and shukhevych was a personal tragedy for him. today, after the big news of the new detective series, spasskaya 2, the head of the new head of the investigative department entrusts anna with a new case - someone damaged the parachute of a famous athlete. who had such a motive that what actually happened was a tragic accident or a murder out of jealousy, you will find out today from the new episodes, and do not start at 21:20 on the tv channel, russia vesti follows the development of major events in russia abroad. good afternoon everyone, they

have declassified the elusive couple of our illegal intelligence agents in 2020 alone, for more than 20 years, they have been working in latin american countries obtaining important secret information. tamara is not a pumpkin. she is anna maria and her husband vitaly, whose name is still classified as secret. even now, supplemented by no one knows who exactly tamara vitaly worked abroad. it is known that our scouts were engaged in choreography for many years and pretended to be a student of a world-famous cuban ballerina, who at one of the events confused tamara with her student, introducing her to the general public, thereby strengthening the legend of the scout vitaly himself, as they say, could take the post of president of one of the countries in latin america. but which one is kept secret by the children of illegal immigrants, son, daughter. until recently , they didn’t know that they were russians, and theirs or real scouts today you will see a unique

the story of our film crew ended up in the press bureau of the foreign intelligence service, where they train intelligence officers and today we have an exclusive interview. illegal scouts tamara nitex about love secret missions presidents specifically for our program. hello these are the legendary wonderful people. the life of wonderful people is called hello, we will immediately get to you, because you tell me too. you say i don't like it. yes thanks a lot. if you are given a special jacket like this, which we give only to the most important guests, it will warm you up. oh, that's it, i don't know what mansion, in general. i'm here first. here you are

for the first time, therefore, they asked me to guide you. look, here we are in our center, of course, it’s calm and beautiful and here. what makes it especially famous is intelligence is born here, because they bring guys here when they don’t know anything yet, when they want to make an offer to them, then they will agree to disagree there, then they will learn to prepare. well, in general, this is where it all begins. then let's go. here here is a small one, just to bring you up to speed small. this is the kind of museum you have. oh listen. you know, firstly, this is our abel, he was a wonderful artist, an amazing artist. there are many many in my office hung for years, a portrait of lenin. well, some there greeted and greeted. well, somehow

no one else had the highest part of the day coming to me. oh, what an interesting portrait of lenin you have, and i say, it’s all in abundance, and everything is beautiful. well , you know who this is, quickly ice, a man whom i naturally didn’t know, he died earlier , an incident that i respect endlessly. this is a direct example of a real illegal immigrant who spent 17 years in prison. well, there was never a word. this is an absolutely amazing intelligence officer , modest and smart. well, what it should be, but just to me 5 days ago we installed a board for ours. the ceremony was amazing for director trubnikov, because he was an outstanding person, but this is lyoshenka, my great friend. he is terribly missed. here is a person, here is the real thing, you understand, here is the real lyosha, not work yura, who was incredibly

modest, you know, people who live in a different place, they have a different way of thinking, a different idea, and people whom it is impossible not to respect. and in general, to some extent, even idolize, because this is how he went through these, when he was once taken out to execution, how he went through all these. of course, the biggest tragedy for me is that my husband left 12 years ago; he was an amazing , unique person. well, no one knew about the super surprise, because it could not be deciphered. i read somewhere that he was even offered to become president of one side. well, in general, i want to tell you that if only there was still a talik nearby, when in general there is no one happier than me in the world. well, honestly, you understand, this is all very much now. from there, here with you, as he says, says everything, but the main question is, while we are here in this building and you said, yes, you

said that guys come here, and i have a story, which means i’m probably 13 13 or 14 years old, 1900 some kind of this already yes, i went to nizhny novgorod this is what i liked most, but in our history, but at the same time i was given a hard time. no. i mean, i think. well, okay, you'll hear about me later. i'm so offended. the first time i saw it, putin arrived, then the goat who had just laid down was awarded a hero, and then, so we have a banquet there talk. and he says, well, guys, what should i do? i didn’t turn out to be a scout. i had to give it to the president. this is intelligence. if there is something here, you understand.

this is some kind of untruth or something else. it must be terrible here all the time, that’s why my husband was like that and our profession was, it’s a little bit different for us, because there are a lot of qualities combined here, both an officer and you should be. moreover, an officer, as i say, is the first level, which means the most responsible, because this is a huge responsibility to your country. here you are doing something. you are writing information. what if something goes wrong? you can't be wrong here. like a surgeon with a surgeon. it’s also such a profession, well, he’s a surgeon, but here we have everything and so on. so i wanted to ask which film is the most truthful for you. no , i’m officers about another phrase there, you understand the phrases for us now, especially for young people. i think a lot, which means that there is such a profession there, to defend the motherland, you know? this is a miracle. there is such a profession, ivan

, to defend his homeland, it’s like that great phrase. and so i’m telling you, that’s why i’m telling the guys, you’re proud, you came here. i bow to you, you are great, because choosing such a profession is not so easy, but the first and in the first place , his spouses were recruited. well, as he understands, it’s somehow even difficult to say. i really understand, we were different then and didn’t ask questions. we had one friend who was a secret before talik. he is older than us and that means he went to us. he was illegal there. well, it didn’t always work out for everyone. he was legal, and a very strong intelligence officer. then, and we came here at sixty-two. well, somewhere, probably, at that time they should have made an offer to him, because already then we had a year of ours, he had already gone on

a business trip there. well, educational and so on. no, i'm just, sorry for interrupting. it's just that i'm wondering, here, too, as if for a film, i lived in a story, yes, you tell me, and i have all such a movie movie, uh, and that's how he doesn't know it in the evening by candlelight, he kisses you and says, will you also with me to unwrap or there were no candles there in prishvich when he said, i love you, but i love god more. here's an example : i don't think it's the only thing. well, in general, then at that moment it is possible that he i love you very much, but my decision does not change. he tells me that i have already accepted it. there is a solution. i will pass the commission, because he had a little vision. sometimes he looked further like this. well, then it became 100%, so, if that means, hmm, i’ll go into illegal intelligence. precisely not into intelligence, but into illegal intelligence. and you must decide

will you be with me, because just before the wedding, the parents will come or not, that's it. do you know by that time these films? well, the film, of course, is a feat of a scout. and a warrior alone in the field are wonderful films. but when he told me this, i was a terrible romantic, of course for me it's straight. so he rose in my eyes, he rose, let’s say, i don’t know how much. i told him, of course, yes. all later. they made him an offer, then i somehow sat at lectures. they tell me that tamara, the vice-rector, is waiting for the holy one right away i realized that the vice-rector was waiting for him there. so they made me an offer. we immediately agreed and waited until i graduated from college. i defended myself in february and already in

march. we were already at work and started preparing, and he was cooking. you have some kind of spanish in the famous fact that, well, i won’t explain some things, but i wanted to change teachers and our curator comes, he says wonderful guys. so, you will now be dating a real spanish woman tomorrow? tomorrow, so she will be your coach, well, he's tongue found well, so we especially there the teacher already needed more practice than say there rules and so on. sorry, but you could have chosen the language or not. they told you to study spanish after all. you just know where there are a lot of people who needed more documents there. no, you don't choose. naturally, then your appearance, but i was always there, which means that they took me for this or a tape, but i had all this

was my legend. there were italians and spaniards, i really liked it. and this is very good i felt it, but it’s not here. suddenly they say you will have a coach, a spaniard, the real one didn’t know anything about her yet, but i know my husband all night, calmly went to bed. of course i can't sleep. i mean, you've been thinking for a long time. what am i going to wear? what phrases are i supposed to not cook at all if i’m getting ready? i'm talking such nonsense. well, in general, we are going to arrive when a woman comes out and is already an adult. she was already over 60 in dark blue skirts in a dark blue sweater, so very simple. he comes out and speaks. full sentence: he says it smells good. i don't understand, i'm waiting she speaks spanish in russian. well, it smells good in russian. i didn't understand what she wanted.

i start her there in spanish there you can eat all sorts of things there, she smells good again, and then i went down i don’t know, i was so devastated because i was expecting a spanish woman. now let's all say, well , quietly, smart, very woman, you know, she, of course, perfectly understood us. she passed on her own, the only difference was that she had a language and documents. he had his own . of course, we didn’t, but still she felt that this is how we will arrive, how she i came to russia and didn’t speak russian. and we became very good friends with her. she even when we arrived for the first time, then we first came with lenochka once, only then she was already 3 years old, and then we already went alone, and everyone lived in our apartment, this two-room apartment. so someone's in the bathroom, which doesn't matter and we brought her. she had a lot of cockroaches in her house.

we sprayed and went and bought it. it was difficult to buy then. we bought in this one, as she called birch yes, we bought this thing sprinkled, but still it was so very somehow, so to say, it was a bright, beautiful time, and we were still gaining everything, everything was in force. and so, well, when we began to study with her. hmm, i often even stayed with me for the night, and speaking about art, this is what we will tell you, this is not art. this is more than from emptiness. here we are leaving. of course, i’m telling you, it’s our farewell to our parents. our parents have arrived. we said goodbye, here is our forgiveness from mayona. and when we are already there, i say, i gave a lot of things there, but we are all packaged there, what is it like when she pulls out this soldier and says guys. this should be your motto. here is a soldier. he sometimes falls, but

he always falls while standing. you understand, he never falls, he never gives up, he falls, but standing up, you have to feel it. you are constantly especially if you have children, you must be vigilant, because there are three pillars. that's true, getting information to send information and security language there all this can be learned. but this is what it should be. the main thing is that without this it is impossible to work. nikolai nikolaevich luzan is watching the interview with us today tamara, before today’s program, of course, you knew about her and her story. well, i knew, well , not so much. eh, in this face of ivan’s container we see the first living thing. the legend is the most important thing.

well, then you know what i wanted to point out. it seems to me that here the illegal scout, probably, everything is concentrated, the most important thing that is in a woman, femininity, charm , masculinity. and what is very important for an intelligence officer. they share intelligence. counterintelligence. this is devotion next. i think this is where i saw the son you mentioned in the program that they did not know that, firstly , their parents were russian, that their homeland, after all, was not where they were born. where were their parents born? and just imagine, i can’t even imagine, they’ll probably say about it. this is how mothers and scouts mother or scouts e, sometimes raising children in a hostile country, and then convey to them that they still have a different country and return here and live with him, because as i understand it, this is not always maybe we'll talk about this, but you've heard about this the spanish woman she talked about, who was her teacher. uh, the famous spaniard africa de lasserosa sergey

brilev shot a documentary about her for several years . let's look at a fragment, the more interesting the image from this teacher will become, which influenced tamara, her real name is africa and the operational pseudonym was patreon, that is, everyone's homeland is in the very latin american country where the wife of the soviet intelligence officer from those times from the boar of the door is obviously to if there was a counterintelligence police raid or worse, the cia could have time to destroy the codes and so on. hot meat uruguayans do not have a more favorite pastime, but it seems to be home to your meat, i didn’t invite anyone, because its brazier was intended for another for radio broadcasts. the simplest form. this is a traditional oven for us. this is my paradise. my paradise they say that she was unfolding the antenna, lifting it through the chimney. and here she had

transmitters. so she didn't use the fryer. here is the grave of the boy, and she was looking for those who died 30-40 years before to provide these real names intelligence officers who arrived from the ussr on the graveyards of uruguay, patria, having found the data she needed, went to the cemetery offices. there she reported that she wanted to know more about the deceased baby and his family, since she herself , an inconsolable mother who lost a child of three , continued to look for an identity and another way. she went to psychiatric hospitals, more precisely, to organizations that cared for the mentally ill and sometimes took these patients for walks, but in fact she led them to get an identity card, that is, everything looked like you bring to

the department where such documents of a real uruguayan were issued, the first thing the official who received visitors checked was. did they change the place of registration or did they tell him his marital status that no, then you went to another place to take fingerprints; we called this procedure a small piano. posts, you paid the fees at the box office and there they gave you a number in line with the photographer. but the photographer had no idea who was handing over the documents at this stage and there was a substitution, he came in to take pictures a soviet intelligence officer in return, a real uruguayan. whose details have already been entered in the application form for obtaining an identity card and in the registration form. the main question right after the advertisement is how tamara

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've had physics for a long time. i realized that this is impossible. i found the closest profession : director of the fate of a man with boris korchevnik at 15:00 on the channel, russia . of course, the main question that worried me was how she behaved during childbirth. let's continue watching her interview. can i ask a question, uh, if we today we have already remembered 17 moments of spring, just in 1972 the film was released. eh, and the main

scene is when she is afraid of failing. she says mom should scream in russian, but you weren’t afraid of rising prices. no, first of all, this is, of course, a film. well, maybe someone shouted. you understand, i had a blast. lenochka had a caesarean section because, well, i understand why when we were already traveling to the country on four planes, it’s not so easy for a child. well, the only thing i’ve already had a big deal with is that means i’ll hide when i’m married. and my face was perfect, there was nothing there no stains, nothing, and we board the plane. and then, when i get up and the flight attendants see me, because you know, this is all the companies in the world, because it’s a child being born on an airplane. he flies for free all his life, and then it’s not the main thing, after all, for the airline company. there you will think, it will lie there for free. oh, i would definitely have a caesarean section, so i would have to land the plane. and this is already millions. well, in general, i want to say, no one noticed, and i

asked the doctor in the last country we were in to write to me that i have 7 months. i already had eight. we arrived uh, in december, on december 9, from january 25, lena was already born and therefore, of course, it was already quite dangerous, but it doesn’t matter, the fact is that , uh, i go to the doctor, and they tell me a caesarean section. well, we got scared and went and bought a book. it says there that this was a caesarean in the 16th century. i cleaned 90% there. there are almost no deaths now. of course, we were afraid that the next day we would go to another doctor in the same clinic. he would listen, yes, what are you afraid of? you should be happy, it’s already you just won't suffer. you will come on such and such a day. well, in general, i was the only one who didn’t allow anything to be done to me to make me fall asleep. they did everything for me, well, they did local local work, and that’s why the talik stood outside the door, because he should have been present,

but since it was an operation, he was not allowed, and he stood behind the door. it was harder for zhenya, because he was very strong and it all started with me. well, nothing was born either. i'll tell you honestly. i wasn't afraid. everything went great for me. but you remember, uh, you remember, you remember, uh, that one the moment when you land then it 's that sheremet, it doesn't know, domodedovo it doesn't matter where, but yes. here is the return because, it seems to me, this is how it should be emotionally. that's all, the memory turned out to be very interesting. mm. i first arrived with my children and my husband after 17 days, because there were some things there and we didn’t dare to go together. he saw us off, of course, poor thing. and now sometimes i look in the recording . i don’t see his eyes, they are far away. he can imagine what state he was in when he saw us off. so we arrived, and the remote control was quite long and, in general, there were two children. they didn’t

know yet, although they were already lazy. i told you something lenka this is my daughter. she has always been a chechen patriot. she, then, is the same, and when her father went to pick her up to tell her that we were leaving. she knows that three letters will save him, and three letters were e b holy letters, but she never thought. naturally, we are soviet there, russian intelligence agents, she thought that we were agents to help. she was very proud of it, but when she found out that she was here. well, this, of course, you couldn’t do anything differently, somehow even we fell a little into it because being an agent is dangerous there. this is the job of helping. you know, especially lenochka was little, she started talking when she was one and a half years old, she was already saying everything, and when you come, she starts. my mother was born there home. dad was born. that's how they met. true, tell me your biography and well, she finished her studies very well. that means bachiratu

international and so she worked at first. there in some supermarket on the computer listen, what benefit does this have to you, it ’s no good, and then he invites her to the radio , there was a radio there, but she wasn’t paid anything for the night. here's the radio for you all night, but we give you tickets there, there's a theater, well, the tenth one was a small casino, and there was everything there and concert halls there, well, the casino is so clean and then she said. so i want to, so we came here to do journalism, she entered journalism and friendship of peoples, and she goes to work. he worked there for three years , interviewing all the spanish-speaking presidents. well you know, firstly, there is no russian, then they wanted me, she thought that she was helping her father so much. in general, here is such a story with lenochka, and zhenechka is different from him,

his whole life he dreamed of being a pilot all his life since childhood. and so he achieved it, and passed the exams. he still didn't know russian very well, well, ours, of course, would have helped, but he passed his exams better. so he got an amazing 12 points in russian. lena doesn’t have such a feeling; she has an amazing sense of literacy. i have never seen, never found. he hasn’t made a single mistake in russian, he says great, but he is very pedal for me it is a great joy pride because they are very hard and many things. i don't see who i like, naturally. that's it, and that's it. it is also a homeland for them - i don’t want to clean it up. they were born there, what kind of people they are, if he doesn’t respect, it’s not respected, then where were you born this country, because dad is here, mom is there relatives there, everything, of course, was very difficult for them. they arrived and found out that they had only one grandmother, my mother was alive, my father had died. and so

talika's mother died. we should not have been able to come to the funeral, but my mother was alive and for them i will say, they had a grandmother. they even. well it. well, my daughter told me, my mother. thank you very much. i am very grateful to you for the fact that you have never deceived us that what to live according to the legend - this is our job alone. well, lying is terrible. in our work, this is absolutely. this is on the first point, the first point is that the illegal outlet does not deceive. june 28 is the day of our illegal intelligence in 2007 in the morning, my husband. eh, they are going to zhenechka the next year and the commissions give out that he passed the commission. and so they go to the subway. my husband was incredibly modest, he had

a car . well said then. he dresses quickly. so he was thinking about this day. putin met in the evening. e with time. this is the italian president. thought something would happen some questions. he prepared everything. he was incredible. punctual prepared everything in general. so they're taking him. yes, no one knew anything, many knew georg told me, and i knew, i didn’t know anything that i couldn’t. i didn’t know, they look at me somehow strange . well, in general, a talik arrives, putin meets him there, he says so, so i prepared to ask someone questions, then he is handed a star to the hero, but he was already a general. we couldn't even think of one. well, that means we had a banquet, because it was our anniversary and that means

comes up to me at the banquet. lebedev is our director , tamara, i congratulate you. i wasn’t even there for your husband, because, well, it was impossible. well, then they bring my husband home. the son opens the door and sees a star and says, well, dad, now you will go to the pharmacy without a queue. well, in our studio today, tamara's daughter is not a taxi, lena let's talk with her, how did she find out that her parents were scouts. what does she remember about the first minutes in her homeland and did she ever want to go? are we following in the footsteps of our parents? usually you take interview. and today things are a little strange for you.

well, you remember, this is the homecoming airport when you were brought. everything else, well , first of all, the impression. well, there is still some impression, but, firstly, we did not go through the usual path, that is, through repeated control. well, because we didn’t have a passport at all. actually russian, yes, and secondly, this is the impression that suddenly your mother speaks some kind. that is, and it seems like it's your own mother and and, because some men meet her. and i take my brother and i start walking faster because i don’t want to see what’s happening there. yes? that is, it’s, well, kind of strange, and the most interesting thing was that he somehow didn’t notice that my mother spoke a different language, that is, she gave me some hints.

now, when we were already approaching russia, well, there were some moments, oh, that i thought, yes, that is, when we were leaving, yes, and i somehow began to think, what if they are agents, there and so further. yes, that is, dad didn’t answer me when i asked this question. thought about the fact that the parents are russian and study this movie. yes, i am russian myself, yes, and when does this come to you? this is, of course, a hat. let's listen to what else you said about our correspondent before the program. i was 18 years old when i came here to russia. when we arrived. this is the second day that grandmother arrived. she was in such an emotional state. i mean, there are tears in my eyes. she said, so i waited, but you have never seen. no, it was not. that is, i

see a person who looks like my mother. and i see her emotional state. yes to me too i want to answer her. at the same time, this person i see is the first time. well, i was 18 years old then and i really missed it. there's just no way. that is, i always wanted me to have nothing more, that is , the story of my parents - this is a story of enormous love for the motherland, endless, because everything they did, they did. from a position of love, my mother loves three. well, every cell. now, i don't know how to say it. and here she is suffering so much. where is what is happening now, yes, he is worried, but you have worked on it. mother she said several years ago on rush and interviewed hugo chavez, fidel’s niece, and

it seems to me that this was probably one of the most exciting interviews for you. it was with alice, alonso, because i don’t know, your mom already told you before, right? as for that, she told everyone that alisi alons was her teacher. yes, and suddenly one day there was a chance meeting and it was fortunate that alisa alonians were already so bad. vidit says. yes, yes, i remember a very good girl. when you interviewed her, you held it here. this, of course, is in the head and also, as it were, and there on the computer this is the feeling that our stories intersect and go a little through some of the places they told me about. that's what it was for me. that is, but it is true that when you came to russia and leaving the west you had there. uh, the boy who was in love with you was waiting for you and you were uh, torn between love. and what did you say, uh, you’re leaving your life behind, well, everything that’s yours, all your

childhood, all your friends. hello, uh, it’s definitely difficult. and what did he tell you? dad , when did you tell him that you had love there? are you here? well, it's true that when i i came here, and they told me everything and they told me, you have the right to choose. i was very worried. what will happen to my education, because i don’t know the language and they told me, if you want to leave, it’s your choice. we don't want to condition you. but these are my laughter. this is my homeland. well , let’s listen to what your mother also said about how a woman is generally selected for intelligence, and our editor-in-chief ksenia azotina hung out with her at her house. secret, how is the selection of female intelligence officers going? what qualities should women have here in men?

one and the same great motivation love for the motherland to be inquisitive to be interested in everything there, first of all, of course, politics, economics, to be interested in the social system , to know, in general, to read a lot, to love art, music, because the more a person knows, the closer he is to intelligence , because the intelligence officer must not just get information before receiving information. he must get close to people from whom he can get information and for this, of course. he must have a very wide range. a woman must be very communicative, because all the worries will fall on her. let's say around the house. just a woman, she feels more, she feels everything with her back, a man is not like that. sensitive like a woman and natural connection because when receiving telegrams there is a package. if this means hiding places, look for them to carry out a hiding operation

, the ability to use any equipment there. this is all, of course, a woman must be able to do it all perfectly. how many languages ​​should a scout or scout know? well, the more the merrier, but, well, you need to it is necessary to know your language of your country , you need to know, if you are on the other side, the language of that side is necessary to know english, you need to know there, if possible, there are some things there that are french . that’s also not bad. now the russians, when i returned, were replacing english with spanish, so they still continued to speak. it cannot be replaced. well, it's english. of course, i read there, if necessary, i learned how to go on a business trip and i’m already talking. well, i guess that when a spouse can sometimes quarrel with russia in spanish, but we they never argued with him. that's the whole problem with him and me. we didn’t quarrel once, just once, that’s the same thing, we’re driving in a car, and i ’m storming him, and that means he’s telling me, i

’m telling him, now i’m turning. he's where i say there. well, out of trouble, he said, who is this woman, you have such a story of love, i was so amazed, what did you say when you were informed that your husband had died? why did you think until recently that he had left on some mission , i still think so. i hope this is already here, of course. i think i waited a lot, when we were 50 it would be years. i’ll be honest, i was so hoping that i would receive some kind of text message, but there was no text message. that, of course, is very, very sad, because we are used to it. we were in the same breath. we were breathing. together with just my lungs and suddenly half of me was cut off, of course, it was terrible. because such a professional friend, comrades

of my children's father's husband. this is just unreal. sergei sergeevich yakovlev, my retired general and veteran of the foreign intelligence service, is also watching with us today. this is an interview. good evening. a if it’s not a secret, why tamara vitaly was returned to russia was some serious issue, but i think that a premonition was possible, and in this regard they were lucky, because worse could have happened. well , sometimes the time comes up to 20 years - this is a very long period. and we had to think about our future fate. and lena and zhenya too, that he had to realize his dream of becoming a pilot. well, you said a petition about his dream. zhenya is also here in our studio today. let's invite eugene not so son, uh, meet tamara. you're like your sister

are you talking? what language is it in russian? but you became a pilot, you remember, your first flight is still a dream come true - this is very important. it doesn't matter where you are. here's your first flight. then you are already a pilot when you are a dad, then you came, i studied in ulyanovsk, he came, he stood there at the fence , watched as i circled us around the airfield in cool circles. i didn’t cry just because i was afraid my colleagues would think something was wrong , yes. well, it was very emotional. well, then, respectively, when the commander became the first time dad was gone. here. eh, well , these are such moments that they, how to say, determine a certain line throughout life. well, you never wanted to be a scout. here, after learning that you have parents no honestly. no. well, firstly, i found out that they are scouts much. much later than i decided that i wanted to be

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good afternoon again. there is such a profession as defending the motherland. today we are talking about scouts of illegal immigrants, a prominent representative of this profession is the legendary couple tamara and vitaly not tyksa, who worked for more than 20 years in latin america , the most senior famous people in the world opened the doors to them , not a single spy in the nineties could declassify ours tamara vitaly was called while they continued their work abroad, their couple was partially declassified only in 2020. and the children of illegal intelligence officers they only found out that they were russian when they returned to their homeland. but, do you remember that life, with some flashbacks abroad? or were you too young? uh, i was 13 years old when i came here, because i have, in general, a whole life there, not like lena's , of course, there, yes, but there are certain things that still exist. i feel like i miss that life there. well, in general, yes, of course, but that’s not the most. the main thing

, of course, that is, in general, the mentality of people is different, yes, and when you grow up, there in this or that society, that is, it is very strong, how would you you absorb it, and then when we arrived here, especially since we arrived in the late nineties, that is, in general, not the most favorable time for such psychological stress. let's say. yes, well, of course, of course, there was a whole life there. it was as if life was before here it stopped and now it became after, but this life is always it, as it were. always on to farm. let's listen to your mother's attention. you, we won’t communicate, of course, by name it goes without saying . you communicated with many politicians and even presidents. nobody knew that you russian, everyone was sure that she was american, and from the outside, this is how you feel about russia, for sure, it seems, it was somehow discussed, yes, it was anyway, of course you know, i remember once. it was terrible, although there were very good people, they

helped us a lot. these were people from the very top echelon. and when the explosion happened in chernobyl, i remember she came to us, so this couple was sitting and she said. oh, why is the smoke coming to europe? why not to them and and you should have sat and smiled, you understand? it was very hard. and somehow i even have a relationship with them. although they were very good people. we fight, we still win, and then it’s impossible. that's what we sometimes say, why did we go there? why is this a military operation where a professional is working, we don’t interfere there, but as always in everything. you cannot look at the result simply by the result, because you need to see the vectors to add everything. here vector there are vectors that go up there are right left down and you take the result. and so, when you serve all victor and you will see that we are going somewhere

we're ahead. this is the most important thing, no matter what. i would really like to go there, but it won’t let me. sergei nikolaevich, that is, tamara, she’s eager, i can see it, well , i think she’ll be a useful person there. women like tamara ivanovna should be given it. the title of mother-heroine, think about it completely, and these children came from the other side, and they became ours, but i have never met a more patriot of our country who raised their children this way. this is a great talent. agree. well, i think now is the time for our guests here in the studio to meet

tamarin. today her friends here are very protective of her, but she’s in our studio, uh, we’re meeting a woman legend of a true patriot. illegal scout, tamara do not poke. oh well, thank you beautiful. oh, what a beautiful photo, a miracle against the backdrop of the kremlin, oh, oh, make me one like that, of course, of course, wonderful photos. and now i understand you, i forgot to ask you, but weapons. you know how to use, of course i shot well. i don't know how long ago i shot. is that what you

got about? great. just give me something to shoot. and yura we'll all go if let us go, let's fast forward to your dacha, because i saw that our correspondents had a wonderful day. you roasted meat, drank wine, and listened to your attention stories. now we are at the dacha, here we are in such a relaxed state, the whole family here, daughter, son, grandchildren, is what we are experiencing now. that’s all, this unites us very much and brings us very close, and we try, of course, at these moments to somehow prepare

the dish that we prepared there, but we never do without them. with us, it means that we always make our salads both for the new year and for all the holidays, great, the meat is almost ready, and you’ll put it on the sausage. yes, i 'll have to bring it now. i have zhenya, of course. a very nice guy, he adored his father, and his father simply didn’t even adore him, probably more than the pilot. this is great, i can tell you for sure. so. he landed the plane. and how they applauded him, and i was proud. it was a difficult flight, not easy then. well, zhenechka dreamed of becoming a pilot since childhood. my father and i didn’t even suspect it before when we arrived. in general, we only spoke spanish, then we began. the children needed learn russian as if they were speaking now. and they speak spanish to each other all the time and on the phone, please, he says that lena says,

maybe we’ll carry it already. just wait there a little, wait. now, when he shifts everything. and they will carry you do you know what your grandmother ’s profession is? who is your grandmother? the great scout knows to ask the talik, because my grandparents did a lot of things useful for russia. it’s very nice that we have gathered. here we love. we love this place very much because our dad loved it very much. and

today we are all here together. so i see that everyone is so wonderful, lenochka, here’s my diploma. zhenya defended me and flies beautifully. these two tomboys. well, what can i say, one kulibin the second philosopher will pass, russia will definitely win this difficult time. and my children and my grandchildren will always stand guard over this. i can imagine how difficult it is now for the guys who are there at the front , we are sitting here at such a table, well, we still send our wishes with them, so that they return home, so that they to the end, well, we became winners, because these guys deserve a lot, we'll raise a lot.

today i think, after watching this program, hearing you, getting to know your amazing life. here are young people who might want to follow in your footsteps. what needs to be done, how to find you, where to write? i would like to find, of course, and i would like for them to come and find us ; it won’t be difficult. if they want, it’s true, because you can always find the main thing in our youth, of course, that the most important thing is motivation, of course, when in the world now such sentiments against our country are not everywhere, and they will certainly pass, because we have them on our side. true true, it is hard, but it still wins, sooner or later, it really is an amazing

profession, and i am very grateful to this profession, of course, i understand that it was very difficult for my children. it’s very difficult, because they were also part of our group; in our group there were not two people; in our group there were four people, because they are their own in their lives. well, not only they created a family atmosphere for us. no, they really helped a lot, and i will always be eternally grateful to them for this, but in general. i often say this, guys often, when they step in front of young people and let them be there. she’s not offended that i repeat it so many times, i always say, i envy myself. because of course, some people there had harder fates than us, luckily, our 17 moments passed more calmly, everything was calmer. but

here’s what never happened: he was never on the verge and returned home calmly to him were very proud. this declassified us. well, i had to, because a century was needed. although we were proud that no one knew us, to be honest, i want to say that the guys are really young. so you think, because it is truly amazing to serve your motherland. there is such a profession. thank you very much. thank you for this motivation for your life for your love for the motherland thank you very much. 60

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