that these are friends thank them for their input. ah,
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that's a positive negative. and that among the named countries there is not a single one from the west, that is, none of the countries of europe, for example, there france, which somewhere made some movements by a macron, or schultz, that is, such hope, i’m fading to the west and the third. e it is clear that president putin is talking about public policy. he is a public person. and it is clear that what it means is there is a certain, but the negotiation process that we do not see, it is not transparent. it's good. here, this is positive, what do you personally think so? i say, uh, i have mixed feelings. here i will tell you. so. here, you are still careful. here is my advice to you carefully. listen to what you say, the russian authorities have already had such situations several times , sense negotiation is not a public position coincidence. well, yes, the russian authorities
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repeatedly after april 15, starting from the beginning of may, certainly publicly gave you 2 weeks as a backlash. after that, russia repeatedly said that no negotiations are currently underway due to their impossibility and senselessness due to the fault of the ukrainian side. it's absolutely uh, absolutely clear. er, at least. oh, they talk about it. now let's look at the country of kiev at us, if the ukrainian authorities say that we are not let's go ahead and negotiate. otherwise, as on the terms of victory, that is, we must win the battle after that, yes, victory, as johnson tells you, and a mini-kuleba. yermak, the head of the office, said this yesterday. i would remove this rhetoric here, i would remove it where, it is there, as if i removed it and looked at the essence. this means that ukraine is also ready for negotiations. just here are the preconditions for, well, listen to dimitri tomorrow. he meets with putin and how the citizens of ukraine will react to this, who
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are told that we must definitely to win, that is, the people of the society of ukraine are still being prepared for the fact that such negotiations will take place. that's when they will be, i would like it to happen yesterday, and moreover, i would like it to be signed yesterday, papers and execution. and for the war to finally end. yes, i would like that. well, i understand that what you want you give for some reality, because that's exactly when i carefully study the western position. you mentioned them for nothing, and in this sense, ukraine does not have its own positions. yes anyone who is in the west, yes declares in the west, declares that it would be necessary to look for some other options. uh, it is subject to obstruction primarily by the west and ukrainian, therefore, this is your desire, but it is clear that it is not based on anything. based. let's finish all the same, at this meeting yesterday there were departments. moments and the same putin spoke, and not only
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about what he gave about the process, but about but the process of unblocking, uh, ukrainian ports and solving the grain custard problem. it will still move towards you. here, it was it was yesterday. and what am i saying that it was not, only i explained it to you three times. well, what caused it? and i understand this, absolutely. yes it is absolutely. the main thing is that it is that the process is underway. wait. yes, i think it is absolutely. just don't pass off the grain unblocking process as a peace process, because ukraine, and look , this is the road to some kind of road anyway. that's good. this is the road. don't talk to me at the same time. well , it is impossible to discuss anything and understand anything impossible. look, and you will grow up, and then you will be depressed, when you are disappointed i will explain. look at the grain with this ukraine and the west have driven themselves into a corner into a corner,
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because, well, yes, the danger of starvation of the lack of this whole thing is growing. here they began to announce that this is from russia, by the way, pay attention yesterday to the european commission. the easing of sanctions against entire groups of russian banks is motivated by the fact that they were wrong, since this limited the supply of food from russia. watch the hands of a cheater for a second. so what are you bastards for 5 months deprived for 5 months deprived the world of food supplies. you did the same and now you yourself admit it. yes, it is we, the european commission, who have deprived the world of russian food supplies for 5 months. now we're fixing it. well, what has gone astray has gone astray accumulation. prices jumped. for months, maybe the european commission will pay
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real dollars for this, or maybe they will pay something else. and to blame, russia how do you like it? how do you like this? picture? well, okay, but the main thing is that they scratched their turnips, they said in the need to correct the situation. it's already good. it's already good when people realize mistakes, and it's not worth it. it is for you. say after me 5 months the cessation of deliveries damage the fault of the european commission. this is the cause of a possible world famine. it seems to me that one of 100%, yes, they are also to blame, maybe the european commission will answer, for this he will go to africa, he maxim knows africa well, he spends them somewhere, you have to go and see. maxim a few more specialists. in this case, support programs, and, so to speak, the development of african countries. we will find escorts for them. i'm maxim i trust this part. it seems to me dmitry that you are right, but, maybe for this i’ll have a voice , maybe we’ll judge the barelium of the sursula on the
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internet on february 24 february 24 happened if we put it further here, several essences will die , god forbid, thousands it will be a shame if even one person dies of starvation, of course, and for these deaths we will judge the barrel of ursula vanderlein and charles michel on the bench, defendants for organizing the famine. how do you like this approach? for example, for me, for well , one more thing, you are all about the world about the world further wait, look for something. i would listen to lavrov’s words about the geographical changes in the word operation, very bad good, when there was a meeting of negotiators in istanbul, and there was one geography and, uh, our willingness to accept the ukrainian proposal was based on that geography on the geography of the end of march 2022, now the dpr well , if
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more or less now the geography is different, it is far from being only the dpr of the lpr. this is also kherson region, zaporozhye region, and a number of other territories, and this process continues and continues consistently and persistently. and to the extent that the west is like this, i would say in impotent malice, perhaps, or in desire in desire, but as much as possible? to aggravate the situation, ukraine is pumping more and more long-range weapons of these aimars. it seems that reznikov is already there or someone boasts that they already have 300-kilometer ammunition. they received. well , it means that the geographical task will move even further from the current line, because we cannot allow that in that part of ukraine that
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zelensky will control there or whoever replace was in a weapon that will pose a direct threat to our territory and the territory of those republics that have declared their independence and those who want to determine their future on their own. everything is clear and yesterday. by the way, during the preparation of the meeting, our officials said several times that if they ever, in the sense of ukraine, come to negotiations, then the conditions will be radically different compared to those. which were april 15th. it's officially announced hard. uh, in dmitry, you know this very well that the residents of donbass, who have been in this state for 8 years, have a much more aggravated attitude towards the negotiations and the revelations about these negotiations, therefore, but then in donetsk in luhansk they were very much afraid, that an agreement can be reached in istanbul, which is for
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us. maybe, uh, well, let's just say it doesn't quite live up to our expectations. and not even expectations, but understanding the situation. that is and now we understand we see i see the main and in the statement the president of russia and the minister of foreign affairs, and the depth of ukraine's desire for russia to resolve the conflict in a peaceful way. here russia seeks to find the maximum set of options in which not to shed blood in the wrong place, not to lead, not to destroy the state, but further down the list, that is, to find options for a peaceful resolution. well, it doesn't work. it doesn't work out, but from our point of view. we understand that we need to negotiate with such a partner as ukraine. it makes no sense they have no reason as long as ukraine is a subordinate state supervised. from the outside, their words are worth nothing, both negative and positive, no guarantees from ukraine can be accepted in this case, and therefore now, uh, that is, we see a decision on a whole list of issues, you know, such an exceptional nature,
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when vasily talks here about the possibility, and there the supply of wheat and the unblocking of ports. i have spoken many times in this studio. i see one option, and it will be the only way it will be guaranteed free and calm as soon as russia will release odessa port ports. odessa will work clearly openly and will be open for the departure of any ships. well, i mean trade, of course, but any states and trade will work in full. when they agree, but, that is, about the lines of guarantees, yes, that is, about that, its security of our state is now completely free, but dangerous, that is, the greedies arrive stakhanov arrives there, the liberated territories arrive, yes, therefore, until we will not drive away. god knows where, but most likely, there, just somewhere nothing will happen along the western border until the regime is dismantled until it is completely taken away. this is a weapon that, in principle, can shoot in our direction, nothing will happen to ukraine, it is impossible to agree on this with it, danya i am here too. eh, rodion said i remember
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the events of march 222, just about which lavrova said that there was one story about the geographical now it is different and very good. i remember the mood of the donbass people precisely at that time, because the word “negotiations” for us was e identical to, well, some new next minsk, and we really worried about what the negotiation process could do. he will lead us to another dead end again. that's when it was here is a very cautious attitude to this particular phrase about the kherson region. you know, but, in my opinion, yesterday or the day before yesterday. he made a statement to the head of the kherson region that the kiev authorities should forget about the kherson region, what will happen there after some time, there is a referendum people receive russian passports and so on and etc. you know, i took this statement very seriously. in what key does he not only speak, it is officially his torment, so that kiev hears him, yes, no matter how he teases, kiev in no case does he also do an important thing, he
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provides an image of the future to those people who are in kherson region. this is one of the very big problems. i was in mariupol was in other territories. plus all the people out there they ask a question. and it's true, here, well, for me anyway . and it's true that russia is forever, because that everyone is afraid that something else might happen, and he, with this very statement that this big armored train, or there is a train, kherson russia will not be derailed, he will not derail, kherson region sooner or late, and she entered this year already. way and sooner or later. it will be russia in fact. it confirms for the citizens of kherson this image of the future for man. this is very important, because he needs to build the future of his future of his children. and he should know. how does he it is necessary to act with regard to the ports of odessa kherson region is also a key area for the ports of
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odessa to be unblocked sooner or later, because it is kherson that will be the point e, with the help of which it will be released, odessa i will only say one thing. so you talked about the image of the future. at the same time, i want to say kherson cossacks there are parts of the kharkov region. and yet, if you have other certainties, this one, which they say is much more in order than it was certainty, our donetsk team lugan-chan has been with you for these 8 years. yes, and this must be taken into account, because this is the certainty of russia's attitude towards these people. they live in these territories, which i have listed, and possibly in others. eh, who's who. well, he wants to self-determine himself, he said this. e lavrov, here they have certainty about what future and what future russia is ready to work for ;
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passports. we are 5 years old. we were waiting for the russian preparations of the region to already receive. we put in the process similar, but the speed is completely different, and the logic of the development of this five-month plot. well , it seems to me that i don’t think that i’m just doing it there, but with this training, she strengthens this certainty every day. well, let's say that even the residents of occupied kharkiv, including even the ukrainian patriots in quotation marks, should not have any illusions about their future. just enough look at the political map here take the lines. it will measure the distance from now russian belgorod to ukrainian until it is clear to kharkov that kharkov will be liberated by those who are waiting for the russian army, we will send them rays of support, yes, you will definitely wait. those who are not ready to live with it, but let’s ask minsk, let’s, i don’t know where they will send it. that is, i definitely do not wish evil to these people, but certain things exist for absolutely everyone. and as for the plot with the grain. i will also
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add two words there. he is absolutely manipulative, of course, there are these notorious 2 million tons of grain allegedly stored or stored in ukrainian elevators. this is a negligible amount there in terms of the european market in terms of the world market. well, just for understanding, only the eu countries supply wheat. last year. they exported more than 55 million. this is only the european union without russia without ukraine, without anything , an insignificant amount, that is, they tried to play it exactly in the context in which russia is the empire of evil, respectively, putin wants to arrange a second famine, so please, putin said yes, the question is no, take it out. if something is left, take it out, it will definitely be interesting to see. how many will go along this corridor. now he is the president of turkey just now. there was a new message saying that this week an agreement will be signed on the grain corridor, it will be very
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interesting to see. how much will they take. that is, i understand exactly that the turkish ships that are standing there. here will be loaded i will not go away. this is exactly what i understand. i understand for sure that some volume, which belongs to turkish companies, who own, well, rent such agricultural land . in ukraine, too, will leave. and here's what else is coming. well, sergey correctly said, i agree, my point of view, we definitely did everything so that the accusations of famine in africa did not concern us, maxim, you have the floor. i had some questions in the previous discussion, but, for example, the fate of kherson. they say so confidently that the kherson region will be part of russia, i thought, well, why are donetsk and luhansk independent republics opening an embassy one republic, the ambassador of another republic is here for us, they are an independent state,
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kherson is for me a much less obvious option from those nine regions of ukraine that, well, conditionally, like when the orange and white-blue ones separated. of the nine white-and-blues, the least certain was, and the situation was in the kherson region, when yanukovych a and tymoshenko went into the second round only 60 to 40. not such a big gap. and now it will work. well, i imagine hypothetical situations. a kherson region will be proclaimed a part of russia, as there was a time with crimea, hostilities, the gray zone will not end there, and in this kherson region, which is already part of russia, the ukrainians, for example, capture some village in the gray zone, this turns out to be the seizure of russian territory. and this is the very existential threat that ours says. uh, doctrine means defense doctrine. we can respond with all our might, including with the use of some
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special effective weapon. i don't have answers to all these questions. but it seems to me that at least ask them we can, and then brainstorm. what a yes that's fate, if you finished the area for us. eh, you see, here's an interesting question, what kind of fate is optimal for us. that's interesting, how can i judge so, well, what is optimal for the people who live there. here you see what's the matter about the embassy. it doesn't contradict anything. these are recognized by the state, because i know all this life in our social networks. here i will easily explain this to you, because if there were no embassy, ​​there would already be such a risk that what for the under-state, those who do not even have an embassy. well, it's certainly not a state. they don't even have a messenger. but the ambassador is alive and standing, damn it, he also went, which means we will not unite with him. and if there was no oil here, then they would say that it's not
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real. and they don’t even have an ambassador, that’s all, in my opinion, well, tinsel, in which our party-goers of social networks love to swim, we have a huge number of them, where you don’t have this relationship, which, from my point of view, has to do with case in the hive with the statement of these people. i understand about donetsk and luhansk, where the heads of the republics said, and i myself went there all the time. and just a week ago i came from there, and they know for sure. there will be a complete liberation of lugansk , e.g. donetsk, and they will have time and the opportunity to decide for themselves how they want to go on. this is what they are aiming for. what opportunity and how will be given to other territories? i don’t know, but i definitely understand that it’s extremely unfair to talk about how it will be more convenient for us pomi- at ​​least in relation to these people. yes, that's what they should decide, and our task is
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to create a situation in which they will freely, without pressure, without coercion, decide for themselves one question is it possible? well, you can, of course , those who currently live in this region, or those who are registered there or on topics or have left, someone is announced, someone in the rest of ukraine , someone from russia can take part in this referendum participate, you know, i'll tell you so dmitry sergeevich peskov answered this uh, 2 weeks ago, if there are referendums and when, i quote close to the text, please forgive me if there is an inaccuracy, the quote, but i convey the meaning exactly, he said the following, if there and when there will be a referendum, then they must pass no less legally irreproachable than the one that took place in the crimea. how would it be, how will it be decided? i don’t know yet, but this should be decided by the cic lawyers, including customs, this is their job.
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and the task is to make it legally irreproachable and i support it and not only legally, but also morally, too, there must be impeccability. well, i wanted to get back to talking about truces, talking about peace. here, uh, you need to understand, it's simple things. today we are not dealing with ukraine as such, having entered these negotiations, what is the ukraine of ukraine a joint venture, respectively, a joint venture american. nato, in which ukraine has already lost all its resources so much, because funding is entirely at the expense of europe at the expense of nato weapons europe nato from ukraine there are only external attributes and cannon fodder, and in fact, in this case , peace is even desirable for ukraine, except for the people themselves, there and whose people are sitting in opera. there is simply no one, because no one simply takes them into account and will not hear, because well, what is a joint venture there is guidance to follow and er, of course, in this case the world will depend on the most important state. this is
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the state of the front. today. in my opinion , a certain such peak of this whole situation is coming. europe and the americans are no longer just giving weapons. they already dumped all their bins. if you want to get it, if you want to get it, you need to get another highmars, but some result is required from ukraine, it is impossible to endlessly invest weapons in the promise that you will do something if ukraine cannot demonstrate. if you demonstrate nothing to time and, in fact, there is nothing, then, of course, a situation may arise in which, as always, cheating will begin. uh, what is called unprofitable income? and that's when really assets are not profitable assets. sorry income. i made a reservation. and then a situation is just possible in which ukraine will already force negotiations to sit down at the table. and not us, but the owners, because they perfectly understand that any meter of land occupied by russian troops. he will never come back, which means that if we
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want to save at least something, we urgently need to force us to negotiate with the russians, and then in this case zelensky, who today says that he will never give up a meter. suddenly it becomes obvious ready for any negotiations. uh, yeah but only, it may be very late, you understand, because if the assets are unprofitable, then the loss is dripping all this time, yes, but there are also crisis processes that they themselves are developing in europe and america, we will talk about this later. and here i am. i also wanted to say one thing, you know, you son. that is the problem of the western masters of ukraine a. moreover, those who work as puppets for them do not understand a damn thing about the historical process. the historical process is a due inevitable. and if you don't admit it, what is exists, then sooner or later it will go through the skating rink on its own. well,
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talking about historical processes. i personally generally think that if we start talking about the geopolitics of the gio economy of major restructurings , if we do not discuss and look at all this in a historical framework, that is, with the understanding that it all started long before us and will end . after we are no longer there, yes, historical processes are not arranged differently, but if we are in this context of the past and we do not hold the future, then it is unlikely that we will find the right solution in today, we will definitely never find it. well, today, from recent reports, the president of russia, uh, is having a working meeting with the agency for strategic initiatives. and in my opinion, the essential, uh, statement of the president is very significant. here listen at the global level, the foundations of the principles of a harmonious, more equitable, socially oriented and secure world order are being developed.
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an alternative to an existing one or can we can say that the unipolar world order that has existed so far, which by its nature certainly becomes a brake on the development of civilization, is the model of the total dominance of the so-called golden billion. unfair, why is this golden billion of the entire population of the planet? why should he dominate everyone impose his own rules of conduct based on the illusion of exclusivity, it divides peoples into first and second grade, and therefore is russian and not inherently local colonial its a, the underlying globalist, supposedly liberal ideology. more and more gets cheats. totalitarianism, holding back creative search for
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free historical creation, one gets the impression that the west simply cannot offer the world its own model of the future. yes, of course, it was not by chance that the golden billion became golden, it achieved a lot, but not only, uh, it took up such positions thanks to it. uh, some realized ideas to a significant extent, probably, their position due to the robbery of other peoples and in asia in africa a how was it how much they robbed? therefore, today the elites of this golden billion are terribly afraid that other centers of world development may present their own development options, but no matter how the western and so-called national elites do not seek to preserve the existing order. eh, things are coming after all a new era a new stage in world history. only genuinely sovereign
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states can ensure high growth dynamics. well, in essence this statement. uh, the president of russia is, in general, being buried. here is this one polar world. that is, now everything has been dropped and now all things are called by their proper names it is quite clearly articulated that in this unipolar world there is a certain elite who says we live according to certain principles of democratic correctness and protect people. but it turns out that there is only one person who protects, who is in this golden billion, and there are all the rest, who are destined for a completely different role. and now, when the world is divided into parts, that is, when he says, this is white, this is black that is, this golden billion. he prefers what has been embodied to him so that the technologies are his they command the finances. they set the rules for life in this world. and the rest of you will be a resource, we will use your resource, and it will be cheap for us, and you will be happy in order to please us, that is, this is how this world is built. and
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if you translate on a simple example and i can't not respond. well, what maxim was talking about, i'll just put it in the form. mira, yes, that is, now maxim is raising questions. and here is the kherson region. maybe she has the right to a democratic choice on self-determination. yes, that is, world law presupposes the self-determination of e ination and people living in a certain territory. and and. here, whether they have the right to do this or not is an automatic question, but 8 years ago. and how many people in the western world said that what happened on the maidan it was at least in part, at least a little democratic, at least a little bit corresponded to the name of a referendum or some kind of will or plebissy, or was it just a bunch of people who ran to the maidan who were told to say, that's it, we bless you. you are correct, and these are wrong and you can go kill them, therefore, when maximu talks about this topic. he raises the right questions, because in fact there are a huge number of them from the point of view of russia, everything is clear. in russia, there are laws that
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spell out part of the state with us. again , everything is clear. yes, that is, the lpr dpr is recognized by russia as part of the state has the right to make its own decision and russia is ready to accept it on the basis of consent of the population living in this territory, there is no other detail in russian legislation, and therefore it depends on how the referenda will be held or the will of the phenomenon. this is our question of the lpr and the dpr of kherson, i don’t know melitopol and others there, we will conduct this ourselves . here we will make the most transparent model, in which people will give their consent or not, consent to the question posed and that's it. and after that, russia can already react to this, especially since ms. matvienko has already stated that we ready to consider this issue. if it is staged, yes, than i will touch it. i will also break it down . it is important that, from the point of view of international law , there was nothing to transfer to in organizing this referendum, but there were precedents, for example, well, while
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you understand, yes, they will still fight. yes , yes, i'm just precedents. interesting, listen, yes, western sahara, i was there in 70-75 years after spain was the former metropolis. ah, well, as it were, she left western sahara. she was captured by the dwarves. and now there is a sport that is part of morocco, i was there at the invitation of the american government. in general, it is formal and part of the hassle, and of course, you can’t tell. but, and part of western sahara, and we support the algerians, these are the fighters for independence and now, when already in the seventy-fifth year there are talks about how to organize a referendum, and here is the question, which is not just because i put it, can anyone be able to vote, then yes, now it’s a very important question, and they can’t bring up the efen, that is, only the topics of the iraqis and the inhabitants of western sakhalin who lived until 75 years before the establishment, and the control of morocco, or those who later arrived. and
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those who left live on the other side of the wall, which are built in the desert. in fact, they can vote or not? so i think before we decide this issue. it is necessary to give an opportunity to those residents of the kherson region, who now live in germany, in poland, and so on, also vote. offer them. it's you so skeptical, as if i've tried. yes, but i just think about it, right here in the studio. we of course, uh, everything. well, maybe five against one will support, let's say great, but i want it to be organized in such a way that not at all with their european colleagues. i also had more arguments. you even that's all. you will be surprised. well, i want that too. for example, i think, yes, that those who are somewhere there, well, in other territories, should have the opportunity, if they are not registered there, yes, well, uh, to come and
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vote. well, you know, i have my suspicions. so you said about the wall that ukraine will build? such a wall that no one is there ukraine will not miss, as you understand now? an interesting story will tell you about the zaporozhye region , huh? by the way, i heard this in donetsk. just for your knowledge, nalchik yes, who was wounded. uh, shelling his father. well, he saved and brought from the donetsk hospital to from the village, along which there was literally a line. e fighting. saved. yes, at that time the line was a little bit tighter there, the ukrainians went in and what curds the ukrainians came to this floor of the village and took out the mother and daughter, that is, the sister of this boy. uh, grandfather was taken to zaporozhye 10 days ago, i met and talked with them in the hospital. and they are looking for one single solution. how to get out of zaporozhye and the only problem is that ukraine has a crazy queue that literally releases one per
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day. well, i'm not afraid to lie. yes, they let out a drop , and the evil ones. this is a huge extortion mechanism. and maybe not just extortion. well, as if extortion under threats is not just that we will not let you out. and also we will deal with you that it is you who are so eager to go there. and you see, vasily is even standing. he knows that this is what happens there. i'm not distorting anything absolutely, so those who want the same thing. eh, same thing. say the same on the border of the nikolaev kherson region, people who want to go there cannot go because of the ukrainian side. and so i am completely for what you are discussing, the more massive it will be, the more legitimate it will be. here i am, yes, i agree, but only those who are really registered there have anything to do with it. well, it has. in the sense of right will. eh, i want it now, wait. i'm
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just talking about inevitability. i want to show. this is directly related to what maxim discusses for the negotiations, because this is the past, to which the history of 8 years has come down. here , listen to lavrov with regard to the sensations and feelings that he experienced when all this had already been announced . e inevitability inevitability is not joy. no , it’s hard to rejoice when military operations are still coming, but when the citizens of your side go to defend justice, and risk their lives, but the inevitability and even what a sense of relief, because for very long years we could not answer the question of these people. yes, not only people from donbass, but also many of our citizens for as long as possible. one can allow common
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sense to be mocked at the people over the resolution with this security over everything that was connected with it. and what was sabotaged just insolently, as they say, and this is a lesson. you see, this should have been scrolled by everyone in ukraine, because the mode of action of our country is clear. we will use every means to avoid extreme measures, but then we will use it extremely to the detriment of ourselves , we will not live obviously, well, for me, at least, it is obvious that all statements are made. here is the statement of the president of russia and minister lavrov, which we have just you saw, i would add inspections here. uh, minister of defense shoigu , it is obvious that we, e, are on the verge of a new stage of something. well, something like that, here is a very important information for the audience. yes , over the past week, the minister of defense sergei shoigu inspected all four groups of
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forces, east south-center, west, and i understand that you share vasil's understanding that such inspections and meetings with commanders and analysis of the situation, decision-making indicates that we are on the verge of some a new stage of our military will give. and in connection with this a. it obviously replenishes two options, either it will be an escalation of the offensive of the russian troops, or all the same. so when i talk about the world and try to find at least some kind of grain somewhere, yes, peace and i'm on it i will stand. or maybe, all the same, but during these days and uh, at least some issue in the direction of peace will be resolved. now what about? well, that's just news about the world. you see, here again , remember what lavrov said, yes, ukrainian attack drones attacked the zaporozhye nuclear power plant , you understand the news. yes, just now, yes. now
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look, that's when you speak or hide. so the escalation live. i see dmitry i see and when uh yesterday uh, the ukrainian armed forces. so hard for me to say attacked uh's bridge kherson region. i see this and i see that those forces or that party of the war that is pushing, including the ukrainian leadership, to yes. an escalation is a terrible event that could happen, but i can't help but say a few words about the referendum very quickly when you, dear host, say that the referendum in kherson and other areas should be even more emotional. fair moral. look, when syria invited the russian federation to help. it was a legal government , this is a legal operation when the dpr of the lpr. yes here doubts. i have invited russia to defend , uh, i defended it, but ukraine as a state did not ask
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russia to protect ukraine. you recognize ukraine as a state, and before holding a referendum, sonya, uh, zaporozhye, and so on, you need to answer the question, and who is russia now in ukraine is not an aggressor or invader an occupier or an invader? that's when it will be fair, so that the people who are there here decide whether they are released or they are captured, so, uh, look ukraine, let's start yes with its definition. well well it's like option, firstly, who was ukraine for all eight years under our all this. therefore, if we put the context of eight years, then we will answer this question. ukraine e. russia is ending the war situation inside the ukrainian times. the west with the help of ukraine against russia 2 ends this situation. and in this sense, the operation. in this big sense, the russian peacekeeping operation. i have
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told you about this many times. the main thing is for people to understand this, but you know, here i am. true, a very busy work schedule is not foreseen. and i would go to kherson with you. well, i just know those people there in nova kakhovka , for example, in kherson, well, who were so you know, you need to know this ukrainian nature, right? so yours are not sewn on. well, of course, well, i’ll grow up there, and there are those who said that you came here even after ukraine hit both kherson and novaya kakhovka several times, and these people came and asked my friends who were already there are from donetsk why are you like this 8 years? and they say it's even worse than 8 years. we are ukraine here, and we thought that we were lied about. here are the processes taking place there, you understand? i would like you to see it with your own eyes, if you express such a desire, then i am ready to
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appear with you kherson, i have a slightly more free schedule than dmitry and i will try to organize it so that it is poetic. sorry, maybe i ask unsuccessfully, you are not, there are no poetic and political all sorts. and you know, i was touched by lavrov's words, to be honest, but 8 years old. i often i went to moscow and talked to many muscovites, and i myself was different from them and told everyone about what a tragedy and more than donbass and how terrible it all is, and , uh, asked everyone a question. why can't big great russia protect my little homeland? donbass why are we all here? here we endure, why are the russian people in the donbass forced to resist, but in fact genocide? and when he said it, of course these words. well, they really melted my heart, and then you know, i want to notice such a thing. they always have a program with you dmitry, which
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pleasing to my female eye, because sometimes you show an arrestovich in your psychedelic shirts. sometimes you have a biden say hello to an empty one. today is an excellent program, and a wonderful putin yes, which causes very positive emotions. i, like a woman, have lavrov who formulate perfectly. i suggest to continue in the same spirit. that's like biden and arrestovich. this is how our story would have the elements of poetry in you, or if you agree with anna to go, the elements of poetry are provided to you. just look, the application does not immediately make it. well , wait, what am i calling you. uh, well, by no means single. me too yes. well, now we have agreed. i don’t understand you about this, because it’s very important that if you go, you must look courageous. cleverly, that is, i am smart or elegant, and it appreciates. she told you about it,
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yes, sergey is a bulletproof vest, but it seems to me that in this statement by putin he is already, in my opinion, talking about the colonial essence for the third or fourth time, west well, put the golden billion into open. yes, i just want to draw your attention to this, if the previous one i don’t even know how many years, for many years, and russia complained that we were being oppressed. here we are offended. here the west does not comply. there is some international law. now, for the first time in a couple of decades, russia has started talking about how the authorities it has denounced. this is of fundamental importance. here, and here we touched on the question, how did it happen? maidan that is why it didn't work out there. well, yes, quite a large group of kyivans. polovinukovich, zar said, you are correct and you well done. the west legitimized them as the authorities that have it. and now russia speaks and behaves like the authorities that have it, we don’t need any transparency of referendums. we do not need no one's
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recognition, especially since it will not be all the same, we ourselves need it, we do it. we must understand. yes, what do these people want, they desire to please. well, well, we were understood correctly, if anything, let's discuss, because i am convinced in principle that we need both transparency or gitism, but for us for ourselves, because well, well, i already said it, as a thesis and as a motto, russians always win, being sure that they are right. now, when we are sure that we are right, in principle, nothing can stop us and nothing can stop us. and this is the confidence that the truth is in our country. this is one of the keys to the mysterious russian soul, if it’s so well to philosophize, therefore, if you agree with this, then for ourselves it is necessary not for them, but for ourselves, of course, that’s why i like this time, because finally russia has become by herself and everything is turned inward, it does not try to become part of the civilized community of the west to play
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or not to play, according to someone's rules, it is obvious that the rules are always set by the winner. we were not the winner of the ninety-first year. these are not our rules. what's the point? we are now playing by these rules, so the americans say every day that we will not allow anyone to violate international law, and so on and so forth. but this actually shout is a battle cry. this is exactly what is happening now on the territory of ukraine yes. this is a war between russia and this very golden billion. here but and speaking, here is such a practical plane about , and here, who should take part in the future referendum, well, let's put it simply. we are the people here, all adults, those who made their choice, those who left kherson for lvov in poland or they have already done further. you, they have already made this choice, that you are worried about them, but the people who live there on their land, or who will return back
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to their land, it does not matter. where did they say that so, i say that i should not be able to come and return and look at all this, yes. and to make a word this opportunity should be provided to them by the russian army. well, or so, well, or so, as in that joke. yes, and what the president said today, and he said very important things. here, in fact, sergei started it. uh, in 30 years the americans were able to lay down a new colonial world system, let me remind you after the ninety-first , they first absorbed the former warsaw pact. they made it their colonies. then they paid a third or a fourth of the soviet union was actually made by the colonies. they crawled into russia well. we also managed to visit the colonies, i remind you. well, almost almost. well, we remember how it happened and, in fact, the completion was already underway. here is the european continent in ukraine ukraine, uh, through the coup, too, did the colony. in 30 years, we managed to break the assembled system in
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just a few years. we said that's it, guys, stop and russia in general, i took on a civilizing role to some extent. we're talking about that the world should not be american, and the world should be e. hmm, as a well-known comrade at the institute used to say, all the flowers are maun, the quote is like this and uh, in this case, of course. russia has this civilizing role. and this, in fact , causes such fury. therefore , they are fighting so mercilessly with us, because we are talking about the future of civilization, not about what it will be. from russia or what america will be like, but about how civilization will develop there in the next 70-80 years, it should have developed in the american way. the whole world is working for this golden billion. for the most chosen in this golden billion. we will add several million. let the rest work. now we are saying no , it won’t be like this, and it turns out that other billions, very many billions in china and india and in the world in general, do
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not want to live like americans, so yes, we must stand here and we must win, i agree with this. by the way, while you were talking, i was thinking about what you are saying, i understood what a simple thing is, which i also touched on. here's the story. yes a here is the essence of things formed. it's interesting, it's still reproduced. look, in the fight against the soviet union, america led this very one, well, the democratic world said, well, we have equality. we have human rights. we have democracy, we have everything everything is like this, only it didn’t become an opponent, because of which it was all said, it turned out literally in the nineties in less than 10 years that instead of equality, the brotherhood of international human rights law was formed, as you rightly say vlad, not at colonial system. it's like viktor stepanovich said that don't do it or from him. he said that we do not make technical inventions. we
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still get a kalashnikov assault rifle, and that's what the west would not talk about democracy. and they get a colonial system. because just like he said. today putin without robbery. they cannot reproduce themselves robbery, there is the basis of western national wealth and power, if there is no robbery, there is a problem with wealth and power. this is said directly. open. by the way, it should be more difficult for us here to talk about the fact that we do not have an ideology, when i have been saying all these years that the ideology will be built as a reflection of the historical situation and the necessary action in this situation. i am talking about this and another year or two will pass and we will have a very healthy, working ideology, understandable, and which will ensure our movement forward. well, for a couple of decades, advertising will continue after it for sure. 60
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no, nothing is impossible for you and this minute 200 we watch premier hours in the summer in the application or on the website, we watch on russia 1 channel, we continue our discussion. well, it's interesting, yes, the european union has announced such a plan. we have a plan. now we are approving a plan for how we will live through the winter without russian gas, but it has cheered everything up there so much. it's all right in the morning, well, interesting. uh, the russian position is deployed. yes, she was introduced to her in what the president of russia said, uh, in tehran, and what sergey viktorovich lavrov said, uh, in an interview with rt well, let's
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let's first see how the president described it yesterday. whether russia is rightly blamed for this energy crisis and whether gazprom will continue to fulfill its obligations, firstly, gazprom has always fulfilled and deliberately fulfilled all its obligations. well, what's going on? i've already talked about this a lot. i don't know if it's worth going into details about the energy policy of the europeans, who have neglected the importance of traditional types of energy, and, uh, have relied on non-traditional, they are great specialists, not traditional relations. here in the area. power engineers also decided to bet on non-traditional types. the sun, therefore, 2-3 million energy, the winter turned out to be long. there was no wind.
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and that's all. and investments in fixed capital in traditional energy fell due to earlier political decisions, banks do not finance insurance companies insure. uh, local authorities do not allocate pipeline sites for new developments and other transport is not being developed. here is the result of the policy, the previous many years over the previous decades. here from here. everything began. from what actions in russia did gazprom and prices creep and the same rake is being stepped on in the sphere, uh, trade in oil and oil products. now we hear all sorts of false ideas about how to limit the volume of russian oil to limit the price of russian oil. it's all the same thing that
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happens the result is even surprising that people have heard it said education the result will be the same rise. sam oil prices are flying they are. well, such a picture is absolutely not contradictory , absolutely logical, but at the same time on yours or to wards of europeans whom you study. somehow it doesn't work. why doesn't it reach them, they really invested in this what they call the green deal, the green transformation. they have a lot of their own terms, their newsyas appeared and, uh, even their own and gas workers and especially oil workers, they cried. yes, don't chop the goose right now that keeps laying the golden eggs. that is, we are european oilmen, they said they were ready. in general , we are ready to invest in this green transformation. list our profits. pick up from us if want, but don't limit investment in the oil sector because what is happening around the world right now.
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well, in part, this russia has already begun to be affected, but thank god after february. it seems to me that it has rolled back, i especially went to chubais. how long was chubais the main preacher of this ban on investment in oil and gas? the industry prohibits investment in the development of new fields, and, accordingly, oilmen around the world are left without money, that is, there is a stereotype that oil and gas earn trillions there and bathe in gold. it turned out that this is not at all true, that they also need investments in new drilling, they also need investments in the dialogue in the development of fields. but they don’t give it to them, since the chubais people and global chubais’s associates came up with the so -called standards, ecology, there are social programs and uh, corporate responsibility, and according to these new standards it’s not good to invest in naftogaz, then the ratings of investment companies are falling, but if they invest in the sun, and in the gas and in the right wind, not in the russian wind, but in their own wind, then their ratings grow. and
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this is how they are trying to pull, by and large, an owl on the globe, and through this manipulation of ratings , pump investments into their new situations. i think now it will not be up to it even now. you see, that's even if you do not argue about climate theory, i'm up to the end here i have until the end no clear attitude about climate theory. i see one and see the other. this is if it could be abstracted, only into a scientific subject and begin to deal with it. i would be for yes, to an exclusively scientific subject. with this, i would have spent 5-7 years in general studying the issue, and now i would simply say yes, while i see only speculation, and i see manifestations, both in one direction and in the other. well , even if those who say that the climate, kapets and the land of death cramps. if they are right, then you need to do something exactly the opposite, you need to technically ensure the survival of mankind in
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this cataclysm, because if climate change has been accumulating for decades, then you have to recover, it will probably take centuries and how to live centuries if the climate is already, but even such logic does not enter your head into two remarks. i'm just briefly here again about the scientific world. yes, it would seem, yes, that scientists should get together and clearly, honestly give an answer. yes there is this global warming or not? i return to everything to one, and what i keep repeating is that it is the scientist who is both ours and theirs, and in principle very responsive. i use the mildest possible term, very responsive to any requests for which they are given grants people close them and accordingly. they also made an ipcc scientific panel in english, an intergovernmental scientific panel, which a year ago wrote 180 pages of text, but they said
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that the world kapets what two degrees and each of them got very good. uh, a fee, and the chairman will go to the nobel prize. what kind of scientists in the world should we expect from them? i wait, i'm much bigger than the most corrupt brokers on the stock exchange. oleg, i agree with you. all this. yes. here is the scientific world. everywhere, there has long been planted on motivational financial and other plush needle and i didn't talk about it. i said that if it were possible to organize a truly scientific study. i would vote for him because it is difficult to organize it in this world now. i agree with you. here is the problem. i would not become less categorical in relation to scientists. well, uh, i've had occasion to talk to our various climatologists, very serious ones, and so on. the fact is that in fact, if you still remember the city, which was the first one of the first, who was the face, so to tell this company there were these films,
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wonderful beautiful ones that they made, and in rivne his company financed this. but the fact is that the scientists were shut up. mouths, somewhere they plugged money. and somewhere they plugged it, it’s straight. here is that story. yes, there, with this new ethics and so on, they shut up, because as soon as you are a climatologist, if you dare to say that not everything is so simple. you can put an end to this in your career, our scientists directly told me, when, despite the fact that e, it is clear that there was whole organized. ah, such a publicity stunt. yes, this climate here this apocalypse e, where well, here is greta tuberque. do you remember her? all probably, here she was dragged back and forth and demonstrate, by the way, the apogee of scientific opinion. yes, and it was geina. here is this opinion, when everyone was shut up. you are now saying this is a tumbler, by the way, she opposed sweden's entry into nato like, now i'm directly afraid because of her and of everyone else, to
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be honest, here but this is what it's all worth, so there's no need for scientists here. yes, there it is non-scientific opinion absolutely can be a part, maybe there is some kind of direction. no, but there are serious scientists who generally talk a little about the other about the clinic. and now about the consequences. by the way, yes, because the president wrote how it all works. yes? and where it all began, and sergei viktorovich lavrov pointed out how it could end, look. we can not rejoice over the fact that people in europe will freeze and live poorly. uh, here's what they might get fed up here's an imposition, oh which you say, and finally, maybe in these countries national-oriented politicians will come to power, thinking about their peoples, and therefore, not wanting to quarrel with russia, because quarreling with russia is not good for any people. it's right. it is true, in this sense too. i agree. eh, probably this is a very correct process of healing,
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when people get rid of the illusion that they sat down for them everything will be decided every day everything will be the same, cheap energy, cheap products, everything is fine. e. probably this needs to be done for in general, europe itself, in the interests of europe itself, of these peoples who inhabit it. ah, but how is that going to happen? i don’t know, as far as we are concerned, we won’t be too worried, by and large. we will not. z. well, i read that we just need to take a detached position. guys, you made your own. here is this uh this story. you want to live in such conditions, you want to get rid of those natural beneficial connections that have been created for many, many decades in the energy sector. in the field of transport logistics. uh, communications please, it's your choice. we will not be forced to be nice, but uh, when you complete this process,
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if at all you can complete it profitably for yourself, it will not be possible to do it, uh, it will be very expensive for the subsequent development of the european economy please do not ask us to return again with some agreements, because you have proven your unreliability. well, by the way, you see, is it you or about ukraine, is it clear? yes, we give you to do it, do it, but only what you do can and will be used to be interpreted mask. yes, well, what is modern green, the transition. we see this when you smear the handle of a rake with green paint, very tightly, and then you jump on them, you understand? here is a modern green reimagined. yes, and what do we see today's economy after all these five months. it turned out that the whole economy is largely virtual , you know, you know, again, like a casino in the desert after an enemy, while everything was fine. money rang. it was the most prosperous
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institution. but as soon as it turned out that you need light gas water, but they are not, it turned out that all these e incomes are huge, which were just services. they mean nothing. so, these are the most dull, as they said, there 5% of the world economy of russia is backward in raw materials. well, excuse me, it's gas, it's light, it's yes, it's metal, it's water, and without them, there 's nothing else, you know? everything turned out to be, as now most of the german economic miracle is on cheap russian energy resources. they are cheap, they take such a share of what you made the cost price, in general, everything collapses. but that's them for now were cheap in the world that passed away. they were cheap, so now killed that world. you killed, so now the green cross the green transition. uh, you know, dmitry, we are in between, that is, ukraine. it is in between. i don’t know, because , well, if we talk about europe, i won’t talk about europe
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already, but about ukraine, being in between is very painful. it's not just a war between if we're talking about the energy crisis and what's in store for us this fall, but also this winter . and i don't know from what position. well, for example, uh, we need naftogaz ukraine, we have a monopoly. there is one, yes, which is all green. to manage the power industry, he says that we are bankrupt neftegaz, i told you 3 days ago. she says that we have debts. and of course we can pay for them. but we will not pay for them, because say, uh, 150 billion will be issued now, they will pull it out, and there is still a significant amount of money in these 150 billion that the west gave, like, like for a war, how will it be negotiated. and now here's the problem. that's it, what could it be? should be ready to give, but at the expense of themselves how to somehow live the curse. well, this is our everything in ukraine to curse.
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will we be able to loop now? i'm not sure, and here's why, because, unfortunately, the same germans and the same europeans who are calculating now, they are also calculating. they say that this winter we will live without gas, without oil, without energy resources in russia, they can and will survive, as we survived, how will ukraine survive without gas. without electricity and without fuel oil, as he likes to say, i throw off whom in our programs, quoting classics. uh, the sheriff's problem, the indians are not interested. this is right for you. yes, sergei vasily. well, not to you personally. a very correct question indeed. you will remember last year, and kiev explained that we do not buy gas from russia. we take it on the reverse expensive. well, nothing. here we are free people, now you can’t buy it on the riverside, it won’t be physically there either. and i have another comfort, seryozha, you will forgive me. there's another
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mantra, because they don't say this silence, but it must be said directly. they are reasoning so arranged, internal logic. since our industry has completely died, there is no ukrainian industry at all. consumption has plummeted. hooray for the population and who are duhose, enough gas from their own production, agast was sold. here, as it were, but they don’t understand, there is one thing naftogaz, now it was, so they counted 86 oligarchs under the signs of the law of falling 86 for each of us, it’s wrong, he says, not how will you survive. and what will i have in my wallet, each of the constellation of six oligarchs asks, i did not understand one introduced himself for the quarter. and this gas, actually production. as rodion says , i will already pre-sell to europe, so ukraine will freeze, and europe will consume ukrainian
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gas. own mining. i beg you, they are hushing up this topic for now, but already yesterday i don't remember the minister of defense in another interview. he said that it would be desirable to end the war before winter. why before winter? i really didn’t understand, because it’s more convenient for them to fight russian in winter. why is it convenient for russians to fight him? i didn't get it either, because difference the earth will freeze, and i thought that in fact, winter is waiting for e, not only in europe , not only the germans are already preparing. how will coal-fired power plants work? it's not, the hungarians, ukrainians also banned the export of firewood to mind. the same thought two more words. i'll add about the green transition. in my opinion, the green transition was just a part of the very colonial policy that needed to be updated, respectively, to drive the whole world into total hopeless poverty . conditional third world, but a green billion, but he, accordingly, would have enjoyed all the benefits, technology, robotics, and so on and so on,
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but they, of course, were a little hasty. that is, what they have accomplished in these 5 months. this is pure economic suicide no green transition. already just in the next 30 years. i think the gentleman will not go thank you for the president's statement. and then, to some extent, mr. lavrov repeated what he said, the main thing to deal with will be sovereign states. yes today have dealing with the european union, which is mobilized, and in which they did not care about their own interests at a halt, their own economy, their own citizens. and, because you need to talk about russia yes, therefore everything is leveled completely, and your interests are the interests of your people, but you can’t talk from russia. yes? why because globalization? we thought globalization is when for everyone and everything, it turns out, no, globalization. just a new form of such colonization, yes, that is, it turned out to be in it, therefore, by and large, if i decipher this, that is, russia will be able to talk with
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individual states, which are based on their own interests, when germany has its own interests in the development of the economy, and the support of its people, and the development of cooperation, and so on and so forth. yes, that is, then it will be possible to talk to her, but for now germany is looking at washington and waiting there for yes or no and interesting. or is it not interesting that the dialogue does not work out , nothing is built, so the subject states will save this world no, put an end to this. ah, very accurate. i would add one more point that i heard in lavrov's speech, he was deliberately accentuated, you see, the subject state, as they said, is the most important condition in principle. and there is one more fundamental condition, without which the first does not work. and this contract is an ability, after all. hey, what did lavrov say? well, it will be impossible to go back. your fundamentally different ability has already been fixed, moreover, in this
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interview. he returned to these moments several times, and tangentially. uh, guarantees uh, in february of the fourteenth year, yes, which were signed by the foreign ministers and regarding how poroshenko was begged by the european leaders of putin he never says that we do not recognize. uh, the poroshenko regime what putin said. well, he's kind of like for peace. well, let's see, let's give him a chance, - said the president of russia, but i'm sorry poroshenko became president and the next day sent, uh, planes to bomb luhansk after that, therefore, look how important it is, why is the historical process and why, but you do not decompose subjectivity once. and what he said to rodion and the ability to negotiate, the ability to keep a word to be responsible for his words, these are two. this is where the new world will be built. and europe does not fall under all this. not under subjectivity, not under the ability about ukraine, i
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we continue our discussion. of course, we have just talked about the green transition and the problem with energy. that's clear. yes, and our position is understandable, by the way, well fixed, we will not worry about you. uh, let's take a position, we'll look at all this aloofly, well, we're curious, how would you tumble there. here, by the way, from uh, see how they tumble there, of course everything. eh, well, that's it, the lady confidently takes the previous heights. karine jean-pierre. this is just this is just something special about this one. in the work of the press secretary, let's see, by the way, she was asked what biden was doing for two days, why didn't we see him? what biden did yesterday and today he was in scheduled meetings, i was supposed to see him today in the oval office. he also met with the assigned
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staff and i think some of you may have seen him when the first league of ukraine was hosted by our first lady. i think you saw him briefly. i think he was very busy with the problems of the american people and met with high-ranking employees of their administration and other officials during these 2 days. and remember how we complained about the psaki, how tongue-tied she is, and so on and so forth. so it's not only psaki and red-speaking. you see, we had this kind of joke transmission. yes, because the deputies. and now i remember, by the way, filatov's sandwich does not fit into his mouth. how are the people there? yes , it sounded rude. well, yes, well, let's say. so, for two days he dealt with the problems of the american. what people, well, what else can deal with, er, the president of the united states, of course, the problems of the american people, by the way, just a glimpse. it was in vain that she said they could catch a glimpse
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. yes, she, too, somehow turned out to be uncomfortable, as the ukrainians say. hmm, here is a video where he flashed at a meeting with elena zelenskaya. e, well here, well, not very flashed so something because somehow interested. this, of course, is very protocol here, hugging like this a little bit. uh, first lady and another state. it's all very protocol. but by the way, it's all there already uh, discussed, here, uh, and the photos are yes, or did the soap publish, it's not us, that's what they hint at? i don't know if both the first and second relate to solving the problems of the american people. well, one can only sympathize with the american people, but you know, actually in ukraine. well, at least zelensky has great hopes for a successful, so to speak, successful visit of the first lady himself, by the way, spoke about this in his speech and said, and this is what will give her the
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right to speak to congress, she will represent the interest of the ukrainian people. well, biden. well, i don’t know, probably, the issue of ukraine has become so much part of an internal trip with the united states of america that they are already waiting without ukraine. it doesn't. here they attracted the first lady. i can even roughly guess. what will she talk about? basically. it will be emotions, emotions, again emotions, in order to evoke sympathy from the congressmen so that they give more weapons to ukraine, which must win this war. well, the idea is probably uh in this, but uh there is already information about weapons, at least information that the americans want to put more, so to speak, himers on the territory of ukraine, and moreover, we are talking about what they say, uh, they will also be supplied with shells that have a range, uh, shells, of which there are about 300 km, and on this military rhetoric, as if nothing changes at all, absolutely someone there told the basil. he told something there for peace there we are for peace there
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all over the world. yes, he is always for everything good against everything bad, only bad good, but somehow does not fit into any agenda. no one even talks about it inside ukraine. nothing has changed. give us more weapons, and we will definitely win this war, although in fact i want to emphasize once again that for me the issue of defeat or victory for ukraine is not worth it. i believe that ukraine won exactly at the moment when it agreed to participate in this anti-russian project. here he won. i lost lost. at that moment, at that moment, she lost. you can even just take a summary, what we have from the moment of her consent to participate in this project until today, starting from the economy in the state of ukrainian society. uh, plus security issues, loss of territory and many, many things and more than one position. you will not find a single plus, well, this does not bother anyone, in fact, the ukrainian authorities. it 's completely uninteresting. they do not even want to
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discuss, in principle, and i would consider the visit of elena elena zelenskaya hmm yes, i would consider it in context. actually this strategy is a total show policy. that there are already familiar characters who came, and to keep the attention of this society of adult adolescents, whom we often say, yes, on which cognitive blows are constantly worn, some new characters are needed, a beautiful woman. well, objectively yes, a new character. how absolutely. you are right, it will put pressure on emotions, and in order to maintain an adult teenager in this state , you need to fundamentally appeal to emotions, and the general strategy of the show is politics. it is what you need constantly, well, flashes to attract attention. here they pulled out a new character shortly before. well, reznikov disappeared and told, yes, that is, he also turned on the heat. well, everyone send us a weapon, we will test it like a training ground. that is, we have one show line in this series. it's about pulling out constantly new characters and new plot twists. how is it with the
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dismissal of the head of the hut. well, here's what they're doing. yes, they are now looking for russian spies. inside. this is what they have a new storyline, and inside there is a true storyline that we as we determined, most likely to fuck, we see, this is actually a training ground, therefore, within the framework of the show of politics, everything is explained and the biden is also absolutely understandable. handsome handsome handsome yes, he made me pay attention, of course, but of the character. well, it fits in, you know, politics has come in, of course, it ’s interesting to watch, especially from the outside, but still they leave such a feeling of a parallel reality that the whole american administration with elena zelenskaya is biden with all these public statements, or some kind of parallel a reality that they created for themselves, but really. sorry for the tautology, it really convenes on earth in the donbass. where is the liberation going on, and the territories, including the dpr lpr, and when. lines from slavyansk to druzhkovka down.
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then it is possible that the western parallel reality will collide with the real reality. and you will see how mr. zelensky will behave in this situation, who will somehow need to to explain this sir. and zelenskaya, who, too, will no longer be able to beg for weapons after such obvious defeats on the ground, and in fact. uh. i think the situation here you are talking about until november. i think that the situation will be a little earlier. eh, change dramatically, especially in the case, as they already said in the first part. if it really starts now, president putin expresses himself with you in earnest, a special military operation to go. well , looking at just biden and elena zelenskaya for the first time in recent times. biden. found a way out. he followed her, and he did not mix up where to go. now we know we competed in the comments, how would he write something. yes, some kind of rimsky, we know what to do so that he goes straight, because during his entire middle east visit, whoever didn’t correct him, turn on journalists when he even walked in a straight line and got lost. uh, so
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well, you see how quickly history changes in the nineties. we had speeds for the president. yes, now they have to. we also had a term. remember, the administration came up with work for documents thinks about russia and now the duma is here how would the american people and well, he probably thinks thinks it would be okay, thinks the president has been intensively solving the problems of the american people for two days. he solved the problems of the american people. well, it is obvious that he is very tired, that he needs rehabilitation recovery after such a long round-trip flight and the question is what really. well, unfortunately, we're getting harder and harder and, uh, now maybe there will be a confrontation against this background, because it is clear that he is in a hurry. he is trying to pass this climate law, which is incredibly ambitious for $500 billion . and just in time for the energy transition, he already has a senator there like john manchenko, who constantly sabotages his own decisions inside the game pardi, that is, the
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split is crazy, given that they have a one-vote advantage there. and what will be here now by december, that is, there should be a successor operation should he once go out to look. i'm tired, i'm leaving. but who will be, because kamala haris also somehow disappointed. uh, let's say the people and voters because the war spoke on itself, i am a transitional president, but then i changed after the second term. he was going to announce that he was also not going right away and now simply because this successor is not here, it's interesting, and there will be times. you sort of understand what 's going on. well, there, uh, not many or some think that? well, when we show it, it's beaten up in such a state that we are somehow there do we assert ourselves? of course. no? of course. no, that's because they say, well, it's not about biden, who really or goes to discuss, but the husband of the american management system. yes, i'm watching. i don't see no power
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, what they can go on, well stalemate up to more. well, you don't need a lot of intelligence for this. you sat on the pedals, you press on one and that's it. yes, that's until it all blows up, when also a heterogeneous system of baidan was supported, who are the it people and bankers, roughly speaking, and for the republicans, this is the whole problem. i don't i know who is there, who supported. yes, some write about it to the americans. hit the brakes. well, tell me, here, in principle, what kind of direct threat does ukraine pose to the americans. yes, the sanctions policy still inflicts more, shaved to the europeans, this suits the americans completely, but the fact that ukraine is at war with russia does not completely build up, they are now giving hamers. well, of course, they will give, they will supply, because they understand the ocean, there is no direct threat to them, and rivne will not be doing this until then. how much will it benefit to the americans and in relation to yura on e, spoke
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about this, you understand what the unique zelensky is about? well, i can't call him a politician. yes, he does not need to save face, he has no face. he changes masks, like gloves he has nothing to keep. the americans know this and they are the one, they can press the stop exactly at the moment when it is beneficial for them and expedient for them, do not pay attention to either zelensky or ukraine, you just said a very important thing, i would say that this is generally requirement for modern politics the western world or the world of show politics, as they like it. uh, semyon we need to enter this position a person without a face who has nothing to do. what do you want? well, that's what i did, now i've fulfilled my place in the buffet. they work like that, but, by the way, about a very powerful system, you understand, it's not about the bathhouse. when i see such conclusions, at the highest level, i understand for sure that the matter is not in the bathhouse. and there would be young and hot as if
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good sergeevich gorbachev well, let's bring it to the end. uh, the parallels were brezhnev then there were gun carriage races, we used to call it something, and then the pr-program of the communist party came and naruto was tired of the soviet union. he should be given a young speaker to show that we have the whole prospect ahead, so in america he will come to show, yes, and show his wife, yes, a young one will come, saying nothing will change for the united states, since the process of a natural nature is much. more difficult. look at this, uh, a person who has to make managerial decisions. let's go home, the more pain we feel the offshoot of gas prices, the more benefits for those who can afford an electric car. this is the minister of transport or assistant or deputy minister of transport deputy, in my opinion, minister of transport, you understand that this is a matter, well, for whom, but this is all
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. well, that's where it originates. we will now switch from gasoline to electric because electricity. it's just here, well, from somewhere. well, here it appears in the outlet, and that's it. don't develop it. don't, well don't pay for it no it is necessary, therefore, what will be in salvation will be the salvation of electric vehicles. yes, the same as anton's marian yes, there is no money for regular cars. buy cakes for yourself in the face of electric cars, which costs an order of magnitude more expensive. well done awesome. you spoke about the quality of the management system. the quality of the management system is determined by the possibility of turns. can the state machine turn to some course change courses, if it can change course, the american political system begins to work qualitatively well in relation to russia work strictly by inertia. this is how they started the sanctions path, even someone. if inside understands, now i’m finishing, someone inside understands what needs to be curtailed. they can not inertia
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goes and here is my personal opinion, because there may be some kind of heresy now. this is good for us to some extent, because they drive them into a corner, forcing them to make tough and final decisions, including on ukraine and alaverdi, which we don’t always want to do. some of us don’t always want to do it. respectively here. but this, by the way, is the successor of pitbuchie. yes, he talked about a successor, it will be very. and this is the same homosexual mayor who is a star. uh, here's a previous rising star voter. that is, he still has everything ahead of him. he will also transplant all of america to electric cars. well , will there be current in the outlet, but this is not a presidential matter. and by the way, i thought one thing, i am a historian. i'm sorry, i just can't be in the top a little bit. that's how biden looked at zelensky's wife yes, i immediately remembered bring, uh, those golden times, but for all the photographers of the world, when kennedy is in the white house with his wife, the
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prince of monaco arrives with his wife, an islamic greek actress. this is the look grace kelly devoured john f. kennedy or i openly read, where have you been you my irishman before this photo is the second premise, you know, that's what you described. here the word historian is not very applicable, and i thought that you, yes, you are some kind of historian of certain types of relationships. i would say like this, i'm a historian of high politics about uh, the united states of america and what is happening, uh, on the one hand, before the biden and it is clear that, well, it causes some emotions, but of course, we should not get too carried away with this. yes, there is ridicule and so on. well, we don't do it in our program. oh, of course, ukrainians. now, uh, do n't watch not how biden looks at their first lady, and in what dress and in what place are the buttons? uh, it is sewn on the board, otherwise it is very
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conveniently discussed vigorously while sitting. i would pay attention. here literally yesterday focus-nius, and, between other visibility main information channel. uh, in the united states of america, so there, an ex-fifer of the intelligence department of the us department of defense spoke like this a, and she said right here, directly, her text of what she said that there is not so much money and so much weapons that will help ukraine win russia she said this directly, and i would rather pay attention to this, because these words and, uh, this understanding, and you can see it. yes, there are scouts and people, which are related to the army and so on, more and more often they say. yes, i understand that focus-nius is, uh, yes, there is a republican mouthpiece. uh, specifically designed to fight liberals. uh,
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american and so on, but the people who perform there. they do not prevaricate and do not adjust their assessments to the vision of the republicans. they say what they think, because these are professionals who, of course, are enough in the united states of america. and here you should listen to this and, uh, and you understand this, this is also all is broadcast, including to the american society, and politicians start there and not what they start many of them understood from the very beginning that there is not so much money and so many weapons that will help ukraine win this war, but still we see that, anyway, ukraine is being driven there. it's just that spiridon said this. and you understand, they well, in this sense, they don't lose face, it's somewhere left with the nineteenth in the rest of the twentieth century for the politician and his responsibility. well, you know how well, let's say it will be the end of august, the beginning of september. let's not think about changes now, well, or a little later. it doesn't matter there. the situation will change radically, of course. what
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happened to the troops of ukraine, well, what will he say, biden will say, we have weakened the russians very powerfully, we have weakened the russians with them. that's about the negotiations. this is their victory putin got very expensive , incredibly expensive. russia will now lick its wounds for decades. she will bear the burden, we will not lift sanctions anywhere and very uplifting, but really. we’re like after that, they’ll say, they still won’t ask, you understand, where did you promise at the beginning that russia would be destroyed, no one will remember this. what else will they do, they will evacuate the part and continue the show called bandera in exile 2.0, organize some kind of anti-russian fund. it will be may be the government, but apart from the government. they are still, as it were, their agents.
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well, i mean the special services and there will be a serious movement, which will also shoot tv shows and newspapers. publish and write books and it will be a series for the next 23 years. in fact, they have already promoted the idea through the world media, but we have colossal financial resources. we are investing in ukraine to support its economy. uh, so to speak, weapons and so on. no one knows how much money went there, how it was spent, everything is absolutely classified, by the way, the deputy also added 26,000 as part of this assistance. they kind of help the economy , and the deputies give themselves a little. well, that's how it all works in this world, you know, and then in will say at the end. well, let them decide how they decide, how it will be. and here we have nothing to do with advertising, after it we will continue. tomorrow the rain in moscow will show everything you can watch every friday for you the whole country will look like a
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what time did krasovsky get shot how did you find out that krasovsky was shot and saw your version now? okay, without registering in the application or on the site this is a program, who is against russia 1 channel, we continue our discussion. here semyon said about what they have going on there. here, in particular. we touched on kim the governor. yes, nikolaevich, he is
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not among the governors. there she is in the nikolaev region. yesterday we talked about it, but announced a prize of 100 dollars per donation. but this seemed not enough, because today he already surpassed this assumption and said that round-ups are now a promising means for nikolayevich. and literally, you understand how much we read about this in the literature, how the german raids were arranged in the occupied territories. by the way, they were carried out with a purpose. uh, steal people to germany, open the sub-pullers and open connections with the partisans. so mr. nikolaev is going to do the same look. first since yesterday 18 letters appeared about all kinds of traitors to collaborators, we are working on them, the second is a lot of questions regarding the closure of the city, this is planned in the near future for two weeks, just when the
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cleaning subsides, and when we process the maximum data, it is planned to close the city for a day for a day for two, we we will inform the military about this in advance so that people can buy food, plan their actions, and we will work out the addresses from work that we will just analyze. well, first of all, he already got on 1800 dollars, because we have already received 18 before nosov for a cover bank, but this is not enough, which means that everyone will have to stay at home at the moment when we will produce, round up and identify unreliable persons. this is very scary, because this is the same processor that i never get tired of, that this is not petliurism, which is the meaning of what is given to the armed gangs of the city for plunder, because this is a pr line that leads to what we understand what is the show governor. and then there's what's going on, well in reality, the reality is that cities saturated with specific scumbags who have been
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released from prisons, plus mercenaries, plus this is happening in kharkov and kiev, and these are people who, firstly, in order to maintain this level of aggression. that is, they need to constantly. well, tightening, so that it happens, and the second is their food supply. this is what i don’t write much about in telegram, and from there you need where people like kim from there you just need it. run as fast as possible , because the cities are their food supply. it is clear that no collaborators. they don't need any. well, not opponents. yes, they just need those to whom they will give to be torn apart by this neopetlus and as the front advances. in general, similar processes will take place in every city, because neopetliurschi need to be fed by their own citizens. so it was 100 years ago. unfortunately, this keeps repeating. well, there is a simple way out. understand? if you really do such a raid, then those who are subject to mobilization and hiding can be driven into the appropriate camp pack and send as meat for fruit and
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rob them again, do not rob something by itself. but there is also a way out that will cover the target, to which the raids led to a very, uh, correct process, look. we found 100 partisans and shooting, and we found, uh, 1,500 hiding motorists. so we have already changed their clothes, shod them and sent them to the front line under escort. you see what an effective governor i am, you know that the worst thing in this story is sometimes, when you make some forecasts yourself, it becomes scary that the next day they start coming true. i spoke about bakanov's resignation and about the fact that the next two weeks there will be mass arrests of people who will be accused of working for the russian special services. here it is, in fact, literally the next day it all started, but you understand what history is about, they are not doing this so that russian missiles stop flying where they fly and hit the target. this they do, again for the west, which is
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unhappy with the fact that russian missiles fly where they need to. here is the last straw was vinnytsia about they are outraged. that how it is so gathered somewhere in the house of officers. who would have known that these officers gathered there and that this rocket flew there. what does it say? this suggests that a serious intelligence and intelligence network is working inside and ukraine. russian works effectively. nothing was opposed to this. they demanded that they solve this problem as they solve it. now they will grab hundreds, maybe thousands. i don't know how many people they will imprison, but in fact, the rockets will not stop flying, but these poor people, yes, who will be accused of working for the russian special services, as they have been accused since the fourteenth year. they just put on a label and they said that this is a russian agent and that was enough to attract this person to muzzle, to plant, to kill, and so on. this is the kind of society ukrainians will live in today. well, it's just that i have
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very serious concerns about people who have nothing to do with this, but they will become victims. here are all these political intrigues. well, i wonder to here's something what you discussed ahead, just looking at what you say pushes me back to the previous one. e discussion. now, when the territory is liberated, then imagine. the population will have a genuine motivation when they did all this with them , even if they were not these same agents, as you say, yes, but they were robbed, arrested, mocked and so on. they clearly understand that they have been released. from which they were released from kim with his raids. that's why they are very important. they must not know these the bosses were already sociology on the eve of the special operation 80% of the citizens of ukraine did not support what was happening one way or another in the country it had not gone away there was an injection. this is the original show. well, february march, when they started
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filming, the injection, the action ends nowhere processes in society, 80% didn’t go away as they were against this regime, just like against poroshenko, then they saw that zelensky is the same poroshenko, they didn’t go anywhere 80% . in fact. these are the continuation of the thought. yes we have now again the clash of real virtual reality is already inside. on the one hand, we see a total ukrainian information policy that tells local residents every day, and on the other hand, we see the atrocities committed by the urks, as they call us in the liberated territories . we see, e that each of you please, i 'll interrupt you for a minute, you just said it yourself, i was in donetsk last week and there my comrades and one young man came up with it himself. you know patch patches. give our kind that are pasted very popular now and uh, it works in a good way, like slogans, like slogans in a good way again, yes, like proverbs? here is one donetsk guy who came up with such
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such a sharon and he sounds like this was born an orc, defend mordor uh, everyone really likes it. it's all here really. yes, it's good, so we have to laugh at such things to turn their laughter. so , this virtual reality, which is broadcast every day from the ukrainian media, really works for information. propaganda let it be a prop we know it works. she is is faced with the real actions of the same kims and other ukrainian leaders who really give cities and towns there for plunder. this is what was happening there in lisichansk when they were just marauders there, or in slavyansk and other cities. and now this is the collision of virtual reality reality. in my opinion. with all due respect to our information policy and so on, it will be the best incentive for the citizens of ukraine when our troops come to liberate these territories with our it is interesting to cooperate with the troops. if, at the suggestion of the kima, they report each other, then each
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will receive 100 dollars, or the first oh, so it’s, well, i can’t tell. it's on the air. there is an old ukrainian joke about two godfathers. well, what are they ready to do for a ruble, when everyone gives to someone and i won’t repeat it. we did it all for free. here, well, the thoughts are understandable, yes, but unfortunately. and there is no place for humor here, because i agree with your logic, most likely, this is going under intensive mobilization and under some other solutions for temporary solutions and for great effect, but temporarily under sending to the front. you see, this film adaptation, it has infected the whole of europe, you can say, because there is no logic there either, there is no logic in making decisions in scoring, that is, even the highest ones. uh, people are not shy about expressing some opposing opinions. there, literally, ursul underland just said, tomorrow he should launch into the nord stream, as if the russians would have no more excuses, because the turbine is going to them by sea. that is. well, what about the turbine? and here is the launch, that is, there is one event - technological repairs there of the
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nord stream, yes, which there is a turbine for 2 weeks, which should increase power. these two are not interchangeable, not supplemented so that knowledge is not needed, you understand, it is you who greatly complicate kirill, well, you understand, he explains to people. in nord stream, there are two branches on one on one branch, the turbine is stuck in canada and therefore. it works, but on the other branch it was time for maintenance, and therefore it did not works. it's all too complicated. that's what this branch will work after maintenance, and with the turbine, everything is still not completely clear. it kind of flies, but the documentation for it, it seems, was not handed over to gazprom and gazprom without documentation of all supporting documents, but i think it’s in a hurry to introduce it. it is not known what, yes, without a guarantee, so to speak, there will be no system. yes, this is complicated. and it’s easier to say, the way ursula told her they were helping, that the german media one bold german wrote that the russians deceived us and sent not
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that turbine. e to canada a here to be able to stop greyed out. they are big big turbine. there are six of them. yes, yes, yes, which are required served another turbine, which is not needed. she is a port sucker there, yes, and today the motto is after president putin's speech. we turned directly and said mr. scheus mr. khabib, it turns out that we have the opportunity to launch nord stream, 2. uh, please do this so that yes, so that we have gas and heat in winter, that is, the best is already coming directly, when it comes down. yes, initiative from below. um, i mean, now i have to make some excuse. why don't i have to don't have to, because the decision was made by a niche. yes, not schultz and not khabik made a decision on the nord stream. 2. now, when this same devil you are, they will still start writing letters directly to the white house and say mr. biden. let schultz habiku
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run. uh, nord stream 2. then we will get closer to the real, i don’t know, that’s why they are far from reality, but you need to write to the white house and against him they test. they are to their credit the germans. in general, they stood behind nord stream two to the last even after february 24 after february 24 for some time. they didn't stand to themselves. yes but here lay than coming back. that's to all this spy mania yes, it is clear that it is untwisted very quickly and according to the law of geometric progression. here the godfather knocks on the godfather, the neighbor on the neighbor, and one businessman on the other, respectively, half of nikolaev can already be imprisoned, uh, all russian agents, and well, the famous dovlatov phrase. and who wrote 3 million denunciations? yes, if stalin take off the bad ones, and she, uh, is relevant for any situation for the ukrainian peculiarities, and she is from my point of view. it is dangerous for zelensky. it is clear that i agree with whom
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pavlovich talked about what was reported, that after vinnytsia they put pressure on bokanov. but when you take out the director of political intelligence. e in a situation where they say that the military intelligence and the military commander-in-chief of the military mafia wants to remove you, then you will be protected, only the special service will only protect you against the military and when you you remove the chief, uh, from the political intelligence service. you are digging, this spy-mania will reach your own grave and yermak, who, in general, has not washed off the fact that he is a russian agent and will reach zelensky let's see who he will appoint. wait. wait, take your time. here is your scheme, healthy, it is theoretically correct. here, taking into account that it would be a state, and he is the president, but since the questions of whether you are displaced or not displaced are decided without tinkering and not pooping and not fighting, then all this does not matter.
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if suddenly in the white house they consider that he needs to be removed, then you will be removed and no bok in him would be saved from this. and since your scheme is theoretically correct, something can happen to him. so even now something can happen to him in e, in general, this is the whole story of the northern poto. two and so on. you know, it's really, uh, it's not even funny anymore. that is you for many months. but in general, you have been shouting for years that you need to get rid of dependence on russian gas and so on, and then suddenly, when in fact, you've almost got rid of it. you start bargaining with the one you sent, which means that this turbine is not the right one, and why they turn it on and begin to vigorously discuss it. you didn't want that gas. well, it happened, beautiful fell on your head, there is no russian gas. zhrite full with a spoon, you know, and now they start poking around in some details, you know. in the same place, the
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situation has changed a lot, in general. you have to see it clearly. eh, remember the organ quite recently. it was not a handshake political leader of hungary mossy sexist, scoundrel scoundrel and conservative. and now he is giving an interview to figaro in french, in which he allows himself to say that i used to think that you were the european union. himself in the leg it turns out he shot himself in the lung says he and the european union in general will have to admit that he seemed wrong. uh, in this situation, that he was wrong. and that all these e-restrictions and e-sanctions that have been introduced do not work. yes, there, in one of the most widely read newspapers in france, like this, now the orban is handing out. uh, and feels like a com king, you know, because he was right. he's also interesting there. he told her he said there will be two kinds of strange ones that will have energy, it will be expensive, but it will be, and there will be those who will not have it. so hungary belongs to the second category, if at all ogorodnaya was to
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ask about france, you don’t know some, and in my opinion, this is just an absolutely simple thing. well, the truth is, you can twirl some kind of absolutely put down there as much as you like, there are cheap ones next to you. well, relatively now, yes, cheap. uh, cheap energy that could be supplied, but you yourself refuse it and then find a thousand reasons why you did it? although they would do it for one simple reason, because you were ordered to. that's all. it was necessary to invest tens of billions of euros in the construction or dollars in the construction of a new gas pipeline so that no one would go through it with anyone , but everything is even much worse, which is why, therefore, what putin discusses about the future world is souvenir sovereign and agreements able, if the countries that in the future world will meet these two criteria be sovereign and bear responsibility for their
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decisions. yes, to be able to fulfill them, to be able by agreement. it is for this new world that we fear and stand for today. watch the program right now. and we will meet with you tomorrow. the information service of the russian tv channel continues its work on the air, you watch the news. my name is maria sittel hello west cannot offer the world a new model of the future. now other centers will develop global development options about this vladimir putin spoke today at the forum of the agency for strategic initiatives strong ideas for the new time plenary session was held today in moscow in the house of culture ges-2.

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