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tore behind the drainage channel variativnikova viktor barmina anastasia roev and anton sitnikov news all the news is always available on the media platform . see you. good afternoon. this is a program of who is against on channel russia 1 and in the studio of dmitry kulikov , the swiss authorities have obliged hundreds of ukrainian refugees to sell their cars. if they do not want to be left without benefits, car owners told the press that they would rather return to their homeland or go to another country
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than agree to this german channel zdf reports that the german reconnaissance ship was in the area undermining the northern streams on september 7 to september 14, what he did there is unknown , it should be assumed that he was probably following a group of ukrainian saboteurs and their yacht, however, other versions are possible. here the washington post writes that the united states could not have blown up the nord stream, because they would have blown up all four lines for sure. because they are super professional. chic argumentation , they say, a real professional killer solves the problem with one cartridge. if two then please do not blame the professional killer for the heated discussion in the american press. among politicians, the case of the fall of an american drone into the water of the black
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sea caused. in the first speeches, the americans discussed the professionalism of our pilots and the environmental consequences , they even promised to present a video, but for some reason this has not yet been done. here is what russian ambassador to the united states anatoly antonov said about the incident . such an aircraft will appear not far in france . you can imagine what the reaction of the americans will be quietly to such a target strike drone. a drone that can carry 1,700 kg of explosives tell me how
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the ministry of defense of any country will react if such a danger appears near the border of its state? well, anatoly antonov had to explain all this to the americans and the press. that's how why several different aspects. here's another look. i want to emphasize that the russian pilots acted very there was no professional contact; there was no use of any weapons by our fighters. and that this unmanned aerial vehicle, having made a sharp turn, crashed into space. i think it would be better to meet at the state department in order to discuss, uh, the problems of bilateral cooperation, the apparatus flew with
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transponders turned off, and it entered the zone, oh, which was determined to be a zone of a special military operation through international channels. we warned russia about this , i believe that this is a real provocation. this provoked us to do something . uh, after which it would be possible to blame russia for the russian military in any non- professional. in general, the russian federation was completely in its own right. here are all the essential aspects that no uh weapons no clashes. none of this was involved. that is why there is no need to arrange provocations at our borders. well, for me, uh. hmm, but the way our fighters work by extrusion. there is such a term. yes, e scout from our airspace is directly related to those events which the americans staged last
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week, sending b-52s to st. petersburg to carry out an imitation of a nuclear strike on our northern capital. well, most importantly, the american drone is still in the air, this joe biden. this is a real drone. here a man sits somewhere and regulates with levers what he will say, what, how, where he will turn, in which direction the connection sometimes flickers, so he sometimes does. not what the operator would like or is lagging behind. from this. there is such a joke, a connection - this is such a thing or it just happened or it will happen now. how about military music? yes, therefore. and what can i say here, but it is clear that we diplomatically stated everything that, as it were, and we should say this and that. we have to tell them this is our policy, nothing they have, their reaction was
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absolutely helpless. here lepit it was for children. well, he fell, he fell into the water. what else can you say yourself fell, they write that there was a collision. there was no collision, what else can be said about their comments, starting from the very first cycle, the headline. that's why don't say anything. they were headlines, fuck, you understand, yes, even the american press approached american politicians with such a question to shoot down our drone. what to do? what to do to shoot down yes, it was not necessary to shoot him down, because he himself fell. well, it's like, it seems to me, more precisely, after all, exactly a qualification from what happened to him here, but there is also a framework circumstance. well, of course, you can , unlike there, apply to international law. suddenly they spent remembered, if there is
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not everything, but in my opinion that side, which is not only not respected by symptomatic international law, but generally denies its applicability to it. already they are proclaiming the world based on the rules, they are directed to what on the rules that they will establish. well, such a country cannot and does not have. here's sorry for the pun right to enjoy the protection of international law. come on enjoy his patronage. first you have to admit. yes , not just not to violate, but it is necessary to recognize it, but if you do not recognize it, this is a conceptual level. well, therefore, he will continue to fall, when necessary. well i wonder how after all this noise, knocking down there, they damaged, the screw got hooked, which means, uh, rotating devices. here's what mr. ryder officially said, the official representative of the pentagon as for mq9, as i said? you know that he was in intelligence. this
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aircraft has been flying in the black sea for some time, including the period when it started, this is an important international water route, and therefore it is regularly in international airspace. this drone weapon did not have time. i will not go into the specifics of this particular flying operator, since you know q9, is able to make weapons. again, he was engaged in reconnaissance in international airspace . that's interesting about intelligence. i already said yesterday in the program of vladimir solovyov my point of view can be pursued even in accordance with the main right of intelligence from the international space. well, there's one nuance, damn it, when intelligence is used directly to conduct military operations against our country, because this intelligence is transmitted to strike.
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activities of sabotage and reconnaissance groups, and so on and so forth. this intelligence is not general intelligence that is not of direct military use right now. these are the ones that can be mined, and the ones that they mine are. here is the big difference. i am directly active in diplomacy, and at the highest level today in moscow, syrian president assad is expected by everyone. visit next week. uh , the chinese leader c is so expected that two people called me without saying a word. foreign journalists, colleagues, to find out on which particular day, because on that day they don’t have to go anywhere, there is a live broadcast and all that great interest. why is there such a huge interest in chinese diplomacy, but the fact is that this diplomacy won a big victory, and
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by the fact that beijing agreed to restore relations and restore diplomatic relations between iran and saudi arabia, two key players in the middle east region, where traditionally the main influence the united states had and then china americans. it is so clearly ousted from this region and, in general, everyone is now waiting, that there may be some kind of chinese initiative. already during his visit to moscow after his visit to moscow, he is also going to europe there and maybe zelensky will even talk on the phone and, er, the cherry on the cake today came the news. it may seem so local, although very symbolic in fact, but recalls. uh, recognition of taiwan is one of the many countries that have recognized. yes, it was 14, from this it happens thirteen, that is, always for exactly so far, that
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they declared that they were ready to establish diplomatic relations with the people's republic of china. i explain what this means. yes, what should there be a gap automatically implies, because there is not a single country that would have diplomatic relations from china if everything with china means everything with taiwan, and the americans in the past perceived such steps of a third state very painfully, when before that you the other, central american country el salvador, the americans did the same thing ago. well, in my opinion. uh such as the comical dimash , summoning salvador to the state department and declaring his dissatisfaction with him. despite the fact that the united states itself recognizes that china, they are taiwan, they are not in this list of the thirteen remaining states. in general, this is so far honduras honduras guatemala - these are two. uh, the state, central america , which has always traditionally adhered to the most about
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the american position, and if china managed to drive a wedge there, then, in general , it’s really possible that something in the world is changing, our westerners might think partners and is following comrade xi's visit to the russian federation doubly more closely , yes. and i can say one thing, well, yes, one simple thesis, but a very important one, china said and confirmed by deed that it will be engaged in world politics. he hasn't done it for 200 years. and now he said, we will be engaged in world politics, we haven’t done it before, and now we will because life has forced us. well, it’s interesting how the story with this drone is assessed in the united states too, because um. well, of course, two camps. yes, there are mountain ash and one that is so to say it is associated with trump, who says more and more that, well, we will come to a third world war. and in the history of drones, they evaluate, by the way, not about
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the american ones in this direction. look what he said. uh, congressman getz. today's loss of mq9 raptor vs usa in the black sea once again reminded us of the insidious reality of our participation in the russian-ukrainian war, the united states of america has already spent more than 100 billion to help ukraine now we are losing precious american technology worth hundreds million dollars such as mq9 tractor. uh, he's not a raptor of course, reaper. sorry , i already made a mistake once. yes, it is impossible to ignore the dire risks of an all-out war with russia as we teeter on the brink of direct conflict once again urging joe biden to end our involvement in this war before the count of dollars lost in this conflict turns into a count of american deaths in ukraine well, tough and political very. well, he formulated it. uh, trump jr.
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reacted. uh, also on my twitter from the united states issued a statement that the venus of the russian aircraft in reckless environmental and safe and professional action is environmentally unsafe. that's what they're worried about, not start a third world war. this position has been formed here, well, there is, of course, and, uh, the other side, even within the republican party. clearly no one expected anything else. you are a brown-haired woman, what should be the answer. we need to hold them accountable by saying that when you get close to another one flying into international waters. your plane will be shot down to make ronald reagan a similar situation. he would shoot down russian planes if they threatened our property, well, firstly, a man, of course, in vain so on ronald reagan.
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that's because the dreygan motherland, with all its absolute soviet fairy tale, and under his rule of conflict situations, there were more than enough of nothing soviet, but the position of mr. crimea is understandably interesting. do you know the last word that was said to our property is not our dignity, nor our state in our property. that is, he even noticed it. yes, we are talking about the financial side of this business. well , you know, while there we are talking about a drone here, right here. you said today, uh! the scout was in the zone of explosions of nord stream 2 was there on the 7th to 14th. and this ship is very serious, it is called the eye of the bundeswehr. this is such a so-called ship of the so-called cold class, which has all the means of both electronic protection and electronic suppression. and that's what they there did at that time a big question one version. they certainly can now try.
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here is the false trail that has already been thrown out by the ukrainian trace to say, but it’s just that they provided it, so there were ukrainians, but another more likely version is that after all, uh, there was such a preliminary control, what does he say, by the way, the flight of peter grizzim on the fourth day, that is, it is approximately at the same time, preliminary control of this place. they inspected they did control of the water area before this was to happen. i don’t approve of this version, but theoretically finding this particular ship at that time has no other logic. of course, they are constantly there in some zones, but when in the same place converge beaten, of course, or the dead ss on and what - something incomprehensible andromeda and a ship of the sharp class, which is located in the same place, and then suddenly everything explodes, you ask yourself a question. and what the hell were they doing all together at the same time. well, except for the nord stream, uh, 1.2 no answer. well, by the way, going back to the washington post when they say that the americans would have blown up all four. they would be fantastic.
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yes, like this, well, it's just generally even talking about it, how ridiculous, but this can only be answered one thing, and not on purpose one was not blown up, so that later you can say that it's not mine, because if we blew everything up, a you know, san da, in such versions. well, there is no limit. yes, i know that you know that i know, but i know that you know that i know the stairway to heaven is absolutely endless, but here's the interesting thing about what you're discussing. yesterday the president of russia asked a question. pavel zarubin touched, yes. there was a nuance to the northern streams, such a column, but under water, well, let's remember what the president said, it's very difficult for us to do our own investigation if she doesn't let us into the place. uh, this terrorist attack is what it is a terrorist attack already. well, for whom it's not a secret, in my opinion, it was recognized by all of yours , moreover, a terrorist attack at the state level, because no, uh,
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no fans of such an action can commit, but nevertheless, some time ago. uh, since the explosion took place in an esk, a special economic zone exclusively for the economic zone, nevertheless, we got gazprom permission from the authorities to investigate the site of the explosion. well, not limited to research. the vessel rented by gazprom went further along the heating site, and the vessel leased by gazprom went further and at a distance of about 30 km from the explosion site. uh, a column was discovered that stood in such a same uh place where the explosion occurred. a. and what kind of place is this, the most vulnerable point of the gas pipeline, the most vulnerable point
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of the gas pipeline. this is a joint. uh, junction, here and there uh, there it was discovered. uh, bollards in this place. uh, experts think that it could be an antenna to receive a signal to actuate anyway its device, which can be argued it can be laid under another wired system and now, of course, uh we would like to get permission from the board of authorities to ensure that independently or together with them, a better, by forming an international team of experts and blasters who can work at such a depth to carry out the necessary surveys. and if necessary, and defuse this explosive device, if it is there, of course, but on our request to the
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danish authorities, we received an answer that they themselves should probably think something, but when they sympathize with the possible, they will give us answers , but such an indefinite uh, well, yes , certainty has not increased. although information. for example, the german ship was eleven miles away, 11 miles from this place. this, in my opinion, is approximately 18 or 19 km / h. yes, approximately, that is, approximately. uh, putin is talking about thirty kilometers, but the ship was somewhere in the area. but look interesting before priz reacted to this. well, at the same time, uh, she wrote to the press with reference to the minister of foreign affairs. yes they are the danish foreign minister confirmed that the russian gas company gazprom has discovered a facility near the gas pipeline, nord stream 2. although he did not say anything about what it could be, well, that is, there is an object. yes, there are other versions
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sounded, he now does not pose a danger now. but imagine you can’t imagine , or are you a ufo, what is it at all? well , in general, you can probably say that this is water, what is it? this is an object, you know, an unidentified underwater object. come on, well, in general, the topic of gas flows could not be hushed up. let's start with this. that is, the theme is the other way around. every day. they talk, talk about it and not only putin and other people. they say that the reaction of the americans is certainly funny, but again, this is a reaction, it is again, someone is forcing them, which means making excuses or switching arrows , while if we talk about ukraine , they don’t stick a finger at ukraine anymore, but it’s already good that, at least, they don’t blame ukraine for this, you understand, because that the version that was in these three newspapers, that these are some kind of ukrainian amateurs, but it is. they are funny, at least no one is talking
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about ukraine even more. i see some kind of imbalance lately, especially informational imbalance in that the western press is talking about ukraine and what is actually happening in ukraine well, let's start with the fact that when the dutch press said today, there was an article that things on the front near the bakhmat in ukraine are very bad, because untrained servicemen are losing a lot the number of dead and wounded, that is, and again they bring. thoughts that and why zelensky still keeps bafmut, why he does not give the command to leave bakhmut, but there are other sources that say something like the same thing, but here in ukraine inside opposite zelensky yesterday. he said that we will strengthen the position of bang, we will support the bafma. that is, well, let's say, you know, how would the impression that the americans. they say listen. maybe you will withdraw your troops after all, maybe you will save the army, maybe you will save
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those armed forces and the second. even the arrest officer himself was discharged with an article that he said that, well, yes, our affected forces are not in such good condition as before, because, well, many have been killed. many. well, you know, well, yes, but there is more to quote, but why what, he, as a rule, justified these things. and here he more or less objectively wrote that it was really those new or fresh forces that the ukrainian armed forces serve in the army and they were sent to bakhmut. they are not ready. they are trained themselves, so this also indirectly confirms that ukraine, unfortunately, is losing more and more military bahmatis. well, the second, for example, the pope i liked it, finally at least someone well, and even more so myself the pope drew attention to the fact that some kind of, well, let's put it mildly, as he said. or, first of all, two questions. why did he draw so late and why did he draw so took, because here is from his statement.
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i never understood. he urged how to respect the places for monetny i also drew attention to this, that you know this , like this, open the door, if they want to pray in the temple, this is not about that , it’s not about someone closing door talking about being expelled from the temple and the main main monks are expelled from the temple and the leaders of the church itself are expelled, so it seems to me that it’s like not me every ukraine is not you. not ours, yes, that is, he kind of half did something. this is a statement, and it 's not what it's for. remember, his extremely statement about the conflict was such that i want to go to kiev, but if to moscow, but if only to kiev, then they go to moscow, then i won’t go, that is, he has recently had some memorable statements and there is no age age. i think that's not the point. i already age right, the fact is that half, that is, and not the first time this is not
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a balance. it's not balancing, you know? you know this is my hut on the edge. that is, i kind of say something, but do nothing. i do not want, having such authority. he nevertheless made a statement in parallel with this, but that in ukraine there is not just a conflict with the russian ukrainian. and this is the third world war, where the empire is fighting, that is, not only the russian empire. and that means it's still like this. well, of course, american, yes, that is, somewhere a person can say something more strongly, but as for the protection itself, here it is specific. here is the lavra, you know, where the kiev-pechersk lavra is the main temple, moreover, there is not one temple, there are several temples, where people, where orthodox people go to pray for about 1,000 years. yes, and before that it was a temple, where they also went to pray only uh, uh polytheists. and so, in ukraine, it's all about the dutch press for a statement. uh, p-p-uh, the pope reacts completely on the third how
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are you the third? well, for example, they say that mr. paratrooper, who spoke in favor of which might be cut. uh, the budget will cut funding today, the states of america yes, over time, he is invited to ukraine, they say. you are a landing. what are you even talking about? what the hell are you talking about? come to ukraine , we will show you everything. we'll tell you everything, it's great. all this was not said. well, then, i understand, because it's different. everything is perceived. i already said, here's uh my point of view on it yes. that's when the high throne of rome says that e lgbt is all, of course, a sin, but e to condemn for it doesn't follow. you understand this, after that you can look for the position of the christian faith , you can not look, it is lost. well, whatever , yes, so why be surprised here when
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taher carlson has a clearer and tougher position in america, you understand, on a television show on a television show with a tv presenter? the current situation, when the authorities are expelled by the monks from the monastery, which have existed since the 11th century and in the caves of which the saints are buried , such behavior does not befit a liberal democracy, so an idea is requested. there are those who considered zelensky especially that this person should be given every possible support, but they began to doubt some of his actions, to which we are now turning a blind eye and about which he is completely silent. well, at least there is much more clarity here, but if we develop the topic further along the church, it is actually obvious that zelensky decided, under the guise of this conflict , to finally cut the last connection between the ukrainian and russian people like an umbilical cord. yes, that is
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, before that they cut the historical ties language. here, uh, related to the general writers. now we have already reached the affairs of the church, and it is obvious that these decisions have nothing in common with faith in god, which they do not accept. this model of building state orthodoxy is now being implemented, that is, pyotr alekseevich poroshenko began to do this, this is the so-called father of the ukrainian thomas, this one, which he received in istanbul, now i decided this line completely, uh, tighten up zelensky and and i very much doubt that there will be any then the resistance despite the fact that, just the same, the support of the ukrainian orthodox church is much greater in mainstream ukraine than this neoformation, which is headed by the official yes, yes, even when we saw a picture of how epiphany was brought to the lavra for the christmas liturgy. so there really was no order. yes, that is, this event was not very popular among the people of kiev , therefore, unfortunately, i think that they
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will even mutate this line, despite the fact that there is some kind of murmur of dissatisfied people in ukraine well and in principle nothing good from the point of view of the spiritual development of society, the same will not end. if i tell you, two words about, this, uh, a fallen drone, which is 56 million. right now , everything drowned at sea, because just in ukraine, i leafed through ukrainian publics like that. there, initially, there was a completely different expectation that, on the contrary, this would lead to an escalation of conflicts, along the line of washington , moscow and the white house are even more going to issue planes to ukraine, there are more and more weapons of all kinds, but in fact today cnn needs wrote that many republican circles believe that, on the contrary, the idea of ​​the same paratroopers and the same trump that something i need to stay away from this conflict and move on to ending it. she sat down even more in the heads so that there would be no collision. e in the style of some kind of caribbean crisis. well, for ukraine, this is understandable.
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by the way, if you pay attention to this. what is there, as it were, stormy joy? yes, now the americans are already american divisions will be parachuted onto this now we we'll show it to the russians, because why did they hook america itself, they hooked property. yes, uh, this, of course, uh, the hysteria is very massive, it is very indicative, you know, there was stormy joy. that, as the russians write, they shot down an american drone, so the ukrainian public rejoiced violently and was in a situation of exaltation. why because she thought that now america, uh, will let you down to fight with russia. yes, and then everything will be fine for ukraine. in this case , imagine what design mythologization of mass e-e consciousness in this
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construction. there is another very important equation. eh, it's undeniably free of charge, which have absolutely nothing to do near our shores, er, which fell. eh, there is this important point here, connected with it, that the americans immediately requested from the turkish republic the possibility of passing through the bosphorus dardanal in order to collect, uh, the remains of this non-embodied, permission has not yet been given. but this, after all, is to show us. the americans now do not have the opportunity to enter the black sea, and thus there is no way they wanted get. that turkey, as always, says not recently. yes, uh, that in her style from the word absolute always, and the second moment the americans began to react. yes, i supported this idea here. she is very correct , the americans began to react. they are not so much shaping as reacting, because, apparently, they have less and less resources in terms of the possibility of implementing foreign policy. and and against this background, there is only one very important one. eh, the moment everything else is their internal. case. god
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yes, this is what falling from the pedestal. you can say a lot of negative things. and, of course, the americans are here. u can do it, as for the rest of the world learning to live without america yes. and we see this in all the events that have already been mentioned today and the restoration of relations. yes, the creation is actually their uh, between iran and saudi arabia. in the new format , with the last stupino, no doubt. this is what is happening today. before our eyes, the fact that the president of syria is in moscow uh, what the meetings of the deputy heads of the ministry of foreign affairs will present, uh, ministry of foreign affairs, and turkey iran syria and russia a. this is actually the format that implies the gradual restoration of e-interaction between turkey and iran. and what is now the key problem the world is learning to live without america, this is all happening without them, not in spite of. and we do not act contrary, we do not act against, we
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do not unite against, we proceed from the fact that it is necessary to form a normal inclusive security and a normal system of international relations. oh, well, it’s interesting that not only the republican camp in america well, evaluate the negative consequences and so many democratic too, here, i wonder, it's uh, as the saying goes democrat. i found one fragment of one sentence worded correctly, but everything else was typical western propaganda, mainstream media and correct. the policy judges were said to be among the people guiding american military and foreign policy. disagreements about how much more support or weapons to send ukraine is so disagreement, there really are, but the fact is that ukraine has already lost this war. nato has already lost this war.
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russia will reach its desired goals in the next few months and not a single nato country will do anything to stop this so i don't know how much more senseless weapons to send, how stupid our military leadership is. russia
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yes maxim but i had my doubts. now there is no doubt left. this person cannot be a democratic congressman. first, can not congressman acting man of the chambers submit, let's interview. and what does day call kiev in the word regime to use puppets? i think it's a congressman of some state senator. well, maybe. i say, you say now. yes, thanks for the note. now let's check. i can as they say, well what is this man of the democratic camp. oh well, just, if specifically it's a mega-sensation. well, if just a democrat, it's just an interesting opinion. well , everything on this topic. ok then. now let's check. i could very well be wrong. if i may briefly return to the information, switzerland on what makes refugees sell their cars. uh, german swiss law is very similar. strictly speaking, the same in terms of social security.
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i'm surprised that it hasn't come to this yet, that is, a person who requests social assistance, and he was forced to undress himself , he is obliged, uh, to declare everything that he has, there are certain limits to what cars allow him to practically exclude , therefore, what switzerland has now begun it has nothing to do with love or with hatred for refugees. this is normal practice. if you have the means, you must first use them. after that, you have the right to some additional handouts from the budget, so if this practice is now her, using germany as well, i think a certain number of refugees will instantly rise to their feet and begin their movement. unknown. in which direction i flew on an airplane with one girl who fled from belarus to great britain. she flew with me on the same plane, i won’t say. what country is she she told me for a long time how good it is for those who escaped to live there. i say, well, in the end you have a good life there. and how do you live there? she says, well, the only problem is. when we
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gather in some circles, well, there on the forums of some we are still considered second-class people. i say, well , that means that this is the basis for believing that you live well there, but in terms of what we earn. we will earn well, but only as second- class people. e, maxim you were right? i was wrong, but i just always name the position from memory. yes, it's a democrat, indeed, a democrat candidate, governors of kentucky. i misnamed it. e congressman. so yes. well, that's all, the rest of the content is exactly as it is, but yes, but the sharpness of the presentation. uh, so to say, thank you, that's how the presentation should be exactly. that's because alexander is discussing about switzerland, there is still an interesting moment here, this banking crisis, yes, which is completely curious how it echoed in europe in europe, because the fall of e stock e, slime loan, well one of the biggest.
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banking yes, leading here is more than 20%, uh , french bnb reba, in my opinion, if i'm not mistaken, yes, uh, under 10%, 8 or something, percent. and so that echo is an american story, which is not for its own people. and what will happen in europe now waiting for the crisis? yes? here, it will most likely be for you. well, i think that it is still necessary according to the pope, who, without a mother, is on time. so, all the same , there should be no special ecumenical illusions from the point of view of orthodoxy. i'm straight suffocate these are heretics. they called themselves papal like that, which means, well, there was a very old period, when well, there was a single church , revered by us
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, the popes of rome, falls from mainstream orthodoxy, they have changed the dogmas so much that yes, unrecognizable. we just never get interested, because it says there they start counting. the desire to go to a catholic church does not arise. so their millennium policy was to to crush and destroy the orthodox world, that it should suddenly change because of some kind of ukraine well, there is an opportunity to add gasoline to this process, so that it burns brighter, well, they add such a thing, and how is it along with statements. and yet , you don’t know what they write with their very representative, what instructions they give, well , definitely not the ones that they publicly, but they announce this report and there is a big tradition. well, you know, i'll just explain what you said, and in general, you see, i formulated what is active
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discussed i don't, well, it's clear from this area of ​​confirmed data. yes, but it is being actively discussed, which, uh, the gentleman, who the so-called thomas uh, signed. yes , it is preparing to conclude another union. well, one way or another. yes, i do not know, i will not discuss all this. but when you say, and you are the thousand-year goal of fragmenting orthodoxy, including the crusades. well, that's all. subsequent, it would be surprising to know about it to think that, for example, uh, well, the throne would not want to, for example, and phanar, so to speak, is orthodoxy and the uniates of western ukraine. well, they somehow united, and they would have led all this. there's the main thing you can do amazing same cynicism. we must remember this. you can arrange rituals however you like. the main thing is you must recognize. do you recognize the power of the pope, do you do what you want with the rites of the popes?
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well, you see, i just want the audience to understand us, especially the russians, when yesterday the minister of culture of ukraine tkachenko spoke publicly and said the monarchy that lives in the kiev-pechersk lavra. you can there stay no questions no condition one you leave the ukrainian orthodox church. you write a statement to the bird or speak orally. you move on and stay there further, that is, the authorities have already made a decision , moreover, this new group has already been appointed, uh hmm, and uh, not by christ because they are not christ , they are here, you understand this and every day day after day this movement. this is happening in our eyes. and why am i saying? what, uh, yes, when yesterday patriarch kirill yes announced to the whole world that there is a problem, what is the problem must be solved in the collapse to everyone and the pope here starts this one correctly. you say z e, why would he need to maintain a
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simple scheme with you? continue directly with what yours says. uh, ukrainian minister of culture. he says, well, church leadership. everything is out. yes, there, here, and the monks can recognize bartholomew, well, along the chain through this scoundrel, who there in ukraine dug further to recognize bartholomew, and then all together with this chain. we will be friends with the pope, i will leave it in quotation marks. here, well, everything is clear. more on mine you understand before our eyes, when, to bartholomew, it was poroshenko's deal under the president. now wait maxim just nods. i can't help but react. you doubt that bartholomew will not not this whole thing i remember, as journalists, i always remember, an informational occasion. i realized that the reason for the information was the statement that the pope nevertheless condemned these actions. we have sound in the studio at
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the service station now i will finish such harsh statements, as if he just said today that this is monstrous and i am here i remember peter alekseevich poroshenko who told you, and put a trident over the kremlin. you say he's bad. eh, he's crooked . we now you know very well remind me of this person who is not dissatisfied and when it sounded in your fantasies. you remind poroshenko completely inappropriate comparison. by the way, in relation to all the audience maximum. well, you can't for a second. why not? why so sluggish? fine? what did he even say? imagine now a pole would be a dad, he would probably support. yes all the same, it’s good that they spat in my face , they could also give me a baton. yes oh, how good they just spat, or they could have hit him on the head. i don’t accept this, i won’t accept it, but i reacted immediately to the words. uh, vasily because i have my own position. i defend it.
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vasil said, well, like condemned, and i tell you or not, he did not cool. he said something about places. uh, i didn't condemn church service. this is serious worship. god that's what you understand correctly, you think ur condemned and are ready to worship him. and i say hit yulit, did not condemn anything. sergei adds pursuing his goals. here are two different positions and vasily, in my opinion, we will finish now and , in my opinion, vasily agreed that he did not actually condemn the point here i am forgive the position it doesn’t matter who understand what he said, you understand. i'm very happy. i argue a specific fact and its specific
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interpretation, this is what makes sense to discuss and they agree with the interpretation that the pope condemned the action of the ukrainian authorities did not condemn the cunning cunning pursued his goals. here is mine position just to finish, that we have the feeling that zelensky is under so much pressure on the current government, i don’t know, except for the united states of america, who is pressing? eh? why, when tom arrived with petro poroshenko , all this vasya ended was a question. and where is the bartholomew temple, where bartholomew will sit, you know where they gave mine to him? we have a wonderful st. andrew's church, wonderful, where, i believe, the apostle andrew said that there would be small towns here , they gave him this church. so please, here american church pizza for you, here. don't touch the lavra no, you still need to squeeze it out, you need to pick it up, you need to crush it. well, except for
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the united states of america, i don’t know who it is, maybe, and here it’s the half-heartedness of the pope or uncertainty. and it’s obvious that certainty, it only says, yes, yes , please, take it, take it, it ’s destroyed like that. well, you see, from top to bottom, this is a command from above to destroy the orthodox faith simply to the end. i think there will be protest. i have no doubt that there will be a protest, but this is a protest to my deep, unfortunately, it will simply tear ukraine apart. we will interrupt for advertising immediately after it, we will continue. turned on, herburg, not needed all the time. who needs a premiere on the russia channel urgently for examination. i am no longer a doctor. please wait, i'll handle
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start at 21:30 on channel russia 12 years ago malakhov today at 16:30 this is the program who is against on channel russia 1 we continue our discussion, and we will continue to talk about all the topics that we have outlined before, because , well , probably, there is not enough time to discuss all this, so to speak, it is possible to extend this circle of questions, but i just want to show a short one. uh, here is the state of the minister of defense of ukraine, here is some kind of sublime, very, probably, just against the background of all those losses the state of the army, which writes the western media this is what led to panareznikova, an exalted state. look.
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participants well, it's beautiful, though, he is waiting for a yellow-blue submarine, by the way, he sings an anecdote of my childhood about a submarine in the steppes of ukraine well, this probably exactly corresponds to the mental state of the rifleman. i have no other conclusions either, so the stories are short. well enchanting idiot. well, what will you take from him? i want to return to the topic that you discussed in relation to the northern flows. i want to remind you that undermining the northern streams was carried out on the night of 22 to 26 september. and the fact that one branch of the nord stream survived - it was not at all accidental that it was left as a reserve branch in case the americans are not able to fully physically provide europe with the volume of gases that they need as a result of the sanctions policy, and so on further. i mean, no one knew at the time. what will be the winter and freeze your partners. actually, for them, it's, well, not the best story, so for this very reason, one
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branch north. i’m leading the flow, what i’m leading to is that the argument of the americans is, they say, it’s not us, if we blew up, we would blow up all four branches, firstly, such a task was not set. secondly, the terrorist act achieved its goals in full in relation to the tasks that were set for those who blew up. uh, so to speak, these three branches of the nord stream are now about the ukrainian trace. and an oligarch. you know, dmitry, i want to tell you this: if this topic had been thrown in on time, it would have worked, if we let the topic of the ukrainian trace of the ukrainian oligarch was in the past on the eve of the elections. i even know an oligarch who would take on this responsibility. well, for example, pyotr alekseevich poroshenko, he would have gladly declared on the eve of the elections, it was he who blew up all three branches of the nord stream, and this was done without scuba gear. and in general, all this time, being in opposition. he was training. how should he dive to a depth of 70 m and undermine these northern 80, so in this doubt she just threw it at the wrong time
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it's this topic. absolutely not working well, i strongly disagree with you on one thing, which means that there is no scuba gear, because pyotr alekseevich loves to be photographed very much. and can you imagine if there were photos of him equipped, well, six cylinders on him. ah, those dives. here, well, you’re a pistol , well, that is, i personally marveled and dived in relation to the drone. you know, the topic, of course, is tasty for the republic for the republicans. i think they will swing this topic in the context of what america should not provoke and enter into this conflict and so on. but for democrats in general, it seems to me, well, it makes no sense to download this topic. why because against the background of those events that we witnessed in relation to the balloon, which was not shot down the first time and very expensive with a rocket of 500 almost 500 thousand dollars, well,
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tell us that the russians are beating. an american modern drone with a bucket of kerosene, but it seems to me that this is also such a story, you know, therefore, i think that, of course, this story will continue reaction. i have already reminded that we have entered such a period. uh, increased turbulence. we are actually on the eve of election campaigns in russia, ukraine and the united states of america. therefore , there will be such escalations, but i am a supporter of the fact that you know, this process needs to be accelerated somehow. well, the faster we reach the boiling point, after which we will either, you know, jointly unscrew this valve to release steam, or we will take off everything and this will all end, the faster. we'll get to this point faster discharge will be faster. that's what they say, better a terrible end than horror without end. you see, this is the main subject of philosophical discussions. that's because whether it is necessary to be faster or whether it is necessary to slow down the question is only in this.
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you see, this is not so obvious yes, but about what happened to this american drone, from the point of view of not even a journalist and certainly not a political scientist, which i am not, but still i looked at the reaction, yes, people in social networks, there and so on. and of course, uh, absolute uh, unity in taking the american side. no, this is my us, because uh, in fact, against the background of the lawlessness that the americans and the west are doing in general yes , undermining these northern flows, uh, those, uh, terrorist acts that were on our territory. oh, yes, there is a murder further than dugin and the explosion of the crimean bridge, and so on, while they also do it. yes, they begin to grimace about some kind of ukrainian partisans, who are supposedly there despite the fact that everyone understands everything. and of course, this is the story of thereby. e with a drone. he somehow gave the people the opportunity to exhale, so to speak, so he needs it. it would be nice to have another
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one as well. and in general, it shows that people would have reacted before. caution yes, because this is an escalation, because it is clear that something may follow, but in fact, apparently, they have already brought it to the point where people say, well, that's nice. well, this is about what spiridon is talking about. yes, that there is already a desire in some way, so that, well, at least already, well, the enemies decided, yes, so that they would stop hiding around the corner. yes, i looked at the commercial break, well, the news and i saw one version of me, it seemed insanely interesting that this drone could be one of the two that the americans transferred such drones to ukraine for a symbolic price of one dollar. you understand how all this unfolds in situations, because if ours see a drone, which may be ukrainian, but, naturally, they are there in the crimea at the first opportunity, that they will shoot down and give a damn about
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international. or not on international waters, that is, here it may make sense for american soldiers to enter into a dialogue with our general staff, and even if it is really an american drone , report this. this is a completely different level. that's interesting. and well, let's see, confirm for now what the americans said, our drone is the official representative of the pentagon, we don’t know intelligence and what we didn’t know, yes, if a quarter is a pilot, there are two of them and a ukrainian flies towards crimea, well, this one flew out of romania because , well, the movement is everything there, well, tempting tempting, but i think, that's the question now , the question of the temptation of such versions is not very relevant, because you see what's the matter. eh, well, here's a moment of clarification. so, too, he is waging
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war with russia. well, as it were, this clarity, he brings closer and closer. by the way, take note. yesterday , the president of russia made many comments on speeches and he said, i used to call them, well, partners are the enemy. this is our enemy, yes, well, so far we have not yet called the enemy. so who is really in fact, our opponents, who should be responsible for the murder of our dugin, as gia said for er, these very crossings in the bryansk region. well, ukraine is a performer there. we all understand this, at the very beginning you showed representatives of the middle state of america who said that this apparatus is a reconnaissance. he repeated twice. yes, it's a scout. you absolutely correctly noted that yes, intelligence is engaged, many are engaged in international intelligence, please, but how is this information used, how is kemi used it is not a secret that if ukraine had not been
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provided with a military conflict with russia, and there would have been no secured information from satellite reconnaissance vehicles. we would be just like blind kittens. this this this this would not be the war that we have today. it's a fact, and that's why this one remember there was a noise when uh hmm u lead uh, leader. e hmm as an american billionaire who, uh, put the link i'm sorry. yes, he said that i did, and i, uh, he generally wanted at first, uh, chop off. all that noise was in ukraine like you, father is throwing us at someone, what am i leading to, what is this incident? so you say that this incident between the us and the russian federation, yes. uh, adding fuel to the fire. and i say, but the conflict between ukraine and russia if such drones continue to fall, then the war in ukraine becomes pointless, it simply becomes
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pointless. here is the battle that is now going to bang and around bakhmut. this may be the last last battle. yes, this is what is happening now. uh, back to according to opponents yesterday, vladimir vladimirovich putin twice repeated the real word that this is our enemy, some kind of west, this is the united states of america, which is trying to pull us apart and jeopardize the very russian statehood. but what is fundamentally important here is that we are not friends against someone, but we are a self-sufficient civilization. and uh, the west today will continue to put pressure on probation. neutral state. such as turkey in this regard. now is a very important moment, connected with the fact that a visit is being made presidents of finland to turkey question entry into finland e. in nato is on the agenda. e. well, and, of course, pressure over the supply of so-called under sanctions, and goods to russia, turkey allowed the transit of these same goods in russia , there will be other issues pressure over which we again supply to turkey and
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many, many other important things that the west will not retreat to put pressure. yes, after all, on this kind of state. well, i would say the lack of response in terms of. this is also a kind of reaction to this downed infertility. yes and just such states in this context have shown that they do not want and do not or cannot and will not go to some kind of escalation with russia along this line, which naturally extremely outraged everyone who is in kiev, so they will create their own army of these drones there, in general , general krivonos said yesterday yes, who they called them people there and will try to send them there, as i understand it, deep into the russian federation. i want to correct vasily. this is not a drone. scout. this is a percussion besplonik, by the way, from such salim soleimani killed the lawless person. remember this general yes, who was destroyed on the territory of iraq, this is the iranian general on the territory, cancer. this is exactly such a drone, therefore, in any case, maxim is right. fight a drone that appears in
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a zone of conflict or carrying out its own poses a threat. and this is, of course, absolutely a reaction. it still needs to be said, thanks for bringing it down. actually, not there, uh, air strikes. yes , certain maneuvers, which led to the fact that the non-embodied himself practically fell. well, uh, on the water, so everything here saw him off at the same moment. well actually there is. uh , quite a concrete result of what happened in any case, military correspondents published our information that the commander-in-chief of nato forces in europe, uh, canceled for today. eh, everyone. there, three were planned to be knocked out of these same reapers of these vppl, uh, which one was supposed to fly towards the crimea, one to the side. uh, kaliningrad and one in the direction of lvov. here they were all canceled. this is already a result. i think yes, i think which, of course, the americans should think about after that. i think that a lot of people in the world will think about the same. what happened to
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the american drone. so, that an important significant event, he will still have circles on the water and not only from this very drone that fell into this very water. for today. i have everything right now, watch the news program and see you tomorrow. the information services of the russia tv channel continue to work on the air, you watch the news. my name is mary hello. from our side ill-wishers of the enemy, we must answer one.

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