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russia 1 and in the studio dmitry kulikov american president joe biden was very aggressive in an interview with cbs. he announced threats to china if he would support russia in the ukrainian conflict, he also said that the us military would support taiwan by force in a possible conflict between taiwan and china, said that he would support ukraine in the confrontation with russia until its victory, he sees the victory of ukraine in a complete exit russian troops from ukrainian territory and russian recognition of ukrainian sovereignty. in general , the president is biden. much more inspired as usual, china protested the words of the jubaid in taiwan and indicated that beijing reserves the right to take all necessary measures. an official visit is taking place in china today. i am the security council of the russian federation, nikolai

patrushev, negotiations were held with a member of the politbk. yan dzichi. uh, the parties agreed to intensify the exchange of information about attempts to undermine the constitutional regimes of both countries, but this is what was in official communications, it is clear that a much wider circle of most was discussed . different problems and issues ukraine, which is under the full control of the united states, committed today another monstrous terrorist act and a war crime fired nato shells at a store and a bus stop on the baku commissars square in donetsk, according to preliminary data, 13 of them were killed, among them two children and many wounded , we mourn and express condolences to family and friends and loved ones. the dead, well, here are the shots that you can’t

calmly look at, it’s clear that here we have already picked it up so that it just doesn’t plunge into shock, but it’s really such a difficult event for everyone in russia and, of course, for the danes , the event, and from which my cheekbones personally cramp, i’ll honestly tell you. here, uh, hit in a targeted way on a completely uh civilian object. there's definitely not, in general no one was beaten by the military. just a bunch of people who were at the bus stop at the store next to the bank and, uh, the next victims. that 's what ukraine is doing for me. by the way, on 155 caliber. it is not yet clear that it was haimar or french caesars. here but after all, the points on more precisely, that's for sure, not

khaimar knows 155. e caliber is three axes. i'm sorry, i'm just a little uh, i'm making a reservation, because it's very heavy. uh, a difficult event, a difficult situation. here, but after all, all coordinates for guidance and all targets are determined by the americans. they have repeatedly spoken about this, this is on the one hand, and on the other hand. that's so inhuman. uh, such inhuman acts that the armed forces of ukraine are carrying out is it possible that in a world in which the americans give u give ukraine this roof of theirs and promise them impunity, because the american giving ukraine a promise of impunity in ukraine, from my point of view, lies at the basis of this terrorism and all the other terrorism that ukraine uses. a very

terrible event. as a human being, this is generally hard to perceive. i was not in donetsk now, but i was in a similar place. when mines exploded near the stop in luhansk. this is horror. it's just horror, because they shot absolutely consciously; there was definitely some kind of quadrocopter hanging there, which pointed at this the target that transmitted the signal that the americans saw also indicates that they are transmitting all the data on where to shoot in online format, so there can be no doubt that this is a deliberate shot. this was deliberately dealt a blow to peaceful people who just went out in the morning to stop or went to the store. but it flew there, flew there, and, you know, a more terrible sight, it’s probably hard to imagine when people just smeared on the asphalt on the closer houses fence. and there definitely was not a single person, neither in camouflage, nor with weapons. everything else, that is, you know, such an attempt,

probably, to see the fear of intimidate sit panic. i don’t know what and what feelings the person who pulled the trigger should experience, just as i don’t know how to correctly call the mechanism in guns. that is, as who sent a projectile there. and i think that for this you need to have, but i just don’t know some terrible iron nerves in order to understand what you are sending to the next world at the same time, the children of women of the elderly, who simply still remained, because everyone else, in general, either works either on the front line, that is, they shell the city in which there are relatively few people now, but these are people who really survived all these fears, and now they are under attack from this cannon, and you know, just the other day i leafed through a lot of e foreign publications, which there very excitedly talked about raisins and talked about the atrocities of the russian army. and what is? that's no details, they were not interested there, they were interested. it's just horror oh horror, but for some reason

something tells me that tomorrow there will be no new york times, or how garde does it there will be no materials shouting that these people were killed why did a inflict such a cruel blow simply. well, you know, it's not easy to breathe a blow to the heart in the heart, when you - just this is a mockery of people and you just know such an attitude that these are not people. it just happened once humanization is well, some such, well, some phantoms, which, in fact, to us, i say , ukrainians, but have nothing to do with them, so you can literally do anything with them. but this is just to the fact that we are discussing here all the time, but about the nazi nature from the terrorist nature that they do not consider us to be people, we are russians from donetsk. uh, as such, it's just here to this, to make it clear, yes, what, uh, well, ukraine in this sense is absolutely not independent, but is an ideal performer of

this activity. that's because here, uh, probably showed already seen, maybe the audience these photos, like uh hmm boss. tra e strategic communications in latvia yes, he came out on the podium at the conference. uh, socks. yes , here he is sitting in these and there uh, on these socks it is written trampling on the towel, so that we don’t have any illusion about this, you just need to forget to throw this illusion away. this is the general attitude of the authorities of the western world of nato members, primarily nato commanders and chiefs such as this one, together with the ruling regime and the armed forces of ukraine, they form one whole, which this whole can, can e go with such slogans to official conferences. so russia is there, then he bleated something that he did not

mean ethnic origin. well, i'm russian there. yes, you are ukrainians, for example. well, he had no ethnicity. it makes sense, but he will trample on both you as a ukrainian, and me as a russian, because we both fall under the concept, rusnya really it doesn’t matter in our russian world, ethnic origin, but everyone who stands for russia for the russian language for russian culture for russian history, they are going to trample like a stream. yes, you know, yesterday was probably one of the happiest days in my life, because yesterday, uh, my relative grandmother masha on bakumova street, she came under fire, and her apartment was destroyed. she was lying at that moment on the couch, but it turned out not to be a scratch on her. she herself got out, so the entrance. and, of course, it was absolutely some kind of happy miracle. we thought about how

her guardian angel worked, and i thought for what he worked for her to see once again. the world saw the victory, and today what happened on the baku commissars square, 13 people died there, two children died in the sokol market, three more dead, you know, uh, these shots, they circled the internet, when it stretches from a person, such a long one. well, there is a groove in the asphalt and it stretches huge. here we can not bloody trail. and many have called this trace, that this is the very red line, probably really for me personally. this is what the red line looks like and personally for me. when i was driving here to the studio, well, because i'm a poet. i understand a lot through rhyme, so i wrote two lines, then i will add, perhaps here you are or i want to read to you. look at ukraine as a

person, half of the person remains. you saw these shots of how people were torn into two parts. and this is for me. it’s me, i just ca n’t put into words what i feel, but i will say what the people of donetsk are saying now, indeed rodion is right. there are a lot of people left in the city, because the men are at the front. and a lot of people left just leave because little. yes , please excuse me. i am very worried on march 14, one first point and then a shelling, when makiivka was shelled, when the children died, and when veronika badina died, then it was the fourth of august, when kors was buried, when people were shot , these days they are all black dates for donbass, but they are also the days after which people decide to save themselves, a really large number of people leave and the fact that 13 people died at the bus stop today. and

this is, if it had been a month ago, much more would have died, because the city, but practically you can already see, footage, for example. the same lenin square well, there are almost no people, people are moving in dashes to the buildings, trying to somehow keep closer, because it's dangerous and here, of course, it's just that you say events events words. i am so indignant inside about this word. this is not an event. it's just another tragedy. and you know i guess i'll take it boldly now you know i'll tell everyone probably donetsk. and maybe some unpleasant thing, i will say. well, you know, it seems to me that right now our soldiers are facing a russian soldier. that's the faster the operation will go. this is my opinion. and here are my compatriots, the less there will be such terrible ones. yes, the fewer will be such a number of victims, because every day he brings us. death wounded and uh, that's every day that's this

delay. i would really like to see how the pace was accelerated. eh, this is me, i know what the supreme commander is saying, but to me, it seems to me that the faster we move, the fewer such situations will be, the fewer such tragedies will be in donetsk, because it is impossible to talk about them, you understand, words cannot convey. and if you remember, i was standing in the studio right there, i remember this place, i stood on march 14 and said, i even shouted then that now i really want to take a gun and go to defend my city myself. this is what i had. here is some kind of desire, absolutely such an aggressive desire. right now after what happened square of the baku commissars, another relative of mine left there in 10 minutes and crouched down the streets there. right now, well, i have a huge impotence inside now. huge impotence, i just hope for a russian soldier. i pray for the

russian soldier all. we hope and can in this situation hope and believe only in our army and in our soldiers, in our officers and all who are fighting now, that's how in the donetsk and luhansk regiments, both volunteers and , soldiers , full-time officers of our russian army. this our only faith and hope is greater. uh, so to speak, looking at what is happening in the world at what the enemies say. uh, we have more hope e there is nothing for any hmm for any civilized world that simply does not exist, which friend that half that was called civilized has become absolutely nazi, by the way, here are your uh, they said, uh, but about that ukraine hmm hides does not recognize. no, she is no longer hiding and

recognizes everything under the american roof. here, look at the underdog. here is everything that happens in berdyansk in melitopol in kherson yes, this is all absolutely legal military purposes. there are certainly no terrorist attacks , no conditionally speaking about some kind of criminal violations. yes, if there is a protest movement working out, well, keep in mind the sabotage groups, as we see in berdyansk, or this is not a direct strike, uh, corresponding to artillery, as we see in kherson, all this is working out specific military military targets for there once again publicly demonstrate ukraine's desire to liberate their territories and the importance of leaving these territories on time collaborators and representatives of the russian occupation administration. that's why he considers all this to be legitimate purposes, but i accordingly think that e needs to level relations. we need to change our list of legitimate

targets. here, looking at everything. i am absolutely convinced of this. yes, i condole with you with this word. i wanted to start my speech today, because i condole with everyone, and to the families of close relatives of the dead and, of course, as an orthodox person. i want to speak out, so that the kingdom of heaven is those who died were murdered innocent, most likely, because they are civilians, judging by those with him there. and you understand, dmitry, when such things happen, uh, i personally see my tragedy, this is a tragedy for me, because it’s a personal tragedy, because uh, and biden’s statement. today you started the transmission. yes, his interview and podlyak's statement. and even this event that happened to you, you will continue. excuse me, please, but since you said, i have to show the baidan, because for me this shelling 13 killed and what he said biden. e in the interview is directly related. here it is directly

connected logically absolutely here and so it's not a wreck, look. ukraine, thanks to the significant assistance that we, our allies, provide to it, and also thanks to the incredible courage of the ukrainian people, will not lose the war. they are successful in certain areas. the victory of the war in ukraine means the complete exclusion of russia from ukraine and the recognition of its sovereignty. they defeat russia russia turned out to be not as competent and capable as many thought. here you go, he is happy now, he believes that russia turned out to be not what they thought. here, but look how interesting. that's where the 13 people who died today, of them two children. uh, they 're on biden's conscience. this is the incredible

courage and determination of ukraine to kill civilians and children. uh, biden instilled he gave them these 155 mm guns, but in order to raise their courage and determination so that they kill our children and our civilians. so, it all works very tightly together. i wanted to show this on purpose, because you mentioned you. it would seem that the past has added to the case . well, she could let us down with the sky, at least she wanted to, there were a lot of rumors, there were a lot of them as evidence of a certain draft peace agreement. it would seem, but the leaders spoke out. and so, when the leader of the us leader put an end to this statement. well, there is nothing more to talk about, and ukraine must win ukraine must win russia, how will it win? i don't know which way she will run. i don't know, i'm not even sure that this will happen moreover, biden says, and you understand all american respect. personally. he

says that the whole slaughterhouse should be on the territory. ukraine cannot. it is impossible to go further to the left to the right, that is, relatively speaking, biden. he says that this phrase is to the last ukrainian. she is no longer just a symbol. it becomes it. she is literally this terrible for me and now misha is in a row. and you know what since childhood. hmm my colleagues, my former fellow citizens. now what are their atrocities, what is he a beast in? he is says, that's what even this is not a biden, a biden, of course, and this person says that to kill a ukrainian, the same as me, the same as him, who lives in zaporozhye or the region , this is a legitimate goal, this is now a legitimate goal for zelensky's authorities kill their own citizens. moreover, he has already determined that either collaborators or russians live in those territories. that is, there

are no normal people there. yes, that is, this is this, you understand this this is madness when a person publicly says that we are engaged in terror and will be do and we will do. it was already determined in advance, without trial, without investigation, that these are all people, these are not people, this is a catastrophe, a catastrophe in moral terms, when at this level, at the level of the political level of the ukrainian government. they say such things, they say them, and they do and will do the worst. today it was rightly said that biden's unexpectedly aggressive speech is very aggressive, but i remind you, just some of this background, yes, the situation is biden's first interview in 200 days. that he has not given any interview to journalists for more than 200 days. that's why here it was necessary to collect one big interview in some kind. yes, that's cbs 60 minutes for all the points. here is the current policy of the baiden administration, there and

on domestic policy. well, in appearance, of course, yes, it is sharp. uh, the aggressive rhetoric against china on taiwan, which is true, then the white house will most likely have to roll back again and says that we have not rolled back anything there. just me, to be honest, i'm sorry that i interrupt you to be honest, i do not understand. uh, the white house said so. no, we are committed to, uh, one china policy. and the supreme commander has his own opinion, a wonderful position is what fits. how do they say that they are in e tactics, strategic uncertainty, that is, so we do not make it clear to china what we will do, that is, on the one hand, it seems, as we recognize the policy of one china but on the other hand we pump taiwan with weapons and so on. here. and of course, the situation in ukraine yes, it is clear that when biden he says that the ukrainians are winning, he means specific ones like this with this very kharkov counteroffensive. and it is clear that he is trying to tie all this to a new tranche of 13.7 billion dollars, which are now being agreed in washington and most likely will be agreed upon, and the ukrainians will receive more missile systems, they will receive more howitzers, they will continue to kill

their own fellow citizens with impunity. ah, what can i say? well biden. i outlined my strategy for the next six months. she doesn't change perhaps the congress will change after the elections. i honestly don't count on it, but perhaps we shouldn't count on it for sure. that's even be that as it may, but here's my position is that you should not count on it. by the way, here are the fragments that relate to china and taiwan. i will also show, because it's all in one e in one bundle is yes, because for them. and china - this is a bunch of enemies, look. here's what the president of china needs to know about your commitment to taiwan. we stick to having signed a long time ago that there is a policy of one china from taiwan decides on its own independence we do not encourage their independence. we are not their decision, but be the american troops to defend

the island. yes, if an unprecedented attack actually occurs, after the interview, the white house spokesman told us that the us policy has not changed, they will not say whether they will defend taiwan , but the commander has his own opinion. that's it. this the look of the giver is commonly called an order. yes , therefore, no matter how they are on duty, but in fact this position of the united states this is the first, second, as i once said in this studio, the main thing for the americans is the issue of world leadership. they cannot live without it. their whole system is built on their world leadership, without this it will not work. no dollars, no weapons, nothing. yes and that's what connects them. china and russia, this couple can, question, completely cancel their world leadership, and therefore these two countries should not to exist in the form in which they exist , everything must be done for this, and therefore i absolutely

agree that after the elections, the congress even after the presidential elections. in the following nothing will change their position to destroy by any means. here are the two sides of the best economic fail . let's look differently at another question, that with this approach, they destroy themselves very much. i'm not talking about the economic side, because half of what is american. thai made god bless him okay, new pants will be sewn, but they are their civilization , this one, which they are so proud of. they have already actually canceled it is impossible to play e, according to different rules on two adjacent boards. you can't speak in your own country. here we are a perfectly democratic country, but there it is not possible to kill children, vietnam has already shown that it is not possible. now the degradation of this whole beautiful uh hmm construction about the great beautiful america will begin, which showed everyone the path to happiness, it has already begun. the actual movement of blacks is an example there, and mr. biden, her

it also speeds up this process, so a lot of new and hardly pleasant things await us . it seems to me that some kind of erosion has already begun among the americans for a long time. uh, in my opinion. this is it. uh, sharp pretty interview that biden gave. and? well, he must understand, they are trolling him so much now, they are trying to expose him to infirmity. especially does it. it is clear to the republicans of their media that he needs to be confident in himself. you look it's completely different. well, from the shots that i see, he is confident in himself. he says tough things, most likely to a lot of americans. it should be, uh, should like it. he look. they say about him that he is a weakling, look at him. with china, he is at war with russia , he is ready to fight to the last. here he already has

the results. uh, in ukraine, ukraine is already winning, there and so on. i think it has something to do with stiffness. he just needs to show and you look at all this pr, which was done there, mainly in the fight against internal enemies and so on. and then there was the addition of international. it seems to me that on this they actually pump up his e rating now. they also increased it. it is quite obvious there, in my opinion, by seven points, or what? yes, quite in a short time, therefore, well, this also says a lot and you understand about the americans, who, uh, who need such a strong president, they don’t care, well, by and large, it still flows, there blood is being killed by children. well let's not kill children ukrainians are killing ukrainians russians are being killed or chinese are being killed in taiwan or mainland china i don't care. well, true to them. the main thing here is that everything is fine. if this president makes it so that they will live well and will still kill people somewhere or not. and in general, i don’t

believe in it that they are there. oh, you know, somehow it’s not democratic there, but we have democratic ones and this is somehow. it somehow resonates badly. don't give a damn about him. well , the truth is all uh, my my experience all speaks of this, we will accept now for advertising right after it let's continue. there is one thing that is very annoying. uh, many russians began to defend russians america in chocolate - this is the greatest scam of three billion american dollars that will remain in america and which will form the hardest burden on ukraine, drive it not just into a debt hole to try debt. no, comes to the question. and why did this happen, do they defend whether russia is higher or not, whether they save the russian world without a corral tv today at 23:00 on the channel russia

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came to the funeral of the english queen. well, as before, i couldn’t even write condolences in the book. here, uh, the cheat sheet was required for condolences, you know? well, that's also a lot. uh, we're talking. yes, that is. eh, here the cheat sheet lies and it is necessary to rewrite by hand. this is a rather difficult process, as it turned out, rewriting the cheat sheet. here. well, in general, of course, there are funerals and funerals there, but looking at that on their faces there, yes, the photos appear i won’t even show how she is, well, there is a memorable reception laughing biden right there. yes, and they themselves are not sad there. but this is a very interesting photo, but they asked to come for a limited time. biden didn’t care about the norm there. here is artysh, here he is, and here is the leaders on the bus on the bus african states, they

go to the same event to the issue of the equality of countries and the absence of racism. here is an american cortege. but these are the heads of african states of the former british french and other colonies. so something has changed. they are fighting racism with bm they are fighting. yes, it might be right. that's where we would start with this would begin. but i am doing this in order to understand the essence. yes, this is this civilization, about which dmitry spoke there, yes , this is civilization, and this is its essence. for one event of the head of state, all countries in our country according to the un that the slave enjoys equal rights, however, this is written in the charter. america is fighting for the charter. well, this is just a remark. and i will continue the previous topic, because i consider it important. and here is biden's statement. it is not accidental. it is clear that it works there for the election campaign. yes, they're all working for her now,

but that's not the point, because it's a pretty big choir. here is singing about the same thing. eh, what a canoe? here is a dutchman, he is, uh, a nato officer serving staff clerk. look how he talks about the prospects. yes, here in ukraine to the last ukrainian. and there is the main goal that he sets. why is it even wider. this is even wider than biden put look. we are encouraged by the actions of the ukrainian army and its population and population they interrupt and outplay their enemy again and again nato countries will support the ukrainian army for so long when winter is near, but our support will remain unshakable. there is not the slightest doubt that this is a cozlik more than ukraine, the entire rules-based world order was under attack. nato has a

sacred mission to protect the 1 billion people living on the land of the alliance to always plan and prepare for the future to expect the unexpected. it turns out that in ukraine, the alliance protects 1 billion people living on earth, and this is the main task that it solves. e nato, by the way, there is no word task to protect anyone in ukraine, and mind you. that 's 1 billion. ukrainians are not included so young, a billion ukrainians. this is so it is the golden billion. it is the ukrainians who must understand that they must sacrifice their lives with their cities, pour blood over the earth in order to protect the interests of this one billion. yes, that is, how much population we have there now eight and a half eight. yes, that is, well, at least seven billion. it 's this i don't know what it's a consumable. these are genes. and some, well, culling. yes, that is, it

is not necessary. yes, because there is 1 billion for which everyone else should work. and that's what is very important to say, in this speech, but it's important person to declare the united states means he says that a world based on the right native nato officer is a world based on the rules not on the un charter not on international law not on humanitarian law, but on the rules to feel the difference. realize that there are rules, that is, according to international empty space, he is all states all peoples, they are equal, they are equal in their own, well, someone is more equal, that is, there is a charter, and there are rules, and according to the rules there is a hegemot and this hegemon needs to give way this gig. this hegemon will find out. so whether he likes it or not i like it if someone strengthens, if a competitor appears, he needs to be helped to zero, because he threatens this billion, that is, it doesn’t matter. in what sphere in cultural in sports economic military in any in any sphere this

competitor should be, but almost destroyed, reduced to zero, that is, the americans do not look at themselves now. do not look at this unfortunate grandfather. well, with trembling hands and everything else, the political gelnut of the united states has not changed at all because of this, the americans see themselves as the main ones on this earth. they have the right to extend the monroe doctrine, which previously only extended to the western hemisphere. now it is spreading to the whole world in this pacific basin, now they are spreading to everything yes, that is, any event in the world that interests americans. nato is interested in everything that happens in ukraine in ukraine, how much, that is, we planned to put a million there. yes, why haven't you completed the plan yet? you have to put a million to shed blood. there you must destroy. no, you must destroy lugansk you have to deal with russia there you have to provoke everyone else americans determine this and we see the americans have risen by two dollars, gasoline has risen the americans are in shock, biden's rating has fallen and so on restored

restored the price of gasoline. the americans have rosbiden, the growth of the rating, the biden has returned again, that is, the americans a priori in the united states of america, they feel like a hegemon. in this world, and they are ready to explain, they take it for granted to explain to all of you how to live and how live by their rules in their interests. that's why i say that this is a certain company, because , uh, yovanovitch, the ex-masol, uh, in ukraine, the american also made a fiery speech, that you need to supply everything in general, and fill up ukraine in general, this is the whole. this is the whole composition. and uh, biden's announced target prices. here they are now going to line up like a rhinoceros or a pig, like the german knights on lake peipus, but they will definitely line up. well, let me remind you that literally now a national us defense strategy for 23 years. uh, well, this is a strategy, in fact, here is a democratic administration that is in power and there, in

black and white, in general, it will be written. well, we roughly understand what will already be said there, but that our strategic adversary is china the tactical adversary is russia but what is very important we cannot win in china victory in russia therefore, we need to fight on two fronts to fight first with russia, which the us views as an enemy. well, a little lower level than china because the economy is smaller and so on. so, and then, when we defeat russia , well, as they think, yes, then we will be able to use the same tools to defeat china , this is a very important strategy, because, probably, for the first time, this is officially spoken about at the national level . us defense strategy because, well, this is literally a war on two fronts. well, we know the fate of many empires that tried to fight on two fronts, but the americans believe that this will not be their fate wait, and it is very different, of course, for example, from what the republicans said literally 3-4 years ago. we remember how popular the kissinger strategy was in their time, that is, you need to work on the contradiction between russia and china. perhaps even temporarily make peace with one of them in order to defeat the second

enemy. well, here we are no longer talking about such a speech, we are talking about the fact that we need to hang on in the forehead to fight here and there, but then how will it turn out further according to the situation, and when will the strategy published, i think that the next, well, a month, that is, before the elections, most likely, what you are telling is a leak about, well, a summary of this strategy, which is already clear. that is, there it will be just on the third page. and we already know there roughly the basic theses, which will be officially used next year by the current administration. yes, it is very important what you said, because here are the changes. and by the way, we should not be confused. uh, these two concepts, tactically, the enemy, strategic adversary, tactically means only one thing, that he must be eliminated or eliminated in the first place. this is what it means, right? that is, tactically, it means close in time. right now, directly, yes, and then we'll deal with the second one. here they are counting. i understand what they did. conclusion what to drive? a direct wedge between us will not succeed, but it

will be possible, in spite of everything, to try to deal with us from china one by one. yes, i would call this strategy in turn. by the way, i underestimated all their strategies, because well, they tend to follow them. this is a feature of the american mentality, political. well, if it has already been written, yes, then it is necessary then to cut it right like that without any of these same ones. uh, offshoots of some curious swiss colonel, uh, retired swiss intelligence already. well, very frank mr. bokeh. understandable god forgive us what we know. now it is that the conflict, as i said, was conceived, if not planned long before the age of 22. drunk, in my opinion, uh house-2 arrest adviser to zelensky who in march of the nineteenth year explained ukraine should

go to war with russia and that russia should be defeated in order for ukraine to get its ticket to join nato what the arrestovich said, and he said it clarifies that an open armed conflict will take place between 21 for 22 years. you said we provoke the russians the russians will attack you with so many sanctions that in a few days russia will collapse and we will defeat russia there will be no need to win this way the idea was the literal destruction of russia through sanctions. yes,

yes, the dick left javier in russia that is why in the early days of the russian offensive there were so many sanctions that were imposed against russia and this reason, which, by the way, is regrettable, because in fact, as you know, sanctions were not applied to russia the expected effect. the purpose of this war was not the defeat of ukraine. in fact, i’m not saying that even today there is no ukrainian victory, but the defeat of russia is what we are heading towards, we are striving to bring russia to its knees. so using the annexed states this war in ukraine in order to eventually overthrow the russian government asks a journalist, the united states of the seventh and eighth years are pursuing the idea of ​​overthrowing the government in russia overthrowing. putin so the fourteenth year

was already an occasion to take a decisive step in the twenty-second year the goal is to overthrow the government and this is the goal of the sanctions the west continues to bend its line, because they think that the deterioration of the population will lead to increased discontent . here he will be able to land to assure the salon, therefore, sanctions such as visa restrictions for russians to enter europe are now used, this type of sanctions does not have an economic impact, but only affects the citizens of russia, so we are trying to cause discontent among them so that they rebel against their government. and the context is the whole of 2007 and the eighth year. yes. and what is there to hide? now? all the same, such a disassembly has already begun, what hides something senselessly. now they are dumping

everything, by the way, with a specific purpose. yeah lend it spilling out also has a secondary impact on ours, you know, literally at the beginning of the summer i talked with some americanists who, in principle, i trust, who can assess the situation. and so they uttered such a phrase that, most likely, the western world will not need a big devastating victory for ukraine, because the devastating victory of ukraine is what biden just said. this is a different situation. it will lead not only to the weakening of russia, not what the west is striving for, but it will lead to a strange situations on earth. it will lead to protests to the fact that power can really be changed, and so on and so forth. and suddenly this is how such an opinion would be, i thought, well, maybe , how would a person see the situation in this way. and now a biden appears, who says that only victory is necessary for ukraine, which means that the victory of ukraine - this

means that the defeat of russia is like that. i think that we are in no way society, nor our government, nor our army. this defeat cannot be allowed first of all, you know, that's what i wanted to say about the splits within our society. i have been watching him for a long time. we have patriot we have turbo patriots who say, let's, let's run the war machine. i think liberals today what is the main quality? they are like a fist among themselves training manual went down. he may even be the last freak. this man is yours, yes liberal, but at the same time you will still support him, because he is of your camp. now i just want to appeal to all patriots russia to all the people who love russia we now we then we will solve our own internal strife problems and some dissatisfaction in this and a different view. but now we all need to be like a single fist and act

very well-coordinated and very clearly on this front. this is a very important point, a very important message, son. thank you agree. first of all, their sanctions only apply to their own people, that is, to those who like to eat back, therefore, with regard to the big fist. i think he already is. for all that, that there is a contradiction. you are absolutely right. but we are such a country, we perceive any external influence as a reason to unite and fill. sorry maybe. to those who influence us, this is our tradition. and now, regarding the goal, the goal is not just that russia loses the goal that it does not exist, and absolutely none in any way for 20 countries, divide by 50. as far as you remember, ms. albayt said that e belongs to russia - it is wrong to belong to the whole world. this they want to do. they want to return russia, as one liberal politician said, the borders of the principality of moscow, at least. and it’s better to have

no one at all, and therefore the question is in the wrong place or are we against the fact that i will completely go to you, are we against there, and the enemies are not together, but that we will be or we will not be, but everything else is technically important, but technical details. yes, at the same time , this is a biden statement, so to speak, it is very important for all of us, yes, because, uh, well, for the first time occurred. well, a certain disclosure of cards. by the way, you know, it’s not accidental, he really needed it, of course, that’s because the americans abstained for a very long time, and this happened not because biden. suddenly he believed in the victory and was inspired there, kharkov somehow you know how it was just an occasion that did not inspire anything, but without giving such a perspective and designation. what is the victory of america? yes , he can no longer organize all his vassals and all of these sharik banks and in

ukraine itself, too, therefore, what biden said, it. well, as if this is not the euphoria in which he is. that's what he couldn't help but say now. at this stage, the situation demands it from him. to say this is what he said, and therefore we must take this success very carefully and seriously. yes, biden did not say, pobeda and many of his colleagues in europe say that yes, ukraine has achieved success. moreover, in this choir the vulgarity speaks. now, if there were no arms supplies from germany, there would be no victory, as the spaniards say. here we also supply here each quietly says, here we are, here we are, here we are. solidarity is shown. and now the success of ukraine is the success of the collective west. and now the question is whether the victory in ukraine in this conflict and the

victory of the united states are equal. if there is equality between them, i doubt that there is equality. why because , for example, ukraine says, we want territorial integrity. we don't want to, uh, take russia. we do not want to bring down in paradise with russia there is no such thing, but 2 weeks. you really, wait, not not now a second, vasily wait. i did not understand you at the moment, because of zelensky here is danilov here are the smaller mongrels all said that they have their own goals of destruction 2 weeks ago, how would everything be like that, uh, what did you just say? i also like that there are people who say no no no no there are people, this guide is how to do it? two weeks ago there was a discussion on one of the channels. i myself was surprised and now the author says we need to understand that the west wants to blow up russia from the inside, but he went on. then he says we need some kind of tsushima for russia. for example, what can serve. for russia, we are not even crimea, we

ukrainians must conquer, sevastopol, now, if the ukrainian army, naturally, with the help of nato, will take not just crimea, but take sevastopol, then it will be an explosion. well, internally an explosion for the russians for the citizens of russia who these damn mothers of their power bloom. when i hear this , you understand, and before there was no such reasoning, and moreover, these thoughts. well, and said man must be quite changeable. before, i bring to what. and if the ukrainians push us, and they will push further and now ukraine lives according to the political elite of ukraine lives from one thought. on the first of october, the law on lenses comes into force, but these 100 billion. or how much money will be allocated for e. e for their fpc is, of course, through military equipment. all this will come to ukraine from there. we will show rus and kuzka. well, mother, and so on, that is, you understand what’s the matter, that this

war is moving to a level where ukraine itself has no back chance, there’s no reversal to return this, let alone reverse. and at least at least say. maybe we can out of hope. we are on today. what instruments, that is, this scares me that we, we americans, are persecuting us. europeans. they say, hurray hurray hurray and we don't have a chance in ukraine to even stop. well , what can i tell you, first of all, although we argued with you because of this, even then, until february 24, i believed that everything was heading towards this. it was just a scenario with a leading action, really. well, for the west and for e ukraine, in many respects unexpectedly, and everything will start the same. and by the way, when you said, do not pay attention to what goncharenko is talking about in the bathhouse. don't pay attention to the fact that some idiot is on the tank. by the way, this is well-deserved on the tank. yes, i'm not confusing anything. and when was that? military operation

your commander of the armed forces said, maybe a year before the start of the special operation. why is he going to ride around red square in a ukrainian tank, and he sees his goal in this. well, don't treat it, i told you then don't treat it like stupid jokes. two things touched me in the biden. and then in this swiss, a biden about the e russian army. he said there that he was like, she turned out to be not like that, but in russia, as it says, it means the president of the country, who not so long ago, in my opinion, fled from the country where they fought with her. guys in rubber slippers, you know, this they were there from there, having been there for decades, having achieved nothing, they left there. and no matter how much they tell me now that they really wanted this. there's no one wants to run away, since

beat the americans. let's be honest about it , it's another matter that they then, as usual, almost turned it into victory, but let's look at it somehow soberly, and uh, let's not forget that this country is also there created an army in iraq that was supposed to. uh, for a long time they created for some big billions of dollars trillions there, which crumbled in a week or two and which turned the other way around and gave everything that was put to her, so i don’t know the igil and they also said. this was such a goal of america, so let about who is who. we will also see who will do what and how in this military campaign. and secondly, of course, these porters. this is not the first time i hear about how the russian people, deprived of the opportunity, means going to the vienna opera and eating croissants on the champs elysees. this is, uh, the state and its power. well

, just take well, at least. well, for the sake of skiing there are some political scientists, and experts write articles there. well, look how many people in russia go abroad. especially in the western europe which they closed to us. well, here you know, we need to do one more thing, even from those who left. well , you need to somehow determine the percentage that you are ready to give for cookies. which cost no cookies. well, to hell with him. yes here, i left, for example, it is logical. yes, well, what's next? and still this percentage is necessary. uh, yes in the country where, and there are mostly those who even have passports or someone who traveled abroad, the vast majority. there, more than 90% is turkey, egypt, well, or there, another part travels there, thailand there, and so on. just on vacation, and in general only 20% of everything have passports, yes, 2%. well, look, at least you don't. they will go, taldychat. no, they are now we will deprive them of

their visas, and they will trample now, no, but he is in this sense, you see, he is logically consistent. they put on sanctions. and as he said, everything had to be. well, ukraine was explained. you won’t have to fight for him. ukraine, so she bred you there, and you won’t have to fight with me, as we are doing so immediately after 2 weeks after a week. well, russia will collapse. she didn't collapse, so here it is. and for that so what is called plan b yes, well, how else to influence copper on the opinion of this russian population did not work did not work economic sanctions. it's so kind of a visa, it seems to be for fools already, and the second plan, betta is right here now ukraine is winning everything that was needed for. this one is there, but win, there, and so on , so that they are exactly bidens and everyone else begins to say ukraine win. we see on the battlefield. everything, she wins and now they will convince of this. sorry to hurry. yeah hurry up of course, hurry up. no need, got used to advertising here

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on the russia channel, the release of the program 60 minutes, all the latest news about the situation in ukraine and in the world. today at 17:30 on channel russia is the program who is against on channel russia 1 we continue our discussion. well, we talked, but in the plans of our enemy about the declared goals. that's all. it's in the same mobilization mode. that's because the enemy exactly exceeds the degree with which he is going to, well, strengthen this mobilization. in

the broadest sense of the word, it is not only about military supplies or mercenaries, but in the broadest sense of the word. it’s interesting to me this morning alexander sosnovsky showed there, uh, the text is in german, but then he told me about it. yes, it was published in germany, uh, anonina, burbuk in uh. popular sunday evening program. as i understand it, yes, one of the leading german channels said. that's what we're in we are at war or we are at war. that is, she also joined completely this choir. i would take this in all seriousness. all without any discounts, as well as the fact that she said that she did not care about the german people, but it's interesting, uh, there is also enthusiasm in ukraine, but i paid attention. this is all, probably, paid attention to the ex-romanian minister of foreign affairs. here. i want to once again, maybe if someone has already seen it, but still show it, because it is essential, it is essential as well as everything

the rest exists. i myself am responsible. i declare ukraine is outside the natural borders, it must cede the territory of hungary, transcarpathia, poland, romania, bukovina, russia, donbass and crimea, secreya, with the territory of other countries , we cling to everything there will be a conflict, let's say it very clearly. until the situation is resolved through discussion with america, russia, germany, ukraine, and china, and an agreement is reached on peace in europe, there will be no peace , democracy will suffer. well, god is a democracy here, but here it’s interesting, interesting, different, of course, on ukraine all cocked. so the official protests began. uh, bucharest said we had nothing to

do with it, that's his opinion. and so, as if he urged him somehow, well, to correct this opinion, but this ex-winist, who is simultaneously considered both a philosopher and an intellectual in romania. this is such a well-founded and well-founded person - it's not just like that, he writes books, articles, there and so on. he said i wouldn't make excuses for anything. i both thought and still think that until it is divided there will be no peace in europe, that you want with it, then you do it. well, that's my point of view. well, it’s not necessary to feed the people here, it’s not necessary for romania - this is a super-marginal point of view, because romania is entirely in the radical part of the alliance’s strength. well, you know, sometimes they can disown, but nevertheless understand that a significant part of the society. but opinion supports this view. for example, there were polls in slovakia, and that's it. uh, they were shocked, analyzing these polls they get,

well, there were from one to ten, like, here, ka- whose victory do you want him to receive, that in general, almost 60%, they want the victory of russia here for slovakia and such a statement by a politician, it would be a trend, romania well, listen, she is absolutely not in our camp, then you are what i said ? what is she in our camp, or what? of course not, yes, i didn't . and this man is not in our camp. i am with you in general camp. yes, i'm trying to show the audience that he has e on na- well, firstly, about this minister. i looked, he was, in my opinion, a minister for two or three months, a long time ago. that is, of course, he is not a serious politician, but rather some kind of philosopher, what statements he makes, but quite eccentric to give. hungary and this is poland, in general, i think that if you ask him about moldova or maybe transnistria. he said that this is romania

. nobody speaks romanian there. i already spoke about this here again in the city of chernivtsi in the city in the city of chernivtsi they speak a little, uh, romanian. well, how only you alone, as soon as you see from the city, chernivtsi percentage. yes, from ports. uh, romanian in the territory of about 70%. vasiliev is bringing the team, so i'll tell you one more secret. e, maksim here , for example, vasily will check transcarpathia. i’m going to check there, along the pond, in my opinion. what language is not spoken, except romanian, in general , you understand, well, well, know russian words, now listen to me russian words know ukrainian neither

one word. i don't know some russian words , but the majority of those living in these villages do not speak any language other than romanian. for example, if i tell you about the main city of this region, chernivtsi, because maybe you were experiencing cases there in the last, but then i was the penultimate one, i went there, i specifically listened, you know, once someone was danish, well, i listen in fact. yes, after which i say this, even if in some villages they speak romanian, this is not at all the basis for romania to thirst the annexation of these impoverished villages at the price of this annexation will be a worsening of relations with e, large europe and with america. why is this necessary? i do not think that anyone well do not think it is not necessary. maxim decided to be so nervous, because i can

not think about anything. you think i don’t need it, that’s right, i’m talking about this in russia maxim again. you looked like chernivtsi did not hear romanian speech there. do you think that romania will not be, because it is enu , then it will regret it, they will condemn it, there and so on. it 's your full right, well, no plot at all, not what we we discuss to this, which in your impressions has nothing to do, because this is what this philosopher offers. and as philosophers, maybe, as a minister, he is marginal, and as a philosopher, he is quite recognized among them. here is what he offers. so he proposes a much more reasonable thing. he says the big uncles and aunts should get together. and make a section. that's something not like romania is going to privatize something. and he says the solution to conflicts in the center of europe will be the division of ukraine. and you tell me about

the way you walked. uh, in chernivtsi this is also great. i have already told you many times. i believe only in god, you understand with this expert opinion that they will divide ukraine with the participation of more than 60 russia at the same time, so it will be yes, maxim thank you for the interview. i didn't know that i entered you in interview mode. but if you still ask me, then of course i will have to answer you. i repeatedly. here you were told that with a high probability the whole situation. e around ukraine with a high probability. i am not god and not even grandmother vanga well, as he is, i am a man, so to speak, fond of philosophy and receiving a historical education. i can tell you that i understand that the solution to the conflict in europe really lies in the sphere of the division of this territory; the real solution to the conflict lies in this sphere, and in this subject, and in no other.

i have said many times, since march the first, that we are at war with nato. i even wrote a text on february 28 about this, you understand, and that this will be a fundamental existential situation around this february 28 wrote, and in march in this studio. i said that she would try harder. in the western part of ukraine, they will do everything for this, and romania will take their romanians, and hungary their hungarians, along with transcarpathia. and that will be the goals of these countries in this conflict. that's what he said. i have nothing to do with the issue of faith . yes, maxim of course i always respect his opinion, but in this situation. and you don't even get it right with him, uh, last week's statement. uh, well, literally posted a couple of days ago the statement of prime minister orn on the same topic,

which is somewhere in a closed meeting. e, said that the war will last. unfortunately up to 30 years. this, in his opinion, and, most likely, it will end with the loss of ukraine either a third of its territory, or half of the territory of ukraine, this is the current leader of the current e state. but this guy from romania, who is a philosopher. yes, he is funny, but he says what they all think about, what they all think about, and what. i know we have neighbors, god forbid, everyone understands that the poles, what we did that romanians romanians are just smarter. here he is so cunning, he talks about the fact that well, the wengans, of course, give transcarpathia, we are part of the bukovina, of course, what do we know, how do you know? in the caucasus they say, oh, you son of a bitch, and you asked the hungarians hungarians, who, as he says, is very much this territory. not not ukraine is a territory. ukraine does not belong than ukrainians. yes, it is necessary to cut it off, and some of it is trumpet. where do hungarians

live? in the same place they always say that this is our part in general, this is in general, and what does the romanians have to do with it? i to what? well, it would be better if this uncle was silent, but the problem is. what is the problem? indeed, there is, because the situation in western ukraine and through the eyes or there, i don’t know, with the saliva or money of the poles who spud. everything that concerns galochina and part of valyn, of course, hungary - this has always been and will be, they will defend their autonomy. how many dotisas they will take there or after the yews, and they have dreams, and they have dreams, of course, the romanians and romanians have not only the letter of guilt, but also the question of moldova. why are we here funny guys, there really is a way out. he said one simple thing. you paid attention to her. why don't they sit down? beijing moscow kiev brussels is good, warsaw and this is superfluous, he did not name them. well he didn't name them, but, but if if you put your say, yes i just say the world

agreement, how will it end? how is the division of ukraine or not, but this is a way out of the situation of the war, so this uncle well done that he at least had such a sensible idea, but still said, yes, but only you understand what's the matter. this it was literally yesterday, but biden also said before the victory yes, no conversations at all are foreseen. on the polyakov i would be more careful to understand because of the polyakov vasily about so that you understand because of the poles the yalta system went to dust because of them the yalta system went to dust, because everything was agreed, and then in the month of march already and at the beginning of april the poles they said that they would not admit all this and said, churchill means you owe it all, we do not subscribe to this, and churchill went to destroy the yalta system according to at the request of the poles, but they immediately started a war against the red army there, and the government in london disrupted the yalta agreements and everything, so that

later they would have in the form of the birth of the cold war, it was because of the poles to you. anyone who acquaints you with the materials will tell you for sure. so, that's not at any negotiating tables. i would not advise anyone to sit together with the poles, but i did not walk around chernivtsi to the novices. well, the historical name of chernivtsi yes, the city is austro-hungarian, but i didn’t walk around chernivtsi, but i walked around bucharest quite a lot and uh, seeing the situation. there mmm. once i was at a conference, when it was correct in chernovets. yes, i didn’t walk, but i’ll draw it, but, accordingly, i walked around bucharest, and, uh, participated in one conference held by the former prime minister adriana stas, this is no longer freak, this is such a solid heavyweight uh, he is retired and uh, what did he do, what did he do retired prime minister? and he set up a museum of old

maps of romania and collected them from the middle ages right up to, uh, greater romania from the time of the tanes fury and accordingly, with what love are posted there and bukovina and bessarabia and odessa, after all, under antanescu. uh, the territory of romania is the military governor-general of romania, it extended to god and vinnytsia was romanian, not only odessa, that is, everything on these maps is shown in stages by region with where what a miracle was the military, where is everything, and now for my trip to romania and in general, not including with the romanian military, at their defense ministry conferences , romanians have a very strong sense of imperial grandeur in a good or neutral sense, but the question is what vasil is talking about now under what situation would it be possible, here is my subjective opinion that if we very quickly

ukraine collapsed. uh, russia would hit the decision-making center and the conflict would end very quickly, yes, then everyone would start biting their pieces. now, uh, ukraine is overpowering. and therefore, to tear off from the overpowering ukraine. it seems to be not comme ilfe, you know, or i think that this is not even the point. and here's the visa. who will give him? it's like the ukrainian proverb says until as long as the united states retains control over europe and they can do what is happening in ukraine. this is only at their command, the united states. well, for now, they are not interested in giving this command, so either the command will come from america. break at some point. that's what i don't really believe in, or uh, when the situation shifts, so the united states won't have the power to control europe, and the second one is quite possible.

by the way, it is more possible than the first one, when they just give such an order, yes, that's because which, of course, is happening in the united states itself, and i mean, not only so to speak, the confrontation between republicans and non-republicans. but it's still unknown how it will all end. well, it's true, and i would probably continue your thought. yes, if, for example, you are sitting in the united states of america, they consider that he is losing the ukrainian conflict, and russia occupies the main part of the territory of ukraine, then it is quite possible to create some kind of this security zone. what did you hear a lot about in the spring, right? as once under the leadership of those countries that have their own views on part of the territory of ukraine, that is, again, we understand that poland, romania formally does not have the right to imagine any territories, because, as participants in the blockade, they cannot have territorial disputes, it is another matter that they can somehow create their own security zone, where these troops will stand, where it will be clear to be distributed and are already being distributed. yes, their passports and so on, that's what will

turn. conditionally we will not have a colony will be officially part of the territory, poland romania and so on. well, i don’t know how northern cyprus is, for example, with turkey. it doesn’t interfere. uh, turkey remains, for example, a member of nato and there are even some aspects of us cooperation. that is, it is possible, but to us in my opinion. here it is, perhaps in that context. territorial issues are a very serious matter, and i would not rule anything out. eh, everything, in my opinion, everything will depend. well, it’s clear that it’s probably from the united states, yes, but everything will depend on how the situation on the battlefield will develop. yes , if they feel that yes, they can, they will do it anyway, there entering the troops, ensuring the safety of their own and so on, but in fact it will be so generally territorial, all these disputes and teasing, there and so on. well, just look there. yes, for the same karabakh there, for abkhazia, south ossetia, any of these territorial ones for the same taiwan, by the way, by the way, yes, the issue of territory is always the cornerstone. yes

, it is very painful for many nations and countries even such big and great ones as china e, you may have paid attention, but to the words of the schols, when e he said that eh? there poland demands reparations. he said then we uh can uh get a border review and more immediately demanded state security, because come on, check it out. what to clarify? well, why clarify we are talking about west prussia yes, there, and silesia and eastern pomerania and so on. this is what we are talking about, what can i say, that scholz did not forget about this and the germans did not forget. well, they didn’t forget yes, and they never forgot the danzig won't forget. believe me, and the option will be gnawed off. they are in poland, it just hurts more and uh , it will be so there is no need to wake up. it is not necessary. you know, but here i am, unfortunately, here i listened carefully

to what maxim said, yes, that is, you don’t say it there and that means the mood there is not the same, but the very speech of this ex-minister should be regarded as test balloon. this is a trial balloon. here, let's start, and the first partition of ukraine, the second partition of ukraine and let's, let's not divide by military means, but let's we will make economic patronage. come on, come on, let's go help. and let's, and something else will happen there, ukraine as a state. she's not just weak. she is bankrupt, she is an absolute bankrupt, yes, and if you leave, well, this is already some kind of hypothetical reasoning, and why do the poles help ukraine in order to preserve democracy, the struggle for and therefore for the universal for everything good against everything bad. let's not know the poles, these are fields, these are not poles, 1.500. the lawsuit has already been filed against their property in western ukraine. non-poles have already drawn five areas that they want to take away. or transcarpathia, he perfectly knows the mood that the hungarians have, and then

the slovaks have forgotten the slovaks are also not at all opposed to tearing off their piece, and the romanians say, not only, well, not only about bukovina, they also talk about bessarabia, that is, bessarabian. well, this territory is in the odessa region and bukovina is also on it. oh, more precisely, romania is also looking at it very carefully. and then something like this, and russian interests were also severely limited. yes, lord that there is, if all the power is now concentrated in the donbass and there is a war going on, then the western part of ukraine is absolutely weakened. it is there there is no state state control, and there is no state power to resist this, that is, as soon as it is decided to divide ukraine in the west, the financial tap will be closed. it’s not easy to divide ukraine, that you just need to keep your hands on who will break up what, but those people who, and according to my calculations, about two and a half million, who have passports of poland hungary romania a. there slovakia and so on. that is, they themselves will pull up these pieces, such as the state. in different in different their masters. you just know that they will take their teeth and

pull them there, so to say that this is an unrealistic scenario. i wouldn't get excited. this is an absolutely real scenario, and you understand, and against this background, you need to understand that ukraine was held by the power of russia by the power of the soviet union and was gathered together in that form precisely by the power of the soviet union, never before or after it was not in a state. and probably never will be. that is, the only one who can keep ukraine at least some kind of framework. yes, that is, it is russia, russia, which it can only if it does not continue the same policy that is going on now, but reconsider its attitude towards those events, because the next after the events that are taking place in ukraine is russia, which is precisely main, and the main goal is its destruction. and how to cut it, but that ukraine will be sorted out by the west without us even when vasily speaks. and what after, even if ukraine wins , here it is for you vasil, even if you win, they will cut you into parts and stretch them in different corners. uh, it's there everything can happen then never then there mythical. and you

correctly said rodion just now. well, there is a difficult situation in the winter. so, in principle, a council is going to how to save the population? well, the poles must save the ticks. well, of course, i remember in this situation. uh, winnie the pooh who fled the flood. first of all, god saved one pot with honey, then the second one, then pooh sat on a branch and there were seven next to him. pots of honey. that's why, each in his own pot, yes, maybe for the sake of salvation, well, the population is in a difficult humanitarian situation without electricity and heat. that's the reason it's quite a working scenario. i am not saying that this is exactly what will happen. i'm not in order to mean someone, well, this seduce or console. it's just, well, the reasoning is possible, by the way, you know, maxim i was in 2003, i don't know if he is now was so italian

limis magazine, but you should be asked to eat it, right? this is a fairly serious magazine that specializes in geopolitics. so in 2003, the italian magazine limec, drew what will happen to ukraine, here is galicia in poland e bukovina in romania transcarpathia hungary here, everything, the rest in russia around kiev are three regions but the kiev region and zhitomir e, cherkasy e, vinnitsa but about i don’t remember chernihiv, now, it would have been signed, ukraine is 2003, an article of some kind, well, international affairs in this italian magazine defense of italy there are military centers. you know everything about europe, and you can always get qualified information from you. this is 2003 advertising,

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the channel russia 1 we continue our discussion. well, let's talk about that camp. yes, where is the militant biden. we showed it today. here i want show, uh taker carlson well in my opinion. this is another level up. here is what he says. joe biden on september 1st certainly applies in this speech will be stated that his program is not only the best for this country, which is always the president and biden told us that, the future of his program is the only program allowed in this country according to biden, competing programs. no longer allowed. they are not legitimate. actually dangerous. they pose a threat to the cathedral republic, when only a few months remained before the election, biden said that his political opponents were enemies of the state, they were essentially terrorists, comparable to al-qada on september 11th. as

he later explained without use, the united states is a two-party political system throughout our lives, if the leader of one party who is the president defines another party as not a political party. and how against what he does, of course, he demands from the party state. uh, dima is a paradise who's running for the democratic senator and zagaya just said in an interview yesterday. eh, i'm quoting. we have to kill this movement and resist it not to win, but to kill, that's how dangerous the populist republicans are, according to the biden white house. this is the language of totalitarianism. this is very obvious and a functioning system that wants to remain democratic by the people in power. there will be media, business, any responsible person will say no. you cannot do this. it's too dangerous. we cannot give all power to one political party. this is the path to something terrible.

that's interesting, yes, many say that the two-pipe system was formed as a result of the civil war. it's american, but i think that that american war really was civil, it was cruel, very cruel cruelty, there was a lot, but the parties did not strive for the complete disappearance of the enemy. they understood that they remained citizens of one country, the united states of america, and here is the civilian world. it will be an agreement between the citizens of one side. well, that's what happened to them in the end. and this innovation. that's when we say a new civil war awaits in america and i don't agree, not a civil war. the parties do not imply reconciliation. they are open. as tucker puts it, they openly seek to kill, disappear , destroy another country, but above all, a democrat. but i think the republicans will respond in kind at some point. well, i

really don't see anything good in this, because any destabilization of the united state in america will certainly affect the whole world. this is for me absolutely obvious. and what i have just seen and the processes that are taking place in the most democratic country in the world makes me think. you understand, so that humanity does not build the cpsu all the time, it turns out that everyone wants to build such a, one-party system under which they will make decisions, and all the rest must obey, then private and the ideologies that they e, with which they came to this society, especially since sometimes it happens in the united states of america, it’s generally amazing thing, but i think it's not just the way it actually happens. for this, there was a certain period yes, certain political events that led to what they have come to today, and this has already been tested in many other states when they say conditional democracy, for example, well, let's suppose in ukraine. yes, but conditionally

, it can be called democracy, but in fact it is a pure dictatorship, without any uh political processes of political parties , political competition, by the way, this is ukraine was famous for a period of time, but it was exactly before the americans did not fully control this country. as soon as they went there, everything is systematic with democracy. it ended there once and for all. this democracy no longer exists. until 2014, it was possible to say, but political competition, and rightly so, there is something else on vector politics, now all this is nothing. to me, i must emphasize what you said about the cpsu , maybe, well, someone will understand it as a joke, but not me, that's because i don't treat it like a joke. here, uh, you understand, there is a russian philosophical school, for example, the soviet school was not academic but philosophical. well, for example, as san-san zinoviev, yes, and all his followers would be there, that humanity has alternatives to totalitarianism. no, he

will have to go through this, moreover, they believed with conviction that the soviet project with all of it, so to speak, well, the rise, there and the fall and with everything else is a strong run, forward into the future and the whole world will have to in one form or another to live what was lived in the soviet union. i am i want to tell you dmitry at the beginning of the last century. it was the most progressive idea. i don't know in the whole world, probably, well, in europe you understand exactly, therefore this is the most progressive idea and it is today. i, for example, well, i look around and think, but what ideas are there today, well, besides the association of lgbt people there. by the way, it’s also an idea. and we sometimes compare, we joke about them, but this is not just an idea. this is the idea of ​​an ideology that gathers people around itself. and here is what is. oh what is said

well, at least something yes, here is the polar world, well , the multipolar world, with what with what with the emptiness, here is the multipolar world. it should differ in that there is something that does not suit us. and we want to build something new another thing what? and who can say this on the basis of what idea we will build an alternative multipolar world. with china, i understand this, but i'll take off i have big ones. yes, i, at the same time, i’ll completely say oleg , at the same time, i think that with china it’s just more than incomprehensible in this sense. that's because i the second here should. say i believe that humanity has gone through the period of existence of secular religions, seeing one dogmatic idea arranged , we also lived ahead of the rest of the person and went through the idea without ideology. we have already experienced it, and therefore the government is also in demand in society today. this is an ideology they don't want to know, who are we in general, what are we building? i just remember listen,

no one wants to know anything. here, let's start with this. yes, although they want, they really want. i remember bunch that came to power. went to the podium of parliament. and he says, tell me what needs to be built, i will build it for you, he did not say how he came there, he came there empty. naturally, yes, uh, a phrase, yes, literally one phrase. what uh what? what unites e, there is such a phrase, but it seems to me that it is correct in its own way, that it is our only value. this is what we are against their value, but really. with all the sarcasm, this truth unites both the russians and the chinese and the brazilians and everyone else, that is, rejection, what will an alternative, then about it, true, no one thinks, but first it will destroy, and then what do you think, and the point is not to destroy, but to resist, because honestly, i don’t know the motive, maybe , uh, max spoke sarcasm, but maybe not. thank you. that's why i decided, because i would

join you here, and i will say it very simply in a human way. here's how dima kulikov just say. i really do not want that all this, what these ideas are called, had to come here, and it became, well, to work with my children and grandchildren. i'm here for this ready to do everything to prevent this from coming and not getting power here. yes, i believe that enough motive and reasons are more than enough. because i say again, i have children and grandchildren, yes, and i understand what kind of world they want to build for them and i do not agree with this, and with these dissenting leons, and millions of people. and not only in our country. but is that what you're talking about? well, i don’t quite agree with pavlovich’s aids, because he spoke so consistently about the united states now before this last for a week he talked about europe that if there are problems there, it will not seem enough to the whole world. i still consider such a confrontation as a geopolitical chess game. and if something is bad with an opponent, this gives you the opportunity

to defeat him in one way or another, because, as in the saying, if a man is fine with a woman, then he most likely begins another life. here you can win, if you are ready to fight with him, and if at least economically, well, we have 130 billion dollars, in principle, we have no turnover us turnover goods squeeze out. well, with the european union, it’s unlikely, but the united states, you definitely tell them. therefore, for now, everything will be fine with them. uh, they will go somewhere else and find application in their capital. if there are problems, as we see now. the problem of choice, which means that harsh rhetoric is already internal, which is directed precisely at its own people, well, that's interesting. uh, just now there was news zelensky met with the head of the largest investment company blackrock. right there, uh, they talked about investing in ukraine. that's right. this is the largest fund and everything was fine there. only there is a nuance with anonymous possessions. yes, if a small nuance, no, there are beneficiaries. e that more than once that this is not a direct investment fund, which are contributions to the country, but

portfolio investments. that is, he, on the contrary, collects money from all over the world in order to get even richer and the only thing, well, in ukraine than he owns part of the capital, which is precisely in the agricultural sector of ukraine and is involved. there is a kargil japan, a mansanta such that they became the owner of the land they pump out all the profits from the agricultural enterprises of ukraine and it is not necessary to say that there are very large investments even in e. let's just say that in the time before the special operation, there were few who wanted to be realized. he met an attractive investment, allegedly on to ukraine in the. ukrainian enterprises. although here i was looking for enterprises that were opening, but for one man, really, you are a specialist, yes, and in investment activities and worked a lot with this, but you worked like that from block rock from black rock, all the more, here, if we discard this here, well, bullshit about attracting investments, because, well, this is absurd. why did he meet? well, they are also engaged in the management of private capital. sometimes, let's say the oligarchs, uh, they can place, but you don’t have

a suspicion that black rock met with zelensky, because in the sense he said, i ’ll come right now, come, it’s quite possible that they own an agricultural enterprise larger than territories in italy. uh, i think, i think, they discussed one topic, how to save, acquired not by strong here is the continuation of the land reform, which is quite successful there. that's what he said, you know. so how to save the acquired directly from labor, right? so, first, what i want to say is that all the events of the carpet take place in the united states of america, including the antagonism between the democratic republican party in europe , all these fascisization processes, they are due to purely objective factors and are caused by the confrontation of specific forces. the reason is very simple. the victory of the republicans of the european course is a complete collapse. the destruction of the actual globalist global

elites, their replacement by american national capital, on the contrary, is the elimination of the conquest of the us national capital by a natural biden. he says that the enemy of the antagonist must be destroyed and trump goes the same second to say that in russia this is an ideology . i strongly disagree. we have ideologies, it is one and very tough. it is written in the constitution, our country is a raw-food economy, and you are sitting capitalism. thirdly, what i want to say about the multipolar world is ideology. why quite clearly the ideology of the global level. it is fundamentally different from the ideology that the other side professes, and precisely the antagonisms of ideology. that of the monopolar world or the mundial world, it was precisely such a polar faith that caused the whole conflict and attack on the expansion of the west into russia, and it began, by the way, i pay attention. it was then, as if putin-it is openly proclaimed. she

is what is in shape in february or january. he was 21 years old when he performed online after that everything and began, so the conflict is now going so hard, then what i repeat next. this is the third world war, that further there will only be an escalation about the same conflict, this antagonistic one without the elimination of one of the parties. it will not end, there can be no reconciliation. therefore, i don’t quite understand why they say that there someone wished for something, no one wished for anything. this is a clash of real fundamental forces. yes , you know, here, i'm talking about the second, probably, i won't argue, but with the first i just don't have to argue. at i have a question, you know? well, well, so i always when there are two words, so i know for sure that they do not denote the same entity. this is what they said. yes, a country with a market economy means capitalism. well, this is here for me in logic . a clear breakdown, for example, you understand, in china

, for example, yes it is written that this country is socialism with chinese characteristics, while there is a market economy, there are far from all the main dominant peaks occupied by states . wait too. well we're occupied by the state the main dominant iranians are all here, but uh, well , at least all the strategic industries before the military-industrial complex and poke, yes, they are state-owned. now, if you add to this the whole vein, who is the tail, which is still a huge huge component, which is still the state railway, which is the largest banks, which are state- owned. yes, then in general there is no difference between us and china in this part of the formal analysis . this is just an objective reality, so i don’t care what, we don’t let's go. you see, he said market, so

it's something terrible there, like capitalism. but yes, i just wanted to say that, for example, in the united states, an economist, for example, forgive me, for example, accused stalin because he did not build any socialism, but built state capitalism. yes, and for a long time on this matter, it means that they discussed and this one had a whole, then the whole russian line, so to speak, that went further, there was no benefit to the concept. you are the profitability of commercial trade cooperatives, which is all was under stalin, the whole was a representative third third of the state baron of the order under stalin, artels were made. this is an official fact, and this is not the point, they really had a mixed economy, and indeed it was eliminated. nikita sergeevich khrushchev, who cut down. well, here you are just taking out the dark from my mouth,

firstly, i wanted to say that capitalism is by no means. it's just that we are often very confused in terms, and capitalism. this is not an ideology - this is an economic structure. these are slightly different things. capitalisms. kololi ideology is not worth calling. and, well, the second topic is also very important. in no case should you confuse the soviet project and the communist party project, which existed in parallel in our reality. i just want to remind again, khrushchev stalin that the nineteenth party congress, the professor must have read his documents, uh, the upcoming twentieth, stalin appeared there for 10 minutes, uh, delivered a welcoming speech and this was the first time in 13 years after the war. and the very successful years of stalin's communist rule congresses of the communist party did not actually collect this agenda. if you look at this agenda of a public organization, the cream went precisely to the soviet project, namely the councils, as combining

all the elements, executive legislative and other authorities, and was considered an innovation of the soviet project, the main one and stalin, if you remember the film, was a deputy of the supreme council and i stand. i am a simple russian woman here. they are, uh, candidate members of the politburo. well, this detail was not actually in politics. actually. this is only a carrier, if briefly party narrowly party couple parties - this is always. it is always implemented in the interests of a part of the population and what is happening now in the united states - this is obviously an anti-people party project , democratically so-called, because it is being implemented in the interests of a strictly defined part of the population speculation. yes , solar panels, let them be produced in china. yes , some gas by aslanians. here they can’t even europe there trump is going through europe they can’t saturate lng this is such a policy, because e

oil and gas - it always does not mean always for the republicans. texas is always for the republicans, so this is about the actual, really. e. that carlson is right, but in fact the pattern of the party of power was partly emphasized by the elites, because the party in translation, you yourself know this is part of what we are talking about. i would be here. here's another thing i noticed. it's the words. that's when we say that they will have a new civil war. this is not true. that's what is happening with them now does not imply an agreement, but reconciliation impossible from the outside. eh, democrats. yes, and the position that i did not take. well, by the way, about the rating right there. well, yes, please, the remark is very short. and what did we have in 1918-1920? we had no contract. the marriage was annihilated. wait all right. my grandfather is just coming,

look at konstantin, here is a reason to think, because i’m generally interested in me, maybe oleg will tell or other historians. where did the term civil war come from? and that's exactly the bolsheviks. well, they entered. yes, but i have a bunch questions to this yes, because, uh, look, well, you raised the question. i'm just, uh, very short because i'm very curious. after all, they are. even whites and reds were not citizens of the same state, because whites were generally stateless, because the subjects of the empire of the empire disappeared and the two-month-old russian republic also disappeared. in this sense, they did not possess any citizenship at all, and the reds possessed the citizenship of the russian socialist republic, it is in the russian soviet federative republic here. well, uh therefore how could one leave questions here, but the white czech republic began - this is the second line. i want to

finish this for understanding, you know, and here we are skipping all this and they definitely didn’t assume. not one nor the other, that they will be able to live in one state, of course, because, well, some generally believed that the state would be transitional , collapse and then there would be communism. and they said that his goals. we will never live. we don't know what the whites were talking about. well. what they offer, we definitely will not live with them. and so this was recorded. and the third began with the white- tech, and ended with interventions, and churchill said that if some whites think that they e that we support them in their interests, then when everything is over and it turns out terrible that it was we who used the whites in our interests said, churchill was then minister of war, he was hungry, but, nevertheless, a very short remark, and nevertheless a very short

remark pr movement for 22 years, according to him we eat the white cossack returned to the russian federation and a lot of generals are included. it was almost the first document about me, yes? well, yes, he now had a lot of uh missions, yes, but in essence, uh, those who agreed with life in this state? pressed so, yes, where we amnesty was. well, repression is a separate issue. it’s like we’re not drowning now, i’ll say it, only from my point of view. this was the end of the revolutionary process. that's what what happened, uh in the events that we we call repressions repressions, there were also, but uh, they were the end of the revolutionary process. uh, let's break now for the commercial right after it, we will continue. this is not a sentence, the treatment started on time

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not? does russia save the russian world without corral tv today at 23:00 on the channel russia seagulls premiere today at 21:20. this is a program, who is against it on the russia channel. yes, we have some kind of philosophical circle here in an advertising break. here we found out to god ukraine let's talk about history. you know oleg uh, here are philosophical disputes, but i paid attention, for example, here in belarus i was uh, alexander grigoryevich lukashenko spoke on the holiday. well, uh, he gave an assessment of the european situation. i want us to look at this assessment and then have a quick discussion. the united states of america is pushing europe into a military confrontation with

russia on the territory of ukraine, they do not hide their plans, contracts have already been concluded for years to come. that is, ukraine will be destroyed to the ground and the goal is to weaken russia and destroy belarus and one more goal. overseas hosts target europe america is the only country the beneficiary of what is happening here to europe in its place and to put europe in its place and remove competitors. today ukraine tomorrow will be moldova and the baltic states poland or romania states are fanning a war in kosovo trying to put pressure on serbia throwing coals, smoldering contradictions in karabakh muddying the waters in syria about ukraine i have already said. not everything is

simple in afghanistan and neighboring states. i heard a lot about this yesterday and the day before yesterday. washington is present in all significant political conflicts, while completely ignore the internal contradiction on the verge of civil confrontation. here, without excessive philosophy in simple words, but at the same time very accurately yes, that is, let's say every word denotes some something that exists. yes, he calls things by their proper names. by the way, dmitry did not let me lie. initially, i still do not know the sixteenth year, i said that ukraine is an anti-european project at the same time, and they are just working in this direction. we see how the americans are pulling in step by step through ukraine. uh europe in this conflict. well, today anna lena berburg. eh, she actually stated. we are at war. this is yesterday, right? well, we

are at war. here, i'm just asking myself a question. this is the foreign minister of a country that doesn't have any. strange things, because the americans have business there inside this country. and in this country itself. as i understand it, there are no cases there . they actually ceased, generally speaking, to defend their interests. i don't know why it happened, i can only guess the political elite of germany actually represents today not the interests of germany, but the interests of the united states of america, which i agree with. with lukashenka, of course, europe receives its political and economic dividends from this conflict. europe no matter what. let's recognize the european union is a major economic association. it's large. uh, an economic player and of course for the americans. well , for the americans. they were such, so the goal was set. they now i believe they are so far, but, well, the americans

have set this goal as a task and they are systematically through their agents of influence inside the european. inside ukraine, in the post-soviet space, they are implementing a certain strategy of their own, and, oddly enough, everything is fine in europe. it turns out from all european countries the only one. uh, conditionally the prime minister who is there, well, at least somehow trying to resist this, urban. and god, i can’t even name other politicians who could loudly come out of it. hear what you you demand from us contradicts our political economic interests. no one talks about this in europe to the constitution, one such remark, if only lena berbak declares that she is at war with russia, if the chairman of the commission, leo, assures, what is at war? that is, there is every reason for our species to request an official statement from these persons, if they confirm this, then the entire

territory of europe becomes a legitimate target for russia, but they do not confirm - yes, so, this is reasoning, if question, what if they confirm. he said about fascism and buried himself in the norm , you know, and buried himself. so we ask him barrel what did you mean, but he is silent, you understand , ursula and she lena will also receive silent. i'm just continuing from a colleague. well, they don’t confirm, they become laws, goals for russia, and that we continue to strike the uprising, and you will be happy, and this will not affect you and the answer will not come. oh how great. how cool we are, it was she who carried the blows, the response did not arrive nuclear war. it didn’t start excellent as for lukashenka, and i always know his statement, in what vein i analyze how they fit into the ideology of the russian federation and the closest union to belarus at the moment, everything has happened in

recent years, alexander grigoryevich knows well, and periodically he had some nuances midnight such passes. west what if what? i take my position a little, but now you see, this is absolutely in the spirit of the kremlin . that is, for example, er. we have some rep, uh, i had a word. in the spirit of the kremlin , i would not say, yes, but another thing is that this assessment there he said a lot of something, and a lot of sensible and useful things. yes, but from my point of view, probably from yours. this accurately captures the essence of the matter and the essence of the situation for me, this is important. but you already appreciated it without me grasping is not enough. and here i am at this moment, that is, i was interested after the meetings in samarkand well, not just they did not add up with everyone. they simply took shape with the russian leader. which retrieved. eh, lukashenka's impression was that,

in general, the format is still in progress, but here, in fact, these words of the president of belarus seem very important to me. uh, really on the topic of the day and uh, what did i pay attention to? why, after all , alexander grigoryevich he was probably one of the first, who started three or four years ago, uh, clearly. it’s clear that e nato is going to war with russia that e russia needs e and belarus e keep e eyes open and i remember that many speeches of that time were still a couple of years ago, and aroused in russia well, distrust, well, it's too radical, uh. well, where is she going to war. we are a great nuclear power there. and so on, but all the events of the last months have shown that alexander grigoryevich was absolutely right in his forecasts. yes, and what he was

talking about, uh, 2-3 years ago, uh, but many of us in russia did not listen to this and were perceived as a grin. sometimes we were wrong, and therefore this situation makes me listen to his words with great seriousness enough. there would like to extradite ukraine. well, uh, maxim alleged. yes , everything happened. well, by the way, they sorted it out. and by the way, by the way, you understand for sure that it was directly ukrainian. e. did the ukrainians themselves tell about this operation and laid out everything themselves. yes, but that’s why e, yes, it almost became successful, like a special operation, but the special operation that almost became successful is a failure, you understand, and in this sense, they figured out the operation of not only ukrainian, but also nato special services in belarus in belarus, therefore, the occasion failed . who let's go say, remember how it ended. well,

today is the head of one of those countries that are under pressure. eh, miloradodik, head of the serbian republic. today, he is just arriving in moscow and, of course, such a leader and strange ones need to be supported, the head of the republic of the heart as part of herzegovina 300 km from the balkan stream, which is a continuation of the turkish stream, built in the luka bath, i don’t know how economical it is, of course, beneficial for us, given that gas, while there at a price of $290, is not the highest. the price is right for them . but what a saying i liked that he said at uh, the press conference he gave before the visit. this is what the europeans, with their sanctions against russia, scored a goal for themselves in the last ninetieth minute of the match is quite curious. i would continue to think that, most likely, the score was not 00 by that time, but 1:0 in favor of europe and we are moving into winter extra time, where it will just be very tough wrestling, and in the spring, let's say, and in the spring it will most

likely be in a penalty shootout. and so, when there will be yes , big uh, big companies, let's say, optimistic professor with us, when he has big two won or an extremist professor or a professor to inherit, so they asked for an integrated approach in the spring, when will the penalty shoot-out be like? it seems to me, yes, between russia and europe , here are the big players of transnational corporations, and now they will clutch their heads from the fact that they cannot score this goal. let's just say, yes, virtual, but in reality they simply won't be able to this game to exist. e, i, perhaps, about the most important thing to say, because there is not much time left. still. let's by analogy three very serious forces. yesterday or the day before yesterday trump's speech about the death of germany e, lukashenka's speech and alexander nov's unexpected admission at the highway summit that e power of siberia two is actually a replacement for

nord stream 2 m. this suggests that all these centers of power understand that europe in terms of, at least the economy, most likely hopeless and already at least not subjective. this is perhaps the main lesson of the past week. yes, i would, you know, this lesson here is not last week, but are you right that there was such a misfire or upholstery? yes, as they say at this point, because , well, they don’t believe in it. just to europe more than the second. well, there is a very simple one, that is, the russian gas price for industry, we won’t even discuss it for agriculture, and the american one is five times less than the european one. yes, but electricity i do not know how many times americans, in my opinion, are seven times less than europeans. here, and china also says it will not. yes, you understand everything, right? and where is the european industry in this whole situation. this is done

by the europeans themselves. elite only only in the cemetery. well, in this sense, yes, winter is coming, as one of the americans said for some reason. so he used this phrase because of a popular work. well, let's see when spring is over there. let's see how someone will survive it today. watch the program right now and see you tomorrow. the monstrous consequences of the shelling of donetsk, the us delegation in geneva recognized biological experiments on ukrainians and where the hurricane that raged in kursk is heading about this right now studio evgeny rozhkov hello