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what were read and watched by those whom we read and watch today. we, like these books and films, helped to find ourselves and how they can help us change. in the new issue of the white studios, the director, screenwriter and thinker, who has more than once been the hero of the program of his film of recent years, paradise sin, dear comrades, became events in domestic cinema and
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took part in prestigious festivals such as venetian and rome in mid-april on the stage of the theater moscow city council will host the premiere of his performance based on shakespeare's play the taming of the shrew, which he had already staged with success at the san ferdinand theater in neapolitan. his new work in the cinema is a grandiose multi-part film chronicles of the russian revolution in twenty years of russian history from 1905 to 1924, director. i have already finished work on the script and in the near future the people's artist of the rsfsr andrey konchalovsky will begin the preparatory period of filming in the white studio, because i understand that you have it for sure. sometimes it would be hard, why yes i try to have more time. just so that sit and watch, it's such a good idea. now everything is the other way around, they try to be efficient
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, a lot of books, how to be in time in one hour, one million 1,200 things to do must be forgotten. american maximum time is money, that's all, time has no knowledge, and time is something the most precious state, when you take your time, that i only count happy hours, that is, only happy moments are counted. yes, i remember that the last time you were here, we were discussing roman little benefactor. and then you said prophetic words. even we have this quote to listen to about the fact that in life there should always be someone who rings the bell, because a person can lose his appearance at any moment and all these beautiful phrases are on us in a book of humanistic clothes. you said that at any
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moment all these humanistic ideas, they can easily fly off you too. it seemed right in a person's life there should always be a little man with milk, who is worth knocking so says, and in your life a catastrophe may happen. and here it is here anton pavlovich, the image of a little man with a hammer should stand outside the door and remind you, but humanity has a short memory, you understand, everything, as if it happened perfectly, will not happen again. and it's not true to repeat, maybe just roman says what roman says about the simplest people. that is, what a simple bourgeois you are decent scientists, he will sit or there in the traffic police of energy, oh, he can get carried away with great ideas. but the means to implement this idea of ​​the catastrophic
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error of all gill analysts except individual personalities lies in the fact that they apply western european standard models to the russian mentality, and everything does not work out for them quite difficult. western people, but they are not western, we have an absolutely different fate. she is tied. what seems to me very interesting is that it is connected with those cause-and-effect relationships that will see zorkology, which we do not we take into account. i mean that russian people, like many ethnic groups that live nearby
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, live under sanctions. a thousand years or more. these are sanctions, first of all, of course, climate and geography. these are simply the conditions under which our great culture develops. these conditions differ from the west, that you really love this article, a great work before the russian plowmen, that everything, as it were, originates in the general geographical position of russia. but nevertheless, russian russian culture. she always gave birth to her very interesting unique cultural ideological concepts and so on and for some reason, nevertheless, things that are super relevant today 110 years
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ago were written as relevant as ever. here he writes that why we discard everything that gave us. royal and grasping at any western idea, like a precious gift. why are we not so independent, as it were, here we are the russian intelligentsia, he is talking about the intelligentsia. yes , you see, when we speak, we must say it, we must immediately clarify it. it's not a tectonic plate russian consciousness of the russian intelligentsia and then the struggle of the west with the east this is a rather ancient story, this struggle between latin and greek. this is the struggle of the vatican with byzantium and shor that happened, a worthwhile quarrel that happened between
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catholics and orthodox happened when the crusaders went to byzantium they ruined ventia, that is, they ruined the christian kingdom, and this really began a split when we became hostile each other, this is not a random thing, and, in my opinion, it is easier to negotiate with a tatar than with poles lies between the latin and greek perception of the world. so here is some fundamental thing that seemed to distinguish us, that latins are a world, it is built on the law. yes, that is, well, as if the law defines injustice, and the law of law is roman law, but it turns out western
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civilization, which is very close to me. i really love western culture books, philosopher, and so on and so forth. i was shocked at how a huge number of principles were canceled in a few weeks, relatively speaking, there are paintings that allowed to show them in the museum there temporarily, the rest. i hope this didn't surprise you temporarily. this, that is, you are not surprised, of course. this is a new state of the world, especially the measures of judas christian civilization, because it is not the only one in the world. there is also the great chinese indian latin american, so it's just, probably, the question is that there is a certain erosion of principles that may or may not be temporary. well, that's
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what he was talking about when he said that the west is moving towards the abyss on a rolls-royce, and the russians are going the trams arrived, but this movement is like an erosion of any principle, but still in my opinion. it may be due to the fact that human memory is shortened very much by young people in the world, especially in europe, and we have little. what you still remember is on the internet, which means that it deprives a person of the need to remember. and this is such a famous and something, when an american housewife went to the supermarket, and there are kilometers from home, but his
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gps broke down on the way back, she got lost. that is, we have gps in everything and from here. i think it goes also to some extent, this is how seryozha saved up saying that everything is getting dumber. dull. such adolescence is visible in humanity, even in modern politicians there is some kind of adolescence, the absence of a real education of knowledge. so to speak, including laws and ethics and everything else, there is some kind of. well, the decline of certain things should be treated with compassion. well, there is nothing to rejoice here. this is a complex process. it is clear that there is nothing to rejoice with, the question is where to find this new
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support, when it is spinning, then it is used to something lean there is an article jet, where he opposes the question now they said about education, yes, and he opposes the educated class and the intelligentsia. here is what for us it is such a paradoxical opposition, because we often put an equal sign between what a person who knows a lot. here he is, those intellectuals who have read many books. he has completely different concepts and intelligence for him. first of all , it is a certain class, which is always in conflict with the government and the state, and so on. well, of course, it is, so this is the specificity of the russian society of the intelligentsia. so much in russia in europe there is no intelligentsia in europe there are intellectuals, and in russia there are intellectuals and intelligentsia and strings. i just wrote that the first intellectual is
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radishchev. and the first intellectual is pushkin, and he wrote, just three, that the intellectual is hysterical. intellectual inspired, but it's big, of course. there is a big difference here, and the intelligentsia has arisen. where european consciousness and education came among raznochintsy raznochintsy arose from some class that, in a certain sense, came from the black people. russia was a white and black people and most were people who didn't drink french wine and didn't speak in tongues and didn't wear wigs. and these were people for whom that very formation of society became more and more alien to foreign. and
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the intelligentsia just defended the blacks before the whites. uh, that's why the back door lud - it's all coming from here and no matter how hard we try to eat such an african culturologist wrote that we have in africa harder. uh, we have a democratic software, and here we need to understand this, that we often try to pass off the form as the essence of the content of something else, and we need to understand this to relate to this. sincerely. we need to study this. that's what we do not study klyuchevsky starting to study cause and effect relationships. and why did such a great culture arise and why would others? it is by no means retarded it also says that the palm grows fast and the oak slowly both trees, but they grow differently. well,
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the fact is that philosophers who are trying to understand in essence from the word philosophy. i like to think, they just think, because they cannot help but think. they are usually not as popular as the people who give out. well, as it were, some maximums, that is, conditionally there is an article in which it is not said. why is the state bad it will not be so widespread among the intelligentsia. yes , klyaver was no, he was a wonderful term. uh-huh as from the word poop from the word worst. hmm, the philosopher does not look around. yes, and a politician should look around, otherwise, he will not be in it's a big difference to look around. unfortunately, now it has become very popular and in a
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kind of selfie culture, yes, that is, it turns out that here is a philosopher in its purest form an artist in its purest form, well, conditionally they say you know the picture there is a sin of thinking about the nature of creativity, the nature of what an artist is, but it is important for people to understand who this film is against, how this film argues, for example, with the existing order of things. there is a lot of copyright cinema today. yes, it becomes popular if it is against something, well, conditionally speaking, the exile zvyagintsev's film is not interesting to anyone. leviathan is very interesting. show how the hero fights with the governor so that we understand that he is ours, that he is an intellectual, that he is the real face of russian culture. or is it not? or am i mistaken, but it seems to me that this is exactly what struve writes about and what berdyaev writes about, that well, as philosophy in an honest vision is interesting and, as it were , interesting circles, he called it circles
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party spirit intelligence. well, how is the royal wonderful against whom is she friends? yes, against whom are we friends? this is a very part of the intelligentsia circle of the intelligentsia against. whom we are friends with, this is a kind of circle where are our own where you need this is what we call a party and uh, the desire to m-m be on everyone's lips, but what to do? it was always lev nikolayevich who wrote about this in the war we are looking for, therefore it is, as it were, a part of human weakness and life, the desire to be needed to stand out and so on for pierre brought up abroad. this evening of anna pavlovna was the first that he saw in russia, he knew that all the intelligentsia of st. and his eyes widened like a child in a toy store. well, as for, why
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does an artist create? well, no, just like people are all different, so are artists, so every artist probably dreams of something when he does it, but now he creates a certain one. some world meaning of what we do i think sincerely an artist. trying to understand why a person still lives. he is sincere, he will never find an answer. but you can find it's a sin in the movie, if the sky he looks at is exactly the same, well, i see a big parallel between sin and short stories the bell from andrey rublev , which you wrote together with andrey arsenchev. well
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, because there is, in fact. here is the material that symbolizes, there is clay, which michelangelo's marble is looking for the hero of the bell, but plus there is more for me. here is the elusive ringing of the bell, conditionally saying that it was found. he didn't make sense at that moment. it makes sense, but if the bell for me is the meaning of what the artist does, when i wrote the script, i realized that this is a continuation of rublev when i already wrote it? i am i just understood, but it so happened some kind of there was a continuation of the sublimation of these reflections. no , the bell always rings for you. you just need to know this and that you are very dear to me from the point of view.
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the last, in my opinion, is the speech or message that antonova wrote. this is literally shortly before his passing, an absolutely wonderful article about what we are going through. now, after a difficult time, any civilization comes to an end so that something new can begin and the renaissance is not the only one. events, it repeats and repeated until what we call the renaissance in europe, we are witnessing a really big crisis of the art system. and this crisis can last for more than one century, accompanied by remissions, but so far i do not admit the idea that great art is gone forever, it is impossible to come to terms with this. absolutely impossible. although now in my lectures i have to explain what is good. matisse is already matisse but
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something will definitely appear, green leaves will definitely appear, therefore. the meaning will always remain the same as it was said. i want mine. the main thing is to understand, my task is to understand the plan of god and the rest of the details. but the desire to understand does not mean to understand, but this desire to understand, this is the meaning, but to understand, i think that her lev nikolayevich, and not to mention the great anton pavlovich, they always said that great accounts necessary for ever striving understand, it does not mean to answer yet, yes, it does not mean, but after all , the desire to understand, this is the reason. why
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is an artist, well sincerely an artist does. he wants to understand something. on different levels you know here. michelangelo polissunet he wrote and actually mine. the picture was born of a sonnet that michelangelo wrote in response to a quatrain sent to him by his friend lines when he visited the medici tomb and saw these figures. there, the dawn is a dream, these bodies, and it is being built, wrote that now i feel, now this stone will wake up and michelangelo wrote amazing lines. i then turned on i thought. he wrote it's better to sleep, and it's better to be a stone. when there is shame and
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crime around? not to feel not to see consolation shut up friend. why wake me up? it shocked. me first, it's very poetic. secondly, this is a very powerful image. i want to be stone. shame of crime and that's actually i began to think about why did michelangelo perceive the world around him as a shame of crime? actually, from here, the picture was born, and the fact is that these vrublevs are also this topic, and i think that maybe , in general, any artist at some point, looking around, thinks, why, in general , is what i do these icons these sculptures?
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i saw the mount did not disappoint.
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well, when we wrote rublevo, we were young impudent and convinced that everything was clear and that we would generally write two things from the pages. i remember we lied seriously there and solzhenitsyn was right. i understand this now, we wrote then under the influence of the fact that the tatar-mongol yoke was for us the main enemy. we made scenes when the
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tatars destroy the temple, and he generally rides out on a horse. this is absolutely not true, and in this the strength was the connection of the russians with the sardis, the tatars were tolerant of the faith. yeah, unlike catholics. uh huh, and this it started with a haram doll, when marco polo went there, because the great empire hmm bought it and he read that all religions, just in case. he has with him they surrounded denmark, never touched the monasteries and a wonderful historian. oh, such a wonderful night, he recently died wonderfully and he has lectures. he just writes about the fact that i was also mistaken. i was deluded. uh, when he was convinced that alexander nevsky, well, betrayed russia, he went to the tatars to understand the floor among the lights there. well he had no
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choice, because the latins of course they were coming ruthlessly. the vatican fled, he was intolerant, and a mokhnach writes, because he was an architectural historian, that in all areas where the latin church took possession, there the russian churches were swept away and razed to the ground. and where there were tatars, how the monasteries were preserved, all the churches were preserved, russian culture was preserved, the connection of alexander sharda was preserved. therefore, in this sense, it is interesting that alexey aleksandrovich maslov is a specialist. just some he said that they are chinese, when influence spreads, they take away, there economic influence whatever, but they don't try to get in your head. that is. here you can think what you want to believe, whatever you want, how to adhere to any principles. but here
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you follow those rules, yes, and worn over ideology. and in this sense, it just turns out that and there is western civilization, which grew out of just these beliefs yes, the same teutons and so on, what, in our opinion, should be the british empire, the british empire, then the empire of that saxon and even in general european - this is the lowest lower rashi lower peoples and some kind of hegemot. eh, the russian empire was built on absolutely opposite principles. russia not only absorbed but dissolved there, so shamil or georgian princes are there. or murza, yes, they were all friends, and in general in st. petersburg shamil was in st. petersburg, so we had a different principle of tolerance and we had, that is, the language, maybe
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the state was, but we were very tolerant, so a completely different connection among us it's because we were all boys around everywhere it was cold, everywhere there was poor land, and we all had to spend much more energy on survival, in contrast to the west, our school development was slower. i say, therefore, if they turned off the electricity in new york. actually, i don't know what will happen. and if you turn off the electricity in moscow, even i don’t say anything, nothing will happen. in this sense, they made a brilliant film white nights, where it is completely clear that it is impossible to defeat these people, because, well, let's say mastercard cards do not work now, but they have not seen these
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master card cards. i think the postman has all three pizzas on cards. i doubt it to knock on the neighbor's door and on the playground or where and ask for salt. yes. try it. have you met someone in france, or something, he will think that you have gone crazy there, the doors are open and really. that is, we still live at all. i don’t want to drag it home. so they did not rot such a log for trying to take. when you finish school , we'll hire a postman.
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granny, if they don’t have lots, you know, in the village, she will come and will not be needed. this great. i really love this work, if it’s still warming up, and in general, what connects this film with your new work chronicles of the russian revolution, amazing, which i really, really hope that you will start doing all this now. we 'll see it because i've read the script. i got lucky and i read it like a great novel. well, these are the ends of the means, an important topic. there is a wonderful phrase there. what are you going to shoot at the workers in the name of the revolution and this wedge is addressed yes, one of his entourage. and this one
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the end of the means, is there some end that justifies any means or when you come to something that cannot be true. this must stop. someone from the soul. he said that in order to judge a person it is necessary. shoes and walk his way and everyone has his own way and very few succeed. understand the mistakes of another's delusional dreams, especially if they are opposite to yours. of course, there are bad people everywhere, as well as good ones, but there are not so many absolutely bad people. they are fine. just like on the good ones, they are also abnormal, because you have in general, the equivalent it is like this is the main thing, we are all the most
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interesting for me the last, maybe no more than after all in the cinema of 60 years, but maybe only the last 10 years. i stopped. i realized that it is not necessary to give direct answers, it is necessary for the viewer to draw some conclusions for himself, because we all live in paradigms. each of us believes that we are each of us, what he believes, he considers the truth, and here are two people with opposite points of view, each of them is convinced that he is truly on his side. but, probably, both of them are somehow right and the audience should already decide who he will consider, with whom he will agree with whom not, and i think that i
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borrowed this, although you know, after all, lev nikolayevich in his reflections on the war and the world of nimir, and of war he says that why these masses of thousands of hundreds of thousands of people, the french or russians went somewhere, what moved them and he says, just that this atomization of society, then combines into a kind of will hegemon, this is how you can lay a stone, and here, well, tolstoy, in my opinion, there is a stone, and someone is digging a hole he digs a hole for her, digs a hole, digs a hole next to the stone, and then the last movement with a shovel collapses, but in order for him to fall there, it was necessary to
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dig the entire hole, that is, this movement, it somehow accumulates for me it seems that what we are living now is just the last movement of the shovel, and this huge stone, which is called conflict, fell there. between latins and greeks yes , of course, yes. well, i have that feeling too . it didn't happen at this moment. my poles helped you yes, it was taras bulba well, this is tragic thing, it's a tragedy, but the story is not unexpected. you know i how many years 12 years ago did. film the battle for ukraine and just there and already these reflections for a long time ukraine has always had a place for the
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applications of the latin and greek cathedrals, in which this confrontation began there is a long process. it's not just a few people there, they suddenly decided something. here's another question, that someone had to get up in these shoes and walk the path. why is it so difficult to identify your nation, well, firstly, because it is everything time has been divided. it has always been under someone under the poles of the russian empire of all the interests of geopolitical strategic major players. and so every player. the scripts that i read there are very cool and unobtrusive. actually, the process of how one historical figure replaces another from the
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secondary character lenin is shown there, and then stalin turns into the main character. and we understand that, in general, it was not laziness that did it relatively speaking, but such a person as lenin turned out to be in demand by the ongoing process. most important for me. uh, for some time to climb rushing with shoes will lenin the emperor or some person from the artistic intelligentsia stand for some time in his position. therefore, they are all dear to me, but you know, i am somewhat extremely. i would say that i am exaggerating about the fact that people of historical figures are the way they were in life, which is almost
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impossible to be. he is me, unfortunately. maybe only shchukin was somehow similar to lenin klinin was a sharp wedge was a gambling lenin was an intolerant husband was very boyish, the boy is always intolerant. i'll probably look for artists for me. it's just that i love not artists, in general, one might say, the founder, nag. i will have to find. here are absolutely similar, so that he said, where to ask my colleagues to find me. well, you will do a folk casting, yes, tell me about it. i hope for people who sent me the crime of their
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photos or acquaintances. here is nikolayevich for you here is tsar nicholas ii for you, there you are, lenin here for you rasputin because that's persuasiveness, it is, of course, not an interpretation in existence. how does a man exist, not how he plays? one cossack called an old cossack of our commissar a barbarian. so they cut out his tongue. they nailed his chin with nails and took him around the yards until he died. so i'll tell you, there is no god at home, daughter. and this question. requires discussion. vodka
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splashed better opened something. i took it to the party. i don't have vodka. let's remember, shall we? some guy swears at me, right? accepted. but if khabensky swears in a close-up, he will play swearing, a man sitting on the roof dropped his hammer. there he let the mother absolutely pass. that's amazing, this is amazing. the thing is some kind of property, we immediately know that a person is a text or just that very often in our plays now russian sand has a mat, this we learned from the americans, but the americans have a completely different jargon, vulgar a completely different emotional
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load goes to these words are absolutely and when we have sounds in the theater. here he beats people. nothing is is happening is not happening is that so, well, okay. and it's very interesting. this is a matter of psychophysiology and perception. there are so many things about morality and ethics. which can be called where aesthetics. and where does the aesthetics end? because you are a worker, a hooligan, they are workers. do you know that khrushchev is calling me? the president of the moscow central committee collects explanatory work to conduct, how did you conduct it, if
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you have a working post at a plant of allied significance. how is a strike in our socialist society? you now brought to moscow? taming of the shrews, or rather, well, how would you start betting here? yes? i brought an idea in my head, you brought ideas in my head, yes, because you staged it in italy, now you stage it here, and in the theater of the moscow city council the taming of the shrew, when i think about what the taming of the shrew is and, of course, there was a wonderful production. i saw it joe dad meryl streep well, it was such a textbook, a wonderful reading. she played brilliant i would say great

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