ru we'll see you all for that. good afternoon. this is a who's against program on channel russia 1 and in studio dmitry kulikov in austria are intensively preparing for possible blackouts this winter due to russian hacker attacks, and the likelihood of these events is very high, since this is a quote from one of the hybrid warfare means for moscow suddenly reported the head of the austrian ministry of defense, german president shtan meyer, in a christmas greeting, said that now hard times have come and germany is facing a

headwind, while he said that christmas new hope is german as ukraine what the federal president saw the connection between christmas and nationalist ukraine remains a mystery today is the second day of the informal cis summit in st. petersburg, the guests were offered a working breakfast, and individual meetings continue. vladimir putin spoke with armenian prime minister nikol pashinyan to discuss the situation in the south caucasus and continued already. now we can say almost continuous conversations with the president of belarus alexander lukashenko the parties are satisfied with both the process of this dialogue and its results. look , our government is working pretty hard. i know what governments have been reporting to you. she gave me details of my

contacts. well, there is already something to talk about there, so i am very glad, because just like that on the sidelines of our informal meeting. the two of you can meet again and discuss what is mutually interesting. thank you for moscow for the cosmonauts for the assessment. i visited there and look, it's better decently. time and peter something looked. well, if someone correctly said , he thinks that we only drink tea, because and we were not only with you yesterday. ah, at this tea party, but also late in the evening. returning home, we discussed a lot of issues. and sometimes it takes years for some statesmen. over the course of the evening, we dotted many points over and continuing our dialogue with minsky, since

he was mainly on the economy. i thank you for the fact that yesterday many issues were finally agreed upon, and the government will finalize them, they cannot have them with us questions. we have already decided everything they asked for, so i thank you. well, it’s very good that all the issues have been resolved, paraphrased the strugatskys , we can say that there are signals, nechaya is not drunk there, here, paraphrasing what the president said, lukashenka, because as i understand it, communication is very tight. and uh in the evening. we went on a one-to-one yesterday this morning. hey, this one has another sequel. and in general, all issues have been resolved ; the technical details have been transferred to the governments. in general, look how much symbolism there is in these meetings, and where they are take place in the russian museum in st. petersburg, how it is all arranged. e great attention is paid to the russian language, which is also given to this

symbolism. it is no coincidence that the west is actually trying to drive russia over the flags. these are the conflicting signals that go. this is the old anglo-saxon tactic of two tracks. well, or cool gingerbread on the one hand. they shout, we will give ukraine more weapons. we will help her. this is the christmas star or bethlehem, which lit up for us. uh, demonizes russia on the other hand constantly go signals about some kind of negotiations, by the way, exactly the same thing, they make the relations of belarus here in poland an amazing trip. they threaten. they are massing troops. they are already deploying a new division. they get new chinese and at the same time they suddenly started talking about some kind of round table and the possibility of negotiations with belarus, they are trying to pull us apart, they are trying to lure us into this trap and there can only be one asymmetric answer and this symbolism. eh, meeting. he emphasizes. uh, this one, but this strategy that we have chosen, we will not

to follow what they offer us, we will not return to the rules and conditions from which we escaped, but there is still a very important point, an important signal. why e lukashenka and putin meet here separately along with the fact that the cis summit is taking place, look at what things vladimir putin said, the goods exchange between russia and all cis countries will reach 81 billion. already reached in september. and, perhaps by the end of the year it will reach 100 billion attention of more than 40 billion from there. this is a belarusian product and turnover, and belarus is not the largest country in the cis the largest, well, look at the strength of uzbekistan to compare azerbaijan to kazakhstan in these countries, missed opportunities this year. they are frightened - intimidated by the west, when they rushed about, we remember how they voted, out in march and april. yes, and later, choosing. here is a line of some kind, as they think of neutrality. in fact, it

is damaging both its economy and its national interests and its security. and this is the frequency of meetings that vladimir putin personally holds with the leaders of the countries of the post-soviet space, but if you like it's that kind of therapy. these are the same signals that are sent during tea drinking for all this post-soviet space. it seems to me very important. so you said it won't. this is the realization that there will be no return. yes, and that page is turned. well , by the way, last week about this president. he is open. yes, he also said about the choice, so to speak . directly the question is posed point-blank, that she and fluff. she 's over. by the way, this understanding is the fermentation of what ended and happened era change. uh, here's the meeting of the minister of foreign affairs. lavrova with the leaders of the russian media well, there have been many such fragments

that reflect this new understanding. e. well, here, er, i want to show something separately and especially. when francis fukuyama? uh, 30 years ago, even earlier even earlier, he declared that the end of history had come, when he meant by this the complete dominance of the liberal ideology of liberal democracy of the liberal way of life, and meaning that the competing world system of socialism has disappeared. through for some time he was very quickly raised to death and began to speak. this is how france was wrong and it is not necessary to make forecasts so categorically. and now, if you look at the policy that the administration of the canoe is pursuing, they want exactly this.

they want the end of history to take place not just in the works of political analysts and political scientists and research, so that it takes place in real life. and everything that we see now in europe in its broadest sense, everything that we see on other continents, where from each state the american gons demand to take an anti-russian position; they demand to join the sanctions; they demand not to communicate with russian representatives. it's all reflection. here is the very same attempt to still install. end of history to establish the final irrevocable dominance of that same golden billion. when we are told let's still look for some solutions, some compromises. now, if we talk about

compromises, it was during a triumphant visit to the united states that zelensky said a just world means no compromises. this is exactly what is now guided by and its owners no compromises. we will dictate our will. that is why it is necessary to defeat russia not only on the battlefield, as they say, but also to inflict a strategic defeat, so that no one would be disrespectful. this , in fact, is the specificity of the moment and the overwhelming majority of the countries of the world see this very well and understand this very well. yes , this factor, that they want to create a situation so that all other countries, the vast majority countries of the world are looking to see if it will be possible to create such a situation. or not, depending

on the result, there will be some cardinal radical consequences, of course, uh, the americans really like russia and especially her. here are her versions of the ideal russia - this is just the nineties. that's when in the nineties, according to the results of economic analytics, russia suffered more losses than following the results of the second world war. this is the kind of russia you like. that's the kind of russia she's quite satisfied with the west she can work it fits wonderfully into their picture of the world, when there is the whole ziren, who commands , determines all the rules, everyone else works for him, someone supplies gas, someone supplies, then there, and products. it 's called the cultural world system of division of labor, and division, yes. we live well, and we helped us in the global economic system, there is a global system of division of labor. here is the world master whose economy says, here you will do it. you give you 5 kopecks. and you generally

have fun. this is how the work is divided. here's to as a result of such a division of labor, we get the current conflict in ukraine, that is, its origin, in fact, is essentially that while the americans could not force everyone to drive in other ways, they could not drive everyone into this frame there is the golden billion. there are all the rest, uh, 7 billion, which are working safely for the interests. this golden billion headed by an american was told to pump oil and gas and quickly to the gas station and keep quiet or what ? that's it, neftegaz will give you five dollars for that and all. and shut up, why are you unhappy. well, it turned out to be dissatisfied that it was not only russia that was dissatisfied, strange, guardianship plus. satisfied china dissatisfied india that's the problem arose here the fracture of the world. that is, here it is, but, in fact, the fact of the very introduction of hostilities, that is, diplomacy was not enough to convey with the help of diplomacy, it was not enough to go with the help of the economy , they turned to military operations.

and today what is happening in ukraine is a marker for the whole world. you are absolutely correct. talk a lot states are looking at what will happen in ukraine. if russia can prove that it is ready on the battlefield, but smash, but all the attempts of the americans, but to influence in a military way, then the world will be different, then completely different transformations will have to happen other centers of power will appear. that is, against the same background, you can see that when in diplomacy russia is now trying to simply throw nothing new out of the united nations, that is, 20 years. this story is already 20 years old, but again the ukrainians have already drawn such a treatise and went with it went to the united nations says, and let's remove the russians from there, because they went there wrong, they are not the successors of the russian one. e soviet union in nato they can not be. in the united nations security council and here, to have the right, the veto, we simply cannot dislike it so much. this is they cook district. yes, they are waging an information war, of course they are. you see, this information war. here

we have a plan. eh, it's written in this plan. why can't russia be safe with this. we will now run around parliaments and with parliamentary shooting. he was in the papers saying that we have a plan. that's it, this question was answered a long time ago . russia is a successor state. she took on all the obligations. she took over all the rights that belonged to the soviet union, which was an accidental organization of the united nations and ukraine did not protest, when russia took on all the debts and paid off the debts, that is, ukraine was quite happy with this now after 30 years. they say no no, let's reconsider us like this approach. no, lord, sit upright, that is, everything that happened, but today it happened rightfully and quite consent and ukraine as well. here i pay tribute to your, by the way, diplomatic skills, because very often we say, the assignee. this is not true, the difference between the pro-state successor and the successor state

is huge in all the functions that they carry out and therefore the russian federation is precisely what, in terms of international law, is the successor state of the union of soviet socialist republics, this is a very important remark. it would be nice if everyone remembered this. and what do you remember? personally, i would like zelensky to also drink tea with putin and come to a meeting of the formal and informal cis, especially since ukraine has not left the cis yet, there is a reason not only that, i said it was recommended to zelensky and god yes, well, in the nineteenth zelensky and ermakov in the twentieth year that we in the cis are not all lost. we need to meet, we need to talk, but these are my dreams. it is clear that after gordon with this your the minister of the interior drank a white one in paris, and the dog, yes, then they were instead of tea. and by the way, they beat the little white one, remember, that's

the consequences, even with you we don't remember who it was, that's the story. i immediately couldn’t pronounce my last name quickly, it will wash away everyone else, but this is the lyrics, and now the real realities are such that yes. ukraine wants to fight. then ukraine says ukraine is the initiator. it is clear that not only she is about her hands. uh, i mean, ukraine is the initiator of the exclusion of the russian federations are not only members of the un security but in general with the un since. well, for now, with the word of the ambassador of ukraine to the united states, consultations between the united states and ukraine are still underway. what should i call it, because, well, no. there are terms here. awesome, thank you for reminding you, i forgot about this last week, because i, frankly, laughed, because it ’s impossible for america to call a state of terrorism a terrorist, they have such legislation, then it will mean breaking all trade ties

completely to america - this very bad. highly bad. severing all trade links. america doesn't want that. well, you have to call it something. well , let's think. that's where it comes out. let's call it aggression. what a fresh idea. what does it mean? it means nothing in terms, well, no, but a weak idea, let's think more. this is what constitutes the main activity for ukraine, what can i think of? dmitry what is reality now? what is it not only ukraine wants. i see that if other countries, we all understand. why does the security council do nothing simply on the grounds that the winners in world war ii they, e, agreed to such a system of government and it can only be changed in one way only to win, that is, to replay the war or otherwise the war. as a matter of fact, against one of the countries that are there

, but there are other countries that are lower, for example, germany and japan, which say, we also want to be a security council. we also want to be your own business. we have an economy in general, we are cool, despite the fact that they lost. and now this game, speaking diplomatically, ukraine will use. unfortunately for me either way otherwise. let's wind let's wind up to remove or not to remove, but it will not work to remove not because i don't want to, i don't want to. i also hear lavrov, you showed part of the laurel. well, the lavra has already continued this speech further. and this is what i hear. unfortunately, i monitor the situation in ukraine this phrase. lavrov that there is a proposal, but he said there in such a form as he said. there's an offer. it 's still on the table. either you do it or you move on. interview for taz already said it's a different event, but well, it is, you can do anything fulfill it on the table is what was served back in april. you can do everything and even before the operation, you can do everything, but

you understand, it’s like it’s on the negotiating table and then it comes out. uh, another representative of ukraine, minister of foreign affairs, kuleba, who says, we want to hold ourselves in the month of february. here is the same one. yes, but he says, we want a brilliant secretary, he was a mediator and a secretary. he says, i am ready to be a mediator, but if the countries are all ready, and here again our ministry of the country to the cause of ukraine says, no, no, without russia we can hold a world forum, well, without russia, why me? well, i think, then and without guterish. do you understand what he said, do you understand? why did i cut it like that, because you understand, dear presenter. i see in this in this so to speak, no, only one thing i see no point in negotiating. this is the first. i see that the united states of america does not want to negotiate in the first place. and ukraine. not even ukraine, but the zelensky minister of foreign affairs, that is, the political leadership of the country went to war. tries somehow crawl to weave, what to weave,

and where is a sensible thought, where is a sensible thought. let's defeat russia as we defeat russia in the first place, quote, look. here's to complete we have all the offers on the table. i close to the texture then quote all the sentences on the table that were they lie there. you can complete them. if you do not fulfill them, our goals will be achieved militarily, all the point. well, you understand, this is, well, a closed closed construction, when the construction itself exits one war, there will still be sergey and there will be. here see one more thing sergey viktorovich said, it is very important. um, what 's zelensky's last hope of getting the americans into the immediate direct? military clash with the russian federation means, er. here i can say here, i'm practically sure of it, that's as long as it's still there on earth. everything will happen. it's hope, it's pointless. that's because

it fundamentally contradicts american goals, the americans, before turning on the war in any form, will dodge from this, as zelensky has not yet dreamed of, because they believe that they have only one chance to strike when everyone else is completely exhausted in this in this situation. america might have a chance. but if this is all a hypothetical situation, if zelensky ukraine hopes to live up to this moment, then they are fools. you see, in america there is a proverb in this, you know, when it was maneuvering and they will catch it, but ukraine will catch it. i'll tell you a ukrainian anecdote about america, even about america it is still unknown do you understand this and the historicity of the moment. you have come to this point correctly, a

new weigh-in is taking place, if in a sports term, yes, who is worth, by the way, to this weigh-in, in fact, only three countries out of five countries can come up, well, there are three winners that retain sovereignty, because the second sign is here this un hut i think further in the new system in the new system of world order. this will be the most important sign, in addition to strength, there are nuclear weapons and everything else, and sovereign the status is completely so out of all of the bn-on only three have america russia china and these countries have come to this weighing. this is a terrible period of history, because everything fluctuates yes, but as it turned out, it is impossible to bypass it. well, it’s also impossible to exclude russia from the united nations because the mechanisms as such do not exist and there was no precedent and precedent,

and i’m afraid to collide. they disagree with the hmm collective, because after all , uh, well, we need to collect enough votes. i'm afraid that a huge number of countries today will oppose this, especially china if we are talking about the un security council and the chinese are not fools. they understand that well, if such a precedent is organized, then the next one will be the chinese from china taiwan china in general, in this sense. clearly, he will definitely take a position against. as for fukuyama, about which mr. lavrov said, here is the whole situation, which today, 30 years after this work saw the light of day yes, the end of the story, it indicates that well fukuyama, uh, was fundamentally wrong and there is another interesting detail. few people talk about it. if he speaks at all, that's up to this book. yes, that's the end of the story last man. there was also an article by the national interest. it was also called the end of history, but

it was also postulated there that everything was victory, that's the liberalism of the alternative. no, the workers of the united states won the cold war, which means it was won. this article appeared in 1989, a year after iran ended the iraqi war, others iran then freys fukuyama, of course, did not paid attention. why because it was a country that just emerged from this fire. yes, from this of this blood for 8 years, you understand, there was a war, but it was in this fire that the iranian steel was tempered today, who gives the heat. and what tandem today is tearing all uh editorials all n- all front pages all all news releases in the west and early iran and russia iran and russia here, please, don't say gop until you jump over. and this is, uh, today, repeating 30 years later. well , obviously, quite simply. eh, you can go there too. add india by my aforementioned china

so no, dear friends. everything, but it is very important i will finish. they also understand everything that i say for this one, it's banal. in fact, they understand everything and they speak directly, i read the ukrainian press today, they collected analytical comments from all kinds of experts, that it is enough for us that this discussion has arisen, as such? we don't expect any results. this is also not understood by the information war, of course. excuse me, abbas, but they are morons, you know? why because you answered this question. ask for an exception. ah, a member of the security council. he even theoretically, of course, how will they react for this? china of course here you are preliminary. here is what i want to end with, he will literally say the next one. who raises such a question does not have the right to exist 100%. here. well, it's like a podolak said that he was going to attack iran well , iran said it correctly anyway. well, well, with all

the direct frankness of wisdom, so to speak. yes , centuries-old he said, okay, we're considering. it's like official. state statement of ukraine i would be terribly tense about this, because in fact podoliak told ukraine a war with iran iran considers it so he said, this is a direct text. that's what happened, the same thing will happen with the information podoliak, he fought informationally against iran, he waved a rag and shouted now we will bomb the march of the factories. instead of informational waving with a rag, i received a direct unambiguous one. a position that says we have all heard what we will do, we will decide when we need it. and you are sitting there in my kiev, so i’ll literally finish half a minute, and there their analysts will be right there.

they say that it is enough for us that such a discussion has arisen at all, it has become possible, they say. this is our lesson to all tyrants. they're really guys, what are you doing? you are simply questioning. uh, the very existence of the un, we here in this studio are constantly talking about how it has somehow exhausted itself. and now you are proving this thesis. you will lead to nothing of what you want, you will lead, straight back. well, that's what today does, in basically, a collective smell. uh, europe is a vivid demonstration of this. yes, that's interesting about information wars. and in general, about all this is now stirred up in the west. uh, remember, yes, we even discussed. here in the program there was such rubbish. i mean, not a composer, but a pmc , yes, which is an anti-bug, well, which is the motive well, we said, in my opinion, 10 days ago, that the anti-wagner came out and said, all the guys, i fought with the wind off. well, the cap is complete. i didn’t agree on all this at all, but he

came back there and continued it without any information war. it's just sitting and drinking. and so to speak, the fighters recalled the past days, look. cerebral palsy ukraine is a corrupt, washed-up society. i'm not a fan of ukraine at all, ukrainians violate the hague conventions. i forgot the exact wording, but we have carefully studied this issue. according to the terminology, what attracts the attention of the media and blah blah blah ukrainians violate it is me, but no, ukrainians film a number of things that they do with prisoners. it violates the laws of warfare and the laws of war.

i like her usa was connected with any force carried away in cruelty or anything else, the end is mysterious. of course, we will not stop supporting ukraine, these are more expensive. this is cruelty. it is still present, you can’t kill the guys who were captured, everyone knows about this, there are a lot of such cases, so i want to say that it’s not about ukraine finished people, this is not the point in

international norms. well, actually, how it all fits in one bottle. well it's hard to say yes, but materials in the same place everything begins, the very first phrase. i says the gagarian conventions studied. i don’t remember anything now, but it seems to say that you can’t shoot. it does not say that you cannot torture and kill. it says about geneva no, well, he said, i meant geneva. yes. and i said, in general, eiders. that's because it's, well, uh, here, he says, it says that you can't shoot. about the fact that it is impossible to humiliate torturing it is impossible to shoot it is impossible he did not read. he

knows where it comes from, that it is impossible to shoot. where another from the sofa suggests. well, because before, you know, if it became publicly known that we were torturing and humiliating, then there were troubles. we have an internal organization. say he's trying to torture and kill. well, so that no one knows about it. that's how you can, but these ukrainian morons can't. well, moron, by the way, it does not display the word finished. well , this is a translation there, they finished reading word by word, a great depth of attitude towards ukrainian leaders. it’s impossible, it will be absolutely inaccurate analogue if it is brought here. well, in general, i want to say that i love mozart very much, but not all things by mozart can be listened to, so listen to me about this video. dima, what a pathetic steinmail? well, when i show it already there, let 's see. well, it just

ends all the words on this now now hold yourself now we will show that she is much more important than us, but it must be a just world that will not reward the seizure of land and will not leave the people of ukraine to the mercy and violence of the occupiers for as long as until he comes to peace humanity demands, so that you help those who are attacked by threats and in children. in this way. we also kindle the light of hope for you cancers of injustice. dear compatriots you are also feeling the consequences of this war, especially the economic consequences. yes, these are tough times. we stand in a headwind, and yet christmas is a particularly good time to look at what gives us confidence, and it exists ukraine declares itself with great courage europe

stands together. so i want to joke knovovski. in what way is it not even hypocrisy. well, first of all, let's start with the fact that when hmm steinmeier speaks before christmas and addresses the german people. this is what i want to remind the german people. it's not just christians. this is about 10 million muslims living in the country, and he addresses, as it were, like, all the person who turns to christmas and starts talking about saints some things a day before or two before that he or his others . the lgbt also calmly talks, forgetting that such are actually christian values, they distort the concept of christmas, trying to shove anything into it and referring to the german people. he seems to be saying, well, look, here, this holy day, everything will happen. eh, christ and all, that and all. we 'll be great. here we should thank ukraine for this, because ukraine bears.

we are light, what is he talking about, what is the president of the country talking about the federal president of the country, who, firstly, does not have the right to make political statements, as is customary in germany. second, when he says some things, then they must be backed up by something, but thirdly, if we talk about his, uh, this appeal, then in parallel with this, the german press. all of a sudden it starts posting. you know what plan, and you know, in winter, some animals, when it's cold, they hibernate, and other animals. they shrink so coexist that there for snoring is heard. these are burgers. in my opinion, yes, if you understand, here comes the president of the country, who starts talking instead of talking about how the country will survive, how people can work out how to eventually integrate the same ones. uh, refugees are nothing. no , we are talking only about ukraine well, then i would like to ask him one question. but if you care so much for ukraine but then remember all the other wars that are now going on in this world, in which you took part, including

germany, maybe not directly, but through nato africa in the united states of america let's remember. let's remember what is happening in the middle east ukraine is above all. that's what she says about germany yugoslavia yugoslavia is completely german position the whole way of conducting the operation is fully motivated. the german started the afghan. they were afghans, they were not in iraq, they were in iraq , they were in afghanistan, they were in raspberries, they were bolivians, they acted together with joy. well, so well, actually, well, you know, i'm different. that's not the fact that christians are diverse muslims even from a christian point of view, but here's the light of hope, well, biblical christian language is the light of the star of bethlehem, which heralded the birth of jesus well, that's understandable. and right here he comes out and tells all christians hope

is no longer associated with the light and the client star. it is connected with ukraine well, i 'm talking in russia. this is anti-christianity in its purest form, this is the christmas greeting of the federal president, the christmas sterilization of the country. we have already talked about this with you, to be honest, there is not enough word. so, i wanted to return to our meeting, the cis means, here, belarus means russia and here it was said that 40 billion. yes, the trade turnover means belarus yes, then look at october was russia said that all economic issues have been resolved, that is, political decisions already have economic life and pay attention to 27 years of the union state and only now this situation has been resolved for 27 years. the union says, but we remember that lukashenka was dismantled

when he became the president of belarus who signed an alliance agreement with naeltsin's russia europe demonized lukasik to do something dictator the last dictator of europe naturally. europe closed all its borders to belarus, so all belarusian goods went, therefore, to russia but the central republic here is open for and they are very careful not to fall under the evil sanctions of the west. lukashenka has nothing to be afraid of and everything is closed. you see, nothing threatens him, because everything is already uh, the train has passed, so, and here they are, so they are even in some places. they comply with these very sanctions. some places. this means they are softening their position, and in relation to the west, in some places they allegedly show. see my russia somehow resist. look, we sometimes take such steps, there and so on. here. and this why because 10 years, the yeltsin era? russia was also built in, this was the western world, so everything is there for russia by steam locomotive went there. this means that the locomotive

has stopped in different ways, and the inversion leads all the rest, because they have not stopped yet, and therefore, in connection with this, it means, uh, it is still going, if i say russia belarus for 27 years, how long did the cis have to go together, to solve all these economic issues that will allow them to trade each other so smoothly and very effectively and today here is the meeting armenian example. to inspire me a little. well, to say confidence or uncertainty or hope that the situation that has developed today in the gorno-karabakh republic in latin, how to resolve it? this is because our peacekeepers there remained hostages , hostages of politics, which need to be resolved, it is not their business to open the corridor that everyone requires them to do to protect security, but there is a political one, but circles that should resolve this issue. and here e two days ago they are peacekeepers to the inhabitants. and this the republics were promised to the armenians that in two days it would be open, because they

meet here in st. petersburg and this problem will be resolved at this meeting. i very much hope that this issue will be resolved today, because there is no need to supply a billion peacekeepers, they are there, which means they honestly and conscientiously fulfill their duties, so the politician needs to decide to open this blockade. i think that we won't need 27 years to speed up the process in the cis in twenty-second year, what was the important opening? window of opportunity why we are for these months, belarus-russia so quickly settled many issues, the situation requires it. we do not even pay attention to any signed agreements, we go from life, and it dictates its own terms. the same will inevitably happen in the cis and the frequency of meetings between putin lukashenko and his colleagues. see we talked about symbolism. they even come in the same car, showing how close the positions are and leaving close and say, guys. pull up. to you. it is beneficial, armenia is a concrete example, if pashinyan were from the eighteenth year. let's get straight let's say, it did not slow down the process of

armenia's integration, and within the framework of the cst and within the framework of the eurasian union, armenia would not now face such challenges for its statehood. the further the states of the post-soviet space move away from russia, the greater the threats to their independence and their sovereignty. and what points of armenia were violated? i'm not talking about the fact that she violated, uh, paradise. first of all, there was nothing about the fact that something, somewhere, was violated. yes , i’ve been right for 27 years, you said, you need to understand that when e was concluded treaty on a union state in the mid -nineties, yes, and the second of april. moreover, by the way, not only did the processes of degradation and disintegration accelerate, but at that time it was all, uh, concluded. and then at some point. they have stopped you. according to my feelings, somewhere in the 2000s yes

, the process of decay degradation was stopped, and then because they were stopped. it was also necessary to go to other things that should set the inverse creative vector. well, it is clear that all this is not fast. here is another it is clear that everyone will have to self-determine. here, in this new picture, a world will come, which will have to self-determine, and well, it will not work to eliminate itself. where will you join that's all, then you'll be look at the beginning of our conversation. well, i 'll be just brief, because i'm looking at what is happening now in central asia in general , here in the cis and well, it's a rather alarming situation, because i see that the leaders. uh, some states believe that they do not need to adjoin anyone, they can look quite calmly organically on two chairs recently, for example, the head of the ministry of foreign affairs, uh, kazakhstan yes, i said, they say, i will not help russia

overcome sanctions. well, we will not join them either. i don't really understand why this statement was made at all. does anyone in their right mind really believe that russia is asking kazakhstan to help russia overcome the sanctions, do n't we understand. in which category, in which kazakhstan, and so on, do you understand what to do? maybe me, too, i turned out to be looking at me. well, that's kind of annoying. yes it is always normal for a human reaction, but at the same time you need to understand, once again i say again, yes, what heaven said correctly. well, yes it was. which was such a trend and russia was in it, we were together with the west. we have deep historical ties. there were many things. well, what is the alternative if russia goes west? well, all other countries are also going back. by the way, i heard this a lot of times, including in ukraine from the president, and in other countries from various high positions.

well, we're all going west together. you go and we're going west. well, if we are going in the same direction, then we don’t have to follow you right? listen, and we will go and try on our own. that 's all, well, argued, so to speak, overturn. it is not an easy task to be very unforgiving, which is paralleled by our western colleagues. well, the same france, the same wedges are active, are seduced, tempted, and divide and conquer. well, that's all. what is it from under these conditions yes, that's why i am now calmly looking at the post-soviet space in the sense that now there will be a difficult difficult time, it is desirable to go through it without additional conflicts. yes, and put out those that are . this is the time of self-determination in the new world and yes, strange. hmm well, it's coming somewhere. there are people from those times there are obligations.

there are views, they don't change so fast. yes there is. wait, there are more hegemons. quite alive, holding a carrot in one hand and a whip in the other. well, get a whip. uh, no one wants to be substituted in this sense, i don’t need anyone i justify and do not judge anyone. i roughly understand. all the complexity of the circumstances that have developed as a result, well, in the words of our president, the largest geopolitical catastrophe, because when he said this about the collapse of the soviet union, that’s how the word sounds like a geopolitical catastrophe, what is it? you understand everything from the caucasus to central asia and what was the path for russia from belarus, thank god, they taxied well done, but all the same, sometimes he stood at the gap between ukraine and what is happening there, this is a direct consequence of this. how

is this a direct expression of this very geopolitical disaster. that's all that happened there, thousands, victims and so on. this is a direct expression of this geopolitical catastrophe, so you can’t even put your paws together and talk here. let everything flow, but on the other hand, you need to understand that we really had to live in this way in the historical process that unfolds right for us. by countries by people in everything this happened, i absolutely do not criticize anyone and do not intend to. uh, don't stand on the wrong side. i'm just stating modestly. so, here there is a threat on the one hand emmanuel macron, means with uzbekistan for uzbek uranus there, uh, multibillion-dollar deals and so on, on the other hand. there is turkey, for example, in the same azerbaijan and turkish influence. thank you important thing. they said that this is a historical geopolitical one. now i will say the exit of the

russian empire to the border of the tien shan world. well, that is, the mountain line. yes, this asian one was caused by the fact that it was necessary to meet great britain with all its big game there on the mountain range. this was the situation of the 18th and 19th centuries. in this sense, i would like to our comrades and brothers in the soviet union the central asian said that the next big game will not be in the uk or america. you have emerging, resurgent empires. iranian, turkish, chinese, and russian north empire . i mean, well, in the classic sense of the word. that is, how many nation -states or over states. and this is the geopolitical reality they are uncle in washington yes china iran turkey russia this

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? and what a career growth now this lady went in bulgaria from ukraine. here it is the most beautiful main lever in your hands, even though you are on your knees. listen to this here slogan ukrainian warmth, fucking control yourself . i just read. i just read. and you are talking about a petition about the rationale for how to remove russia, that's where the diplomatic force is. well, already to the end. here you will enjoy listening to it. according to our grandfather freud, we have two drives. this is to death to life. that is libido. and martina that is, it is libido, swan-like energy. she is the energy of money, yes, the energy of movement, that is, the energy of forward, happiness, there are passions and everything, and everything is closely friend and as if we have some we and we don't go between them, so it seems

that this is about sex and escaped, because it was connected with money. this is markida's libido - this is the 21st century just a year ago. and a year later you already went madam. i'm gorgeous. i count your hands on your knees, and i managed to say again, control yourself. that's because i'm discussing something else now. uh, a powerful diplomatic school. deep knowledge of the geopolitical history of states, the history of international relations of states will be promoted. here i think that with all this set, yes, which i have listed. they are what you were thinking, she owns the perfection of the history of international relations, not gio's economics. well, that's it, it's simple. well, unless it means a person who is not prepared according to the word, this is impossible, because you understand, i am

not a woman, i am a woman, no woman. in this case, yes, if we're talking about professionally, and then of course embarrassing. if with such a word, yes or well, you allow it, it is from t-2, because uh, i read her carefully uh, creative merits, where she studied, that she graduated, moreover, i track this situation in ukraine there are people who also do not like in ukraine say. what are you doing minister of foreign affairs ask a question petition write father writes that wait a minute the man is finished. eh, it is not necessary to have an institute to work successfully, that is nonsense, you understand, i will speak in my own words forever, call in my own words. well , what the hell do i ask for forgiveness to take a girl from krivoy rog who understands there that everything has already ended everywhere for us, there are no things. well, you know, well, then i just

when in a gaspencule, according to which, well, i understand that he is here, as if he was forced to do something, you will justify something, you will tell something, because like. that's how you say. that's serious. yes, this is the same decision as the exclusion of russia, you understand this one, like, why did you add? i once, when zelensky became the president of ukraine, i looked at it this way. well, at least it will be fun for us , that's what it came in, yes, not fun. and now, and now you already know, this is already below the plinth. eh, i say it again, it's not mine my statement has nothing to do with a woman. i say, as a citizen of ukraine, that i really like the fact that bulgaria will represent our country. eh, a person without corresponding education without experience, on the contrary, with a different experience. yes, and then with great opportunities they understand this. well, what can i say, maybe at the conservatory to send? maybe, indeed, krivoy rog , instead of such a rotten place, where such shots come from. well, if we are serious, then in

general. and what does it first of all say, vasil says, to someone on ukraine does not like it, and this is the meaning of not only ukrainian, but also european policy in recent years. and you never know what you don’t like is called, that is, people are already just in general, uh, people of politics always focus on the source of power sources of power in classical politics, there are only two, but the source of power. he is the source of sovereignty. this is either the lord god, that's how the anointed ones of the church were especially after the french revolution. these are the people, these guys have a source of power the people are a little different, who live on a capitalist hill on the other side of the ocean. it is important for them to be decent in front of them, but in front of you, who are you in front of the people of ukraine, where the source of power is located, the source of power is overseas, because of this, these are hired managers. and you, in fact, cannon fodder, nothing more. well, you showed

an interview with sergei viktorovich lavrov. yes , the tass agency. that's just a comprehensive description of all these connections with dmitry yes , which you say is the only one. in my opinion. a question was asked about our relations with the european union. here in my opinion. i am he would have come out much tougher here, because he said that when they sober up, when they come to their senses, then we will start a dialogue with them, in my opinion, we should not give such a chance even in the situation in which we are now why because well, imagine a child misbehaves there, and we tell him, now you will behave well, when you start to enter him without a new year's gift or uh, the husband says to his wife, that's when you stop going right to left there. here we will have a strong family with you, that is, well, when such a thing has already happened the situation is such a mess. eh, you should probably not leave any chances. only yes probably, the fear will come. yes, they blew up the nord stream. well, that's okay. we are there, uh, we will build a gas hub in turkey, we must already make it clear that there are no guys. all of us now have technological sovereignty and are now designed only for themselves. here you are bad. th

specialist, you don't understand the word sober up, key you try drunk? prove that he did something nasty. focus punish the drunk. well , put it in a corner to evaporate, especially channel in drobotan to white fever. that's because the word will sober up. well said the ministry of foreign affairs. here the key could be said tougher, well , after all, well, sergei viktorovich is definitely a diplomat, you understand all the stories, that's because you could enjoy and say the european union is in a sane state. she's not sane. now, if he ever, well, comes to change, and then i'm ready to say something to him, because you can't say something to the insane or drunk inside, that you can't deal with him absolutely no influence, but now i will add my own forecast, and the european union as a structure

will not sober up, it will never die yet. so maybe we shouldn't have oil , the electric power industry, and our women are the most beautiful in russia. therefore, we do n't need anything from you in the european union, dear. we have technological sovereignty, we will now build a car and factories and that's it. we will succeed, you know the european union. i think this is what was said, but when the question arises that the hegemon has sharply decreased hegemony, this is what can be selected there, and who what state will it be in? this is a big problem that needs to be addressed. but no one will definitely select the european union. i think he has no prospects at all, you know, the state actually. these are very complex structures, a very complex structure. it must be managed. these are skillful people, therefore, especially when it comes to foreign policy. this should be a man with aerobatics to own the law of geopolitics. good to know the history of the country and so on. that is, this is the aerobatics

of government. yes, so there the most selective ones go, and so on after the divorce, the collapse of the soviet union, where the americans decided that it was no longer necessary. these people need to be destroyed by the state. with confidence is not necessary, neither the people nor the state is organized. and this globalization implies the destruction of any organized system of ukraine on this path, so clowns are brought in, sexologists are brought in, and so on. why was it intended in bulgaria? i'll tell you, she will take everything and the sex industry, since control through this means her zelensky will withdraw ukrainian girls on these panels under the strict control of a fellow sexologist. here they are. what will business, the state, have nothing to do with it? yes, i see, here you are a political scientist. you are interesting, but a businessman called the ability of demand in bulgaria fell extremely low for such a thing. by the way, bulgaria is also

related to this scandal, because it was the young lady who received grima, yes, that is, she agreed to such a wonderful specialist as an ambassador, but our main message is that, that is, we don’t need to hang up labels to the ukrainian side, but simply to show who they are today, that is, they are a state that comes from a coup d'etat , a state that used means the armed forces against its population , a state in which elections were held without regard, in general, entire regions were cut off from the right to choose. yes, that is, therefore, accordingly, this power that is located there, it cannot recognize. it is not that this will help to challenge the status of russia; in principle, it cannot be represented the international arena in any capacity, because this power is absolutely puppet controlled, and it did not receive its own agriman from the ukrainian people, at least, and this did not happen. she simply rented out this people and this territory, and today she is

suffering because of this people, so this is power. it is not that it is unworthy of negotiations, it is worthy of just consideration. they should be on the bench, defendants on the podium - in the international tribunal. this is the main direction that the ukrainian power and its respective qualifications. need the same way. we talked about fukuyama today, of course, we don’t share his ideology in any way, but he described the current situation and there that even after the end of history , it may appear. after all, the shan word was used by the last person who will fight for the sake of fighting. here, the west is a very strong opponent. they don't believe that we have any ideas. they think that we just rebelled, we are fighting for the sake of fighting, and this is the last person for them, who is putin. that's what lavrov was talking about, they are already openly threatening with the physical elimination of vladimir putin as well. what is the same as they did in relation to alexander lukashenko when their color revolution failed with us and they will go to the end. this girl here. this is evidence. which is also not a symbol, there are no rules, no principles. we will

break all all the traditions, and in relation to us they will break all the rules that is their main line now. yes, they will violate, but on the other hand, you know how everything is also successful took shape. here, in principle, they celebrated the victory in the ninety-first, the soviet union was announced to everyone, the world was now in our hands. the truth somehow began to be afraid right away, and in yugoslavia because of ismail and in the middle east it became so sick. well, like , it was like, it seems to be temporary, so, yes, here another problem came economy and a very serious problem. so, you know what's interesting, the posh country has a budget deficit of almost 4 tenths of a trillion dollars next year's deficit. e will be under two trillion and that will finally be next year, $34 trillion in

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