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2 minutes before the meeting of the new year 2022 , a resident of stavropol natalya miller finds out that she is pregnant 9 months happy waiting childbirth and a few days later the funeral of the newborn son of davydov, why all this time women are sure that they did not bury their child. today we will understand this terrible and confusing story, where we played with him in the stomach. he says little tiger cub, however, it's hard, because i was waiting to buy. i was preparing with a stroller , which was bought by davydov's newborn , a set of clothes for discharge, bottles of rattles have been here for almost a year with love chosen by the dowry of the baby, gathering dust in the attic for 9 months. i come here. i ask him to submit don't know where to go. where to look for the truth you pregnancy natalia miller was, and the second long-awaited almost perfect calmness was added by the fact that the doctor who observed the pregnancy and took the company. rodion filippov was a close friend of the family and never

made them worry. they attached an ultrasound to the child’s perfect questions zero, so the death of the child came as a shock and for natalia miller they began to search for the truth at the moment when, after the exhumation, it turned out that the child had no internal organs, and the findings of the dna examination showed that natalya only likely to be the biological mother, presumably to the boys, the woman began to doubt that the buried baby was her son, but her maternal heart, well, they do not believe. i feel like my baby lived somewhere, but no answers. is it necessary that he can’t get it from anyone, including from a doctor who even managed to become the godfather of a child in september, he was in touch with me. he didn’t even come out with me, never called and didn’t even try to talk about today in the program where did the doctor rodion filippov go, who became crooked father davyda and chief, who is buried in the boy's grave? is this kid the son of natalia will fight. until, truth well, it will not

be revealed and i will fight. in our studio hello i understand that the search for truth is on television. so this is not your first pregnancy. no, this is your second pregnancy. that is, you have already gone through everything, you knew everything. yes? especially since i understand that the doctor who led the pregnancy. we have now heard. yes, a family friend, yes, that's all. everything was fine and good and the birth took place. how i gave birth, i, of course herself, as it were, without the complications of a child. i didn't see it, they didn't show it to me. that is , they showed me already at 10:00 pm filippov himself conducted it. and what he said with the child, everything is fine. screaming, a pink child under supervision was born large 4.200 52 cm, then i found out already in my mouth in intensive care by a sign , as it were. well, why didn’t you ask me to show you, if everything is fine e after all , yes, this is not the first time you give birth, m-m they said they would come to me, after i gave birth to

me, well, they fucked me with a tambour, well where was supposed to be lie down a little bit? no, no, i i know that i'm applying at all, you can't show it? to the questions yes, now, when you yourself gave birth to a child, you were in the minds of the guys consciousness, i fell or was unconscious on the last attempts. i fainted. and i don't remember anything. in general, it was a pancake, apparently yes, yeah, they gave birth. where are you again, well , you are the perinatal center of the city of stavropol on semashko, one or two, like listening, that it was easier for you all your stories that began, as i said 2 minutes before the new year. from 21 to 22 on december 31, i find out that i am pregnant with our second child, we they did a test right before the new year in a couple of minutes and we had a positive test with two strips. this is what we have wanted for a long time. god gave us a new year's miracle, we were all ready, it was

the boys, the daughter and her husband chose the name, dear, chose the name. we named him david now. bought a set of clothes to go out. i have all the bottles of papilla all this was bought. according to the sign of the zodiac, he turns out to be leo; he had a lion cub costume for discharge. well, when we played with him in the stomach, he says tiger cub. true, it's hard, because i was waiting to buy. i prepared for it all. we're just in the attic right now. which made the child perfect questions zero. rodion filippov , who was supposed to take birth, with whom we agreed, is a friend of our family. he knew the pregnancy and from the first day he saw every ultrasound for 3-4 years i gave birth, and i passed out when i woke up the child was gone. then they brought me to tamba. rodion comes. i

ask what he says to the child, he is in intensive care, like, well, but he breathes pink. i christened the child. there, we are still standing from rodion i say. look, i'm talking about a little spouse. he says, yes, directly poured out, in general, as much as possible, because he was a small copy of rodion, he became the godfather, even he is the godfather of the doctor who took delivery and then gives out a call to everyone in pennies, says he calls you, head of pediatrics. i went there. she says, but we don't know how your child came to be. forgive us, when i was discharged, they told me, yes, that you are so worried, 3 months will pass. you can go again without any jokes says well, what are you saying so? it's because of you that the conveyor can make philip all the time the name wave. i wanted to know if they came about such a concealment or not. i say, tell me, what is the reason for a specific dialogue, tell me, he says, well, there is something long there, a lot of things are written there, i forgot. that's all he told us, this is my last conversation with him. that is, they said, this is some kind of mysticism, i don’t

understand, somehow it came out. and what happened in general, when we went to the temple with my husband , they began to put candles out, i went up, then the situation was explained to the priest, what is happening with the child in my family. he said, he didn’t put any mixture at all, until you find out the truth. well, even remember him not with her. this is what milana made a present yesterday so that god would return her brother to her. well, it's just to stand. oh well, it fits. we are going to kindergarten. she says, find us his brother. she says our brother's mom was stolen from you. it's the doctors fault. i hate doctors. i will fight, i'll be honest, until the truth is hidden, there is strength and there is still a lot of strength strength and i will fight fight fight because i need to tell me some truth. and how did events develop after the death of the baby, did you agree to the exhumation

correctly in the framework of the criminal case? i insisted on ex-humation, that is, a dna test was necessary. well, to check whether this is my child or not? to us, as it were, well, the investigator granted the petition, we did an exhumation on november 3, when they took him to the forensic medical examination. well, at the post-mortem of the city of stavropol there, at the autopsy, it turned out that there was not a single internal organ right up to the brain, well nothing at all, because there is shocking in this story the most. yes, i attended the exhumation. i myself saw the exhumation with my own eyes. we filmed on the body. well, as it were, well, now we see, we filmed it, we, i was present there, personally , i am with him. well, they filmed it all. we are like, well, everything, i survived. i'm here, wait, the baby looked at him and appreciate that i'm just asking i was standing. well, between the graves, i saw it all. yes, as it were, how they buried, in what were they buried? i can't tell because i

was. well, not in the state that, well, how would it be later, when we were changed for a second autopsy, the spouse was not allowed to tell our parents, well, it’s allowed, as it were, yes, here. our man is not allowed to go. well, understood from our side, as it were, then it, well, it lasted 2-3 hours, that's all. well, this is the examination. she comes out and speaks, and the child does not have a single internal organ, but the most important thing, uh, not to even shock our viewers now. this is the result. e dna test, see what miller's conclusions are likely to be the biological mother of a person of male genetic sex, presumably miller d and the value of the probability of a random match identified in the genetic traits of miller hb and a person of male genetic sex, presumably miller d , and is 5.68 x 10 to the minus tenth degree. this means that theoretically, on

average, one out of one billion 760 million women has genetic traits that do not exclude her motherhood in relation to a male genetic sex presumably. miller dx, as i understand it, you, of course, are not satisfied with the wording, probably, presumably. yes, perhaps no specifics well, if you do a dna test yes, and you do an exhumation, yes, then, well, i don’t know, there is snezhana koroleva here, uh, hundreds of times the envelopes failed 99.9. no, we were trying to achieve it, as it were, so that it was 99.9 or well, it's okay to detect, but how will you comment on them. that's what the formula is 5 68 ten one woman in a billion. i want to start by saying that hmm , probably in such elementary things, so that everything is clear to everyone, that when a child is conceived, the child takes 50% of the mother's dna, yes 50 from dad, if we initially, but take

a sample of only one parent for examination. we will never have 100%. well, dad didn't even ask us. we have a dad in general , he never appears anywhere alone. only your sample cannot be 100% related to this child. yes, i do not know why the investigators made such a decision. yes, and they took samples only from you. research tells us what one woman out of one billion 760,000 is talking about. only one woman can claim to be the mother of this baby. if one physically we let's say what the whole planet needs. the earth has two or three more women that have, uh, the same, well, three, yes, that might be the mother of this child. but you, too, think that the child switch was not here, uh. i believe that the replacement of the child was not here, as i understand it, after all, the main question is where the organs are. yes and here is the attention of the responsible committee to the material of the audit dated january 17

, 2023 on the fact of illegal actions, in which there are signs of a crime under articles 286 and 120 of the criminal code of the russian federation in actions of unidentified persons. attached to a criminal case. 120 zhenya's article what kind of article is this article related to organ transplantation. uh, accordingly, in russia it is forbidden, but they could cut out these organs to hide evidence of a medical error , negligence, and anything could be anything. andrey andrey look at the examination, which i finished reading on the child. there are really a lot of very problems and questions for doctors, so it is quite possible that they really are somewhere somewhere in delhi i don't know how it's even possible, well, because it was originally written. yes, it really is. maybe yes, what do you say, like a best-selling author? how to get pregnant quickly?

the most important thing is that there were no super-critical diagnoses , so, of course, i would like to see all the documents, but now, i think that the people at fedorov's lawyer in the miller family will now appear in this studio . and just with the documents . let's meet her. hello, i know that they did not immediately agree to handle this case, which hooked you. what versions of what is happening? you have, well , after reading the documents that were presented to me at the waist. in fact , a lot of questions arose, starting from the autopsy report, which indicated incorrect data, namely the installation data at the waist, starting from the incorrectly indicated policy of the snils number. uh, protocol, just an autopsy, there will be marked in red all the controversial points that have nothing to do with natalia. but the most important thing. ah, what our editors have seen is that

after 21 points, eight points are missing and it is not clear that there is no whole sheet. that's eight points. this came up, just the most important thing can be eaten. well, most likely we can't talk, because we haven't seen it. well, everything is actually important in this protocol, but what is your task to prove the doctors? you want what you want, uh, natasha or so much the truth, your task is to find out the truth. we want to know for sure a dna test because we're not entirely sure. in general, in principle, we are not sure and do not consider by and large the question that you are a child natalia so you have a version that somewhere in stavropol it is possible that the child of natasha, the director of the center for forensic examinations and research, is walking and growing in our studio. are you here today? i know that you are, but ready to take on the re-examination. hello, we are a commercial organization. we conduct

forensic examinations, including working with examinations to determine the courts at the request of the decisions of the investigative committees, and we have all the powers and all the possibilities. yes hold for you. uh, you need genetic examination i think that after the program you will talk, and decide . and as i understand it, during the preparation of this program , several times we turned to the ministry of health of the stavropol territory with a request to comment on what happened to you. uh, at first the doctors seemed to be ready to comment, then they refused, and in general, after long negotiations, an official response was sent. e the following content. let's see. in accordance with article 13 of the federal law, number 323 is not allowed

disclosure of information constituting a medical secret, including after the death of a person, to persons to whom they became known in the course of training in the performance of labor official duties or other duties, while according to article 7 of federal law no. 152, operators and other persons who have gained access to personal data are obliged not disclose to third parties and not distribute personal data without the consent of the subjects of personal data, unless otherwise provided. federal law on the basis of the above to provide the information requested is not possible so much so that you told the doctors in the presence of the solar group that you give permission for the disclosure of information concerning you. well, let's see how the mother communicates, which is heartbroken. you two of me, consider, ruined due to the fact that you can't just simply answer my

questions. what happened to my son is the same to a responsible person specific cars. why wouldn't the analyzes imply this? from 13 i came i was not allowed to see the child. the documents could not prevent you from letting the child in, because when the child's condition leaves, in an hour, you will come to the child at 7:00 in the morning, when they said that he allegedly died. i want to know the truth about my child. all let's end the conversation. you have all the documents of the investigative committee. we have given all the absolute explanations. we have provided all documentation. there is a psychological study that says that your

child died neutralized well, so he 2 lived all that they could for the day. it is the use of auxiliary equipment and how to take it to reveal nothing here. just explain to me, i'm asking you a question. i don't have a document. how do i owe you? why are you asking me questions that i can answer if i have a document of a document with me. satisfactory condition pink, what are you talking about, did you have a dying child? which satisfy us constantly? why didn’t this happen, so that they would tell you that everything is fine, the condition is satisfactory. i was like that. here you ask philip, let's go. there give birth meet events to conduct fully

involved in my business. here the child has come also , it cannot happen. listen, well, well, i just understand myself, your state of your claims is fine, but i would behave the same way about myself. but understand me again, i can only speak for my actions. here is what we did what it was without me. i can't comment or tell. they will wait that the child was born dead, but at the same time they are trying to convince me of the opposite, and i did not ask him what happened, he says this. yes, they will create something. thank you please, you say, i saw

the child you were asked, did you see you saw the child. he was allowed to baptize us , the child opened his eyes. well, they did it with legs. i went up to i say you can baptize a child, so that you can go to church, pray, as if no one understood. i was not given an answer. they said we ourselves do not understand what happened. well, as if no one knew anything at all, no one gave me the manager permission to baptize the child, how to be present as a priest, as it should be. baptism happened, how everything would be present afterwards, while this does not correspond to what we hear on the frames. yes, because they say the child immediately was no. sorry, died immediately. and you baptize him. you see, let's, we will now make a small advertisement right after it, natasha's husband joseph joins our conversation, he managed to save the correspondence with the doctor, which was

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case in stavropol died at the age of three days, the child was exhumed. without internal organs. the baby's mother, natalia miller, spoke about her suspicions in our studio today. the woman doubts that the child she buried is her son. let's hear what else natasha told us about how she lives all these months after this tragedy. i'm just saying, it hurts, i need answers to my questions, everything. funeral i can't tell you. i can not describe, because

i was neutral in the grass, well, not in myself at all, so to speak, not able to. in general, i can’t, on this day i can’t write anything. i don’t write, i can’t write what he was like, so that he was dressed. if i was a little bit conscious, so to speak, maybe i looked at the baby, i don't know. i don't even have tags from him. that is, the child, in fact, here, well, i have nothing, except with him. i'll tell you, so, i don't feel, i don't feel my native here and that's it. i if you want to understand and hear. i'm like a mother, i don't feel, you know, my mother's heart. well, i don't. here, well, not mine. i feel that my child is alive somewhere and my husband is the same. that's how there is no connection. here is this one here related, he is my dark husband. we began to describe the child. and he says, i adjusted my hat, or there

was a refraction of light. well, that is, something says, there this hair color was closer to redhead. he is right to me, well, bright and the baby in the hospital. well, when i went there were eyebrows , eyelashes were not here and here, baby. he says he doesn't look 4 kg. and after that , even doubts were taken away, as it were, then we already began to sound the alarm. it's just that now he will be 9 months old. and now he is 9 months old. i come here. i ask him to submit. i don't know please. well, to suggest somehow something here, where do you send people to look. that's all. miller joined us. hello, i understand that you are now fully support spouse and you know this doctor well, who helped to take delivery, who became the godfather. you went to the same

school together. they told me, yes, rodion and i studied at the same school. that's how we would be friends, well, we were always together, that is, was it his idea or what? how did you decide when you found out about the pregnancy and thought, in which maternity hospital to give birth? well, i knew that rodion nu works in uh, in the new primary care center as an obstetrician, and how would i call him. i turned to him and asked if there is any, well, an opportunity for you to take delivery and directly, so that he could take delivery , he said that yes, there is a possibility, as it were, at all ultrasounds at all screenings. i was attended by my wife to the child never had any questions. all ultrasounds went well. inga all also went well. that's what a friend is, e who yes, yes, all the tests , too, all the tests that had to be done, all the tests were also good. that's all happened,

and he looked at the documents from the hospital. tell here, let's say in full, so he was aware of the entire pregnancy. uh, for each we called the ultrasound. we threw it off to him. we consulted with him, is everything okay or not? well, to which we have always received a positive response , there is an important story. that's when he said that we slept, this is when at what second? it turns out we wanted to know how everything is, well, why like this, uh? and we said when you have some documents bring well, i 'll see, i'll say there that as we have not said until he sees the documentation. he didn't tell us anything, he asked to bring us a photo. he took you pregnancy. it’s just that we additionally consulted with him, in addition to this person who led the pregnancy, that is, it

turns out that when he accepts threats, he said, i delivered. everything was fine, there were no prerequisites. or is there something else to say. uh, if you asked for a doctor, yes , you asked him, no, when a child dies, how does he behave? he also looks at the documents from the hospital. and yes, we once showed them the documents, he looked. well, he said, well, it’s completely incomprehensible here, yes, complete nonsense. and he says it's clear what's like they are trying to deceive you. well, it's not clear what he's talking about. yes, if they had already deceived, then they deceived beautifully, because tut says and well, half of the information is missing. he just said, i wouldn’t even believe the story myself, because if the doctor made mistakes, then he will answer. if he says that everything was in order and he will deceive you with a question. who is the main question

is hidden, as i understand it, yes, when it is also very surprising that it does not get in touch. natalya it was not possible to get in touch with rodion and ask. that's the main thing that he deleted all correspondence with you. he deleted all correspondence. and you have a correspondence. i have a part left, which the lake accidentally photographed. yes, by chance, i already consciously just started taking screenshots, because i thought now it would be, well, there will be investigative measures, in the course of which it’s right maybe. he, perhaps he wants to tell us the truth, but he cannot do this, because he is being influenced. let's see if you managed to keep your attention, take screenshots consciously. you how is it, how natasha even slightly departs compared to the previous state ; describe it looked like a hair, a lot of your face, as if your extract was already given with the conclusion of an autopsy, of course, it will be hard and for a long

time you still have to be around your dark hair , but eyebrows at that age, not yet. we need to see the results of the cover-up, i'm at work. i'll try to look at the autopsy, as i said generalized infection. i think it is in the histological examination of each tissue. the infection was confirmed organism. every organ was infected sepsis infected blood telemedicine. they did not have time to submit an application to moscow, they were waiting for answers and simply did not have time, because he died. most likely, there was an infection in the uterine cavity or after an early illness , a possible cause. either he was intimidated there with natalya to get in touch. he, well, with natalia in touch, he did not come out with relatives with ours either. well, they called him, he also did not pick up the phone. i was able to get through to him. he didn't say anything specific either. said what there are investigative measures all the investigator. i know no more than you. let's listen and see, and

let's read the testimony that he gave. ah, the highlights. of these, attention, the senior investigator of the investigative department for the industrial district of the city of stavropol interrogated in a criminal case. as a witness of filippov, the homeland of mikhailovich since 2022, i have been an obstetrician-gynecologist of the stavropol regional clinical perinatal center number one miller nv applied due to a decrease in activity fetal ore were conducted in the presence of a neonatologist. at 14:55, a live full-term male baby was born with an apgar score. one point the child was given resuscitation care, the child was taken in

the mouth, the childbirth went without complications, the spring birth was 4.200 g. signs of premature aging of the placenta. what indicates an intrauterine infectious lesion of the fetus, a congenital intrauterine viral infection was detected. at this stage, the possibility of examination during pregnancy does not allow to identify the entire range of infectious agents of the mother, that is , it is almost impossible to establish a viral infection of the fetus during pregnancy. it's not true, it's not true. look at the fact that he himself took birth, and then he writes on the abgar scale, and he left to wash his hands. well it's like you understand that absolutely can't match in reality, if a child is heavy from him, no one will ever leave his mother , including, because she was unconscious from your words. yes, natasha if we talk about the fact that i looked at your examination of pregnancy. yes, or rather a map for pregnancy, there is very much. i have a lot of questions. so she has a burdened obstetric gynecological history. this

suggests that she should have been on a special account, which was not, that is , they should have paid attention to her, but this is absolutely so. risk group. this is the first secondly, no one carried out prophylaxis. she was the main no one carried out prevention in utero, fetal hypoxia, never once no one wrote in the card. what medications does she take for the disease? none of the others, she has a thyroid problem. well, let's say now we all have problems with the thyroid gland, but during pregnancy this should be special . detachment. she was in the hospital. then they they don’t find anything, they don’t treat prophylaxis, they don’t make a single prescription, there’s no right one. you understand everything, so there are a

lot of questions here, and i'm sorry, i'll just interrupt. eh, we have some, but what does the reviews say? yes, right now there are a lot of calls and messages from all over the stavropol territory. you will be surprised, but most of these calls and messages are positive. here is an example of what she told us. irina, i entered on april 17th. i became ill at the appointment with my attending physician she got me right away. as a rule, for hospitalization on the same day, i had a caesarean section with the help of doctors, my daughter weighing 3.700 was born , a very pleasant environment, and the staff is generally a fairy tale and such reviews start for a day, well , all the women who gave birth in the stavropol territory and will now call and say what thanks, huh? and here, i'm not a doctor, it's very difficult for me. thank you irina what are you telling me step by step. i know only as a psychologist i will say that when this happens, it is grief, then, of course, as a minimum, it should

there was a certain attention to the mother. and at least there had to be some kind of adaptation and they had to give attention, respect her grief, and at least explain in detail and position yourself so that she would not scratch out this knowledge. and then what does he do? here is this young man. this is also important to say to everyone, please, when you choose doctors, it’s better not to have close friends. because this story is about this young doctor guy who really wanted to be an expert. you know, i don't think he delivered the baby. i think he's not just gone now. he speaks, shows about some of his conclusions. she reasons these phrases of his, when he wants to be an expert, he re- traumatizes or traumatizes this family. well, by the way , our correspondents tried to find rodion mikhailovich a for several days at the railway group worked in stavropol

, and this is what attention turned out of this. presumably radeon filippov lived in this house, because a month after the death of little david. he appointed natalya miller a meeting in the yard after short conversation. the doctor stopped talking. and as if evaporated in this place. on this bench. i sat and waited, he came up to me, and we started asking questions. well, that's why he read this protocol, when he read it, he said that here the protocol was written for a fool. that is, if you have already decided to fool, then they did it beautifully, as if, well, in this area he walked with his family , that wife and daughter. they have been walking since september with me in touch. he didn't even come out with me, never called, and didn't even tried to talk to him, they stopped even meeting him on the streets, they stopped even somehow

fleetingly seeing him somewhere. since the doctor rodion filippov, once a close friend of the miller family, has stopped all communication with natalia and joseph does not enter into correspondence, they do not answer calls. we decided to look for obstetricians ourselves and arrived at the address where he was registered. we look forward to meeting him personally. we are looking for rodion, we have a few questions about the pregnancy of one woman, that she works for semashko, but he was registered here. why you his relative or as usual, do not communicate like that. filippova brought us to the oktyabrsky district of stavropol, they say they had seen a doctor in this house before. lived or

university, and he is very decent and, as a doctor, very decent. i know a lot of reviews about women who have been. human values ​​and father was a doctor and mother doctor father died. his mother raised him alone ; he worked at the factory and worked part-time as a boy. a very good boy, not spoiled. and well i don't think if it's something, what's he in there? well, kind of guilty. now let's try contact rodion philip by phone. let's see what the reaction of allo rodion will be. good evening. my name is kirill tv channel, russia tell me please, we would like to meet with you somehow

to talk about the miller family why just understand what happened eh? he does not intend to communicate with the press, perhaps he has something to hide alexander efremov suddenly rodion do you think why he is silent? here we are all trying to understand, it seems to me that such a situation is developing, that it is easy for a person. well, sorry pushed a little in that in terms of what it’s not like he’s a bad person, in fact, i know him, here then joseph knows this here, as if, of course, a person has a person, like a family, he also worries. at the beginning, he already entered into correspondence, as if they were showing, yes, and then , for sure, either his lawyer, or him the same researchers. they said, you are a guy, be more careful in your statements and opinions, because, of course, he is the main one, but now it is important to do the following, it is important to find

the truth. here, if there is, a causal relationship between the wrong non-professionals. so that you are the death of a child, then yes, then there is a crime, but if i apologize again , there were some diseases really long during pregnancy, either there were intrauterine hereditary or later, they developed and there was no connection between death and uh and 10 doctors, then then it will be, uh, an acquittal process. why is everyone silent? because there was a high-profile story in stavropol in the year 21, ah , which also went viral, yes, uh, which began with a video at a cemetery in dagestan yes on it, a man showed plastic dolls wrapped in the savannah, recall. that's what i saw. here are the dolls. there are natural dolls here,

which means that my children are alive, yes, it turns out that this is sand, this, which water is going to be so many witnesses. for those who don't understand. this is the same perinatal center in stavropol. yes, when a man is given dolls instead of dead children, then in 2021, in the wake of this scandal with dolls, the head doctor of the perinatal center, natalya vyacheslavovna zubenko, was more talkative. and that's what we told about the electronic database everyone admitted to the hospital. we found that such a patient had not been treated during the last year, such a birth was not this first. secondly, our children did not

die during this period of time. in my opinion. it's a planned action and it 's proven as a result of the investigations that are currently underway, but it's surprising that a young, educated man who, uh, lives in a society that uses social media gadgets. he just can't help noticing the absence. or having a pregnancy spouses, so now we are waiting for another small advertisement right after it of the boy’s grandmother, and they also tell me that they found the center bursting with calls, what our viewers are ready to tell about this perinatal center does not switch. at night , an attempt was made on the prime minister on the russia mamul channel. he is just on a business trip,

everything is fine with him. i do not know why. i don't believe. tell your mom that i'm alive and not going through a smart person, so everything's fine, you know, well, at least someone knows something, who they are zemstvo go 8 years later today at 21:20 to channel russia legendary show continues it hit so well. me hands strong people at

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today 17:30 on the channel russia is needed. i'll just be by your side. there is no need to decide now. just don't send me away, please, on saturday and sunday. wow, a woman wearing a ferrywoman dream valley once again hello a high-profile case in stavropol , the family of natalia joseph miller has not been able to get the truth for a year now. what happened, in fact, with their newborn son, the child died on the third day after birth, however , the inconsolable parents did not calm down and insisted for the exhumation. and here began the most terrible body of the child was

removed without a single internal organ. expertise. the dna of the nine vata formulations did not inspire confidence in the parents, and they at first assumed that the son was simply replaced by him. however, the absence of internal organs led them to the even more horrific assumption that the organs were removed for illegal transplantation, the investigative committee. leads the business lowers the first, and the deputy chairman of the state duma committee on the family of women and children. don't you think everything about this story is weird. that's probably even i would start here, with what that in no case should anyone ever give birth by agreement with a doctor. it's just that these words by agreement means that the doctor who is present to the peoples, and he is happy , wait no, they are their own doctor. we must talk. i say, why can't you, so that now you think that the doctor is under contract? i

really want you to hear me that when you give birth not under a contract with a doctor, but by agreement, all agreements, that start with words. we will thank you in no case should there be opponents. a man wants to give birth to a woman, she comes and gives birth. it is paid, to give birth to someone free of charge gives birth. the doctor should be a professional woman who gives birth free of charge should normally be there normally. can i agree and, of course, the work of psychologists and the work of doctors with you should definitely talk and lie. if you didn’t understand, didn’t hear this, sometimes the head doctor in every maternity hospital must have a psychologist with you

talked to me like that. rodion was the only one who came to find out how i was, well, that’s all, and it’s also very important to correctly tell the diagnosis to you, they didn’t even tell us anything at all. that is, here, in fact, there are a lot of questions and andrey is saying, perhaps i will turn to you with the result, we need to show the results, because when we discuss such issues, we must find out that truth that will open the court not only the parents of natalya joseph e, i live in a state of stress, but their mothers are also very worried. er, that's what they told us. well, of course, i was delighted when she said that i was pregnant, mom, how to save or not? i say save of course. and this is our grain, which we have been waiting for a long time, and then she said, our mother has a boy. we

were very much looking forward to the birth of our second child. we put in a crib. here we had this chest of drawers standing there for a little one for davyd . things were all thought about him. i call him a hero , after all, our experience. she said, yes, she went to mom, he opened his eyes, his daughter, thank god, he will look at you. he is the one you hi to him. yes, she said to pass us. let him hold on. let him be strong , they were going to go to the clinic for cards by eight o'clock and i receive sms that the child has died. was to believe it. the first thing that came to me,

that is, well, the child was missed, everything was fine and in the end. we didn’t see what he was like at birth, as natasha said, it was impossible to photograph, there was nothing to compare with, how he was there, as if in a robic of the soul, that after all they buried my child for me. health went down on against the backdrop of experiences, they told me that i had a heart attack on my legs. i beg you. forgive the child, if he is alive. and if he died,

then tell me, well, why, why do we have him? tatyana nikolaevna miller is preparing for the operation, she could not come today, she is in touch with us with tatyana nikolaevna and what seems most strange to you in this case is strange. it seems to me that she is without a place of residence without a residence permit, that is, in general, well, a homeless person, like a lonely and dysfunctional mother. yes, and it's not clear at all. where did she come from? and it's true that during the exhumation they did not want to give you a tag during the emotion. they didn't give us anything at all. they were only allowed to take pictures. i shot from a distance too.

well, you also believe that perhaps your child lives somewhere, grows up and is brought up, we have all the assumptions, because according to all these papers, according to all the protocols that we have, that is, we are kind of inclined to this, that we may well have buried not another patient of the stavropol perinatal center, but today in our studio. what do you think about the stories we're discussing today? in general, i am very shocked with this situation, i myself almost found myself in such a situation, but i was sent to another perinatal center. and i ran away. i hmm was not a wealthy seam. this has been overlooked. i was told that everything is wonderful that i can give birth. go home yourself. wait, wait for contractions, but i lasted until such a moment that i started

bleeding, and i urgently went to the fourth maternity hospital on my own. yes, on your own. i was afraid that they would guide me to perinatal. i'm so afraid of him. why have you heard so much? yes, i found out, i was lying there before that, and they laid me down with bleeding. mm. i was at 7 i was 7 weeks old. i have not yet stood at the site, and it turned out that they did not even check me. i don’t know, maybe it’s due to the fact that there is no registration, because the girl was admitted a day later. after me with bleeding for 7 weeks , she had an ultrasound scan and they did everything, they did nothing for me, the main thing is the lawyer of the society for the protection of patients' rights. e, doctor. e you and the mediator. what this is the function this is the function of reconciliation. ah, but in this case, in this tragic story, i sympathize with the guys. and here we are not talking about mediation, because we perfectly saw everything as it happened. all in

a medical facility. they were closed. they didn't answer questions. they are not pre. they regularly violated the rights of the parents as the legal representatives of this baby, so now we are not talking about mediation, because they all missed their mediation period, and here i am, as a doctor and a lawyer a huge number of questions, first to the doctors. and we must. well, in the sense within the framework of this criminal case, but to ask for a antenatal clinic, if it is said that there were defects at the diagnostic stage in the antenatal clinic, these are defects for which doctors should be held accountable. you can remotely take control. uh, this story, how to help take control? what is lena saying to us, call center? well, as i said, there are a lot of calls, they continue to come in and almost all

positive people call to tell their stories, thanks to the doctor's staff. for example, what christina told us was being treated in the gynecological department for an operation. i want to express my deep gratitude to all the medical staff for their professionalism for their attitude towards patients. many thanks to marina kharitonovna for her sensitive attitude towards me for attention and understanding, but despite another positive review to the investigative committee. a is investigating and let's listen to the comments attention of the investigating authorities the investigative committee of russia for the stavropol territory is investigating a criminal case on the fact of causing death by negligence to an infant, according to the protocol of the pathologist of the anatomical autopsy. the cause of the infant's death was an intrauterine infection during the preliminary investigation, a molecule was carried out. a poetic examination, according to which miller is the biological mother of the boy, is currently assigned to the

forensic expert center of the investigative committee of russia based on the results of a complex of investigative actions in a criminal case , a legitimate and reasoned decision will be made. i would very much like to after today's program. uh, natasha heard and invited her to talk. oh, and sides. at least we tried to hear each other. we are monitoring the development of the situation. and as i said, by the way , the quiz. we'll keep you up to date with the court ruling for today. all. take care