tv Kto protiv RUSSIA1 August 22, 2022 2:55pm-5:01pm MSK
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good afternoon. this is a program, who is against on channel russia 1 and in the studio dmitry kulikov, the fsb of russia announced a few minutes ago that the murder of daria dugina was solved behind the crime, the ukrainian special services performer natalia vovk, born in 1979, the materials of the investigation were transferred by the fsb of russia to the investigative committee of the russian federation. the united states may soon to declare a default on the external debt , said nikolai patrushev, secretary of the security council of russia, as a result of a default, the assets of any country, in
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dollars, will simply be stolen over time pandemics. the west produced the largest issue of money in 40 years. the united states printed five and nine tenths of a trillion dollars, and europe two and nine tenths of a trillion euros in the uk port workers' strike. this disrupts the supply chain to the court of millions of pounds, the strike goes on, stores empty, gas prices in europe are over $3,000. but after all, for chancellor khabik, he declares the inadmissibility of launching nord stream 2, since this will be the victory of russia and putin's arrest. suddenly i discovered that the west simply does not have the artillery necessary in ukraine, true, he did not say what ukraine should do with this knowledge now. today. russia widely responds to the day of the national flag in the celebration, the donetsk and luhansk republics, as well as the
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liberated territory of zaporozhye, kherson kharkiv region, participate. here is what the president of russia vladimir putin said in the address on the occasion of the holiday. the state flag symbolizes fidelity to our traditional values, from which we have never deviated from truth and justice, solidarity and mercy. respect for centuries the continuous history of russia to the achievements and victories of our ancestors, who bequeathed us to protect and protect the motherland never allow external dictate and hegemony. therefore, the desire to live according to one's own will, to make the choice of one's own path to follow it, is said to be part of the genetic code of our people. russia is a powerful independent world power. we are firm in pursuing in the international arena only those policies that meet the fundamental interests of the fatherland
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the national flag, like the unfading red the banner of victory is the upbringing of the rising generation of values patriotism citizenship responsibility for the future of the motherland. here we have yes , today, of course, is a holiday and, uh, we understand more and more that what the russian flag is for us is a very powerful symbol that stands for russia here, russians here and each of us citizens. e of russia everyone who considers himself a member of the russian world understands that this flag is probably associated with the content that makes a person russian and russian. but yesterday yesterday, of course, we did not have a holiday, because in the morning we, for example, in the morning, at night, many learned that daria e dugina died tragically as a result of a terrorist attack, and yesterday very, very many
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people. condolences were expressed to the father of the deceased alexander dugin. and of course. uh, yesterday we didn't know what it was exactly, but today, uh, the federal security service reported that at least the perpetrator of the murder was established that the crime was prepared and committed by the ukrainian special services by the perpetrator is a citizen of ukraine vovka natalia pavlovna , seventy-ninth year of birth facebook. more precisely, or that the wolf, along with her twelve-year-old daughter , arrived in russia on july 23 and rented an apartment in the house where adugina lived in order to collect information about her lifestyle to monitor the journalist, the perpetrator of the crime used a mini-cooper car at the entrance to russia, there were dpr numbers in moscow, the kazakhs, when leaving the ukrainians on the day of the murder with their daughter , were at the festival, a tradition where dugina
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attended as. the guest of honor, after committing a controlled explosion of a car at the wheel, which was in dugin, on august 21, the twenty- second year, the wolf, together with her daughter, left for the pov region through the pskov region to estonia , the special services were added and the investigation materials were transferred to the investigative committee of russia, yes, well, quite quickly in the investigation. it has passed that we can, of course, we can only welcome on the other hand what e those who committed, this crime is already in estonia and the hope for the fact that estonia will go there to extradite them. it seems to me very little, but uh, you know with that in connection with the fact that this happened. and the fact that he is a terrorist, that ukraine is switching to terrorist methods. yes, uh, we talked in this studio, not only in this studio. quite a long time ago . eh, and what does it do? and why is this
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happening? we also had a heated discussion. me, of course, just as a person, as a journalist. uh, well, more like just human, of course, once again. well, it's just amazing, anyway i don't i can accept it somehow. this is the reaction. yes, to the death of this young, smart, talented woman, who is to blame, which is before that part of the ukrainian or our liberals and those who left and some, as it turned out even here in our country, who are present, her fault is only in what she thinks. and he thinks yes, he has different views, but this is enough to arrange this next dance on the bones, you understand? well, somehow, on the one hand, it’s hard to hit us with this, but accept it anyway, here i am as a human being i can’t every time, i don’t care about this bottom, which they break every time, and the abyss that is between us. here in
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our worldview, the worldview of the understanding of life, there is what is good, what is bad. she always amazes me. i just ca n’t understand every time, yes, these people and what and bears here, kill me. it has been explained and explained to me many times. i read, therefore, i agreed with these thoughts, but as a human being, they still cannot accept this. yes, and of course, as the west reacted. yes, here are numerous publications in the british press, first of all. well , as always, as a result of a car explosion , putin's daughter died. eh, colleague. it 's a mystery. here. uh, there is a guess. uh, so, uh, which was most likely a false flag attack. yes, and so on and so forth. uh, there are no publications, not a single hypothesis that uh,
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that this is the action of the ukrainian special services and the ukrainian terrorist state in the london press. at least. i didn't see it this morning. well, i turned attention, e in the telegram. uh, anatoly shariy for a moment. uh, because alexander dugin was not widely known in ukraine, and, uh, they did not know his philosophical search for philosophical works in him, and just a day before the murder on one of the central channels. uh, there was a program in ukraine. which told about him. and they called him there, well, secretly, somehow, a cardinal superman who manipulates all our politics, all our ideology, all our philosophy, and therefore he introduced himself the day before the murder of his daughter the day before this attempt. uh, it was presented by the ukrainian media as such, well, the concentration, uh, of everything russian and all the most
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terrible on them vasily well, you know, uh, the death of a young journalist of a young girl is always a tragedy, so, of course, condolences remained. this is the most natural thing i can say, but about the fact itself. uh, you understand the tract, if the fsb has already established it turns out that the ukrainian special services organized a terrorist attack on the territory of russia, that is, you think in moscow. and the goal of an anti-civilian against a civilian is clear. i was taught at the academy the purpose of any terror. this is a psychological impact on the population on the population of russia on the citizens of moscow. i think that the goals are very simple not to fight, not to support the war in ukraine, and so
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on. but what will happen next, i'm afraid, i'm afraid to predict, but i think that the war of special services, it will continue and we, i, i just can only to assume what it will result in and what kind of victims will now be uh, uh in ukraine and and. how many people can? are they at least in danger? i'm picking my words hard because i can imagine. you see, when we told you last week that international politics began to use the word here more and more often. she initiated the issue of recognizing russia and the state as a method of terrorism. it was said here that ukraine is exercising the throne, and this is a fact, and this is a fact, if after this fact russia will speak. these will not even come forward, but recognize ukraine as state terrorism. and this step is obviously either the next one or after a step, uh, well, you understand
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what state i am a citizen of. and not only i, every citizen of ukraine, will ask this question. what do we support, we support a state that is engaged in terror? or are we citizens who do not support this government that is engaged in terror? that is, why am i saying that every citizen of ukraine once again had to face a choice. do you know or in this situation it will not be, because this is the officially proclaimed doctrine of your state is nazified and your strongly nazified society is official. i'm here, you know. well, we showed melnik there. uh, your other as i thought, uh, persons officially today, i will show you the ambassador of your country in kazakhstan here. listen, this is you, the ambassador of your country . kill as many as possible, the more we kill russians now, the less our
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children will have to kill. that's it, official. this is what is called a diplomat. it's in my own way in another country. what hopes do you express this state does not have the right to exist as a nazi terrorist state and there is more than enough evidence for this, starting from all the murders that this state also committed. e for the last 8-9 years. starting with the burning of people in odessa olesya buzina killing the killing of commanders in the donbas well , by the way, the method is the same handwriting, the same explosive device. to condolences on the occasion of this tragic death of a young woman, as
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my classmate wrote, in general, the police here dmitry lev can not kill a beautiful woman, of course, you can’t kill anyone. and here it is somehow doubly painful and sad from this news yesterday and today, and this mark on the soul, of course, remains with everyone, and i think our compatriots. i would draw your attention to the next moment, where this citizen with her daughter, suspected of this terrorist act, went. she left for the country that just recently made a decision by its parliament to declare our country a sponsor of terrorism. and in this regard. here i give 90% that they will not extradite this citizen vovk at the request of the federal security service of the prosecutor general's office and so on and so the question arises. who is really? my sponsor of terrorism here, estonia, may perhaps think about
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this issue, which, as far as we know, is preparing the eighth package of sanctions against our country. and the fact that you absolutely rightly said right there and pain and other things, and we remember by the commanders of the militia whom we buried with more the same and in general, again, we know that terrorism is weapons of the weak. this is a harbinger of the defeat of a country that is going to do such things. in short, well, yes, this is the absence of the absence of the ability to resist in that layer of resistance that is here, but at the same time, i believe that our country can have one of the richest sad experiences of life under the threat of terrorism and successful fight against this terrorism in the nineties and early 2000 we. let's go, so i think, well, maybe only israel has more experience in this sense. uh, than we have therefore
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i think that we should, of course, well, remember everything and turn. ah, to our new possibilities. yes the security forces, and i have no doubts that we'll be here no further. in this case, we will defeat not only the threat of terrorism, but the very source of this terrorism has grown. well, we will win there, the question is only when, because there is certainly terrorism there. it is a weapon of the weak and terrorism. these are the harbingers of defeat. except hmm the palestinians have been terrorizing israel for almost 100 years and israel just the same has been terrorizing the palestinians for almost 100 years. and neither one nor the second, so far, that they are not going to finish, it means that the end of this region is not visible. so, uh, we must proceed from the fact that such actions create a very serious problem. for
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the future we must not forget that only for the last year. millions of citizens of ukraine ended up on the territory of russia and their number will increase, and with the accession of new territories it will increase significantly. and among them already now there are a lot of prepared to become agents who will engage in terror, if those who arrived, if those who will be included along with the new territories among those who are now receiving from the board, then, and uh, this, by the way, has, then, the goal is not only to exert a psychological impact on russia on the russian population. now, it means the principle. well, come on, let 's make peace and stop fighting, otherwise we'll kill everyone in a row and it's clear that this thing won't reach everyone in a row, that is, there are too many people in russia, uh. there's a chance that hit someone there next is minimal. it is clear that someone will be killed, but uh, well, for everyone,
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we are practically striving for them. well, for each individual person taken separately, but to lay hmm for the future confrontation of distrust between the two parts of the russian people, yes, between those. now include in russia and those. who has been living there for a long time. this is, in general, enough to become. uh, an interesting idea that ukraine is now actually implementing ukraine will no longer be, but a problem. it will still play on a long-playing one. well they yeah they try to create this problem, but we were told the same thing about the collision. as they said, yes, that clash with islamist terrorism will give rise to us forever, we have overcome the problem of relations with islam. they found a way to overcome this story, we don’t have it, as they threatened us with eternal confrontation with islam. so i’m sure you are now yes, yes with
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radical islam, uh, therefore, well, you describe some of their goals, so to speak, correctly. yes i agree, but uh for every goal achievement there is an opportunity to create difficulties sometimes. her in in general, not achievable in charging it for many years timofey well, i think that it doesn’t matter at all whether russia recognizes ukraine as a terrorist state or doesn’t recognize it, it does n’t matter at all, because, well, we entered er. in this sense, not only in the confrontation with ukraine or there with america as a whole, like this. how is the history of mankind in everything? we have entered the realm of the actual. here is such a fact. this is how mayakovsky predicted, by the way, with an inflamed lip from a river called fact. so these explanations interpretation of all this does not matter
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at all, only the fact itself matters. and accordingly, what will russia do, what fact will it create, what other historical fact will be stronger? that, in fact, is all, but on the merits of what happened. well what can we say? well , it’s clear that it’s on the right track against dugin. that’s probably an attempt on him. well, right there it doesn’t matter, because the effect will nevertheless reach. what effect? well? on the one hand, it was composed, this is a fantastic story about the new rasputin. here and all this is done in order to approve this phantasm, not even a fantasy, but a phantasm, that is, such a delusional reflection in this sense. well, it 's in style. this is the same as with violinists with a beginner here in general, style. the origin is clear. where did they come from, not even themselves, this is not a hut. even came up with. here it will be possible to approve it,
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hardly hardly here and what is really behind this. well, dugin is not a politician, not a journalist, he actually did not call anyone for anything. never his job is quite different he is a man of knowledge. he actually left the diagnosis of this system of relations. and they are afraid of the diagnosis. they are afraid of diagnoses, because there is a real fear behind it. oh, they see us there in medicine there is such a term it is a festering fear of a diagnosis. i'd rather not go get tested. what if i have cancer. well, you're not going to get tested . and that it will save you from what you have, what is behind this fear of this knowledge, the representative of which was and remains the other. and against this completely crime
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against knowledge, but in this sense against the truth. i am i want to remind you that overcoming our period is just terrorist activity on the territory of our country in due time. we started with the words of the president, we will wet, where we find there we will wet the toilet, so joining the general, then well, the fact is just let's have a simple fact, and i won't say anything more, in principle, 11 addresses of such a toilet, povitroflotsky avenue in kiev, house 6 armed forces headquarters of ukraine everything well , yes, thank you for introducing us to this address. here i think, i think this is the address i am i think that all addresses are well known. here and uh here they do it here. they are in this vasil here. you see, you somehow say how he will answer there. russia will answer the way it will answer. and
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by the way, mind you. note. after everything that happened here in the donbass with minami, the petal with the murder was given by dugin to russia has a full moral right, but there is no other, because , as sergeytsev said, the facts remain, and morality remains with those who are guided by it, because morality. this is what belongs to you. unlike morality. so here is a complete moral right and a moral right. russia has to answer any. in whatever way it sees fit and, by the way, the vast majority of our citizens will support this, and this is what you are probably afraid of. yes, most of all, but pay attention to the progress along this path. which can end in much greater tragedies, commits all the time, well, the country that was previously called
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the country and the state of ukraine, what is left of it, it does it all the time. what, i 'll think about your questions, because uh, you know when we talk about the maelstrom of war. military actions. we are discussing it in a whirlpool, and here in parallel, as it were, the components of this military action. this is kind of a response. or is it some kind of operation separately, like an operation of terror, like but, what is the essence of the thousands of choices of trousers of forbidden petals, you will also apply this already, well, you will also cut the reduction with scissors. ah, snowflakes. no, i won’t cut it, because i can add shelling here, kharkiv, kherson region. oh, and dams. and in general, e cities in kherson, which, well, this is the territory of ukraine and they live there citizens of ukraine and when we are the ukrainian authorities, a
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fires at its citizens. but in this chain, when you say, but russia has a moral right completely. for what, that is, including shelling further than the kherson region? or how should it be? you know, here the word russia is shelling a civilian area. yes, i 'm talking about what you are trying to do now, you are trying to set the logic here. yes, here are the petals, let's say crazy. i did not understand about the shelling of russia in the kherson region. i say that i am extremely negative about to the fact that the ukrainian authorities are shelling the ukrainian armed forces of ukraine shelling kherson, it was important to clarify, it was simply incomprehensible because of what to say and and and you understand the meaning, uh, my final conclusion. is always. i tried to reduce to one that let's stop hostilities. and now we, and now what,
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should we stop terrorist acts or terror against our own citizens or against citizens of a neighboring state? that is, the war has begun, terror has begun and the war and terror will continue and what is it and when will it end? at i don't have an answer. yes? you understand what's the matter. this can only end with one goal - the destruction of the source of terrorism of nazism and the danger to russia a. note. tell me what it sounded like in the very first goals, and they were in this sense, well, it’s not at all by chance that it was indicated when when it is said that in the last very recent words of our president. yes, when he collected everything at once inside one goal, well, in different places it was said, yes, it must be removed from the source, a constant danger for russia for the russian federation for its population for its state. and
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you understand, and here you are, and we also showed the ambassador of ukraine in kazakhstan yes, who said that we must destroy, and if we do not destroy the russians, then our children will have to be destroyed. i'm asking, i'm just, well, impossible. i am outraged by such words, but i apologize. yermak, the head of the office, says the same words almost the same words. they say yermak also agreed that, uh, if zelensky said differently that there are no good russians, then yermak says that yes almost exactly the same. which ambassador of ukraine to kazakhstan so it boils down to what it has now become state policy? yes, this is government policy. this is the state policy. if you can apply this word to this, because the state, as such, exists in ukraine no, well, there is a shubla, which is covered by the signboard of the state. and it's uh, noisy, she's a nazi terror. well, from the fact
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that there is no state in ukraine. this does not mean that some state does not implement its policy and implements it quite successfully, because at the beginning we were actually forced to get involved in hostilities in ukraine, then we were actually forced to start annexing territories, let me remind you that at the first stage of a special operation. we said that apart from the recognition of the donetsk crimea, we do not need anything there at all. so, then a clear territory - people are now doing everything so that these territories remain as deserted as possible, and the people on them remain as hostile as possible, but not only are they hostile to names, as i said, but we too hostile to them so that we consider them all without exception as potential terrorists. that is, the same united states creates for us. yes, with the hands of idiots sitting in kiev, they create a rather long-term problem. and how do you say it right? of course, i decided it means, but the problem is being created not because someone thinks that you can’t solve it, but simply so that it exists so that it
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draws resources from your forces, there and so on, but unleashes someone hands but wait but not here nothing surprising. i can say everything you described in a simpler way. losing in a certain word of confrontation at all stages is necessary there. well, for fun, i start it there with kushvari. yes, i will do it from the first year, losing the next confrontation at all levels , and the confrontation was announced by america then publicly. here they are all the time seeking to transfer this to a higher level of escalation, but there you just need to understand where the final point is the president of russia, so to speak, even easier if you lose on one political platform go to another one, where maybe you will win. maybe these are your questions. perhaps the question is where it may end, but the president of russia has clearly indicated this clarity. absolutely. and why do we need a world in
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which there will be no russia? therefore, we have a final point and the back wall is well known. we are simply not interested in accelerating ourselves to this point. moreover, we are not only not interested in yours, we have been doing everything over the years. here you can parse it for each episode doing everything to slow down as much as possible. this is movement. this has been and is still the strategy of russia, and you are trying to change it. well, no matter how they regret advertising after it, it will continue. big movie screen, what's going on here?
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this is a program, who is against it on channel russia 1, but we continue our discussion. that's what we discussed in the first part, of course, was born. today we recalled the terrorism of the late 1990s and early 2000s that we had to face, but we must also remember the basis of origin. eh, all this, so to speak, tragic line. yes, with nazism, fascism and terrorism. it's basically the same line, and here, uh, in the final of uh, the big army forum, 20-22, which was last week hosted the first anti-fascist congress. it is very important. this is a very important event and performance. there were very interesting, very tough and principled. well , let's see what minister of defense sergei shoigu said at this congress fundamental principles of the world order legal
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political assessments of the nuremberg tribunal are increasingly being ignored and revised by individual countries. in estonia, latvia, the traditional marches of css legionnaires have become war criminals no monuments and obelisks are erected nazi slogans and slogans are openly heard on the streets of lithuanian cities calls. today we are witnessing another vivid manifestation of nazi policy. when is high phobia actively promoted from the high european stands? the idea is to ban all russian citizens. the entry of an eu country the lessons of history are poorly learned by those who, relying on their own strength, commit violence the bombing of yugoslavia wars in afghanistan iraq and libya the cultivation of terrorist structures in syria these and similar crimes
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always have specific initiators and perpetrators responsible for such an action their consequences entirely lies with the leadership of the united states of america, especially when it talks about nazism in ukraine , official kiev openly declared itself the heir and continuer of the bloody ukrainian nationalists. the verkhovna rada proclaimed the militants, and he fell as fighters for national independence after the collapse of the soviet union in washington did everything to create an antipode of russia from ukraine with the promotion of legislation prohibiting the russian language, russian media, russian culture, everything connected with our country, many in ukraine do not
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adopted such a policy, including the residents of donbass who did not indulge the ruling regime of its nationalist nazis. then a cruel, punitive operation was unfolded against them for 8 years. the kiev regime committed a flagrant crime against citizens of the dpr. against this background , in february, the supreme commander took the only right decision to conduct a special military operation, its main goal was to protect the inhabitants of donbass from genocide by
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the kiev regime. is it a country that supports such quasi-fascist terrorist organizations and countries? is they themselves then what is their status? we understand everything about the baltic states, we have already given our assessment of the political and moral. whatever. but now we have european countries that support here, according to some information. we can do it now assume that, let's say, it's a murderer. let's say she flew from riga to germany to some european country, maybe, but if we germany apply for extradition, let's say, how will they react? i think that we, just like in the case of the baltic countries, are unlikely to be optimistic here, here we ourselves must understand that this is some kind of huge conglomerate of countries that, voluntarily or involuntarily, is being assembled again. this is the army of all the armies against our country in the most diverse form. in the most varied incarnations in the same way that we need
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to prepare now, and i am convinced that a military operation. it will be completed. you and i already approximately understand what plane the clash with ukraine will take in this issue in exactly the same way, and now we must understand that our relations with the strange west are primarily america england and european ones. they are now also being transformed and are moving into a fundamentally different state. thank god we have already agreed, and we already seem to agree that we no longer call their partners at various levels. these are our enemies. therefore, accordingly, we need to restructure our attitude and economic and political and ideological relationship precisely as with our enemies of another way out. we don't have now . this whole thing started. probably not started today. from the moment of the existence of russia, from the moment of the polish corridor, when even the middle ages they tried to resist us and not let europe
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prohibit the technological breakthrough of russia and recent times. i'll just remind you the whole story vile with olympia- with the olympic movement. well , then we remember, but it seems to be such an almost neutral moment. this is a specific russophobia. specific, anti-state anti-russian policy was precisely these countries that taught us some moral criteria. today, if you look in particular about ukraine, why be surprised if in the pantheon of heroes she led the first hero of stepan bandera, the killer, who was in a polish prison for the murder of a polish minister. so she put in this way the basis of their policies. uh, politicians politicum terror. however, there were also other ukrainians. eh, if we recall pavel platov and others who clearly opposed such actions. i do not want to say that klin knocks out with a wedge. this is not
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our policy, but if we recall recent events, let's say the story with the violin here is hysteracht. and where is the ideology here is the terrorist attack and here and where is the ideology and i do not agree with a respected colleague and one letter a second about the millions of citizens of ukraine who are in our country. here it was said that damn it, a battle in the wedge between one and a third and the second, but the citizens of the great country or two parts of the hadron people. and i, as soon as it happens on the air, have not been busy lately. every time i say that comrade citizens of ukraine, it's time to liberate our homeland. and they are waiting for you in donetsk and lugansk, and i can repeat this again, and it's time to form ukrainian brigades and fronts and hand them the sign. kharkov odessa nikolaev divisions, because any stop of the war, even on the same beloved mine odessa, nikolaev will only mean a postponed war. we must go further. uh, well, at
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the level of slogans. yes, it's kind of understandable. but i think we don't have time for air right now. yes , we just have time for very specific decisions that must be made and implemented without any unnecessary discussion there. that's how it seems to me, and then time will tell, because i agree that we must begin to live in e, in space and time and facts. yes, because, well, after all, everything that well, as it were, was a frame. the ideologies of values that have been discussed for so long by all the witches, starting from, uh, some documents about human rights, and ending with institutions and international organizations, all of these others, none of this exists anymore. no, it exists, some kind of signs hang. here's how a
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sign hangs in the state ukraine too. by the way, what ishchenko said by the same international organizations that were written by i am an international organization for everyone, but in fact it’s just there, well, here are american hands and on these, uh, dummy hands. here, therefore, here the question is, so to speak, appeals. i don't think that we can decide something, but from the fact that it didn't start today, you're right, but there's always something new going on. on sunday, andrey konchalovsky and our famous outstanding artist celebrated his jubilee. director, here is the person to whom he said interesting words on the question of the president to the question of the president of our country. look for our president has a deal. look at the hegemony of the united states is leaving. well, yes, you can see it leaves. uh, the hegemony of the united states was primarily in the hegemony of the dollar after the war. as
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you know, the dollar just penetrated everywhere, it seemed that it was even impossible to get rid of it, but it is already ending in this sense. because in this sense. putin president took on an absolutely heroic. brave role all who tried to saddle or eliminate? the dominance of the dollar field victims and fell kennedy dagol gaddafi saddam
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hussein in this sense i think there is no more. sworn enemy, he is realist than ours the president. and what is the place in russia in this new world? russia is an original country, no matter how they try to bring it to a common denominator, nothing will work. well, konchalovsky deeply understands the people's foundation of our state. well, geometric peasant basics. he says this, that's what he said today, then he
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says, far from the first year you can watch his ten-year-old speech and even earlier a few years ago, but really, and we are in a situation somewhat reminiscent of the situation of soviet russia well, to by the end of the nep , no one had ever wanted us to trade. we were unrecognized diplomatically. we were under the most severe embargoes and sanctions. well, there was a big war ahead, which was completely incomprehensible, how this country can prepare for the little time left. well, in this sense, we are now approximately in the same position. although, of course, many of our issues have been resolved since then, yes, over the past uh, almost 100 years 90 years like this approximately. well, how do you count? yes, a herd 90 that's but according to the political a-a disposition of positions.
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opposing each other, we are in precisely this position, and the director correctly says that the president acts in accordance with this position. well, i don't quite agree, because we were in this position in the late nineties. and now the big war is already underway. and as practice and experience show, they are not good enough, they prepared themselves, otherwise we would not be here now. and by the way, as for, in principle, russia, yes, so i am this the most, i also understand this e well, e will and desire to become the russian people, but they are unacceptable for me in this situation, because it means the people are trying to mobilize the first icon, and then now chop with checkers. i will tell her from the fact that if you want to achieve victory, you must destroy the enemy, but destroy him gently
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so that he does not even notice it in order not to create unnecessary problems for himself so that he does not resist. uh, why exactly physically destroy in order for him not to resisted too hard. and for this you need to be sensible and sober. this is basically an opponent to evaluate. and so, when we talk there about fascism, which just once again came out with us. we must understand that it was not only fascism that came out against us. it was exactly the same. in the forty- first year, hungary, romania, fought against us, which were authoritarian regimes, but were not fascist, not crossed arrows, nor legionnaires. and the authorities were not there, which means, but in front of us, fascist spain, portugal, did not fight. that is, when we are dealing with our enemies. yes, we should not paint them in the same color. we must see the nuances, because these nuances we can use to our advantage. bobby has to close the watchdog's mouth before we kill bobby with a stick. yes, the main thing is that there should be two of them while there, i see only one is meant, i do not want to offend. i respect the street, i respect the position of hungary yes, well, it stands out. yes
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, if all the other wrestlers, then yes, hungary and all the rest you had a cue. yes, just exchange. i do not think, firstly, that it is possible. that the enemy is imperceptible to himself, this is some kind of utopia, this does not happen, and in the nineties we were in a position, rather close to when wales came, er, to lenin and then wrote this essay about it here russia here to this, if it limits analogy. that's why we can't be on a solid fact, we have one fact, and interpretations will always be different, you know, analogy is always limited by the method. that's what timothy said. i can add something else performance. uh, well, we didn't have it at the end of the sky. yes , nothing similar to the avant-garde dagger, there and everything
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else. yes, therefore, in some ways, as they say, philosophers, worse and similarly and in some ways very different. it is always a characteristic of the situation you. i want with gold, gold piece. i want to return. to the speech of shoigu, the minister of defense of the russian federation, he also spoke at the anti-fascist anti- fascist forum, yes, which was held for years, i have been participating in the first congress for years. yes. uh, i'm sorry i've been performing with you for years opponents, defending that ukraine is not a nazi state is fascist, but by and large. this is the total of all these discussions and disputes, if there is already one. uh, congress, if the minister of defense speaks at it, yes, that is, a military man who clearly designates and he says, approximately yes, in my words, that ukraine is a nazi state, ukraine is a fascist state, now ukraine is a terrorist
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state for me. this is very painful. this is a disaster for one simple reason, because that in russia a base is being laid in order to understand so what to do with this state, it must be destroyed, that is, after this. eh, do you understand such things? i understand that, well, ukraine is just like a state of choice. yes, this is what i said, you understand the rains, where you and, by the way, the western hosts lead. where does this path of sublimation come all the time. actually. we have already treated you wanted something else. yep, here's a short one too. yes, the fact is that ukraine is afraid of a diagnosis. she is afraid of the diagnosis. if this diagnosis had been accepted before this, perhaps it would not have happened, but now index 13 has happened, and the russian military-political system in this respect. she caught the target and turned there. you understand what ’s the matter, how interesting it is, what else happened it ’s now proved to history that the only way to set someone on russia is to directly graft this stalk
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onto a stump of this german fascist germany i ’m just used to it, and in relation to the direct continuation of fascist germany sorry, we have only one answer to the division which is not surrendered after the signing of the surrender, they are subject to destruction. well, just to the fact that we discussed with you, oh, missiles and new weapons. let's see the minister of defense, but daggers. 157 aircraft were exchanged and used. uh, this plane proved to be a brilliant plane. uh, it has a very high degree of protection. here, a different air defense system. it has missile protection. well, there are a lot of things. and most importantly, very, very powerful weapons. this expression. we also tried and tested. it works, brilliant from
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another word. here i find, uh, a dagger, a dagger, a hypersonic missile with a speed of almost 10 speeds of sound, more than 10 machs, while changing its trajectory along the line, along the route. like vertically such horizontal planes. in general, it is virtually impossible, but to take it and we strike at especially important targets. uh, it was used in our emergency special military operation three times and three times, showed its brilliant performance characteristics that no other similar missile in the world has. actually such no one else has a rocket. and such a hypersonic speed with such penetrating with such it is impossible not to detect or intercept. where i
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would like to speak about what rostislav said more about the fact that they were lured, that means they are forcing them to spend energy and money, and so on. i just remember the nineties very well , and there the beginning of the 2000s is the north caucasus, where they also forced to strain to spend forces, funds, which, by the way, were then much less than now in our country, and so on. that's just uh after all, the fact is that as a result of this strain of forces and means we get, and we got this brilliant formulation in mariupol, in this whole story in the north caucasus, which , uh, there we got what when we heard. and allah akbar yes, the russians came, you understand, uh, and what we have now, yes, uh, including with a special military operation and participation, yes, of the same north caucasian peoples who were back then in the nineties. you remember yes, those theoretical
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underground. chechen republic of ingushetia in kabardino-balkaria and, in short, in circassia and so on. yes, what is it, what happened? and what and what we have now is just as i believe, as a result of that stress and expenditure of funds. and uh, you know, maybe i understand that yes is not the best. yes , when you have to hmm to carry out such military operations, there and so on, where people die, where a unfortunately, yes, all elements, including the civil war, are present and so on. well, but when the opposite side is enticing. but then, too, well, what can i say? uh, all this hmm the history of the north caucasus was fueled by the fact that between us is international terrorism and it is clear who protected the roof and who gave money and so on. what result do you understand? and what will be the result, we should think about what will be the result of a special military operation on
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on channel russia 1 we continue our discussion. uh, well, we talked, yes, rafael said they stopped calling e partners. uh, well, here, o is talking interestingly about his partners and his colleagues, the ex-minister of foreign affairs. austria here is such a, such a river, which , in my opinion, definitely captures, and even the problems of fictitious objects with which we deal all the time, we think, the state. there, we do not think the state is a politician, but he is not quite a politician. well, see for yourself. during my work as a minister, i have photographs from meetings with the pope of rome by various colleagues from the european union. however, i did not intentionally take with me the mythical pictures of the meeting with foreign minister sergei lavrov and with vladimir putin with whom she
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i have had occasion to conduct outside talks inside four times for me more interesting memories because i had the impression that i was in the company of adults to the west of vienna. often male colleagues from the eu and they are called fats are constantly agitated constantly in a position of moral superiority. if you want to talk to adults, then you have to go to moscow and break or newedels in france to study grammar. i would say you are my life, because you are busy with completely different lamps. that's why i often say that music has given me a really great meaning to life. well, here is russian grammar. yes, it's certainly great, but it's interesting. what a wide list of serious people she uh
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preferred to talk to. yes, this is not only russia, not only beijing and slava new delhi. yes, maxim well , this position, which has the right to exist , is moreover very bad, that such a position has recently been under pressure in europe, because the prince, and at the time when she headed the foreign ministry as chancellor, the course was one of the most adyghe-quat european politicians, despite their youth, the last maybe two decades. he has now been removed, it is a pity that there are few such politicians, that other politicians with a different background and a different intellectual level are replacing him. and yesterday we just spoke with a very good french journalist who has been working in russia and all the regions for many decades. tiles we just agreed on this, and when we started our journalistic activities, what was the level
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european leaders mitterand, kol magaritych, what now, but now much lower? in general, we came to the conclusion that of those who stayed, probably the best sputum, which we also like to water here, but nonetheless. that's when they get to the fundamental moments precisely from the macroin, we hear the most adequate things from the germans, well, a schoolboy, maybe if he was alone, but the coalition is so motley and there is the green, which just acts like pests. uh, chancellor, kurtz, ate kneissli was forced to leave her country badly. it's bad that it's being pursued. let it be a minority in europe now, but it is such a solid minority 30-40% are ready to vote for them, it is possible in some countries for some moments. now let's look at the italian elections. how many votes for them should not be any point of view, including this one. the european mainstream does not like to be persecuted. here, she is such such her position is more comfortable and calmer predictable to communicate with
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leaders in delhi in beijing in moscow but with slombad. i would argue with her, because then when she was prime minister, there was a specific leadership there, what now, but on the whole i am ready to agree with her against the backdrop of our entire conversation today, which is rather difficult. yes, in connection with all the events that took place, and you know, the colling was threatened with physical destruction, and she bluntly said, i am leaving and i will hide my whereabouts, because it can no longer be free in europe, it should not be open publicly . yes, but here is the key phrase. here are the ex-ministerials. ah, moral high ground. this is what was most worrying. and i constantly came across this, for the last 15 years. here , work from eastern europe and a little further , it was amazing that getting into some kind of image of europe and the european union immediately turned it. here are these countries in some kind of ready-made teachers in relation to us, they
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taught us something bulgaria, the country to teach something more began to teach something in the fuck. you’re like that in general, i just don’t know directly, some kind of mentors. i mean, these are the words. here is the prime minister of estonia in that visiting europe is a privilege. what does it mean? what is sacred to a saint? what does this say, this former basement in moscow, as his privileges max here. god. everyone says, yes, you don't mind, but she said it, but it was said to her and max of the united states is all they say. but, by the way, the issue of visas has now become the issue of a split in the european union, this is again the issue of unity , we have never been like that. that now they will begin to understand each other with their shoes on this issue, which has always amazed me, that it was all presented as some kind of special separate civilization, which we must somehow cross their knees and touch and eat us to untie. this is initialization. this is our great here is the punishment. that is, they punish us.
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it's not just about. here are all these and so on, even when they took away our property. that's where the diplomatic, as they say, that's when the whole point here is the press secretary of the president of the united states to pronounce should not meet this punishment. and what are you pulling, go straight into the true reality, this is pure racism, this is a theory of superiority. by the way, what she shows up outside the filters, so it's always known more e catholics than the popes who have just been involved in this this is not our proverb. this is their own proverb and in this sense the church of the holy democracy, which is the church in quotation marks. yes, the light of religion without god , which they have there now, well, is an ideological shell, so the neophytes who were involved in this church, really now go to the barbarians, whom you and i are lower yes , they say, and they have a sense of superiority and more
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you see, they took more of us, be like us obedient obedient worshipers, maybe they will take you, but first you will have to be strongly re-educated for this. here. i think you should go straight there. well, let's move on. i'm still thinking about what we are today, i did not argue with you. yes, i’m just commenting on the words today, and the former minister of foreign affairs of austria about today’s generation, and politicians on the other side there in the west, and here are colleagues, they say that among them there is such a crown, and here is a teenager. well i am let me say that he has been behaving in a very original way lately. there he communicates with putin, who calls him every day, then disappears for 3 months, it is not clear why and suddenly reappears, but behave, like poles. yes, not me, i’m not talking about this now, but some e bells are ringing in france. so on friday, the
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macron speaks in the province of huar and says that the current situation will force the french to pay for our freedom for our values, and today one of the leaders is in the comments . uh, republicans parliament comment on the situation that has arisen in france and this speaks out, the president of france is speaking, who, for the sake of his policy towards ukraine, wants us to sacrifice our values and our freedom and what is happening, in fact. these are the statements of the macron, they precede the situation that is developing in france in when there will be nothing to pay contributions to the european union, and after all, france is one of the donors of the european union when it is reproached that in this situation it is energy closes 10 reactors, and it goes down to the brakes 10 reactors atomic facts, so
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just unlike germany yes, i'm talking about nuclear energy. she will be forced to do this in a situation where, nevertheless, the policy that he is pursuing, and for this she, as energy, has nothing to do with it. here, then look and say maxim was right. we will see how the tilt will behave in the near future, it will also behave, how the scholz behaves today, which dangles around the world with a given tail in order to in order to secure some lucrative contracts in the field of energy, then norway, then canada, where canada means gas supplies from canada, hydrogen in germany guys, this is kinel in who does not understand what they are doing, here come confirmation of what he said, the austrian former austrian minister foreign affairs, yes schultz in general, too, of course, pleased him there the girls came. he said that he experienced some long forgotten feelings. it's humor, i guess. well,
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we can just take a glimpse of it in part. here is to the mountains. here, yes. here come these violent lunatics who, uh, are walking all over europe. o schultz said that he liked the girls half- naked. and that's probably what everyone laughed at. yes, although it's a joke. just exactly, so to speak, from the period of formation of an adult organism, and these same, uh, hormonal buoys. yes, but i did n’t come up with anything better here, but you know, not only in politics. here is another one. yes philosophers write them. here is an american philosopher. that's what he's called and a writer. reasoning, and mora morality do not listen to me anyway, what is in hunter's laptop is bypassed at the moment hunter biden could have the corpses of children in his basement. and i wouldn't care if there's nothing there. first of all, this is a hitter biden, not joe biden. and whom you
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were not the extent of jubaiden's corruption? even if you could endlessly dig down this rabbit hole and understand that he receives kickbacks from hunter deals in ukraine or somewhere else, for example, in china, this is infinitely small compared to the corruption that trump is involved in as we know. you see, here we are we know that trump is involved, however, nothing is anywhere not yet say so. well, there are no facts. yes, such, but that's not the point, but he tells me in order to go blind trump, here, i don't care if there are corpses of children - this is a quote in the basement of hunterobides. by the way, this is a quote, it did not appear there by chance. yes , because, well, the way of life that e, hunter led well, i don’t know there, but there may not be much sadism left, i’m not an expert on this, but the philosopher and writer says, well, the corpses of children, it doesn’t matter , which is more important to remove. uh,
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trump, and here are the philosophers to write or who should to form morality, views, worldview and all that, that's how it is formed. well , i think i won’t reveal anything new to you if i say that it is much easier to manage a group of children in a kindergarten than a bathhouse of seasoned mothers or lumberjacks, which means that, accordingly, the united states has long since infantilized its allies for many decades. and by the way, in relation to russia. carried out the same policy of infantilization towards everyone else, so be surprised that they have achieved significant success in the european direction, after all, since the forty-fifth year they have not worked. yes , the only problem they had. this is what a large part of any society. in principle, he strives for intimacy. it is not always that society is always looking for some leader who will say, how to do it, and everyone else will do it for them, it will be good, which means that this
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policy of infantialization as a result returned to the united states, that is, they, uh, infantizing their allies. do you know how it happens? how are elementary teachers? yes, and the holy hierarch of kindergartens themselves begin to lisp. what uh wards here, the united states, working with uh kindergarten preparatory group, also began to lick and as a result did not receive a biden. there is nothing surprising here. well, yes, probably not surprising. no, i have only one question left. how to live? here they live with all this. yes, they don't live with it. this is the second hypothesis that a person also submits to childhood on the threshold of death. yes? well, if i show you one more fragment. this is lexus and vovan talking. e, with the man who played the role of gandalf, if i am not mistaken in the well-known, we are there in a huge canvas about the lord of the end and so on. here is also a sample of consciousness. look. and i also want to hold a
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gay bandera festival in kiev, you know who it is . you will lead this festival. we will open it together with you and i will kiss you at the beginning on opening ceremonies, to show that i'm close to gays too. oh, thank you very much. oh, what a contrast with moscow, where gay parades have been banned for 100 years, right? that's how you understand, right? on where are we on the bright side of history in london in paris 100 years ago gay pride parades every week, you know? thank you for noticing this. yes, thanks for noticing that. it's the same here. well, that's exactly what we're discussing, yet it's just being explained. i give you this, hello and your aunt, i will kiss you.
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later, if you, of course, want. here it is. well, it is literally the way it is. and he thinks that he is talking to zelensky and zelensky will kiss him, and he is happy to go, because no one in moscow probably kissed him. he's been talking about this for 100 years. well wait. i zelensky where without vladimir alexandrovich, he called macron. he called erdogan. he called gulka decided and said that uh, if the russian word in russia, i will arrange in donetsk. total words. sabbath over the trial of the ukrainian military, then russia should know that it is more with her, but ukraine will not talk and the whole civilized world will not talk to her. why he called these people is understandable. now more precisely, just say he said he would not have any negotiations. not just talk about negotiations now. yes, this is important, and remember one more thing, you and i, uh,
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discussed it here in this studio. i remember it was, mariupol yes , i remember this very one, uh, zelensky’s statement is already so harsh on the victims. he said that if mariupol is captured, then there will definitely be no negotiations nothing at all and well, then only everything to the bitter end. it was 3 months ago. something has changed in 3 months. no, nothing has changed. uh, it's clear that in the donbass, according to information, positional battles are going on from different sides. i'm talking about the donbass yes, but here it is. uh, this process of preparing for the trial by the tribunal, as it will be called, is now called by the mouth of zelensky in everything that is called the military-political leadership of ukraine, just some kind, and you know some non-ary type, because, president zelensky says, how can you, well, relatively speaking, the warriors of light are the winners to judge at some incomprehensible court
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. this is simple, so this can not be done differently . why am i being so sarcastic? yes , because, well, of course, that the court, if it is objective, then it will be a court, but vladimir alexandrovich takes this personally very painfully, as why he doesn’t. look, i'm talking about what you're saying, because they live in this pr space, otherwise it's a disaster for him. yes it is so arranged, when such things happen publicly, which means that they also have legal consequences, then it’s a reproach. with proven facts , a catastrophe happens for him, but not this, the main thing, you know, i heard a hypothesis here, more precisely , well, this is a hypothesis, so as not to generate anything that seems plausible to me, you know what else they are afraid of. that's why they are fucking elenovka. here i am, i kind of, uh, talked to people who saw, yes, this process. there was also
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another factor, remember, the amount drugs and everything else that e was? well, it was found. well, and where, by this month , a phase was taking place about their stay. eh, well, a certain cleansing of the body from this breakdown is what, well, i don’t know, i’m not an expert. and in general, yes, what happened to them there, in the sense of revelations and readiness to tell, and so on. i am now convinced that it was the witnesses who chose to follow directly or who stood up straight. and uh tribunal, he's afraid, not even not because of pr. it's just that he fears the most because of the facts that he sees there as proven legal facts will be present one way or another. well, or at least in order to what will sound in the accusation, but you can’t just disprove it. yes, it’s simple, and he, of course
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, is very much afraid of this in the accusation and in the testimony to accuse. pay dim's attention to the fact that zelensky just called wet, and she named these three leaders exactly why? because they just communicate with putin. well, they communicate, and well, badly. yes, here, of course this one. here revelation is the philosophers of the writer, yes, who says that everything is fine for me even if hunter has biden, there are children in the basement killed dead. yes, and here is the reviewer. uh, guardian yes, he writes there that democracy works better when there is less of it, just like that. he wrote, so, if you want, - he says - there is more freedom of speech and everything else, then now it would be necessary to fasten it everywhere there, because this is how it works, you understand. eh, here. uh, in fact, we live with this e now. yes, with these revelations and with such and with such approaches to freedom of speech and democracy and so on. as for
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here is a conversation about germany there poland and so on and relationships. well, he spoke wonderfully. eh, the minister of foreign affairs of poland, speaking of germany , he literally said that the european union does not need german leadership now. he said rather in german self-restraint. here, right in the text, he says beautifully, yes, what are you here and the most interesting thing you know is that he is the minister of foreign affairs of poland why is such self-restraint needed, where is the fight against imperialism. with imperialism what in order for the eu to be here are the members, uh, to be there there was equality, so that there was freedom for this, so germany should, uh, then engage in self-restraint, and this will be, uh, the antithesis of imperialism. that's what he said directly to his german friends, uh, and brothers in the eu. well, you understand by what is happening in general with the baltic states with
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poland. yes, in e. hmm within the european union we even see what is happening with visas. yes, there are many things, they really start from these countries. in any case, they are thrown out through them, and then this all begins european discussion of this. yes, there is a split there, but the fact is that many of these countries have already expressed their opinion that yes. we need to limit travel. uh, russian citizens on tourist visas to the eu countries is a fact is a fact. and in this sense, of course, these are absolutely military-type actions, on the one hand, and on the other hand, it is very revealing, very revealing, because i repeat this again, they are closing us off. we are not from them and it is very important to keep them. uh, this is an attitude, because well, the soviet union was closing itself in many ways yes, and uh
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in many ways, not in everything, and this is not the main reason, but one of the reasons for the state of understanding of the people's mind, let's say, yes, with which we came to perestroika. here it was due to the fact that we ourselves, e, were closing down, including the possibility of trust and the possibility of understanding and the possibility of verification and facts. now they are doing it, well, so they have all the responsibility, and they will have a result in this part with their population, with their economies, with their states. it's not inevitable. it's absolutely inevitable the inevitable we have advertising, and immediately after it we will continue. the moment has come to make the most difficult choice in pita bread or in peter major thunder the plague doctor premier. it's very tasty at 21:20 the
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continues our discussion. here are interesting snippets of erdogan's turkey. as i understand it, he has a trip and meetings with citizens. there in turkey a conversation with a turkish farmer, and politicians i wonder what was said there? here let's see. you were zelensky asks him how his position yes was concerned, he is very concerned. then you don't hold his hand enough. just keep there are many who deceive him. everyone says, we give give, but in fact they give nothing. very interesting remarque, and so in such an atmosphere,
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there are, as it were, many of those who deceive. by the way, when i said that after the meeting with zelensky, ah, well, that's how erdogan spoke in press conferences and most importantly, here is a photo talking next to zelensky here. i had the feeling that the president of turkey had drawn some conclusions for himself regarding zelensky and this whole company . and here is another argument. that he made them. well, i think that in fact, erdogan is absolutely frank about zelensky, but i just want to remind you that he is not the first who tried to take his hand and help . remember alexander grigoryevich. yes, at the very beginning, at the start, when he did not have so many let's say the mistakes that zelensky made. he tried to take him by the hand and lead him through all these reefs. well, unfortunately it didn't work. i think erdogan will not work either, because zelensky, in my opinion, has already sworn allegiance to certain people, and the tasks that are set before him. he
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simply can’t anymore, so he runs erdogan, and that’s exactly what he saw. and by the way, i think he says, very sad. and then the photo was sad. and now he says it, if my reasons, i think we are talking about western patrons. i think first of all britain, of course, and erdogan knows very well, in fact, what is the political elite of britain, what do they promise? and what do they actually do, but i wanted them to return. it seems to me that a very important topic, but it has not been fully disclosed is the topic of half a show. uh, this is a topic, it seems to me a very important topic of the tribunal, and this is zelensky's position on this issue. you see, some perceive zelensky’s statement that they say, if you hold a tribunal, then we will not we will continue no negotiations , e. it's actually about him wanting to protect himself, what
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's the uh, problem problem is, i'm just reminding 2,500 people. well-armed , having food in the water, everything that is necessary for the conduct of hostilities, of course, power. i would like them to die on e, nitrogen rose. this would be the best option for them. yes, they later told how evil russia killed our e defenders, but for all time first. uh, special operations. it was such a precedent, directly defiant, yes. because in fact 2,500 people were taken prisoner. and the situation was. i'm just a piquant situation. what was the fact that at that moment the position of azov himself, as it seems to me, was no longer controlled by the central power and he decided that they should surrender to the blanket at the very last moment in order to demonstrate to the army that he was still like something manages these processes. that is, he tried to that moment to save himself and now he does the same thing to say, huh? come on, he had this decision
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to make, he made it, and now they start asking him questions. and they tell him, wait, you said, we are surrendering under the guarantees of the united nations organization under the guarantee of the red cross under the guarantee of exchange and so on and so forth, but in fact he cannot realize all this what is zelensky afraid of we are on the eve of the start of a political season. he's defending himself with military polo for now. closing the opportunity to all kinds of protests and so on, but in ukraine there is a certain category of people for whom this ban does not apply. and these people pose a particular threat to him, who these people are people. uh, relatives of the dead soldiers, these are people, uh, relatives and relatives of the azov people who are in captivity. and believe me , it will be impossible to stop these people with all sorts of prohibitions. zelensky is most
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afraid of all. not e. he is not afraid of being defeated by putin, he is not afraid of losing to putin. he is most afraid of being overthrown, the ukrainian people. inside the country and in such a situation. in this situation, he loses all the guarantees of the west. well, it becomes unnecessary, he does not control the country, nobody needs him. you see, it’s one thing to lose in a war to putin, and another thing when you are overthrown by your own people and part of this people, in fact , is already ready for active political action. purple season and he certainly fears it. well , i don't know about readiness. in general, it is difficult for a militarized country with a nazi real regime. it's complicated. yes, they will. this is not for you the roof of the west to carry out whatever you want on the maidan in the fourteenth year, but in what i agree with you is the energy of relatives, of course, mothers. it's not just citizenship, it's a very strong energy, a very strong
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energy, holding back. yes indeed. he fears this even more, he fears that once again i speak at the tribunal, how the facts will begin to sound at a public action, yes, they are established, supported by both witness testimony and the testimony of the accused themselves. by the way, well, since the matter is public, yes, then, well, so to speak procedurally accused are there in their own right. so let's allow this. he, too, cannot in any case, because it can. in a certain detonator, this is a fact, yes, i will also comment on azov and then i will say a few other things. and you know, when you talk to mariupol residents and ask them a question. are you waiting for the tribunal of those people who mocked you at those people who mocked you in 2nd place, then absolutely the majority of those people who are now left in mariupol people who have lost their homes and from those people who live in high-rise buildings that were
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set on fire so that russian aviation would not see. yes, but we all know these, as it were, this part. here they are absolutely all waiting, of course, that azov will be, but will appear before the tribunal and suffer the punishment that he deserves. i have already said many times. i went down to the azov steel bunker and they are full of a huge amount of nazi symbols. really. i saw it with my own eyes. that is, i do not need there, as it were say that it is not so. here, that is, how i would be there. i saw it, this is the first moment i wanted to talk about. you know, and the second moment i experienced, i say, with difficulty, a terrible shock on saturday, and i was at the festival tradition. you know incredible festivals. it has been going on for many years, but this year it has gathered as many people as ever, and there were more than 20,000. and so i performed at many venues and just literally half an hour before daria and dugin's daughter alexander
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dugin left the festival, as soon as i saw them waved, and, but i was in a hurry to the main stage, i could not communicate. and now, of course, i think that it was necessary, of course, to stop. maybe i don't know what to say. here, and what i want to say, you know, i once said a phrase in may. and i think it was in may. i said that there was no one left in donetsk, but an area in which they were not safe. here today, and this is sorry which are safe. and you know here. today, and i will say a phrase that should. it seems to me, but to touch every person of every patriot, and russia, and after this is such a rubicon, uh, we crossed the rybikon with the murder of dasha, an absolutely young woman. you know, for me, she is the personification of not only a woman, but also a child, because she died. she is in front of you know your own father and just in time for the festival tradition. i talked about what it's like to bury your
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children. what is it like to try on this terrible role when you bury your own child. and you know that you will never see him again. and of course, it's all absolutely creepy, history, and on the one hand. i want to say to those people who support you dmitry yes, here you are, first of all, spiridon. i want to say that it is absolutely necessary to be careful, because the enemy does not sleep and the enemy introduces his terrorist agents, and here already this moscow region is very close to moscow, but on the other hand. you know i want. to quote, if not exactly, the words of alexander dugin are very important words. it shouldn't break us. we shouldn't have it, but somehow, but somehow, ah scare. we must we must rally, on the contrary, all this history must pay us. this is what i think is important. it should sound exactly today in this studio. it is important to hear this russia is definitely important and your story is excited and uh, heavy and the conclusion
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that you made is very important, i know here, i always m-m. i remember a quote from the movie the meeting place cannot be changed. uh, vysotsky, in the role of a zheglovy, said it. yes, zhiglovy, i said, well, i can’t kill. but to make you afraid and intimidate will not work. that is why this moment, this moment is fundamental, of course, like any terrorist act. first of all, it should he aims to frighten or someone individually or groups or larger groups. here and here it was discussed in detail today in the first part. here, i believe that they will not succeed for several reasons, very many, but the most important thing is still. well, as it were, the fundamental cultural basis of our people, and of our state, and here the experience that we have already lived in the
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fight against terrorism, losing both our comrades and losing e. people just civilians it was quite recently. we remember all this, and precisely because we remember all this, well, uh, they, of course, will not achieve their result under any circumstances. loved ones, daria dugina, and i also remember how a young, beautiful, modest girl who also went on air with us . uh, a talk show from god, we stood, and although she is modest, but with her steady patriotic a position that she has always personified and expressed. well, i hope that those competent authorities that deal with this case, they have the whole picture in detail. uh, it will show us later, so there will be no need to comment. well, we'll find out. i think additional details, the consequences of the main suspect facts, have now been published
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enough. this indicates that the basis of legal facts for filing charges and suspicions, well, very serious ones, even because it is said. e now according to but u would like to in the future, of course, such attacks were not repeated. here is to make every effort from all sides. well, i wanted to comment. here are the words of two incredible gas experts, which means one habibika second scholz. uh, excellent expert alone went to canada now to bow before the canadians. there to give them praise while they kept the turbine and did not let him return and earn money for his country. e, scholz, says that canada is the same as russia in terms of capacity for those energy resources, although in russia a quarter, and reserves of explored gas reserves, while canada has less than one percent. here and uh, so we will buy gas from canada better than a dead donkey, as ostap bender said, i am quoting a literary
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work, i don’t want to offend anyone, that’s exactly how he says that we will buy gas from you. yes, we will do more. green hydrogen through this from this gas, and how is he going to do this? clearly green, apparently, the only way is also green hydrogen - this is just processing and then capturing these emissions of co2 and back and pumping it into canada mine or how is she going to do? this is expensive technology. this is very difficult to implement. and there is still room for improvement. forgive kirill but today it's only $3,000 for 1,000 cubic meters. gazprom's forecast, uh, was four here, and i immodestly assumed that five could be at the end of the year. that's how i said it was funny. no, i don’t know, i don’t know what khabib you said, that he says that this is russian propaganda to tighten the nuts of the gas pipeline. this is just russian propaganda is generally incomprehensible with linguistic point of view, what he meant, how can the closing of the pipeline be
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propaganda, because for us it is the other way around. it ’s better for us not to sell a single cubic meter and the treasury of the ministry of finance on the maximum amount of income. our task is not to sell gas, but to earn money for our country. therefore, these words of khabib are, of course, generally strange. well, they are strange , you know, for completely different reasons. just factually, one of the injection lines into the gas transportation system of ukraine was stopped. ukraine did not interfere. russia insisted every day. i don’t know if it sends now, but for 2 months or a month and a half, russia every day sent applications for another uh, 30 million cubic meters through the ukrainian system, this is for the wing of ukraine, i don’t go much to europe, europe and the poles closed through poland. they tried to make sure nothing went there. this means that the canadians, uh, thwarted the technology of servicing nord stream alone. what questions to russia here on all these facts. well, by the way,
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nothing like that happens on south stream and south stream, a in turkish now yes, thank you. yes, i meant. the southern direction, of course, the name in the turkish stream, nothing like that happens and everything works. well, it’s true there, bulgaria alone is fine, so to speak, well, now bulgarian folk dances are dancing, because, of course, it’s fantastic when the country’s prime minister says oh, what are the germans buying there for rubles. and what could be so, and why didn’t we buy? well, we haven't been able to come back yet. uh, well, in negotiations and in purchases for rubles, so what the questions here are to russia the facts, study, the truth is, unfortunately, no one is interested in the amazing thing. of course, you know, we can’t do anything. if europe wants to commit gas suicide, none of our leadership has announced that we are going to cut off gas. no, there is not one such line, but nevertheless it directly enters europe. here we are
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now closing the gas. we'll go now. let's go, we'll die there like that. this is an old argument. this is comparable to women. that is, this is a false argument, which is repeated 1,000 times and it seems to want, as if the truth is such a plast , such a lie, which, it seems, how it has it, how we will also close russia from negotiations from zelensky. now we wanted to say no, that is, organization in such a sense that we are so weak that they introduce us. we just groan, give us more negotiations and close it again. and we can even somehow control them by negotiations. i think that this means some kind of virtual double game will not end well and relies only on the fact that we still sell everything, then we will give in. well, maybe this is also there, but i think everything is pragmatic, because this is a symbol of a strong position. she what does she mean, he also addresses his people at night on his ukrainian tv, he speaks to listeners and viewers. well, what a strong position. she also implies that russia directly runs around zelensky and asks
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him, but in negotiations, and he says, until i will, until i will, until i am, and then and if so, do it like that at all, never is the sale of the same ears of a dead donkey only already zelensky to his own population. yes, a plot from erdogan, because when i was driving here, i read, uh, a quote, but you always have to see and understand the context of the quote. uh, zelensky deception, you can draw different conclusions. to be honest, i thought. it is possible that he may mean that somewhere in the leadership of ukraine he is deceiving ukraine, but the quote was so accurate that this is a very bad statement for us. that is, they deceive him, because they do not give him more weapons, they promise him, but they do not. what a pity, that is erdogan, of course, i would you know, sometimes he didn't say what a pity, well, the context was absolutely the same, but he said with regret that he was not given more weapons. there is. i'm not saying this to call, like some
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of our guests from uh, finish. i have my own yes, yes, in general, er, the fisherman has a relationship with them and erdogan well done probably, yes, he defends the interests of turkey, but just now, when you listen to this context, how he regrets that a small weapon to ukraine, i understand, how can putin it is difficult for them to find an agreement, maxim yes, they heard they heard. eh, exit. there is always, first, there is always a way out. yes, no queue. wait, i approve. this one, the second, it is certainly difficult for putin to deal with him, because the world of subject countries will certainly be a difficult world. it will have a different complexity than the globalist world with hegemony. it's absolutely perfect. now the third. here, uh, in the form of everyone hears. well, how? as you say, i looked, listened and was inspired, but for me it is quite obviously a different interpretation. he regrets that he keeps zelensky like a bobby on a
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leash, promising. i give him weapons and victory. and no one will give him any victory. but as? cube it they use this leash, and erdogan believes that he cannot overcome it. what did he start with. i can't just hold hands. something more needs to be done here. but what i don't know. well, i don't know, because it was all about the fact that this is not a subject. this is what erdogan established, that this is something on a leash or on a string that is being deceived and used due to deception, because what is the second goal? well, by the way, we discussed it many times there, and you didn't argue with that. the west is working with weapons as a means of continuing fire and ukraine, extending it in order to inflict maximum damage on us. well, the second one is interesting. i might, uh, after the commercial, show another story about guns. i ask you with respect to
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erdogan unconditionally. erdogan is one of the biggest leaders of our decade. in the decade that is passing by, that leader who knows how to use his foreign policy activities, despite the failures in domestic political activities in the country, to successfully hold elections, which are great to use next year. but the fact that there deceive does not deceive. this is a kind of pr on the part of erdogan, in my opinion, when he speaks with a peasant and a peasant, he tries to explain who is deceiving him and deceiving him there. he works for the future elections in his country. i don't agree with you here, but we all have our own opinion here, because i don't think so. here is a pr statement. this statement to erdogan does not personally give any points. this is the thought of a real public came to talk to the subject. there is no one to talk to, that this is an assessment, this is an assessment and very serious evaluation advertising. watch today
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spoken to 300 micultural and political leaders, all of them were conservatives. no, they weren't. i think he convinced them that he is stronghold of christendom against a generation. the west is the same third world that the russian philosopher dugin and putin have been talking about for the past 15 years. even if he doesn't believe it himself, he made people believe it. ah here is such assessment psychologist yes humanities. he sees it that way. this is about the question of visas, and why they are closed, because i will show one more video, and then we will briefly discuss this pole who came to us and why we do not need to close. look , our polish elite says that there is nothing in russia no, that russia lives under sanctions, as if
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there are empty shelves in stores. this is such nonsense, and i know a place where, despite the sanctions, in contrast to poland, attention in stores. there is even a couple of kilograms of sugar, i can send it to you. here i can send in packages to my own beam, this is how russia lives boys. these stories will be worth a lot. yes, andrew, this is a very familiar situation. here is their own experience in their understanding. this eastern european russia should live worse, let it be a little worse. here, just a little. well, definitely worse. yes, it didn't make sense. to fall apart in the soviet union is, that is, it
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is such, you know, domestic such a household such a kind of nationalist. here comes the fantastic conservatism. it is absolutely correctly said that russia is not just an enemy. she is an ideological enemy, this is much more dangerous and the situation is repeated with the soviet union on the contrary, who, damn it, is not behind the garage. i am now and from us behind the garage the appearance of our tourists with money in europe is now a disaster. what was this whole operation for? yes please. eh, i, uh, wanted one more time emphasize that in europe is approaching here begins, as it were, a new period. that is, everyone is returning from pascu and the realization will come that something in the danish kingdom needs to be corrected. here is an example of information. yes, the dollar-dollar and the euro have not just become equal, but the euro is becoming less than the dollar. this is this this signal is a signal that the economy is not only on our stock exchange. yes, but also the world quotes of the euro asked against the dollar. naturally, the economy. it's not even
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politics and some come back again for the crown trying to justify their speeches the situation that is happening in the russian economy again, russia is to blame. right here. the same claims that are presented to korban. tomorrow he has to answer claims on uh, how to say, but a threat that if he does not stop doing what he is doing right now, they will cut him off. uh, funding from the resources of the euro-, uh, the european commission, this is how it is, and if they don’t take it, then gas or something else, that’s friends, and now this awareness does not come today. i understand that maybe i spoke a little harshly. at regarding the german chancellor, but they went to look for what they lack in other places instead of allowing nord stream 2 a long time ago. who banned the nord stream defeat and banned a month by the americans. not us, you know what's interesting. there was such an anecdote in my soviet childhood about a drunk who crawls
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around a street lamp and, therefore, is looking for something there, and i ask him. what are you crawling around here? uh, i'm looking for a watch, and you lost it here. no, i lost them in the park. why are you crawling here? and here it's just lighter and more likely to be found. here, well, so he went. where to canada for gas, because there is simply lighter lost, gas. i am not there and he is not there where i arrived, but there, as it were, they are accepted with understanding. yes, maxim is a story about a pole, very good, even better comments. dmitry is the case when i 100% agree sometimes in the 90s. yes, but here, when dmitry said that it was not necessary to close, by no means. there is no need to close, it is necessary to let such poles people with critical thinking, but simply when the forbidden the fruit is always sweet, when russia is a forbidden word
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fruit, people at the beginning with critical thinking, then just journalists who are used to reporting from both sides will want to go all. we must let everyone give visas worse than they write about us, sitting there and not communicating with us. without going shopping, without going shopping, maybe with the russian army on the other side of the front line, highlighting the conflict on our side, and not on the ukrainian side. that's worse than what they write. now they won't write. we would not be afraid to close here, in no case, must be let in. see me at the level of principle. yes , then everything needs to be differentiated to work, but already a special military lighting. these are their own laws. yes, and here the military must. well, very strict regulation, as the military should do it, uh, and so on. and for me the principle is important. yes, i disagreed with you on the level of principle in this part. i can say, that's because andrey said a very important thing, they are used to thinking
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that in russia it is always much worse than it is in their country, but we live without water and without toilets in the cold, we eat devils, that here is seabiscuit constantly or hedgehogs somehow in the fifteenth year we ate no one forgot how we would go in the fifteenth year. yes, that 's it, that's all. and when people here, having all this there in that propaganda, come here. and what happened to the poles, he counted the polish newspapers, watched polish television about how we are dying here literally without anything came and looked , and this dissonance, as they say, blew his brain. the effect is very important, because let there be their propaganda about everything, how bad it is here and there will be an opportunity to come and live in the bad. well , at least twice a day you can take a three-scale shower for another three times a day. so i spoke with a french journalist, and she says, the truth is, that we do not have a frenzy
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against ukrainians, what am i saying? what are you talking about, we have cars with ukrainian license plates that do n’t exist, he says it’s necessary all the same for me to come and write a report, because we have a completely different idea. well, against this background, a very curious statement. nikolai patrushev with colleagues. now met and because of the asian-tiahiatskogo a lot of curiosity. and we didn't have time. unfortunately, yes what he said is now america the united states of america will default soon. but for me, as for us, this is very interesting, because we evaluate according to charts and tables. we have already seen the recession, even discussed it. but, apparently, he has some other channels. eh, there is still information that gives him the opportunity to speak out on the one hand in this way. this, of course, to e's asian colleagues. yes, this is a call. switch to trading in e, there rubles and let's say in rupee. just recently, literally just yesterday, it became known that we already have a whole database ready for us, an analogue of swift with indians, and in fact . only a political decision prevents us from moving on. well, most likely we will move on, well, it doesn’t bother you, it’s just not accepted yet. yes, but, most likely, yesterday it was reported that everything was already prepared at
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the time to make a decision. and most likely, it is also such a message for the population that there is no need to save money for a rainy day. there are the same dollars or euros, what could be this much less reliable than in our rubles, because such a situation can suddenly happen when the united states defaults, as we once did in august. uh, ninety-eight. yes, but the consequences of this default will not be the same, as if the snowball is much larger. here, well, yes, patrushev 33 million, probably there, as if he were still the secretary of the security council yes, well, there are objective data that he voiced, uh, 33 million public debt. japan has 10 more. japan has 10 more and, sorry, issuing 5.9 trillion per choice. well, this, well, under the type, well, think for yourself, well, you are doing. yes, you know, it is always very important for me to say what i see with my own eyes. and so i was in the arkhangelsk region last week. and right there i was telling those people
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who received me about how the thesis is being dispersed on the territory of ukraine that there is nothing on the territory of russia, no, there are microwave gas stations on asphalt, there are televisions and so on and so on, when i just i believe that i should like to say this now in order to here to support all the archangels-gardeners of the inhabitants of the region. i came to arkhangelsk. i could not even imagine how amazing this region is, how well-groomed it is, and the size of the region - this is france, about a million people live. it's just incredible. i drove from arkhangelsk to malinovka on an amazing track. i saw mowers that are mowing. the incredibly well-groomed region is everything, of course, it made an indelible impression on me, it was in this that i shared it with them, but the strongest impression on me was made by a person who came up to me from e, found out that i was from donetsk from donbass, he felt the dialect, and he told me, you know, i am 56 years old. i went to the military registration and enlistment office three times,
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they don't take me. i'm healthy, but they don't take me because of my age. i really want to go where our people are and support our soldiers. it made a huge impression on me briefly from this story, which showed us the fields. it became clear to me that there is a shortage of sugar in poland. don't just wait. i want to do. can i talk about sugar. yes, i want to tell you. i want to upset the poles sugar, there won't be, and there won't be. why because in ukraine they decided this year not to open 10 sugar factories for obvious reasons? there are no expensive energy sources, no logistics, there are military operations for storing sugar, and so on. and by the way, farmers refuse to sow sugar glass, because well, in fact , apparently, it is unprofitable, therefore, when we are told that ukraine is like a breadbasket, and on the one hand, a health resort too. yes. here it provides
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the whole world with grain food. they decided corn is exported, sunflower oil is exported, but do not expect sugar, there will be no sugar, therefore, do it yourself. and if they continue the same policy , they say in relation to russia, including, well, i think they will not have a sweet life in the near future, and i think that a sweet warm one. well, i say it again, we talked about this in this studio the very first days. march what 's the difference. well, what is called, feel the difference will pass, uh, exactly according to this criterion. and by the way, it's still really up to here the pole arrived, saw the store. yes, but someone will come and you will understand that, well, no one stands with a counter and does not count. how many times a day e you went to the shower does not count at all. well, you can try to wash yourself here in moscow or any other city in russia for the rest of your life. and then, well, leave like this, so to speak, worn out and shiny. eh, to the holes - it's all very important. and
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in general, this is important from the point of view that a situation will arise when it is better in russia than in europe for 15 years, we could not believe it, but she is being served as soon as possible today. watch the program right now and see you tomorrow. the killer of darya dugin was set to act as a terrorist attack, the ukrainian special services were preparing to hit the antonov bridge in kherson again. do not let russians into europe has already split the european union about this news in the studio right now evgeny rozhkov hello
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