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of real miracles and its pechersk lavra and what kind of prophecy? we found rare footage from 1988 of how the kiev pechersk lavra from the museum fund is transferred back to the churches. celebration of the millennium of the baptism of russia the soviet government decided to transfer the jurisdiction of the russian orthodox church to part of the kiev pechersk historical and cultural reserve. at the beginning of our millennium, the monks founded in caves on the slopes of the dnieper, the monastery later became the kiev-pechersk lavra , the center of the spread and establishment of christianity. in kievan rus, its role in the development of national culture is also great ; the legendary chronicler nestor created the tale of bygone years here. for several centuries there was an icon-painting workshop in the lavra , the first hospital was opened here in the 11th century,

and in the 17th century printing houses and a school began to operate. and a monastery will be organized there again today in the council for religious affairs under the government of the ussr to the patriarchal the exarch of ukraine, metropolitan philaret of kiev and galicia, was presented with the decree of the council of ministers of the ukrainian ussr on the transfer of objects of the kiev-pechersk reserve. in the jurisdiction of the russian orthodox church after 35 years. after the release of this story, the schismatics want to take the kiev-pechersk lavra from the rector of the ukrainian orthodox church. lavra was placed under arrest. today , orthodox all over the world are worried about all these events around kiev, the pechersk lavra, 21 years ago. irina meladze every day on her knees asked for a miracle so that her child was born and a miracle happened about it. she herself

will tell today we meet. 21 years ago you prayed that god would give you a baby and a miracle would happen. yes, i was pregnant with my third daughter and already in late pregnancy, and i fell ill with sinusitis. and my gynecologist and i, the doctor, underwent an acceptable course of treatment with antibiotics, but in general, nothing helped, and the situation developed so that i flew to kiev, the main goal was to go, uh, to ask our fathers in pechersk about they helped came, uh, came to kiev to the lavra, but stood in line and in such a tearful, prayerful state. and i. well,

probably a woman won't understand me. i just took my belly. i just got up last in line, because they simply didn’t see me and didn’t attract attention, as much as possible. i so wanted to pray sincerely, and i’m right here all the relics in the nearby caves, which were right there, and i asked, i taught, and with tears i asked that they would help, all the more, there, agapit of pechersk is the first a doctor in russia, uh, she was crying. e, applied and a i asked them to help me, uh. uh, because the sinusitis did not go away, and already a stronger dose of antibiotics was already prohibited. and hmm, i should prescribe moreover, even there, and cytomegalovirus joined, which only intensified this situation. well, in general, the situation was serious, and uh,

a miracle happened, um, of course, it did not happen right away. i came home, flew in. and, in fact, it doesn't do anything. just the disease began to recede sharply. we just had you already at the moment when the day of childbirth came, the waters broke and my water was dark, that is. i i was very frightened, because such a thing is sinusitis. but my daughter was born. uh, healthy, no matter what, because i already had experience. loss of the first child. and of course, but to say that i started to get nervous when i saw it. and how uh, well, what, what kind of water is not to say anything. well, nevertheless, the mercy of god arina was born, healthy , moreover, she was still against the background of the fact that i was so nervous, of course, my milk was gone in the maternity hospital. and she is 100% fake. that is, against all odds

the child was born healthy, and moreover from three girls. she was the strongest, she did not get sick at all until the age of 6. well, except as a miracle, it cannot be called, and, in fact, that only confirms that a hearty mother. nskaya, prayer probably does wonders, yes, and in the first place. the help of our uh holy fathers, therefore, and the lavra this is probably the most holy place for me, in general , after jerusalem, so i know, where we live in the temple, and there is an ark from a scoop-pechersk and for me this, honestly speaking, such, and here is airy at the moment. er, that's why i do it every week whenever i can. eh, i go there, even if we walk, i walk by. i just again, as out of habit, go in and immediately fall down to the urea and ask the priests to help them now, manage and pray. well , in general, i honestly believe with all my heart

that everything will be fine anyway. and now they mentioned the tragedy that happened in your life. that is why you were sent to the lavra , you were afraid that history might repeat itself, of course, firstly, this fear is maternal, when you lost one child, then it is clear to e that he is already every time during pregnancy. he is present , you can’t do anything about it, when you prayed, you took your stomach, what you felt, in the very moment you didn’t feel anything. well , as soon as i got up, and from the cave to the temple i immediately know right away, that's all, as i let go, i sighed and immediately i felt, but mentally light. and after the birth of arina, you were still honest. yes, i was here, but what did they ask? i, well, like all women, of course i i always ask, firstly, that the children be healthy, i ask for joy, happiness, and that my head should be clear, like any sinful person. i understand that we are asking for god's help both in

spiritual affairs and, in everyday life, and of course, and since it has been 21 years, there was a coronavirus in the yard. and, of course, i asked that this infection recede, so that relations at that time would still even out. i always ask because, uh, my dad lives there now. and of course, i always ask for peace to come, so that somehow everything settled. it must have been said that the appearance of your daughter in the world is a real miracle. now. as i understand it, the miracle is already 21 years old. and it's time for her to appear in our studio. meet the same miracle, arina meladshe. mom told you about that very miracle, in general

, yes, she did, but in fact, at a more mature age, it seems to me, about 13-14 years old. and when i found out about it, well, i was kind of shocked, because you know the feeling that you are involved. to some small miracle, and in general, i was i am very grateful at this moment and immediately i had a desire to definitely visit the kiev-pechersk lavra to thank the holy fathers, because well, they are involved in my appearance and the fact that i am now healthy thank god that you felt when he first heard this story . well, i was amazed, i had some kind of trepidation in my soul and such moments in my life. they seem to begin to strengthen your faith, as i understand it, this is just a wonderful place that i will have to visit and thank the suction of the saints, because that, well, it also influenced and should be the choice of my future profession. uh, i'm currently in my third year, uh

, sechenov medical university. yes, in the field of medicine. what miracles are you planning to ask for? oh well, of course, like , uh, any girl should be, i want a strong family, and in general, it should be from well , again, healthy and, accordingly, i will have to ask for health and strong love. and the popular actress elena zakharova asked kiev of the pechersk lavra for a miracle six times , and we met her every word. in 2001 you first find yourself in aura ugu why did you go there, but you know, i have always been a believer even as a schoolgirl. i went to the temple, and when i was filming in kiev, of course, i

could not help but visit this shrine. i felt this kind of unusual atmosphere. and i remember that there was such a wonderful garden. it was all so unlike anything. yes, here is such a kievan rus, e, the faith of orthodoxy, and i remember these caves, of course. e. well, i’m there somehow the way i was there more than once, sometimes it was even a little such an eerie feeling, because sometimes you are with someone, sometimes you walk alone with a candle and somewhere right there the ceilings are low and narrow, but still with tar. you walk and it's a fantastic feeling what you asked for every time you know well when you're very young yeah well what do you ask for? well , of course, you still ask for love, but you ask for health less, then you will be for a certain period. you understand that this is also important in life from me, everyone understands. yes? prayed for something. well, for a long time it was hard to remember, of course

same, every time the prayers were answered. well, you know, i not only prayed there, but it seems to me that yes, that a lot happened, a lot was very good. can you say so? she asked for the birth of her daughter, as we see now, everything is fine arina is sitting next to her, but you are beautiful in your life also experienced a terrible tragedy yes, but you know, uh, when i survived it, i in the lavra, in my opinion, after that been several times. and, of course, i asked, and the children, and i asked from my daughter, because i lost my daughter. i really wanted to have a daughter, she was born, well, many years have passed. yes, and that's why, you know, i prayed in all the places where i was, where i was filming, where i was on tour. i went to every temple and prayed, so you know, when they say to me, well, what do you think, that's what kind of flowers didn't help you? i say you know it's so hard to say because, well,

it's not like you called today, is it? yes, it's like sharing it, yes, that is, of course, uh, children. it seems to me that they come from god. yes, i begged my daughter. i sure of it. i also had such a story that i was in a bar. i flew specifically to the barik. nicholas the wonderworker. this was before his relics were brought to moscow and happened. so i somehow fasted and flew to milan to friends. and for one day in the bar i thought that there i would take communion and venerate the relics exactly once a year. these relics were closed, and i ended up on that day. i remember that i was crying so much. our tourists saw me and took me to another temple, where there was a piece of relics, i talked with the priest there. in general, everything was great. well you they said that, like any girl, they asked for a strong family, but for children , but as i understand it, vera helped you survive, including

the betrayal of a loved one, well , of course, no, i generally sometimes think that the worst test in my life i i don’t know how unbelieving people can endure them . yes, i somehow ended up in the church and began to take communion to confession a lot and they say that it’s just in moments of the strong. a person who is shocked should take communion a lot, this helps. i myself was in the laurel, i heard a lot, oh, the amazing old man of the father in the frame, to whom people from all over the world came to the kiev-pechersk lavra to receive a blessing from him, it was a real miracle. this is a historical picture of the brothers of the kiev-pechersk lavra, decided to take it in honor of the thirtieth anniversary of the resumption of monastic life in the monastery, father avraami , the elders of the kiev-pechersk lavra, he is 92

years old, he has been leading a reclusive life for many years. today, the elder left the cell to take a picture with his brothers, even the lavra monks consider the blessing of the father by the abrahams as a mercy, and for ordinary parishioners, meeting with the elder with relatives is a miracle. he took in the lavra in mid fifties. i arrived like that, already in the fifty-third year on the fedos of the prizhelsky, there were inhabitants, well, they were in the odesselnik. basically, these were monks who help in conclusion to let the archimandrite pass to happiness, polycarp helps the photographer to build brothers. in the most honorable place, the confessor of the kiev-pechersk lavra, the elder avraami, in the picture there should be all the rarest case, all 210, the brothers left their affairs and gathered

together to take this photo. confessor of the kiev-pechersk lavra archimandrite, abraham died 3 years ago natalia bondarchuk brought a handful of the holy land of the pechersk lavra to her great father's grave. it was his last request . natalya bondarchuk mommy, she confessed to me my mom inna vladimirovna makarova who doesn't know, yes, people's artist of the ussr and once i asked her. well, what is mom, why do i always feel like going to the kiev-pechersk lavra? i

always want to go there. well, he says, dad and i, do you understand what's the matter? and very bored. and i came to see him for the shooting of taras shevchenko, he is just shevchenko then he played, and we, like, you were born with us after 9 months, so for me , kiev-pechersk. lavra is a kind of cradle , a cradle, of everything beautiful and connected with my life, and i cannot be indifferent now. to what's going on out there, my dears, i can't, this is my pain. i also have a husband and an esquiva. i met him there, and my wonderful husband igor valentinovichsky, he lived there all his life, and with his parents and now with the kiev-pechersk lavra. everything is connected to me. you understand,

alena bondarchuk calls me, we lost everything dad screams, lost the phone, and i'm in kiev in his homeland, he was born in the village of belozyorka, kherson region. and i say okay. well, i understood, alyonochka. calm down, i understand, and i am addressing you. e to a wonderful completely orthodox priest. i say, please collect the earth from the holy graves for me, and they collect the earth from the holy graves of the beer-pechersk lavra, they give me such an ark, and i have time to bring this ark to my dad's funeral. and when he was buried, i throw it there, that is, not me, the priest connects the orthodox priest these two lands, you understand? and so and what

are laurels for me, and when my husband and i find out about it now, you know, so i want to tell you, only one thing. now all the doubts of many have disappeared. because there is such a rubicon, to do this was to attack the priests, take away the crosses, throw them on the ground, but all of them showed themselves in full force, you understand? you know from the prediction for strength 30 years ago they became zosima, and predicted the fall of the lavra 30 years ago and he said that e all spiritual strength. will be transferred to our e, optina is empty. hmm, you understand

, it is impossible to destroy the spirituality of the lavra. she doesn't belong to anyone, these damn things. oh, sorry, it doesn’t belong but, uh, a transmission of some kind, like a baton for the time of this persecution, yes, maybe people will be saved there, i don’t know how it will be now, but the prediction was made, but there is still a prediction . uh-huh, so the first year of trepaski. the first easter will be bloody. easter will be bloody the second. easter will be hungry, the third. easter will be victorious victorious, and already one easter has passed. now we have a second easter and the third, you understand, everything there is already

clear. and my heart is breaking, because i am half ukrainian, you know, and i pray for both, because there are suffering people here and there, as galoshin said, brilliant and i stand alone between them and with all my strength i am for those and for others, that is , there are people, like orthodox, who wanted to somehow pour out their attitude. at least to the lord , they can’t even do this now , a short pause, and immediately after the popularly beloved actress. the first beauty of the soviet cinema after visiting the kiev pechersk lavra, decided to go to the monastery, as well as the prophecy of the elder zosima, which had already begun to come true about this after advertising. by the holiday of easter, mikhail porechenkov in the film by eduard

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channel russia special edition of program 60 minutes all the latest news about the situation in ukraine and in the world. don't miss 60 minutes today 17:30 on russia channel russia channel live kiev-pechersk lavra a truly holy place for everyone , people from all over the world come to this ancient monastery in the hope of a real miracle and today in our studio the history of incredible miracles. after visiting the kiev pechersk lavra, she decided to go to the monastery, an all-union famous actress, and today inna kine olga gobzova

is with us. you are the first beauty of the soviet you are filmed by eminent directors, but it ’s true that millions of male soviet viewers fell in love with you, and then you decide to go to a monastery. first, i was not the most beautiful. natasha was prettier than me, for sure. that just confuses me. i'm telling the truth it's we have footage of this movie one day 20 years later where do you play the guitar recite poetry? let's get a look. how many white snowflakes fly and

requested in the park a sad story. calls me to keep. love has remained , my ripe love, the distant one is calling me to keep me, that it happened that you went to the monastery. this is providential, most likely by the providence of god, perhaps my ancestors prayed for me, most likely, so there were monks in my family. i think it's not every person. maybe explain everything in your destiny. this is sometimes a mystery to the person himself. i can only say for sure that my name is a feeling. uh,

i was blessed in the kiev-pechersk lavra. i was, well, of course, in the caves to st. anthony, i prayed to theodosius, because, well, the film set wants vain silence, and caves are such a special space of grace and i prayed, and then i was met by a monk who recognized me on tv and saw me. so we talked for a long time with him, and at the end he said. you will be a mother. i bind my monastic fate. eh, the fate of the lord. paul, who is now repeating, in fact, the fate of the apostle paul is also an exception, also in contemplation, and, of course, she was lavra. it was founded in 101 by the monks anthony, who came from athos

as a russian monk and theodosius, his student from near kursk. here it was ruined many times many times by the tatars, uh, polovtsy , sometimes even our internecine strife by the princes during the war, despite the fact that the nazis discovered how the lavra was, they blew up the holy dormition cathedral. and now vladyka pavel for me is just a man right now. well, how do you say? well, no, i would like us all to support him in his imprisonment, because he continues his martyrdom, he turns to dangerous ones and you look at what is happening now in general , amazing times, how would the heavens open, because if someone then by blasphemed. after some time , kara catches up with him. and now it turns out that in the same e in kiev in the same ukraine

, he blasphemed, plucked the cross or, uh, danced in front of the chorister, remember? yes, and then he falls dead. these people are right there. they do not know what they are doing in some kind of confusion, my heart bleeds with the blood of his millions, when the whole world saw these monstrous shots. uh, when people mock pepper, ruff, fell and he was taken by ambulance. he died, he did not reach the hospital, but prays singing ekaterina i don’t remember her ekaterina ershova ershova yes, that’s why you know, uh, really the time when everyone must make a choice for themselves with whom with god or with a name about salvation, and this is really so, because at all times people came to kiev pechora lavra not only for a miracle, but for saving

their own lives attention. by the beginning of the 20th century , the lavra, as a cenobitic monastery, or one might even say a whole monastic republic , was a large friendly family of the first world war, people who came from the safront and who lost e there, or e completely, became disabled, or half disabled. they found relief from their participation, including feeding, where in the monastery and the lavra many fed. and for free. i'm not talking about the fact that there was also a lavra hospital - it's like a guiding star, like a lighthouse that indicated where people should go, how they should move, how they should relate to their earthly existence, so to

speak, the laurels have been many times ruined. and many times restored completely from ruined state. and i very much believe that vladyka lavra will be restored through the prayers of the believers. fedoseyeva-shukshina and vasily shukshina are sure that her family has split due to the events that are taking place around the kiev-pechersk lavra olga shukshina is meeting. in the kiev-pechersk lavra, but this also hit your family. eh, in the most direct way. unfortunately, this is such a drama, indeed, in many respects there is a split in our family within the family. it would seem that she really personifies the picture of the world,

because anastasia is the first daughter or nikolaevna of my mother shukshina, she was born and lives in kiev, they are ukraine, as it were, ukraine and for the last 10 years. i did everything to connect them with my mother all of our sisters, so that we sat down, so that we were close, so that we were a family, the word was truly seven, and well, it happened like this . and now i can’t imagine the future of communication with the strange anastasia and her family who remained in ukraine. here, unfortunately, this is a tragedy, of course, a miracle remains unambiguous. in the soul, uh, the hope for a miracle, now he knows better, like what? what ways to lead us to this unity? eh, but the facts are sad three sisters by mother and three

sisters by father. that is, it’s like there are four of us, uh, but anastasia, perhaps, she had the most dramatic fate, because uh, they practically lost her mother, when i was 10 years old , the family that remained in ukraine they manipulated the child against the mother, who on that moment united with vasily makarych. and so they used it as a bargaining chip in these relations. yeah, and unfortunately, uh, when grandma doesn't know her great-grandchildren. i mean mama summer kollaevna, and great-grandchildren do not know who their great-grandmother is. and, well, we're just on opposite sides of the barricades, it's scary. remember natalia bondarchuk. ah, the words of the elder zosima and about the three easters, i strongly believe that this picture will definitely come true sometime in life. this is true, meanwhile , a petition appeared on the internet to make

the kiev-pechersk lavra catholic, thousands of people signed this petition. how did you come to this or that the match olga crossed herself no of course, because this cannot be allowed there were such attempts, and before now they became aggravated because everything became aggravated against orthodoxy. their end is inevitable. this is the abyss, they will go to their master, who is now raging, but now they are rejoicing. it's true, it's true, it's allowed. here again we need to understand why this is allowed, so we are somewhere. do you know if there is such an icon? olya forgive me for interrupting the last judgment. that's especially the sixteenth century. there, uh, at the very bottom of hell and the very, very sinner who will never be forgiven forever and ever, judas, who sits on satan's knees, lord have mercy, and uh, the worst

sin is a betrayal, and it is even more terrible when this betrayal in relation to the faith is even more terrible. i don’t even know what else to break through, but hell to put raskolnikov there and i, uh, i want to tell you, and i love your family very much. and you know this, and i'll tell you one thing that masha told your sister quite recently, we lowered beautiful wreaths to sholokhov. to my father and shukshin. that's where the chapels are now where he went home, yes, and the distance was huge. here are my first wreaths lowered the second wreath was lowered and the third, and in the middle of the river they connected themselves and swam together, that you understand that they are together there

and i wish your family. sailing like this, because i love you both very much, and masha is with you and especially your father, whom he knew and loved. today we are talking about the miracles of the kiev-pechersk lavra and indeed those shrines that are kept. there they are priceless. here is what the journalist arkady mamontov tells about this in his film . the depth of the caves is from three to 20 m from the level of the modern surface of the cave. closer than the monk nicodemus. spacious century. one of the first monks carried obedience. here they are both. that is, uh and

now people are kissing their hands this hand in the forty-first year was hit by a police commandant during the war, blood came from his hand. it is for this of this of these relics that the church is now being glorified and the germans did not touch the relics of the laurel and did not touch the monk during the war. far caves. here are other saints in a small cell, at the entrance to the caves in a special closet there are myrrh-streaming heads of the saints of the caves guardian these chapters are served by a novice of the mamuka monastery from the city of zugdidi in georgia. we have 28 degrees of them, eight myrrh-streams of the world, this is an oily liquid that flows out and when

lava was discovered back in the 800th year for the millennium of russia, then they say squirrel. elena pechersk lavra and is she sure that it is a lavra? at the age of 19, you first appeared in the lavra, when i was 19 years old on a ticket. i went, that is, they gave vouchers, and i chose the kiev-pechersk lavra. i think we should go there and pray. in general, and so on, when i saw the relics. i was also generally shocked to, well, you know, yes, that is , i never saw it, but while i was walking i looked at the relics. i prayed all the way. i just looked and thought, what would not be in my life. help me all saints. so i got

married when i was 21. so i couldn't get pregnant. there are even official documents in the antenatal clinic. and in general, uh, i then remembered. about the kiev-pechersk lavra, and i began to remember it directly, you know, right before my eyes , just like that, as if i was there yesterday , it’s so strong, and i also began to pray that help me the saints of the kiev-pechersk lavra, then, and then, uh, our gynecologist, then my she is leaving. uh, she left me and went to improve her skills. she uh became a gynecologist-endocrinologist, and what was her surprise when she arrives? and i have three children. yes, one means, right? that is, it turns out that you washed a child in the lavra, then i was born the fourth child. this is a real miracle. here, yes. uh, i mean, he's a antenatal doctor's already another one

was there. yes, she says to go. i speak in oncology and check, says the chest, and i know so calmly, i went to think. well, what problems, yes, to check the chest, then i come there. well, he tells me to undress and come. uh, a nurse, probably, and she makes me sharp. painful very prick. right here. here, then he says to come for tests. when i came for tests, it turns out that i have cancer of the left breast. yes, that was almost 24 years ago. i went out and immediately began to pray. that is, they already helped once and you already know that i completely relied on it, i mean, i haven't gone anywhere since then. i only had pain together with the injection, but i think if i had breast cancer, then in 20 almost four years, yes, that is, it would manifest itself here.

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sunday. without you, it was possible to tear andrey malakhov's light evening shows on the channel, russia prophecies of the kiev-pechersk lavra where believers from all over the world come two-time olympic champion svetlana masterkova, with tears in her eyes, for a long time did not dare to enter the kiev-pechersk lavra and could not even imagine that there will happen svetlana masterkova meet. what did you dream about and be in the lavra, but were afraid of it? why yes, i dreamed a lot and first of all i want to say that i was behind the scenes. and of course i heard everything. your miraculous stories of healing help support. i m-m brought baptism a month before the olympics, because my heart my

soul understood that it is impossible to go to the olympics, without being without god and i do not distance. here's how my father hung it for me, my usual cross, no diamonds, no gold chains on a string. that's how neat he put it. here , by the strap, so that he would be immobilized, as it were, and standing just on the launch pad , there was literally a little bit of time left, and then i thought, just don’t think about the fact that all of russia is looking at me, i took the cross as a whole. little hid him again, but the gods, i always thought because we are russians, we have roots, we have, and a life story that is inseparable from god and i was 9 years old. i then sobbed the screen twice, when you won

the olympic games twice and i thank you for this low peace. come back come back to the lavra. you were afraid to go there. yes, i’ll tell you that we were often in kiev at sports camps and, of course, i didn’t manage to get into the kiev-pechersk lavra, because we were very busy with our sporting events, but i really wanted to and once when i was already an adult, i was already completely free from sports. i still ordered a tour of kiev-pechersk was in order to once again bow to those saints whose about 128 holy relics are in the cave to bow to those people. i still take them. eh, let's put it this way. these are the people who believed in themselves. these are the saints who believed in themselves, in their path in their life path and did not retreat from this path, believing in myself to the end in my

life to some extent, being a little girl who was born in siberia very far away even from the regional city, the city of achinsk , i believed in myself. i believed in myself and i went to this for many, many years and brought two gold medals for our country. well, i had i had. eh, still no. i wasn't very comfortable in an enclosed space, well the doctors call it claustrophobia. and of course, uh, going into the czech lavra, going through the wonderful events that take place there. of course, i couldn't go down into the cave. and when we have already gone beyond. mm. eh, laurels, i prayed for the last time and said, thank you bowed, and i returned. come what may, so that there is not with me. i will go down to the cave, i will bow my knees to a kiss, hands of power, and so on, at first i felt dizzy, but i still walked, i believed that

it would help me. i believed that i would go down on my knees. i will calm down, but i will accept, here the work is the life path of the saints, and they will not bless me , they are not afraid, psychologically there will be no ailments. strong in himself as sure as all the people who go to some goal achieve it, then they preach it when i went out. i generally forgot that i had such a no, and i left. i started crying again just because it doesn't bother me anymore, what was it, what was it? uh, you could call it a miracle, but first of all, a miracle happened inside you and you 've been rid of it ever since. yes, i don't have it now. this is a miracle. you know that there was such a nuance in order not to exclude not losing some connection with history, after all, this is still a historical place. we hired a guide and

at some point you came to one platform, already before the exit. well, still, being on the territory, but because such a suburb was small, and she somehow began to speak very harshly in some cold voice. but you know, changes are taking place here right now. right at this place. we had burials. and now the kiev government has been built. helipad here is the president of one of them there, i don’t know, they built a helipad. one of the presidents landed there so as not to go far and be generally absolutely, uh, come incognito and, uh, in the kiev pechersk lava for me it was, of course, such a wake-up call. this was already the beginning of schismatics a very long time ago, when you described your condition, when you got there, you talked about some kind of unity, that everyone is together? yes indeed

kiev-pechersk. lavra has always united all people, regardless of their attention status. we are now standing at the place where in the last century my father was 12 years old. so it was 1912, my father lived in the village of call, he lived, but something pulled him here, and they had such a woman who inspired him, see, after her, a whole crowd of one shevchen went to the lavra to pray, and in this one , of course, my father was, and after that some kind of city city school went on, then a trade school, and then quite by accident , again by accident. he got into the sadovsky theater and from that time on. this is a place, laser white, some kind of blessed push. first it was something the children asked for. we did not have children for a long time, but we really wanted to and

we prayed about it. everything was normal from a medical point of view. everything was fine but well, it wasn’t what we wanted, and i remember this moment well, that i went to the monastery, prayed to the saints, and when i left, i asked the reverends of the caves and the lord that if this child is needed, the lord will not let healthy it, if not needed, let it give me patience, can also find it as it is during the plot. you said what you want to say about another prophecy. yes, i actually remembered already, sitting here with me. more than 15 years ago, i bought one book, a schiorhiat-madrid seraphim tyapochkina, then i read. uh hmm in his predictions that the kiev-pechersk fathers will beg for ukraine for the fraternal slavic peoples. this is what i remember for the rest of my life. you know

, long before it all started, andrei mironov , with the help of a miraculous icon from the kiev-pechersk lavra, saved his sister from the sect even today. he brought this icon to our meeting program. what is the story of the real miracle of all the sad saints? did you read everything? i'll leave you the history of the icon, but history. why do i have her uh, such is the eighth year my sister married married married from kiev they hid from me for the first few years. i didn’t know anything, as later mom herself told me that my sister apparently fell into a different faith, as she said,

her husband, he turned out to be um. well, let's just say a sectarian, what he did esotericism. eh, meditation and all kinds of parapsychology and so on, he conducted all sorts of sessions on the internet. in general, uh, there is no fate for people, predicting, planning and so on. well, let's say good money on this case, and he dragged his sister. they met him on the internet in the same way here i i understand that today it’s so simple, it turns out that my sister didn’t cross herself easily from vera . that’s all the same, that is, they have their own rituals there. i come to my mother and tell me all this, and my mother says to me, do it. well, something needs to be done, what should i do? well, i say, let's do it now. well , as we do, we will ask god god will either do it either leave it like that or lower it, because well, everything that we can do e we cannot save. we can ask god to save. i went to the kiev-pechersk lavra. i

got up, then on my knees asked for help m-m. uh, i prayed, and then i went through all the labyrinths, through the full of these relics , i practically asked for the same thing very much, uh, then i addressed both moses the ugrin and the glue of muromet as insults. yes, yes, ilya muromets is not a fairy-tale hero. it is his power, there lies it absolutely real. and the hero is absolutely real. so two or three months pass and come to me, my mother said this phrase to me, you drove dima away. i mean, he says he filed for divorce, and today he ran away from the world. and, well, that's the thing and filed for divorce. and my mother tells me that my sister came to the monastery, came to the bishop, and they performed the ceremony. i don’t know what it ’s called right now, i don’t remember anymore, says the rite of returning back to vera, and now from that

moment she is. well, at least every month. she takes communion. today we heard the story of real miracles and we really want the kiev-pechersk lavra to be associated with all of us. with such miracles from the true faith and not with those terrible events that have been unfolding around her lately, for today our time came to an end exactly one week later in the live broadcast studio. we will continue to discuss what excites everyone and everyone goodbye. hello dear friends ladies and gentlemen, comrades, hello, your favorite program is live for 60 minutes, and most importantly on