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from this point of view. i think there will be a separation of donbass from ukraine. eh, well, absolutely positive. incidentally, ukraine's farewell to the donbass may also be perceived there, perhaps there will also be a positive perception. i do not know, but they said goodbye to the donbass in the fourteenth year, and it seems to me that at least those who represent the ukrainian government do not regret it at all. i don’t know how it is, uh, i can’t say anything about the mood in other regions, well, the ukrainian authorities did everything to ensure that these territories were torn away from ukraine i have always talked about this and there were many opportunities over the course of eight years to change this situation. they did nothing for this , therefore, it seems to me that this issue has already been finally and irrevocably resolved. here is the lightning. yes , just with the mark lightning was pushed on the head, the dpr asked russian president putin to consider the issue of joining the dpr to the russian federation as soon as possible following the results of the referendum. well, this is already a very high degree of certainty for me. i am the most important and the most important signal. that's it
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the event that i told you, i am already absolutely convinced that this is how it is and will be friends in other decisions. it seems to me that this should be about the readiness of the referendum. eh, you don't really have to think. why, uh, this is how the referendum was being prepared for all these months in 2 days. in fact , there was simply no solution. uh, give away and holding. well, by the way, i have said many times to people , yes, well, on the one hand, you speed up the processes so that they go quickly, remember that on the other hand, you are trying to ensure that all this the original was actually holding a referendum, if you remember on the day of the unified vote here in russia. they they planned the question of how prepared it is. well, here i am, my uh, the information from the earth is prepared to a very high degree. yes. yes, no, e at least i don't know luhansk from the donetsk republic. i know exactly. what is the level of preparation,
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there are also commission boxes, paper documents and so on. it was all ready. uh, so to speak, still a certain time before today's date, pushilin in an appeal to putin, the long-suffering people of donbass deserved to be a part of the great country, which he always considered his homeland. yes, this is a long-awaited decision , the people of donbass want to be part of russia, not only in terms of security, but also in terms of value and it is obvious that the west is completely. we are entering a new era of confrontation in the era of the new cold war in the west do not hide and discuss openly, what they want to put and e, f-16 and patriot systems, and some players, since, for example. the same poland in general, once we consider the current situation as a unique historical chance to restore former power. let's not forget what's important. the architect of the idea of ukraine
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anti-russia is a pole by nationality with bigni in georgian, who, with the help of the united states at the expense of ukraine, wanted to realize this idea, and it is clear that and this decision is correct. and this decision has long been overdue and we must accept it must be accepted e return, as they say, e your own to your native bosom, and even a small remark regarding putin’s statement, after all, uh, our special operations. we have driven the final nail into the coffin of american hegemony. after all what is hegemony, it is absolute leadership absolute dominance. here in the conditions of american hegemony. this is a special operation. in general , the events in crimea and syria would have been impossible, even putin's munich speech today, the united states is a weakening hegemot. they are well aware that time does not work for them, so they are trying to create hotbeds of tension around
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the main players around russia and around china and this tactics and strategy. they will, of course, act. in this speech, the president of russia said that this context is the destruction hegemonic world order. he is a historical natural and inevitable president. he said so even out of context. e in ukraine now, but of course, if you include the context there. yeah well, we've been talking since the beginning. this is, uh, the russian decision sped up. all these processes are the self-determination of all players in the world and their formation of their attitude towards this very one. e hegemony. here you are absolutely right. i would, i would divide the question of the referendum into two parts, and i am far from euphoric. hey, let me explain my position. yesterday, when, uh, well, there was information and an appeal societies. tips i left this point of view. i
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said it's good. this is right. if there will be a referendum and the people, but hmm, decide their fate in this way, that is, the will of the people is no problem. i do not see. the only thing. i insisted , well, not that i insisted. i would like this referendum to be held under the united nations hydro and to have international, uh, international observers, i 'll ask the editors. yesterday we had, in my opinion , in telepathy, but one storyteller. e with mister gluterem on one issue. i just want to show him after vasil's performance, right? well , by the way, so that it was in some kind of temporary space for people to prepare, then i saw it that way, and if yes, if such is the fate, and people made such a decision, they voted none. unfortunately, i don't see another thing, what's going on today? today there are two moments the
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first moment. and i understand this, that i also heard the assessments of mr. volodin and the same mr. medvedev, but they are talking about the dpr republics adanbasse, but i have a question. and what will happen to kharkov, what will happen? zaporozhye what will happen to kherson, but these territories? they, too, uh, applied for a referendum, we applied for becoming part of the russian federation, but there are, firstly, battles. well, there are also battles in the donbass, but the thought now a second, you're done, well, there's just such a question. but the administration of the kherson region decided to hold a referendum. here is zaporozhye yet, but video areas. e, made a demand. if i show a video there now, yes, hold a referendum. you
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see, yes, this is melitopol, so it will be decided, and most likely, in the same order. here. no, what is there? there are some peculiarities, we will wait for information. i think that during if the referendum was held earlier than necessary. let me then, i'll complete my position with clarity, uh, in terms of the political process. yes, what were you talking about? eh, erdogan in his interview today? yes, he referred to contacts with putin to contacts zelensky, he spoke about the butysh, and his position in this article was a thought. what is what but, but how will it be, how will this process end? will the referendum process end with an exit to e, the peace agreement between ukraine and russia, if erdogan said that some concessions are possible, and territorial concessions could be assumed that, relatively speaking , russia will depart, which will depart from ukraine, but this, if indeed there would be an agreement between
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the russian federation and ukraine there, turkey and the united states brussels, that is, for the international community to accept this referendum. to accept, and the draft settlement agreement and the military conflict would end. it would be, maybe it would be tough. it would be, maybe unfair, no one would be satisfied, but there would be peace in this situation if the referendums were held according to the crimean version. yes, it is obvious that they will pass, because in 4 days already. about what kind of world you can rub understand, dear presenter, then we will get it possible. unfortunately option istanbul is one where a referendums will be held, part of the territory will be recognized and will enter the russian federation and who will be the front, we will again get the line of division and territorial disputes will be along the line today, the division between ukraine and russia will pass along the line of contact today's not perfect conflict. yes, we won’t
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get peace by referendums, no one decides. yes, wait, but i 'm telling you, it won't work the second. yes, you won't get it, you won't get it, we wo n't get it. you see, here you are always, as it were, i i begin to discuss and argue with you, because you are distinguished by an amazing ability. when you come to the program, you seem to forget everything that we discussed. well, look at nothing. here, i remind you, i 'm afraid to make a mistake 10 days ago or at the beginning of last week. i publicly said here. in general, i try to fix all my public positions and then return to them. if i ever make a mistake, then i say, i'm sorry, i was wrong then. i have few such cases in the history of public speaking. maybe 1-2, but i'm all i still prefer to do it. sorry, i was wrong, otherwise you can’t understand anything at all. i say again,
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i published an article on february 28, which was called we are not at war with ukraine . and that it will be very difficult on february 28th. i remind you that this digression was lyrical now last week. i told you everything that ukraine did in the happiness of seizures in terms of what europe is doing pushing them, yes, and in the honor of what america is doing will only lead to one thing - to move the situation to a higher level of escalation, in which a peaceful solution will not be possible for long enough. well, at this level, and will lead to a changeable type or method of action of the russian federation, of course, the russian federation, since the objects have changed it was changed by ukraine , its owners, then it is necessary to change the method of working with this object. this is any you. here. it was said
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last week. now you are wondering now. this will not lead to peace. this will lead to what is our people and our territory, you understand, no one disputes this dmitry i'm only talking about the fact that there was a meeting of erdogan's presidents. and putin, they have been uh for so long, and today erdogan has publicly released information about this meeting. in particular. he spoke about the fact that there will be an exchange of prisoners. in particular. he talked about the grain deal and in particular. he said he was asked a clear question, could there be a world peace agreement between the russian federation and ukraine he said that it could be if there were territorial concessions, because those are the most useful questions. so i started from this, that if there is some agreement, then holding a referendum can lead to peace or not. yes, look here is the position
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of president erdogan, of course, and i relate to it. sincerely. here he immediately took the position of the last. yes, he does every time. he speaks in order not to be in my position. i don't have to be on either side everyone heard. and then he is engaged in what the position allows him to do in the interests of, first of all, turkey and turkish people. he does it right for himself . yes, and it is necessary to understand it in this way, and not in any other way, so that later no one else will be fascinated and disappointed, but this situation will lead, perhaps lead to a peace agreement. i see that she will not come, and everything, perhaps, will lead. well, maybe not the one you're expecting, maybe it's the start of a peace process. i don't rule this out. well, here's another e moment. uh, you know, you 're talking about international organizations. that's all obse since the war right in the donbas obse rich. uh, who else was there, including mr.
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gutysh, here are all the kitties of the zaporozhye station, where did they go to elena? no, i didn't get there. and what is it that nothing arrived. do not know not formed a group. that's interesting, why didn't the absce the obse investigate, for example, the bucha and put its signature under the bucha, you don't know why? well, what is where, why is such a right such a seasoning crime, as ukraine submits, it was not investigated by the osce with exhumation from podvalagonatomy, uh, with criminal expertise, and you don’t know for the osce to put it on your signatures, but don’t remember the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, the international prion organization, yes, it came, it looked like it didn’t say anything, then it issued a document that, uh, well, so rude russia is generally to blame. do you think we're going to have confidence in all of this. you have
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brought up this topic. here is a look at a butyrish who discusses the fundamental issue of equal access rights to the building of the united nations nations for delegations. look here is the general secretary. un look. we have made it clear that visas should be issued to delegations from all countries. i sincerely doubt that the arbitration will lead to a positive result, and in any case it will not likely change. even this will worsen the relations of the host parties to russia the arbitration will not be able to provide for any coercive measures insists the host party is obliged to provide access to delegations of all other countries for their arrival, out and implementation of work within the framework. he i will explain the russian federation filed for arbitration against what the united states says for a second. well, why did you
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do it? this will only worsen relations, the host parties understand, and you are used to it, well, you are talking about the fact that these international organizations can legitimize anything they cannot legitimize. they are their rights. they can't have their rights. they are not going to protect them at all. i have a feeling that he is following the path of the league of nations with leaps and bounds, it's just that there is such a thing. e feeling when you look, here you know such absolute helplessness. some kind of pity. yes and so it is clear that this organization in which can not. uh, it means to insist that yes are registered at her meeting, there are no people coming everywhere by the laws of e, what can she do to resolve some serious situations, it makes no sense to count on this, e, in the same way as in my opinion ,
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absolutely. uh, it's pointless to count on as some kind of positive thing there. there from the side. eh, well, the same european countries. yes, supposedly yes, there are many who will understand now that this economic reality will not force anything , you know, i looked today in a german e -newspaper. e hans blatt, one of the well such leading german publications. uh, and there uh, columnist columnist. as they now write about the need to somehow put china in its place, that they behave this way. this is generally what it is, so there are two main postulates. the first is that china's problems now come from the fact that xindinping does not believe in the western press the message in the western press. you see, then there is about russian crimes, but from her point of view it should, what does it mean that ukraine wins the war and so on. she lists what he does not believe and therefore makes mistakes from her point of view. and the second is that europe turns out to have incredible
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economic leverage on china, we easily write with the help of sanctions, it will put china in its place. that is, this is it, but already back in germany. this is exactly what they said about russia, which means, this is a columnist view of one of the leading means of the media in germany, which is in the position in which it is after those terrible nightmarish, which means e restrictions in relation to russia, economic above all. you understand what to expect from these people, in my opinion. no good, uh, i wanted to look at uh, the way the minister answered the question of the referendum, russian foreign affairs sergey lavrov your attitude to the referendum initiatives of their urgent dpr lpr. we from the very beginning of uh, a specially military operation. yes, in general. in the period preceding it, it was said that in
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the peoples of the respective territories must decide their fate, and the whole present situation confirms that they want to be masters of their own destiny. short and clear. yes? here’s an interesting thought, the inhabitants of artsakh also have the right to distribute their fate, which means, well, by the way, this means what a modern one is, of course, he’s modern, of course, from a gradual one and wants his own, but, as it were, a state, and this always begins when it begins the new rebuilding of the world of the league of nations perished, because the rebuilding of the world began again. she is does not correspond to the data that was formed there, it disappeared, but even modern it and even the charter of the un. it allows russia to absolutely legitimately conduct its operations on the territory of ukraine. i always think why the west always denies the real existence of nazism in ukraine, it
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thinks why they don’t want to see it, but it’s so obvious, and then i realized, yes, because i’m tired . he especially article 116, which is the seventh soviet union then thanks, then and to them who these clauses are there, that, they have to unilaterally repay any hotbed of nazism. if they arise somewhere, that is, according to the un charter, we have this right to exercise its right. russia today can do exactly this and can do it absolutely legitimately. and if it is legitimate, then the west's assistance to ukraine is illegitimate, because they go out on this arming the nazi regime, so they are catastrophic, so, uh, let's say. so, e suicide and therefore the americans do not give visas, which in russia means participated in the assembly. why because they understand even all these conditions, which in in general, it became amorous yes, toothless, and so on, and even in these conditions, russia wins, because it
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can poke all the clauses of the un charter that allow it to act legitimately. this means, uh, let's put it this way, but the fuss is this fear, and the americans, who understand that before the international one, this. society, russia looked like absolutely legitimate actions on the territory of ukraine as for, you know, donetsk’s readiness for a referendum, they were ready yesterday and lugansk was ready yesterday, because 8 years, when you waiting for this moment when it comes. you are even ready for this every day, so i am absolutely sure that if it is appointed, there will be 23 on any day to inform. it will be worthy or legitimate to hold these elections, and ukraine says, of course, to get rid of this burden, because they never considered it, luhansk is, let's say, a harmonious part of ukraine, because this is an absolutely different mentality. it's, well, it doesn't seem to fit. uh, at first they wanted
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to go out with this galicia, and then they thought, what can we go out about, if we can take kiev and take the whole of ukraine well , this is how it turned out so that it will now be divided and dismembered ukraine. alexei i have a proposal for you. let's break for an advertisement, and then i'll show a very important speech by alexander grigoryevich lukashenko. well, a fragment, at least a very important one, and then we will directly continue the discussion with you right after the advertisement. the switch person is not dangerous in everyday life, the virus is not transmitted through a handshake, hugs and kisses. learn more, but speeder seagulls of the previous series, who is what doing here? former volleyball coach maxim topol learns that he has a daughter. i just need a piece of paper so that the type of guardianship that i live with you will help, to become her guardian, he must find a job. to train the women's team
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for all of us who live on the territory of belarus for pro-government and not powerful for positioners and fugitives, we must remember, if we do not take our heads in our hands, then in this redistribution of the current world. we will again find ourselves in this terrible political and economic mess. yes over me slightly dominated by the events of yesterday. the day before yesterday in ancient samarkand is especially felt there when you sit among the heads of state. epochs there, you especially feel our earth , no matter how many of us there are, 10 12 20 million must die, but save it for their land for their own
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for their children. otherwise, we will again hunch back for centuries, until the situation develops, if it turns out that we have become independent again. here is the moment and the lesson is one. we will not be pushed, then to the left, then to the right, then from divide and cut from east to west, if we live on our own land, we will value it not to give it to anyone and we will sacredly keep our sovereignty over this territory, therefore, only the people, only the state, are personal aside. important and there was another point. for some reason, i didn’t enter here, where yuryevich talks about two periods in the history of belarus and simply compares what happened to belarus when it was part of the west and what happened to belarus when it was together with
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russia e he describes it in detail. uh, clear and draws a conclusion. yes, all the epochs, uh, the prosperity of the development of both the people and belarus itself were associated only with the slavic union and nothing else, just like that, yes, he compared the period of western occupation specifically, even about poland, he spoke to the commonwealth. i was just at this event, there are 15,000 people. everyone heard this, that is , accents were declared throughout the country in our dialogues and in our values, we developed in alliance with russia with the eastern slavs and this is the period of ancient russia the russian empire of the soviet union is red line, he emphasized for us these periods, heydays. together with our brothers and allies, well, of course, the assessment of the west and the polish occupation should have been extremely, tough and harsh, probably, the speech of the president of belarus has never been. it is so focused on who we
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really see as our enemy, who has been destroying us all these centuries, this is such a very important historical speech that, well, charged many belarusians. we were waiting for this, in fact, these accents all these years, in fact, because time is no longer up to halftones. we need to say who is a friend, with whom we can really develop and i would like to say now about the referendums. in fact, the fundamental value will come from these referendums, because legal political real self-determination is coming for the inhabitants for the people. donbass , they will be russia, this is no longer gray. a zone, not some kind of intermediate state, and russia will defend these territories and it will already have the right to legal rights. cleaning with all your might is very important. it is very important that people there understand come already another other age fixed will it legally stop the war? as he asks , no, because ukraine will try to prevent the holding of a referendum, it will
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continue to terrorize the inhabitants of donbass, but russia will no longer have any. uh, circumstances, look back, hope that with this kiev regime it will be possible to negotiate something. no, it will protect these territories, full-fledged absolutely legitimately, this is important. unfortunately, until ukraine understands that every time it gets worse and worse conditions will relations with russia with the donbass. she will lose these territories further, because i’m going to fix the border legally, e, lc, dpr kherson zaporozhye region, most likely, they will become part of russia, but it won’t end there until they come to their senses in kiev. they will come to this stage of sobering up, because i am sure that there will be another escalation of violence from the ukrainian side, but russia will already respond differently. not without any gentle mode. it will be very.
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